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Alex
 
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Default Anyone has Shop Fox 17" Drill Press?

My local shop has Shop Fox 17" Floor Drill Press model W1680 for $270
which seems o be a good deal.
Here is the specs:
1 HP 1720 RPM, 12 speed Motor, 110/220 Volt, 3-1/4" spindle travel, 5/8" Drill Chuck,
750 RPM - 3050 RPM, 17" swing, 14" Diameter Table

If anyone has this drill press please share your experience.


Thanks,
Alex
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Grant Erwin
 
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Alex wrote:
My local shop has Shop Fox 17" Floor Drill Press model W1680 for $270
which seems o be a good deal.
Here is the specs:
1 HP 1720 RPM, 12 speed Motor, 110/220 Volt, 3-1/4" spindle travel, 5/8"
Drill Chuck, 750 RPM - 3050 RPM, 17" swing, 14" Diameter Table

If anyone has this drill press please share your experience.


750 rpm isn't very slow! It would be tough to use a hole saw on steel in that
guy. The chuck is probably useless with more than .010" runout, I have seen many
import drill chucks with up to 1/32" runout. I take it this has a 3MT tapered
spindle (once you remove the chuck, of course, using the drift pin they
hopefully have) and there is little or no runout in the spindle itself? And that
it runs very quietly and smoothly with little vibration in any speed? And has an
integral work light? And a rack/pinion arrangement to raise/lower the table? If
yes to all, then it's probably worth $270, a reasonable price to sell to a
reputable dealer for a used 17" DP, certainly far too high to pay a private
party. Basically for that price it should be just like new and in perfect
condition.

See http://www.tinyisland.com/htbdrillp.txt

GWE
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Christopher Tidy
 
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Default Anyone has Shop Fox 17" Drill Press?

Grant Erwin wrote:
Alex wrote:

My local shop has Shop Fox 17" Floor Drill Press model W1680 for $270
which seems o be a good deal.
Here is the specs:
1 HP 1720 RPM, 12 speed Motor, 110/220 Volt, 3-1/4" spindle travel,
5/8" Drill Chuck, 750 RPM - 3050 RPM, 17" swing, 14" Diameter Table

If anyone has this drill press please share your experience.



750 rpm isn't very slow! It would be tough to use a hole saw on steel in
that guy. The chuck is probably useless with more than .010" runout, I
have seen many import drill chucks with up to 1/32" runout. I take it
this has a 3MT tapered spindle (once you remove the chuck, of course,
using the drift pin they hopefully have) and there is little or no
runout in the spindle itself? And that it runs very quietly and smoothly
with little vibration in any speed? And has an integral work light? And
a rack/pinion arrangement to raise/lower the table? If yes to all, then
it's probably worth $270, a reasonable price to sell to a reputable
dealer for a used 17" DP, certainly far too high to pay a private party.
Basically for that price it should be just like new and in perfect
condition.

See http://www.tinyisland.com/htbdrillp.txt

GWE


Maybe Alex is actually talking about a new drill press? I can find this
model new for $345 doing a Google search.

Chris

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Default Anyone has Shop Fox 17" Drill Press?

Yes it's actually a new drill press.
The specs I posted before wrong.
Here a correct and complete specs.

# Motor size: 1 H.P., 1720 RPM
# Voltage: 110V/220V
# Switch: Toggle Type
# Overall height: 65-1/2"
# Spindle travel: 3-1/4"
# Spindle taper: MT#3
# Drill chuck: 5/8"
# Number of speeds: 12
# Range of speeds: 140-3050 R.P.M.
# Swing: 17"
# Drilling capacity: 1" steel
# Soft feed knobs for less hand fatigued
# Table: Precision ground cast iron
# Table size: 14" diameter

Is there anything inherently wrong with MT#3 taper?

Thanks,
Alex



Christopher Tidy wrote:
Grant Erwin wrote:

Alex wrote:

My local shop has Shop Fox 17" Floor Drill Press model W1680 for $270
which seems o be a good deal.
Here is the specs:
1 HP 1720 RPM, 12 speed Motor, 110/220 Volt, 3-1/4" spindle travel,
5/8" Drill Chuck, 750 RPM - 3050 RPM, 17" swing, 14" Diameter Table

If anyone has this drill press please share your experience.




750 rpm isn't very slow! It would be tough to use a hole saw on steel
in that guy. The chuck is probably useless with more than .010"
runout, I have seen many import drill chucks with up to 1/32" runout.
I take it this has a 3MT tapered spindle (once you remove the chuck,
of course, using the drift pin they hopefully have) and there is
little or no runout in the spindle itself? And that it runs very
quietly and smoothly with little vibration in any speed? And has an
integral work light? And a rack/pinion arrangement to raise/lower the
table? If yes to all, then it's probably worth $270, a reasonable
price to sell to a reputable dealer for a used 17" DP, certainly far
too high to pay a private party. Basically for that price it should be
just like new and in perfect condition.

See http://www.tinyisland.com/htbdrillp.txt

GWE



Maybe Alex is actually talking about a new drill press? I can find this
model new for $345 doing a Google search.

Chris

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Link to specs on this drill:
http://www.shopfox.biz/w1680.cfm




Christopher Tidy wrote:
Grant Erwin wrote:

Alex wrote:

My local shop has Shop Fox 17" Floor Drill Press model W1680 for $270
which seems o be a good deal.
Here is the specs:
1 HP 1720 RPM, 12 speed Motor, 110/220 Volt, 3-1/4" spindle travel,
5/8" Drill Chuck, 750 RPM - 3050 RPM, 17" swing, 14" Diameter Table

If anyone has this drill press please share your experience.




750 rpm isn't very slow! It would be tough to use a hole saw on steel
in that guy. The chuck is probably useless with more than .010"
runout, I have seen many import drill chucks with up to 1/32" runout.
I take it this has a 3MT tapered spindle (once you remove the chuck,
of course, using the drift pin they hopefully have) and there is
little or no runout in the spindle itself? And that it runs very
quietly and smoothly with little vibration in any speed? And has an
integral work light? And a rack/pinion arrangement to raise/lower the
table? If yes to all, then it's probably worth $270, a reasonable
price to sell to a reputable dealer for a used 17" DP, certainly far
too high to pay a private party. Basically for that price it should be
just like new and in perfect condition.

See http://www.tinyisland.com/htbdrillp.txt

GWE



Maybe Alex is actually talking about a new drill press? I can find this
model new for $345 doing a Google search.

Chris



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"Alex" wrote in message
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Link to specs on this drill:
http://www.shopfox.biz/w1680.cfm




Christopher Tidy wrote:
Grant Erwin wrote:

Alex wrote:

My local shop has Shop Fox 17" Floor Drill Press model W1680 for $270
which seems o be a good deal.
Here is the specs:
1 HP 1720 RPM, 12 speed Motor, 110/220 Volt, 3-1/4" spindle travel,
5/8" Drill Chuck, 750 RPM - 3050 RPM, 17" swing, 14" Diameter Table

If anyone has this drill press please share your experience.



750 rpm isn't very slow! It would be tough to use a hole saw on steel in
that guy. The chuck is probably useless with more than .010" runout, I
have seen many import drill chucks with up to 1/32" runout. I take it
this has a 3MT tapered spindle (once you remove the chuck, of course,
using the drift pin they hopefully have) and there is little or no
runout in the spindle itself? And that it runs very quietly and smoothly
with little vibration in any speed? And has an integral work light? And
a rack/pinion arrangement to raise/lower the table? If yes to all, then
it's probably worth $270, a reasonable price to sell to a reputable
dealer for a used 17" DP, certainly far too high to pay a private party.
Basically for that price it should be just like new and in perfect
condition.

See http://www.tinyisland.com/htbdrillp.txt

GWE



Maybe Alex is actually talking about a new drill press? I can find this
model new for $345 doing a Google search.

Chris



Shop Fox makes pretty good import tools. The drill you mention it pretty
common. Most every manufacturer has a Taiwan built drill press in their line
up. I have a very similar Jet drill press sold by Jet, that was built in
Taiwan. Chuck has less than .001" run out. My drill press was used
commercially for 5 years, then for home shop use for the last 15 years!
If the drill press fit my needs I would buy it.
Greg


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According to Alex :
Yes it's actually a new drill press.
The specs I posted before wrong.
Here a correct and complete specs.

# Motor size: 1 H.P., 1720 RPM
# Voltage: 110V/220V


[ ... ]

# Spindle taper: MT#3
# Drill chuck: 5/8"
# Number of speeds: 12
# Range of speeds: 140-3050 R.P.M.


Is there anything inherently wrong with MT#3 taper?


Nope -- it is an excellent way to mount drill chucks and other
drilling tools (such as MT-shank drill bits).

But -- as already mentioned, 140 RPM is not really slow enough
even for the maximum size drill bit which will fit in the supplied chuck
-- at least for use in steel. The MT-3 spindle can *directly* drive at
least 1" drill bits -- so you would be seriously overspeed there.

I strongly suspect that it is yet another of the imports from
China. (Mine came from Taiwan, as I got it back around 1976 or so.)
*All* of those which I have seen come with too big a drill chuck
capacity for the slowest speed of which they are capable -- at least for
work in steel.

In your first article in this thread, you mentioned "12-speed
motor". I think that you will actually find that it is a single speed
motor, and you will have to shift belts to different pulley steps to get
the various speeds. I expect a four step pulley on the motor on the
spindle, and on the idler in the middle. I have a 16-speed version,
which has five steps on two of those at least. I think the motor and
the idler. And my drill press is marginal in terms of lowest spindle
speed, just like all of the other imports. I keep being tempted to yank
the existing motor and toss in a three-phase motor and a VFD so I can
tune up slower speeds at need.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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