I seem to have a problem here.

Victor F-100, 0, 00, and #3(?) tips (aircraft project stuff),
regulators, small dia hoses, and tanks in a dolly.

No, the rig works fine, but I'm moving into a rental house and noticed
in the lease a clause prohibiting storage of flammable or explosive
materials.

Small amounts of ammo (less than 2000 rounds per piece are deemed ok,
but the acetylene tanks might make the insurance company itchy, so...

So, anybody in the D/FW area who would like have this rig?

Tanks were last exchanged in 05.

I don't recall the correct size designations.
O2 is ~5' tall, Acetylene is about 3.

What would it be worth in cash or trade?

Richard

Richard: Just chain them up behind the garage and tarp them. Or keep
them on the
patio. I kept my rig on the balcony of several apratments here in the
DFW area and
never had a problem as long as they were
covered...disguised.....ahem...ahem..

Craig

wrote:

Richard: Just chain them up behind the garage and tarp them. Or keep
them on the
patio. I kept my rig on the balcony of several apratments here in the
DFW area and
never had a problem as long as they were
covered...disguised.....ahem...ahem..

Craig

That'e what I've done here for the last year.

But it's not worth the risk if someone notices.
And with a fair sized boat in the back yard,
people "notice" more...

Richard

What do you know about the landlord? It ought to be OK to just move
them in and tarp them; if the landlord says anything apologize and get
serious about finding them a new home.

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

What do you know about the landlord? It ought to be OK to just move
them in and tarp them; if the landlord says anything apologize and get
serious about finding them a new home.

He pointed out that it's an insurance issue.
The lease reads, "anything that might increase risk or rates"...

As for a "new home", I'm getting ready to go sailing for a while.
Three to six months for sure, maybe longer...?

But my lady friend isn't going - yet.
She has a daughter in high school, so it will be a while for her.

I'm trying to lighten up the storage requirements on stuff that I
really don't need to store.

Remember George Carlin's rant an;it "stuff"?

Richard

cavelamb himself writes:

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

What do you know about the landlord? It ought to be OK to just move
them in and tarp them; if the landlord says anything apologize and get
serious about finding them a new home.

He pointed out that it's an insurance issue.
The lease reads, "anything that might increase risk or rates"...

Ah, you asked? That makes it awkward. But if it says "might increase
risk or rates" I wonder if an oxy rig really would?

As for a "new home", I'm getting ready to go sailing for a while.
Three to six months for sure, maybe longer...?

But my lady friend isn't going - yet.
She has a daughter in high school, so it will be a while for her.

Sorry, I meant a new home for the oxy rig if it turned out to be
necessary.

I'm trying to lighten up the storage requirements on stuff that I
really don't need to store.

Remember George Carlin's rant an;it "stuff"?

I'm afraid that if you followed the pack rats when they made a
pilgrimage to their shrine, you'd find them kneeling in before a bunch
of little candles in front of a picture of me.... (sadly enough)

snip

He pointed out that it's an insurance issue.
The lease reads, "anything that might increase risk or rates"...

Richard, considering your affection for building and flying homebuilt
experimentals thus preclude you? VBG

George

cavelamb himself wrote:
I seem to have a problem here.

Victor F-100, 0, 00, and #3(?) tips (aircraft project stuff),
regulators, small dia hoses, and tanks in a dolly.

No, the rig works fine, but I'm moving into a rental house and noticed
in the lease a clause prohibiting storage of flammable or explosive
materials.

Small amounts of ammo (less than 2000 rounds per piece are deemed ok,
but the acetylene tanks might make the insurance company itchy, so...

So, anybody in the D/FW area who would like have this rig?

Tanks were last exchanged in 05.

I don't recall the correct size designations.
O2 is ~5' tall, Acetylene is about 3.

What would it be worth in cash or trade?

Richard



It really depends on how often you might need them in the future.
There has to be several options other than parting with them.
the insurance clause is onerous and stupid.. what about gas for a
grass mower? chainsaw etc, or fire wood and paper? Ask the landlord
about this?
.. there all other combustible materials like upholstered furniture
magazines cooking oil as well as cotton clothing plastic etc.
What about releasing the gas? fromthe tank. No gas no fire risk.
then you get to Keep the gear.
Youve a natural justice right to raise these concerns

cavelamb himself wrote:

No, the rig works fine, but I'm moving into a rental house and noticed
in the lease a clause prohibiting storage of flammable or explosive
materials.


Empty the tanks.

Wes

Wes wrote:

cavelamb himself wrote:


No, the rig works fine, but I'm moving into a rental house and noticed
in the lease a clause prohibiting storage of flammable or explosive
materials.



Empty the tanks.

Wes

And then?

I'm trying to get rid of them...

"cavelamb himself" wrote: And then?

I'm trying to get rid of them...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I just went back and re-read your original post. The lease on the new place
you have rented does not allow storage of combustibles or explosives. Empty
the acetylene tank. Oxygen is neither combustible or explosive. (You may
have to argue with some people about it.)

Leo Lichtman wrote:
"cavelamb himself" wrote: And then?
I'm trying to get rid of them...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I just went back and re-read your original post. The lease on the new place
you have rented does not allow storage of combustibles or explosives. Empty
the acetylene tank. Oxygen is neither combustible or explosive. (You may
have to argue with some people about it.)



I'm a little vague on how this will help him sell an O/A rig he no
longer needs. The guy has unneeded gear and wants money, this is not a
tough problem guys. If I was closer I'd throw you an offer. BTW
emptying an acetylene tank of Acetylene will leave you with a tank full
of acetone...which is still highly flammable.

Stuart Wheaton writes:

Leo Lichtman wrote:
"cavelamb himself" wrote: And then?
I'm trying to get rid of them...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I just went back and re-read your original post. The lease on the
new place you have rented does not allow storage of combustibles or
explosives. Empty the acetylene tank. Oxygen is neither
combustible or explosive. (You may have to argue with some people
about it.)

I'm a little vague on how this will help him sell an O/A rig he no
longer needs. The guy has unneeded gear and wants money, this is not
a tough problem guys. If I was closer I'd throw you an offer. BTW
emptying an acetylene tank of Acetylene will leave you with a tank
full of acetone...which is still highly flammable.

Go back and read his original post. He seemed, at that point, to only
be trying to get rid of the rig because of the terms of the lease (in
which case, solutions that involved keeping the rig seemed
preferable). It was only later that it came out he might just want to
get rid of it anyway.

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:44:18 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

cavelamb himself wrote:

No, the rig works fine, but I'm moving into a rental house and noticed
in the lease a clause prohibiting storage of flammable or explosive
materials.

Empty the tanks.

Into his landlord's car? bseg

- Metaphors Be With You -

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:44:18 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:


cavelamb himself wrote:


No, the rig works fine, but I'm moving into a rental house and noticed
in the lease a clause prohibiting storage of flammable or explosive
materials.

Empty the tanks.


Into his landlord's car? bseg

- Metaphors Be With You -



Well, that's one form of eviction...

Reporters capture photos, video of explosions at Dallas gas facility

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/25/ire...las.explosion/



Justin Randall began to wonder if he had picked the wrong day to drive
his convertible through downtown Dallas, Texas, on Wednesday, as debris
rained down from an explosion at a facility that sells acetylene gas.
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I-Reporter Ashok Visuvasam captured photos of rising fireballs from an
explosion in Dallas, Texas.
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As he drove on Interstate 35E past the explosion at Southwest Industrial
Gases Inc., he used his cell phone to shoot I-Report video of the
fireballs and smoke rising in the distance. But he realized he had to
cut his citizen journalism efforts short when he saw metal debris in the
roadway.

Some pieces were larger than car bumpers, he said. He threw his phone
onto the seat beside him and stopped filming so he could dodge obstacles
in the road, all the while hoping that nothing would fall on him. He
decided against putting the top up, figuring the debris was so large, it
would make little difference. Besides, he didn't want to obscure his
view of the road.

Falling debris also shook Ashok Visuvasam, who said he was heading to
work and happened to have a good camera with him for an assignment that
day. He captured clear and dramatic photos of fireballs at the gas
facility, but he began to think it was too dangerous to remain in the
area when he saw a cylinder fall into the water 200 to 300 yards away.
Before he left, he tried to hurry others away from the area.

The blast also detoured David Saenz of Mesquite, Texas, who was
commuting west to his job in Fort Worth when he saw smoke rising. He was
approaching the "Canyon" and the "Mixmaster," two major traffic
bottlenecks in Dallas, and decided to exit Interstate 30 while he could.

The surface streets eventually sent him circling around Reunion Arena,
where Saenz said he got a better view of the flames and smoke. Ash and
debris fell on his truck. When he was near the Dallas County Courthouse,
he had to wait for a while and saw fire trucks head up and down the
streets. The scene was chaotic for motorists, Saenz said.

"I heard a lot of booms," he said. "A lot of explosions. Constantly.
Just a lot of smoke. A lot of mass confusion. Police everywhere. Police
everywhere."



http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=6841559
http://www.ohsonline.com/articles/49362/