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Another Newbie's Question Of The Day

Hello all
After broken my piggy bank for a lathe and a mill (actually sailing on a
boat to reunion island) I have no more money for the magnificent coolant
tank and pump and I ask an another newbie question :
Can I do all metalworking without this item and how can I proceed?
Can I use manually some drops of special mix with water or entire oil?
What sort of oil?


Jean-Luc HOAREAU
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Depends on what you are maching. I use kerosene on aluminum all the
time all you need is just a little to keep the tool from sticking.
Coolant is nice in enclosed machines but is very messy on open lathes
and knee mills. Spray mist works well for lots of applications and
isn't nearly so messy. I use an acid brush to apply cutting oils on
small parts and it works well.
Charlie

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Depends on what you are maching. I use kerosene on aluminum all the
time all you need is just a little to keep the tool from sticking.
Coolant is nice in enclosed machines but is very messy on open lathes
and knee mills. Spray mist works well for lots of applications and
isn't nearly so messy. I use an acid brush to apply cutting oils on
small parts and it works well.
Charlie

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Depends on what you are maching. I use kerosene on aluminum all the
time all you need is just a little to keep the tool from sticking.
Coolant is nice in enclosed machines but is very messy on open lathes
and knee mills. Spray mist works well for lots of applications and
isn't nearly so messy. I use an acid brush to apply cutting oils on
small parts and it works well.
Charlie

Thank you Charlie for the kerosene tip with aluminium
For iron spray are very expensive. Is there another way? Like some drops of
oil mixture?


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On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 09:43:49 +0400, "Gil HASH"
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Another Newbie's Question Of The Day

Hello all
After broken my piggy bank for a lathe and a mill (actually sailing on a
boat to reunion island) I have no more money for the magnificent coolant
tank and pump and I ask an another newbie question :
Can I do all metalworking without this item and how can I proceed?
Can I use manually some drops of special mix with water or entire oil?
What sort of oil?


Jean-Luc HOAREAU
Indian ocean


Hey Jean-Luc,

If the boat has not sailed yet, ask the shipper to send along a gallon
or so of un-diluted "water-soluble" cutting oil. You mix this with
plain water in about a 50:1 ratio, and apply the diluted as needed
only. Most lathe and milling work should not require coolant,
although that is totally a subjective decision per job. The mixture
can be applied in "squirts" from an old shampoo bottle or even a cheap
oil can, or from an old empty kitchen-cleaner spray bottle, spraying
directly to the cutter as you go.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.


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"Gil HASH" wrote in news:436d981a
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Another Newbie's Question Of The Day

Hello all
After broken my piggy bank for a lathe and a mill (actually sailing on a
boat to reunion island) I have no more money for the magnificent coolant
tank and pump and I ask an another newbie question :
Can I do all metalworking without this item and how can I proceed?
Can I use manually some drops of special mix with water or entire oil?
What sort of oil?


You can just apply cutting oil to the tool and/or work with an acid brush.
Do a Google search on "cutting oil" and you should be able to find
something that you can get delivered to your location. Mobil comes to mind
as being available world-wide. It's as good as anything.

I would stay away from water soluble coolant for a manual machine with no
enclosure or coolant pump.


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A coolant system is more of a luxury than a necessity for the hobbyist.
Like others have mentioned, I got along fine with a few squirt bottles
for the last forty years.
Bugs

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"Gil HASH" wrote in
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Another Newbie's Question Of The Day

Hello all
After broken my piggy bank for a lathe and a mill (actually sailing on
a boat to reunion island) I have no more money for the magnificent
coolant tank and pump and I ask an another newbie question :
Can I do all metalworking without this item and how can I proceed?
Can I use manually some drops of special mix with water or entire oil?
What sort of oil?


A spray mist system is easily made from scrap parts, provided you have
an air compressor. You need 2 small valves, some small copper tubing, a
bucket or can, and a T or Y fitting for the copper tubing. (You don't
even need the fitting if you are good with a file, and can
braze/solder.)


You can get 1 gal concentrates of soluble oil for use with it.

As others have said, you can also use a squirt bottle from the
kitchen/bathroom.


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Hey Gil,

No problem. Glad we could help. Even I was amazed at all that you
got.

Drop in again anytime with any WTFIHTA, AWWWC sort of stuff.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Botrhwell, Ontario.


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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:14:56 -0500, Brian Lawson
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On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:37:49 +0400, "Gil HASH"
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Hey Gil,

No problem. Glad we could help. Even I was amazed at all that you
got.

Drop in again anytime with any WTFIHTA, AWWWC sort of stuff.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Botrhwell, Ontario.



Oh...ps to myself.. WTFIHTA, AWWWC means
What The F Is He Talking About, And Why Would We Care.
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Oh...ps to myself.. WTFIHTA, AWWWC means
What The F Is He Talking About, And Why Would We Care.


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You can with a small investment rig a drip system.

You need a holder for something like a pint milk jug or soda bottle, a
length of small diameter plastic tubing and a vale to control the flow.
Magnetic holder to keep the end of the tube over the cutter.

Drip about one drop a second , depending on what you are cutting.

This makes a real mess on a manual lathe.

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The mixture
can be applied in "squirts" from an old shampoo bottle or even a cheap
oil can, or from an old empty kitchen-cleaner spray bottle, spraying
directly to the cutter as you go.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.



I use a 20 oz soda bottle with a small hole drilled in the lid. For some
reason, there are always more than enough of them laying around the shop.


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