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Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice
I am rebuilding and tweaking a guy's old Craftsman metal lathe. I have a
machinist's background but I'm not familiar with this little lathe. - Model Number is 101.21200 Serial Number is 001773 - Name tag states Sears Roebuck USA and Simpsons-Sears Limited-Canada - Swing is 6 inches. Bed is 18" center to center approxamately. 3 jaw and 4 jaw chucks are both 4 inches in diameter. Leadscrew is 1/2" diameter x 16 pitch . Leadscrew gear is 64 tooth; stud gear is 48. I have a set of 9 other gears, but no thread gear chart so I guess I'll be figuring this out long-hand. * Largest gear in set is marked: M6-101-56 ; 56 being the tooth count. No quick change threading gear box like a South Bend 10K. Lantern post will take 3/8" wide shank tool holders. * Of course no operators' manual! - Anybody know where I could obtain a threading / feed gear chart? Operators manual would be nice, too! - There is a big gear by itself in back of the spindle, within the gearbox. This gear can be moved in and out on an indent lever also behind the spindle, moving it fore or aft. Is this to be used as a back gear arrangement to allow low gears? When I engage it, it effectively locks the spindle, but I can't figure out how to get the spindle to spin free. A South Bend lathe has a pin to pull back to freeup the back gears. What am I missing here? Or does this gear have another function? - I found a couple other Yahoo! groups specific to Craftsman / Atlas. Anybody know of other sources for info? - (Yeah, I'm using WebTV to access USENET. I have had this browser for 6 years. I have a Dell PC with Windows XP, but I prefer doing Usenet this way.) - Thanks in advance for any help. - Take care, -+- Kurt |
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Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice
Metal Man wrote:
I am rebuilding and tweaking a guy's old Craftsman metal lathe. I have a machinist's background but I'm not familiar with this little lathe. - Model Number is 101.21200 Serial Number is 001773 - Name tag states Sears Roebuck USA and Simpsons-Sears Limited-Canada - Swing is 6 inches. Bed is 18" center to center approxamately. 3 jaw and 4 jaw chucks are both 4 inches in diameter. Leadscrew is 1/2" diameter x 16 pitch . Leadscrew gear is 64 tooth; stud gear is 48. I have a set of 9 other gears, but no thread gear chart so I guess I'll be figuring this out long-hand. Largest gear in set is marked: M6-101-56 ; 56 being the tooth count. No quick change threading gear box like a South Bend 10K. Lantern post will take 3/8" wide shank tool holders. Of course no operators' manual! - Anybody know where I could obtain a threading / feed gear chart? Operators manual would be nice, too! - There is a big gear by itself in back of the spindle, within the gearbox. This gear can be moved in and out on an indent lever also behind the spindle, moving it fore or aft. Is this to be used as a back gear arrangement to allow low gears? When I engage it, it effectively locks the spindle, but I can't figure out how to get the spindle to spin free. A South Bend lathe has a pin to pull back to freeup the back gears. What am I missing here? Or does this gear have another function? - I found a couple other Yahoo! groups specific to Craftsman / Atlas. Anybody know of other sources for info? - (Yeah, I'm using WebTV to access USENET. I have had this browser for 6 years. I have a Dell PC with Windows XP, but I prefer doing Usenet this way.) - Thanks in advance for any help. - Take care, -+- Kurt A huge amount of info can be obtained through the yahoo Atlas/Craftsman lathe group he http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlas_craftsman/ HTH, Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Life is like a sewer -- what you get out of it depends on what you put into it." |
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Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice
Metal Man wrote: I am rebuilding and tweaking a guy's old Craftsman metal lathe. I have a machinist's background but I'm not familiar with this little lathe. - Model Number is 101.21200 Serial Number is 001773 - Name tag states Sears Roebuck USA and Simpsons-Sears Limited-Canada - Swing is 6 inches. Bed is 18" center to center approxamately. 3 jaw and 4 jaw chucks are both 4 inches in diameter. Leadscrew is 1/2" diameter x 16 pitch . Leadscrew gear is 64 tooth; stud gear is 48. I have a set of 9 other gears, but no thread gear chart so I guess I'll be figuring this out long-hand. Largest gear in set is marked: M6-101-56 ; 56 being the tooth count. No quick change threading gear box like a South Bend 10K. Lantern post will take 3/8" wide shank tool holders. Of course no operators' manual! - Anybody know where I could obtain a threading / feed gear chart? Operators manual would be nice, too! - There is a big gear by itself in back of the spindle, within the gearbox. This gear can be moved in and out on an indent lever also behind the spindle, moving it fore or aft. Is this to be used as a back gear arrangement to allow low gears? When I engage it, it effectively locks the spindle, but I can't figure out how to get the spindle to spin free. A South Bend lathe has a pin to pull back to freeup the back gears. What am I missing here? Or does this gear have another function? - I found a couple other Yahoo! groups specific to Craftsman / Atlas. Anybody know of other sources for info? - (Yeah, I'm using WebTV to access USENET. I have had this browser for 6 years. I have a Dell PC with Windows XP, but I prefer doing Usenet this way.) - Thanks in advance for any help. - Take care, -+- Kurt I second Jeff's recommendation on the Atlas/Craftsman group. There is also a group just for the 618 lathes. Manuals and parts are available from Clausing. When you engage the back gear, you have to disconnect the cone pulley from the bull gear. The bull gear is the large gear on the spindle. There is a pin going through it, from the right, into the pulley. The pin has a large head on it - lever it out with a screwdriver or something similar. The pin is locked by a ball and spring, held in by a setscrew from the rim of the bull gear. If the pin is locked, you may have to back off on the setscrew. John Martin |
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Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice
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Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice
According to Andy Asberry :
On Sat, 13 May 2006 19:53:08 -0400, (Metal Man) wrote: I am rebuilding and tweaking a guy's old Craftsman metal lathe. I have a machinist's background but I'm not familiar with this little lathe. - Model Number is 101.21200 Serial Number is 001773 - Name tag states Sears Roebuck USA and Simpsons-Sears Limited-Canada - Swing is 6 inches. Bed is 18" center to center approxamately. 3 jaw and 4 jaw chucks are both 4 inches in diameter. Leadscrew is 1/2" diameter x 16 pitch . Leadscrew gear is 64 tooth; stud gear is 48. I have a set of 9 other gears, but no thread gear chart so I guess I'll be figuring this out long-hand. * Largest gear in set is marked: M6-101-56 ; 56 being the tooth count. No quick change threading gear box like a South Bend 10K. Lantern post will take 3/8" wide shank tool holders. * Of course no operators' manual! I *think* that is the Craftsman version of the 6" Atlas. Anybody know where I could obtain a threading / feed gear chart? If it is anything like mine, you will find a threading chart riveted to the inside of the gear cover. That way, you will be sure that it is the right one for the machine. Operators manual would be nice, too! Try contacting the Clausing Service Center: 1 (574) 533-0371 and have the serial number and model number available, and you will be able to buy a manual for the lathe (a photocopy of their collection of manuals, tailored to your serial number). They might even be able to tell you when it was made. The could with my Clausing 5418, which was made in 1957. There is a big gear by itself in back of the spindle, within the gearbox. This gear can be moved in and out on an indent lever also behind the spindle, moving it fore or aft. Is this to be used as a back gear arrangement to allow low gears? When I engage it, it effectively locks the spindle, but I can't figure out how to get the spindle to spin free. A South Bend lathe has a pin to pull back to freeup the back gears. What am I missing here? Or does this gear have another function? Nope -- it is the back gear. The bull gear should have a pin coupling it to the cone pulley. You may have to rotate the spindle as much as half a turn to bring the head of the coupling pin into reach. Once you pull that, you can operate the back gear lever to engage that and have nice slow speeds with lots of torque -- at least lots for a machine of this size. :-) [ ... ] I have the original manual that has the speed chart. Send me an email address with your request(s). That will help him -- but as I said -- I *think* that the threading chart is inside the gear cover. Mine is, at least. Good Luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice Thanks guys
Hi,
- - See the file titled: Mk.2Manual.pdf ============================= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlas618lathe/files/ - - Craftsman Mk.2 Lathe, Model Number 101.21200 (circa 1973) ==================== http://www.lathes.co.uk/craftsman/page6.html - - SEARS: input Model Number 10121200 (no decimal point) ==================== http://www3.sears.com/ - Use the parts list here with the assembly drawings above to the Mk.2Manual.pdf file. - - An Operators Manual with parts list and drawings is available from Sears. I just ordered a copy for about $22 including UPS s&h. (Yeah, a little expensive---it's a hobby thing!) - I will do some test runs with the gear setups to see if the manual is correct as to the gearing. - Nope, no riveted gear chart. - - John Martin & Don N ===================== Your description I think applies to the older Atlas and Craftsman lathes, similar to the South Bend 10K lathe (pre-1973 Atlas) where the pulleys are internal in the middle of the headstock, accessable by a liftup, hinged cover . - - http://www.lathes.co.uk/craftsman/page5.html - Also another link of stuff I found: =========================== Machining and Metalworking at Home - - http://my.tbaytel.net/jstudio/ - (I hope my WebTV doesn't corrupt this note to you guys as I borrowed it off one of my Yahoo! Groups. Worse comes to worst I'll post an url back instead.) - Andy: ====== Thanks for the offer, I still may contact you if things go south. - Don: ===== Thanks for the Clausing info. I will probably contact them, too. - Thank you to all that replied, - -+- Kurt =================== - Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice **- Group: rec.crafts.metalworking Date: Sat, May 13, 2006, 7:53pm From: (Metal*Man) - I am rebuilding and tweaking a guy's old Craftsman metal lathe. I have a machinist's background but I'm not familiar with this little lathe. - Model Number is 101.21200 Serial Number is 001773 - Name tag states Sears Roebuck USA and Simpsons-Sears Limited-Canada - Swing is 6 inches. Bed is 18" center to center approxamately. 3 jaw and 4 jaw chucks are both 4 inches in diameter. Leadscrew is 1/2" diameter x 16 pitch . Leadscrew gear is 64 tooth; stud gear is 48. I have a set of 9 other gears, but no thread gear chart so I guess I'll be figuring this out long-hand. * Largest gear in set is marked: M6-101-56 ; 56 being the tooth count. No quick change threading gear box like a South Bend 10K. Lantern post will take 3/8" wide shank tool holders. * Of course no operators' manual! - Anybody know where I could obtain a threading / feed gear chart? Operators manual would be nice, too! - There is a big gear by itself in back of the spindle, within the gearbox. This gear can be moved in and out on an indent lever also behind the spindle, moving it fore or aft. Is this to be used as a back gear arrangement to allow low gears? When I engage it, it effectively locks the spindle, but I can't figure out how to get the spindle to spin free. A South Bend lathe has a pin to pull back to freeup the back gears. What am I missing here? Or does this gear have another function? - I found a couple other Yahoo! groups specific to Craftsman / Atlas. Anybody know of other sources for info? - (Yeah, I'm using WebTV to access USENET. I have had this browser for 6 years. I have a Dell PC with Windows XP, but I prefer doing Usenet this way.) - Thanks in advance for any help. - Take care, -+- Kurt |
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Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice Thanks guys
Nope, no riveted gear chart.
Mine doesn't have one either. I think I'll have to score a cover off ebay, then re-sell the cover after removing the chart. |
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Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice Thanks guys
Can someone please post a direct link to the Mk2 .PDF Manual here? I
was unable to access it from the link provided above. Thanks |
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Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice Thanks guys
I'm pretty sure it's on the Atlas 618 Yahoo group files section.
I'd check but I've divorced myself from that bunch. - - Rex B MMcCawley wrote: Can someone please post a direct link to the Mk2 .PDF Manual here? I was unable to access it from the link provided above. Thanks |
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Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice Hi_to_MMcCawley
Hi,
- I don't do Usenet with my PC. Also haven't tried this link with my PC. I do know if you want access to the .pdf link, ============= - See the file titled: Mk.2Manual.pdf ============================= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlas618lathe/files/ - you need to join up to this Group. It is free: ============= atlas618lathe : Atlas 618 Lathe Owners http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlas618lathe/ - You will find the link in the FILES section. - The Group owner is a little slow, give it a day or two for him to respond. In the input box tell him what model # of machine you have. - A Google search might provide a cache save for you to retrieve---haven't tried it. - I don't know, does my WebTV browser have advantages over a PC? Hard to believe. I only use my PC of stuff I can't access using my LBB (little black box). I get no crap using this thing. - Take care now, - -+- Kurt ================ - Craftsman 6 Inch Lathe: Need Advice ‹Thanks guys› Group: rec.crafts.metalworking Date: Wed, May 17, 2006, 8:24am (EDT-3) From: (MMcCawley) Can someone please post a direct link to the Mk2 .PDF Manual here? I was unable to access it from the link provided above. Thanks |
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