The other day I wanted to bend some 3/16 copper tubing to a 1/4"
radius. I don't have a tubing bender so I turned down the end of an
aluminum bar to 1/2" and I parted it off to a thickness of about .190".
I laid the tube in my milling machine vise, placed the disk down on top
and tightened the vise, then I bent the tube around the disk to the
desired angle. The vise jaws kept the tube from flattening.
one of the advantages is that disks can be quickly made to handle a
wide range of radii and tube sizes.
Has anyone heard of this before? Should I call a patent attorney? (80)

Engineman

wrote:
The other day I wanted to bend some 3/16 copper tubing to a 1/4"
radius. I don't have a tubing bender so I turned down the end of an
aluminum bar to 1/2" and I parted it off to a thickness of about .190".
I laid the tube in my milling machine vise, placed the disk down on top
and tightened the vise, then I bent the tube around the disk to the
desired angle. The vise jaws kept the tube from flattening.
one of the advantages is that disks can be quickly made to handle a
wide range of radii and tube sizes.
Has anyone heard of this before? Should I call a patent attorney? (80)

Engineman


It's too late for a patent, you already released the information on a public
forum. Nice idea, though.

GWE

I like it simple, guick and good idea.
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The other day I wanted to bend some 3/16 copper tubing to a 1/4"
radius. I don't have a tubing bender so I turned down the end of an
aluminum bar to 1/2" and I parted it off to a thickness of about .190".
I laid the tube in my milling machine vise, placed the disk down on top
and tightened the vise, then I bent the tube around the disk to the
desired angle. The vise jaws kept the tube from flattening.
one of the advantages is that disks can be quickly made to handle a
wide range of radii and tube sizes.
Has anyone heard of this before? Should I call a patent attorney? (80)

Engineman

Grant Erwin writes:

It's too late for a patent, you already released the information on a
public forum. Nice idea, though.


As I understand it, He's got a year to file his patent in the US after
publication. However - global rights can not be obtained.

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wrote:

The other day I wanted to bend some 3/16 copper tubing to a 1/4"
radius. I don't have a tubing bender so I turned down the end of an
aluminum bar to 1/2" and I parted it off to a thickness of about .190".
I laid the tube in my milling machine vise, placed the disk down on top
and tightened the vise, then I bent the tube around the disk to the
desired angle. The vise jaws kept the tube from flattening.
one of the advantages is that disks can be quickly made to handle a
wide range of radii and tube sizes.
Has anyone heard of this before? Should I call a patent attorney? (80)

Engineman

Sorry engineman, now you are infringing on MY invention!



Richard

I just checked my patent on the wall - (:-) - recalled it had 18 claims
against it before grant. That is, 18 times I had to Defend my position and
claims (a very complex 70 page patent) and educate the patent clerk in the progress.
The only good thing in the claim fight - it set the stage and notified the
competitors who was the He bull. It takes a team of attorneys - both locally
and in Washington DC. Mine, also in Japan and Europe(Netherlands).

And thank goodness I didn't pay for it - didn't get the benefits of it either...

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH & Endowment Member
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder


wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:03:24 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
Grant Erwin quickly quoth:


wrote:

The other day I wanted to bend some 3/16 copper tubing to a 1/4"
radius. I don't have a tubing bender so I turned down the end of an
aluminum bar to 1/2" and I parted it off to a thickness of about .190".
I laid the tube in my milling machine vise, placed the disk down on top
and tightened the vise, then I bent the tube around the disk to the
desired angle. The vise jaws kept the tube from flattening.
one of the advantages is that disks can be quickly made to handle a
wide range of radii and tube sizes.
Has anyone heard of this before? Should I call a patent attorney? (80)

Engineman


It's too late for a patent, you already released the information on a public
forum. Nice idea, though.


I've never bothered with patents, either. By the time you make enough
profit to pay for the searches, filing fees, and the bloody attorney,
someone will have knocked it off anyway. All patents do is allow you
to spend more money defending them.

Engineman, just build and sell your inventions, QUICK!

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Ignoramus9292 wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:03:24 -0800, Grant Erwin wrote:
wrote:
The other day I wanted to bend some 3/16 copper tubing to a 1/4"
radius. I don't have a tubing bender so I turned down the end of an
aluminum bar to 1/2" and I parted it off to a thickness of about .190".
I laid the tube in my milling machine vise, placed the disk down on top
and tightened the vise, then I bent the tube around the disk to the
desired angle. The vise jaws kept the tube from flattening.
one of the advantages is that disks can be quickly made to handle a
wide range of radii and tube sizes.
Has anyone heard of this before? Should I call a patent attorney? (80)

Engineman


It's too late for a patent, you already released the information on a public
forum. Nice idea, though.

I am sorry if I am a latecomer to this thread and say something that
was said already, but the fact thet he publicised his own idea does
not utomatically make it not patentable. What is important is that the
invention is original, and that is in no way harmed by publication. In
fact, a documented publication makes it easier to claim authorship.


I was thinking the same thing.

What better way to document something than putting it in the permanent
Google archives?

Or course it can also get your idea stolen a lot easier, and also make
it easier for unscrupulous individuals to study the best way to win a
patent infringment case against you, or improve on *your* idea.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

On 19 Feb 2006 22:37:44 -0800, wrote:


Ignoramus9292 wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:03:24 -0800, Grant Erwin wrote:
wrote:
The other day I wanted to bend some 3/16 copper tubing to a 1/4"
radius. I don't have a tubing bender so I turned down the end of an
aluminum bar to 1/2" and I parted it off to a thickness of about .190".
I laid the tube in my milling machine vise, placed the disk down on top
and tightened the vise, then I bent the tube around the disk to the
desired angle. The vise jaws kept the tube from flattening.
one of the advantages is that disks can be quickly made to handle a
wide range of radii and tube sizes.
Has anyone heard of this before? Should I call a patent attorney? (80)

Engineman


It's too late for a patent, you already released the information on a public
forum. Nice idea, though.

I am sorry if I am a latecomer to this thread and say something that
was said already, but the fact thet he publicised his own idea does
not utomatically make it not patentable. What is important is that the
invention is original, and that is in no way harmed by publication. In
fact, a documented publication makes it easier to claim authorship.


I was thinking the same thing.

What better way to document something than putting it in the permanent
Google archives?

Or course it can also get your idea stolen a lot easier, and also make
it easier for unscrupulous individuals to study the best way to win a
patent infringment case against you, or improve on *your* idea.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Here also and didn't want to say anything cause there are many draw
backs. I keep one going and will hold off on about 8 more in my head,
but at least there is a deterrent. If you do it yourself it only costs
about a grand for 4 years. The OP has a yr. to file, at least last I
saw. Their are trying to change it to a world system so that it's
first to file crap.

wrote:
... The vise jaws kept the tube from flattening. ...

Since there are square corners in your "die", was there any distortion
there? I.e., did the tube tend to expand into the corners?

Bob

Oh - nice idea, I've filed it for future use.

Since there are square corners in your "die", was there any distortion

there? I.e., did the tube tend to expand into the corners?

No, but there were barely noticable flat spots on the curved parrt of
the tubing.
Engineman

What's really fun, is when you put an idea like that in a place like
this, and then a few weeks later somebody comes along in the same
thread going "Looky what I did!" without even a how do you do to the
person that came up with the idea in the first place. Just had my butt
chapped that way in another group. I didn't expect anything out of it,
just trying to help, but even a "Hey I had that idea too, and here is
how I did it, very similar to yours" would've been nice.