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Old March 16th 06, 06:45 PM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking,sci.engr.joining.welding
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Default Lincoln Idealarc TIG 300/300 VERSUS HOBART CYBERTIG CT300

I just bought the Idealarc and everyone was kind enough to comment on it.
Now, I have a chance to buy a Hobart Cybertig 300 amp machine, too.

The Hobart will cost $500.00, just like the Idealarc did (coincidence). I
am curious as to which one would be the best machine and why?

Also, the Idealarc did not come with a torch. Which one would be the best
to get?

Thank you.

k.o.



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Old March 16th 06, 09:56 PM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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Default Lincoln Idealarc TIG 300/300 VERSUS HOBART CYBERTIG CT300

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:45:45 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

I just bought the Idealarc and everyone was kind enough to comment on it.
Now, I have a chance to buy a Hobart Cybertig 300 amp machine, too.

The Hobart will cost $500.00, just like the Idealarc did (coincidence). I
am curious as to which one would be the best machine and why?

Also, the Idealarc did not come with a torch. Which one would be the best
to get?

Thank you.

k.o.

That probably depends mostly on the condition of the machines and
what comes with them.

The Cybertig has more features you may or may not ever need or use --
and more stuff to go wrong.
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Default Lincoln Idealarc TIG 300/300 VERSUS HOBART CYBERTIG CT300

Thanks for the input, Don.

Well, I love bells, whistles, lights, knobs, switches, etc.

I GUESS neither of these machines are squarewave. I don't even know if I
would want squarewave never having drawn a tig arc or seen anyone do it.

I hope that I can find a how-to video on tig so that I can have some idea of
what I may be doing.

Are all tig torches (water-cooled) pretty much alike? I may can get a
Profax unit cheaply.

What would you recommend as far as consumables, etc?


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On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:45:45 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

I just bought the Idealarc and everyone was kind enough to comment on it.
Now, I have a chance to buy a Hobart Cybertig 300 amp machine, too.

The Hobart will cost $500.00, just like the Idealarc did (coincidence). I
am curious as to which one would be the best machine and why?

Also, the Idealarc did not come with a torch. Which one would be the
best
to get?

Thank you.

k.o.

That probably depends mostly on the condition of the machines and
what comes with them.

The Cybertig has more features you may or may not ever need or use --
and more stuff to go wrong.



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Old March 17th 06, 12:30 AM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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Default Lincoln Idealarc TIG 300/300 VERSUS HOBART CYBERTIG CT300

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:07:48 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

Thanks for the input, Don.

Well, I love bells, whistles, lights, knobs, switches, etc.

I GUESS neither of these machines are squarewave. I don't even know if I
would want squarewave never having drawn a tig arc or seen anyone do it.

I hope that I can find a how-to video on tig so that I can have some idea of
what I may be doing.

Are all tig torches (water-cooled) pretty much alike? I may can get a
Profax unit cheaply.

What would you recommend as far as consumables, etc?

My only experience is with the Weldcraft WP-20, which I have found to
be completely satisfactory. I have no experience with Profax but
the model 20 looks very similar -- nearly identical.

Only consumables I know of are tungstens and filler rod -- and stuff
to practice on. I suppose collets, cups etc are consumables but they
are torch-specific.

I get my tungstens from:

http://store.aglevtech.net/index.html

They also offer CD's and videotapes on TIG (GTAW) welding. I've not
reviewed them.

I think you should quit shopping and start welding!
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Old March 17th 06, 01:16 AM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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Default Lincoln Idealarc TIG 300/300 VERSUS HOBART CYBERTIG CT300

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:56:35 -0600, Don Foreman
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:45:45 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

I just bought the Idealarc and everyone was kind enough to comment on it.
Now, I have a chance to buy a Hobart Cybertig 300 amp machine, too.

The Hobart will cost $500.00, just like the Idealarc did (coincidence). I
am curious as to which one would be the best machine and why?

Also, the Idealarc did not come with a torch. Which one would be the best
to get?

Thank you.

k.o.

That probably depends mostly on the condition of the machines and
what comes with them.

The Cybertig has more features you may or may not ever need or use --
and more stuff to go wrong.


Plus the Cybertig doesn't have good support now that Hobart has been
broken up. That said I've welded with both and prefer the Cybertig.


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Old March 17th 06, 10:44 AM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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Default Lincoln Idealarc TIG 300/300 VERSUS HOBART CYBERTIG CT300

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:30:36 -0600, Don Foreman
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I hope that I can find a how-to video on tig so that I can have some idea of
what I may be doing.

Are all tig torches (water-cooled) pretty much alike? I may can get a
Profax unit cheaply.

What would you recommend as far as consumables, etc?

My only experience is with the Weldcraft WP-20, which I have found to
be completely satisfactory. I have no experience with Profax but
the model 20 looks very similar -- nearly identical.

Only consumables I know of are tungstens and filler rod -- and stuff
to practice on. I suppose collets, cups etc are consumables but they
are torch-specific.

I get my tungstens from:

http://store.aglevtech.net/index.html

They also offer CD's and videotapes on TIG (GTAW) welding. I've not
reviewed them.

I think you should quit shopping and start welding!



I agree totally. I do have a W-18 torch on my 300 amp Airco square
wave, simply because I was doing some big aluminum at full output and
the smaller 20 was heating up a smidge..so I stuck on one of the
spares. But Ill put the 20 back on this coming weekend as its far far
handier to handle and does most everything up to about 250 amps

Gunner


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nobody's watching. There are not enough cops and laws to replace
personal morality as a means to produce a civilized society. Indeed,
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Old March 17th 06, 06:39 PM posted to rec.crafts.metalworking
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Default Lincoln Idealarc TIG 300/300 VERSUS HOBART CYBERTIG CT300

Thanks, Don and Gunner and Wayne.

I will take your advice. I DO want to stop shopping and get to welding but
I can't pick up my machine just yet.

k.o.



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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:07:48 GMT, "knowone"
wrote:

Thanks for the input, Don.

Well, I love bells, whistles, lights, knobs, switches, etc.

I GUESS neither of these machines are squarewave. I don't even know if I
would want squarewave never having drawn a tig arc or seen anyone do it.

I hope that I can find a how-to video on tig so that I can have some idea
of
what I may be doing.

Are all tig torches (water-cooled) pretty much alike? I may can get a
Profax unit cheaply.

What would you recommend as far as consumables, etc?

My only experience is with the Weldcraft WP-20, which I have found to
be completely satisfactory. I have no experience with Profax but
the model 20 looks very similar -- nearly identical.

Only consumables I know of are tungstens and filler rod -- and stuff
to practice on. I suppose collets, cups etc are consumables but they
are torch-specific.

I get my tungstens from:

http://store.aglevtech.net/index.html

They also offer CD's and videotapes on TIG (GTAW) welding. I've not
reviewed them.

I think you should quit shopping and start welding!





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