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I have been told that it is difficult to laser cut styrene as the plastic
will burn and curl up as the laser cuts through it. I assume that this is due to the heat insulative properties of styrene. The question, is there a plastic that will cut easily, is glueable, bendable, and can be etched in a thickness down to .005 or .010 inch? I have heard that acrylic that is laser cut is too thick. I don't know about ABS, and heard that PVC fumes are too dangerous. Thanks Keith Walker |
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Think about a lid to a drink cup. That is made from HIPS or High Impact
Poly Styrene. As far as being easy to cut those are punched out by steel rule dies. What exactly are you trying to make? -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. "news.verizon.net" wrote in message news:s5iZe.1053$qC4.330@trnddc02... I have been told that it is difficult to laser cut styrene as the plastic will burn and curl up as the laser cuts through it. I assume that this is due to the heat insulative properties of styrene. The question, is there a plastic that will cut easily, is glueable, bendable, and can be etched in a thickness down to .005 or .010 inch? I have heard that acrylic that is laser cut is too thick. I don't know about ABS, and heard that PVC fumes are too dangerous. Thanks Keith Walker |
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![]() "news.verizon.net" wrote in message news:s5iZe.1053$qC4.330@trnddc02... I have been told that it is difficult to laser cut styrene as the plastic will burn and curl up as the laser cuts through it. I assume that this is due to the heat insulative properties of styrene. The question, is there a plastic that will cut easily, is glueable, bendable, and can be etched in a thickness down to .005 or .010 inch? I have heard that acrylic that is laser cut is too thick. I don't know about ABS, and heard that PVC fumes are too dangerous. Thanks Keith Walker The best (and cheapest) way to cut and engrave most plastics is with a CNC router. The machines can cut as fast as laser and give an excellent finish if the travel speed is kept at reasonable speed. Most cutting contractors prefur a DXF format drawing as do the laser cutters. An alternative which is slower and usually more expensive is water jet. I usually reserve that for hard stuff like tungsten carbide or glass,but it will cut plastics very nicely if that's all that's available in your area. Tom |
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As for engraving, I am looking to scribe a very thin line, as in .00025"
I don't think a router will get me that. Keith Walker "Tom Miller" wrote in message . .. : : "news.verizon.net" wrote in message : news:s5iZe.1053$qC4.330@trnddc02... : I have been told that it is difficult to laser cut styrene as the plastic : will burn and curl up as the laser cuts through it. : : I assume that this is due to the heat insulative properties of styrene. : : The question, is there a plastic that will cut easily, is glueable, : bendable, and can be etched in a thickness down to .005 or .010 inch? : : I have heard that acrylic that is laser cut is too thick. : : I don't know about ABS, and heard that PVC fumes are too dangerous. : : Thanks : Keith Walker : : : The best (and cheapest) way to cut and engrave most plastics is with a CNC : router. The machines can cut as fast as laser and give an excellent finish : if the travel speed is kept at reasonable speed. Most cutting contractors : prefur a DXF format drawing as do the laser cutters. An alternative which is : slower and usually more expensive is water jet. I usually reserve that for : hard stuff like tungsten carbide or glass,but it will cut plastics very : nicely if that's all that's available in your area. : : Tom : : : |
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![]() "news.verizon.net" wrote in message news:4tNZe.3095$il4.2625@trnddc04... As for engraving, I am looking to scribe a very thin line, as in .00025" I don't think a router will get me that. I am worried about your choice of material. Styrene is not going to be an exact thickness so trying to hold that kind of accuracy is not going to happen. Also if you try and do it with a laser, you are going to get some heat deformation. What exactly are you trying to make? -- __ Roger Shoaf Important factors in selecting a mate: 1] Depth of gene pool 2] Position on the food chain. |
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![]() Roger, I am thinking of designing an model airplane kit analogous to the way paper airplane kits are designed. Big difference is that if you make the kit out of styrene, you can bend, glue, sand and paint it. With paper as your medium you can not do that! Hence my requirement for thin line widths (within reason) Here is a good example of paper kits: http://www.papermodels.co.il/ Keith Walker Roger Shoaf wrote: I am worried about your choice of material. Styrene is not going to be an exact thickness so trying to hold that kind of accuracy is not going to happen. Also if you try and do it with a laser, you are going to get some heat deformation. What exactly are you trying to make? |
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![]() "Keith Walker" wrote in message news:jo3_e.11951$TQ3.6949@trnddc05... Roger, I am thinking of designing an model airplane kit analogous to the way paper airplane kits are designed. Big difference is that if you make the kit out of styrene, you can bend, glue, sand and paint it. With paper as your medium you can not do that! Hence my requirement for thin line widths (within reason) Here is a good example of paper kits: http://www.papermodels.co.il/ Keith Walker OK Keith, let's think about something here. .00025 inches is an unreasonable quest for a line to be scribed on a chunk of plastic. You would need the light just right and good magnification just to see it. If you wanted to cut out pieces to assemble an airplane out of styrene like the card model you showed you can cut them out with a pair of scissors or an ex-acto knife. If you wanted to make a bunch of them and pre-cut the model parts, then you can get a steel rule die made up to cut them out of sheet stock. That is low tech and cheep. You may also wish to consider vacuum forming some of the more intricate curves. This is also cheep but requires a certain degree of skill to make the molds, but far less than injection molding. Lasers a really great tools but you really don't need to go there to make toys. -- Roger Shoaf If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the Congress? |
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I've had fiberglass-epoxy, polycarbonate, and acrylic laser cut in
thicknesses down to 1/16 inch. The FRP and PC had charring on the edges, but the cuts were otherwise OK. Acrylic had the cleanest finish - almost polished. As for "etching" plastics, that's usually a thing I try to avoid have happen, so I can't offer any advice there. Some shops will not cut plastics at all anymore because of the fumes and OSHA. Give these folks a call or email: http://www.rontro.com/ They have no problems with prototype/small orders, and they're willing to cut plastics. news.verizon.net wrote: I have been told that it is difficult to laser cut styrene as the plastic will burn and curl up as the laser cuts through it. I assume that this is due to the heat insulative properties of styrene. The question, is there a plastic that will cut easily, is glueable, bendable, and can be etched in a thickness down to .005 or .010 inch? I have heard that acrylic that is laser cut is too thick. I don't know about ABS, and heard that PVC fumes are too dangerous. Thanks Keith Walker |
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