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Louis Ohland
 
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Default Wiremold powerstrip advise?


I'd like to bring power down to a bench without lots of diddling
about. Wiremold has the Plugmold, like a 3 foot or so power strip,
pre-assembled, with outlets every 8" or so.

Anyone use this or a similar product?

Otherwise, it's a pair of dual receptacle boxes, conduit, wire, and
manuel labor. (like manual labor, but different).
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Tim Shoppa
 
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Default Wiremold powerstrip advise?

Louis Ohland wrote:
I'd like to bring power down to a bench without lots of diddling
about. Wiremold has the Plugmold, like a 3 foot or so power strip,
pre-assembled, with outlets every 8" or so.

Anyone use this or a similar product?

Otherwise, it's a pair of dual receptacle boxes, conduit, wire, and
manuel labor. (like manual labor, but different).


If you've already got a nearby outlet, there are Plugmolds that you
just plug into that outlet. Like a power strip on steroids.

If you don't have a nearby outlet, then you have to run conduit or put
a junction box at the end to get electricity to the Plugmold.

Plugmold is not particularly cheap (I mean, materials cost for a couple
of boxes and outlets and conduit will be one-fifth the cost, and a
cheapo power strip will be one tenth the cost) but it's good stuff, the
outlets themselves are a couple steps up from the cheapo power strips.

Tim.

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I'm not bothered about installing a box to power the plugmold. Looking
at using a 20A model, not because I'll be drawing that much (mill is
about 7A) but why run the 14AWG plugmold when 12AWG is available?

Tim Shoppa wrote:
Louis Ohland wrote:
I'd like to bring power down to a bench without lots of diddling
about. Wiremold has the Plugmold, like a 3 foot or so power strip,
pre-assembled, with outlets every 8" or so.

Anyone use this or a similar product?

Otherwise, it's a pair of dual receptacle boxes, conduit, wire, and
manuel labor. (like manual labor, but different).


If you've already got a nearby outlet, there are Plugmolds that you
just plug into that outlet. Like a power strip on steroids.

If you don't have a nearby outlet, then you have to run conduit or put
a junction box at the end to get electricity to the Plugmold.

Plugmold is not particularly cheap (I mean, materials cost for a couple
of boxes and outlets and conduit will be one-fifth the cost, and a
cheapo power strip will be one tenth the cost) but it's good stuff, the
outlets themselves are a couple steps up from the cheapo power strips.

Tim.

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Louis Ohland wrote:
I'm not bothered about installing a box to power the plugmold. Looking
at using a 20A model, not because I'll be drawing that much (mill is
about 7A) but why run the 14AWG plugmold when 12AWG is available?


I thought all the plugmold (whether 15A or 20A) was wired internally
with 12AWG. In any event the wire length inside the plugmold is tiny
compared to the run outside, right?

If you'll be running flouroescent lights (generally more sensitive to
dips in line voltage) from the same outlet and the run is long and
flickering lights as the motor starts up bothers you, best solution is
probably a separate circuit for lighting.

Some localities have very odd restriction regarding 20A outlets and
where you're allowed and not allowed to put the outlets.

Tim.

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If the wiring in the plugmolds is 12AWG, then it's good to hook. The
breaker is 15A, so I doubt that the 12AWG line will heat up.
[figuratively speaking!]

Yes, the 3 foot or so is a small run.

Tim Shoppa wrote:
I thought all the plugmold (whether 15A or 20A) was wired internally
with 12AWG. In any event the wire length inside the plugmold is tiny
compared to the run outside, right?



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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:35:04 -0500, Louis Ohland
wrote:


I'd like to bring power down to a bench without lots of diddling
about. Wiremold has the Plugmold, like a 3 foot or so power strip,
pre-assembled, with outlets every 8" or so.

Anyone use this or a similar product?

Otherwise, it's a pair of dual receptacle boxes, conduit, wire, and
manuel labor. (like manual labor, but different).


I used some right above the backsplash on a workbench based on an 8'
kitchen counter with cabinets over I put in for my wife for stained
glass. It's a 6' with outlets every 6". I powered it through a gfci
outlet mounted in a plugmold box, wiremold down from ceiling, nm to
box. it's on a 20A breaker with 12 ga. wire, only about 15' total.
She runs the grinder, ring saw, and 100W soldering iron on it. I also
run a couple of the little fluorescent under counter lights on the
same circuit. Works good.

Pete Keillor
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:35:04 -0500, Louis Ohland
wrote:


I'd like to bring power down to a bench without lots of diddling
about. Wiremold has the Plugmold, like a 3 foot or so power strip,
pre-assembled, with outlets every 8" or so.

Anyone use this or a similar product?

Otherwise, it's a pair of dual receptacle boxes, conduit, wire, and
manuel labor. (like manual labor, but different).


Works well enough. Niche market..but is pretty common in commercial
installations

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3
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What was the Wiremold model? Sorta difficult now, since the sticker is
on the back side...

Pete Keillor wrote:
On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:35:04 -0500, Louis Ohland
wrote:

I'd like to bring power down to a bench without lots of diddling
about. Wiremold has the Plugmold, like a 3 foot or so power strip,
pre-assembled, with outlets every 8" or so.

Anyone use this or a similar product?

Otherwise, it's a pair of dual receptacle boxes, conduit, wire, and
manuel labor. (like manual labor, but different).


I used some right above the backsplash on a workbench based on an 8'
kitchen counter with cabinets over I put in for my wife for stained
glass. It's a 6' with outlets every 6". I powered it through a gfci
outlet mounted in a plugmold box, wiremold down from ceiling, nm to
box. it's on a 20A breaker with 12 ga. wire, only about 15' total.
She runs the grinder, ring saw, and 100W soldering iron on it. I also
run a couple of the little fluorescent under counter lights on the
same circuit. Works good.

Pete Keillor

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The sparky at the store I'm helping remodel just ripped abou 100' of
Plugmold off the wall and trashed it. I cried.
Tom
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:35:04 -0500, Louis Ohland
wrote:


I'd like to bring power down to a bench without lots of diddling
about. Wiremold has the Plugmold, like a 3 foot or so power strip,
pre-assembled, with outlets every 8" or so.

Anyone use this or a similar product?

Otherwise, it's a pair of dual receptacle boxes, conduit, wire, and
manuel labor. (like manual labor, but different).


Works well enough. Niche market..but is pretty common in commercial
installations

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3



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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 23:54:05 GMT, "Tom Wait"
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The sparky at the store I'm helping remodel just ripped abou 100' of
Plugmold off the wall and trashed it. I cried.
Tom



gack!!!!!!!!!!!!


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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:35:04 -0500, Louis Ohland
wrote:


I'd like to bring power down to a bench without lots of diddling
about. Wiremold has the Plugmold, like a 3 foot or so power strip,
pre-assembled, with outlets every 8" or so.

Anyone use this or a similar product?

Otherwise, it's a pair of dual receptacle boxes, conduit, wire, and
manuel labor. (like manual labor, but different).


Works well enough. Niche market..but is pretty common in commercial
installations

Gunner



"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3





"A prudent man foresees the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;
the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences."
- Proverbs 22:3
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