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Leo Lichtman
 
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"xray" wrote: (Clip) Did I just get one bad wheel, or does Norton make a lot
of crap? (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Norton is supposed to be a good brand. Check to see whether the wheel has
something stuck to the hub that's preventing it from seating properly.
Place the wheel on a flat surface and sight for "out of flatness."

It seems extremely unlikely that a reputable company could be doing this. I
use lots of CHEAP wheels from Harbor Freight, and never have problems.


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xray wrote:

Did I just get one bad wheel, or does Norton make a lot of crap? I'm
concerned because all the local stores I've checked seem to carry Norton
wheels.


First, the "big" Makita angle grinder is good quality. Second, Norton
wheels are said to be good. We don't have them here (without searching),
but their surface grinding wheels are good, so they know what they do.

Now to your wheel:
It _sometimes_ happens, that, after some abuse, the wheel gets out of
balance. You either dump it, or get it back to run smooth by using it.
IMHO Makita wheels are bad. All wheels I got with my Makitas were of low
quality.

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I recently picked up a Makita 4.5 inch angle grinder at the

local Home Despot.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey, you stole this from me.

Go to yer local welding supply shop and pick up an aluminum grinding wheel.
You'll be absolutely amazed....
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Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll




For the most part, I really like it -- wish I had got one a long
time ago for the convenience and all the stuff you can do with it.

When I bought it I picked up several wheels and attachments. One of the
things I got was a spare grinding wheel by Norton. The other day I was
grinding the edge of 1/8" steel and the grinder was bouncing and
skipping and making noise. Never did that before. I decided to change
wheels, and in the process realized I had been using the Norton wheel.
When I went back to the Makita wheel everthing was fine again. The
Norton was apparently not spinning true.

Did I just get one bad wheel, or does Norton make a lot of crap? I'm
concerned because all the local stores I've checked seem to carry Norton
wheels.




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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:01:19 GMT, xray
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I recently picked up a Makita 4.5 inch angle grinder at the local Home
Despot. For the most part, I really like it -- wish I had got one a long
time ago for the convenience and all the stuff you can do with it.

When I bought it I picked up several wheels and attachments. One of the
things I got was a spare grinding wheel by Norton. The other day I was
grinding the edge of 1/8" steel and the grinder was bouncing and
skipping and making noise. Never did that before. I decided to change
wheels, and in the process realized I had been using the Norton wheel.
When I went back to the Makita wheel everthing was fine again. The
Norton was apparently not spinning true.

Did I just get one bad wheel, or does Norton make a lot of crap? I'm
concerned because all the local stores I've checked seem to carry Norton
wheels.

I have many Norton wheels. For the surface grinder. I like 'em.
ERS
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Norton is THE company for real, commercial-quality abrasives. At the
shop we grind 99.9% aluminum and use traditional grinding wheels
rarely. We have a makita 4.5" angle grinder and go through loads of
norton cubic zirconia 80 grit flap wheels. We use fresh ones for rough
work and used ones with most of the grit worn off to put a honed finish
on pieces.



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"woodworker88" wrote in message
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Norton is THE company for real, commercial-quality abrasives.


snip----

Agreed. Norton is the leader in the grinding wheel industry.

Harold


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"xray" wrote

It's in the trash now.


Don't hesitate to toss a wheel. Your eyes are worth more than a wheel.

Steve


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Don't hesitate to toss a wheel. Your eyes are worth more than a wheel.


One of our guys was grinding a die with a pneumatic disc grinder at a
customer's shop. He was *aggressively* grinding between his legs (you
conform to the die, not the other way around).

After the disc exploded, he had to be taken out of the plant in a wheelchair
as he was so swollen as to be unable to stand up. Not sure if he wanted
(more) kids or not.

Definitely not worth it.

Regards,

Robin


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Second, Norton
wheels are said to be good. We don't have them here (without searching),
but their surface grinding wheels are good, so they know what they do.


I have numerous Norton surface grinding wheels and they run well.
But I am not impress with their bench grinder wheels. I bought
some 10 inchs ones from MSC and they are thicker on one side than
the other and still do not run well after a lot of dressing with a diamond.

Therefore I assume that the wheels are made to differnet specs and
probably by different manufacturing plants too.

chuck
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I recently picked up a Makita 4.5 inch angle grinder



I picked up one at an auction a couple weeks ago...and didnt realize
at the time it has a much smaller arbor than normal. Is there an
adapter to run a larger center (standard 5/8") wheel?

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner


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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:41:03 GMT, Gunner
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I recently picked up a Makita 4.5 inch angle grinder



I picked up one at an auction a couple weeks ago...and didnt realize
at the time it has a much smaller arbor than normal. Is there an
adapter to run a larger center (standard 5/8") wheel?


Forney sells adapters for them. Be sure to find out what pitch the
grinder spindle is since there's more than one pitch made.

Wayne Cook
Shamrock, TX
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 08:46:26 -0500, Wayne Cook
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:41:03 GMT, Gunner
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I recently picked up a Makita 4.5 inch angle grinder



I picked up one at an auction a couple weeks ago...and didnt realize
at the time it has a much smaller arbor than normal. Is there an
adapter to run a larger center (standard 5/8") wheel?


Forney sells adapters for them. Be sure to find out what pitch the
grinder spindle is since there's more than one pitch made.

Wayne Cook
Shamrock, TX
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook/index.htm



Cool. I now keep the grinder and a Weld-pak 100 in the truck. Once my
customers have found out I can do quickie weld repairs on guarding and
Stuff..Ive gotten enough work to pay for the welder already, as an
adjunct to my normal service work. Next time I pull the welder out,
Ill make enough to buy another HF autodarkening mask.

I bought the Makita at an auction for $10, from a guy who bid on it
and a Milwalkee and got em both for $15..and had no use for either of
them, let alone 2.

Auction fever....lol

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
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"Chuck Sherwood" wrote in message
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Second, Norton
wheels are said to be good. We don't have them here (without searching),
but their surface grinding wheels are good, so they know what they do.


I have numerous Norton surface grinding wheels and they run well.
But I am not impress with their bench grinder wheels. I bought
some 10 inchs ones from MSC and they are thicker on one side than
the other and still do not run well after a lot of dressing with a
diamond.

Therefore I assume that the wheels are made to differnet specs and
probably by different manufacturing plants too.

chuck



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"Chris" wrote in message
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"Chuck Sherwood" wrote in message
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Second, Norton
wheels are said to be good. We don't have them here (without searching),
but their surface grinding wheels are good, so they know what they do.


I have numerous Norton surface grinding wheels and they run well.
But I am not impress with their bench grinder wheels. I bought
some 10 inchs ones from MSC and they are thicker on one side than
the other and still do not run well after a lot of dressing with a
diamond.

Therefore I assume that the wheels are made to differnet specs and
probably by different manufacturing plants too.

chuck


I have had the highest regard for Norton. Never had a problem with the
grinding stones.

I just recently loaded up on a lot of Norton sanding discs for the orbital
sander from the local HD. Cannot seem to stop them from clogging and no
luck cleaning them. Looked at the box of sanding discs and now I see they
are made in Canada (nothing wrong with Canada, just not what I expected).
So maybe it is just the company that bought out Norton is just using their
name.

Stranger yet the local HD where I got them is about 1/4 mile from the Norton
plant that I assumed was making the sanding discs. Go figure.

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Chris

If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a
soldier. If it is in ebonics, thank your Congressman.



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xray wrote:

Except for the problem with the one Norton wheel that I bought at the same
time.


So you buy them one at a time and each shrink wrapped? :-)
Lowest quantity I get mine is 20 pcs. But our home-despot[tm]-wannabe
sells them a piece. And every single is crap. There _are_ differences!
The cheapos aren't even approved by or DSA (kind of welders union).


Nick
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""Nick Müller"" wrote in message
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xray wrote:

Except for the problem with the one Norton wheel that I bought at the
same
time.


So you buy them one at a time and each shrink wrapped? :-)
Lowest quantity I get mine is 20 pcs. But our home-despot[tm]-wannabe
sells them a piece. And every single is crap. There _are_ differences!
The cheapos aren't even approved by or DSA (kind of welders union).


Nick
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Motor Modelle // Engine Models
http://www.motor-manufaktur.de


I think he is taking about the 1/4" thick discs. HD here sells them in
singles, never seen them packed. Although I might be wrong. Cut-off discs
are another thing altogether.


Just curious the wannabe be do you mean Bauhaus?

Chris


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Chris wrote:

I think he is taking about the 1/4" thick discs.


I also only get them in 20's at the dealer who sells good quality. Yes,
I could get them in singles elsewhere, but why pay more?


Just curious the wannabe be do you mean Bauhaus?


Yes, for example. Also Obi, Praktiker, Hornbach and all the other
Chinese crap outlets.

Nick
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Chris wrote:

I think he is taking about the 1/4" thick discs.


I also only get them in 20's at the dealer who sells good quality. Yes,
I could get them in singles elsewhere, but why pay more?


Just curious the wannabe be do you mean Bauhaus?


Yes, for example. Also Obi, Praktiker, Hornbach and all the other
Chinese crap outlets.

Curious about Baywa. Are they selling Chinese crap yet? I thought they
were holding back because of their relations to the farmers. Knowing how
farming is going in Germany this past decade, curious if Baywa changed their
game.

Do not feel too bad about the Chinese crap. At least you still have a good
amount of tools being made over there.


Thanks,
Chris


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Chris wrote:

Curious about Baywa.


I live in Munic, so BayWa is not an option. They start to have their
shops in the outskirts. I would guess you are right that they sell
better stuff.


Do not feel too bad about the Chinese crap. At least you still have a good
amount of tools being made over there.


OK, the digital scale was a deal. :-)


Nick
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""Nick Müller"" wrote in message
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Chris wrote:

Curious about Baywa.


I live in Munic, so BayWa is not an option. They start to have their
shops in the outskirts. I would guess you are right that they sell
better stuff.


Do not feel too bad about the Chinese crap. At least you still have a
good
amount of tools being made over there.


OK, the digital scale was a deal. :-)


Nick



Ok thanks.

BTW just looked at your Ellwe. Very IMPRESSIVE work. 800 hours is nothing,
as for me it would be counted in years to accomplish something like this.
Hopefully someday soon.

Chris


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