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Getting a tool "signed" - how?
I have a chance coming up to meet the founding CEO
of a tool company. I own some (nice) tools made by this company. Assuming I can sweet talk the person into signing my tool, how should I prepare? Do I need a fountain pen full of acid? A resist covered tool and a scribe? This will be at a trade show, so facilities are limited - I can't turn up with a powered up vibro-engraver! Suggestions gratefully received. BugBear |
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bugbear wrote:
I have a chance coming up to meet the founding CEO of a tool company. I own some (nice) tools made by this company. Assuming I can sweet talk the person into signing my tool, how should I prepare? Do I need a fountain pen full of acid? A resist covered tool and a scribe? This will be at a trade show, so facilities are limited - I can't turn up with a powered up vibro-engraver! Suggestions gratefully received. BugBear If you're going to retire the tool then just a sharpie will do. I like the idea of the resist-covered tool & scribe, but you may want to experiment with it first, and remember that you'll get all the scratches in the resist as well as the signature, so wrap it in something soft coming and going. The sharpie itself may be good enough resist -- you could have him sign it, then paint resist around the signature leaving a rectangular box, then etch out everything in the box but not on the signature. Again, you should experiment first. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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Depending on the tool, a good sharp awl will work fine. I've got a bunch
of steel tools that my grandfather signed (to keep them from walking). Looks as much like his signature as the ones I have on the some of his old books. Probably wouldn't work on plate though. |
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bugbear wrote:
I have a chance coming up to meet the founding CEO of a tool company. I own some (nice) tools made by this company. Assuming I can sweet talk the person into signing my tool, how should I prepare? Do I need a fountain pen full of acid? A resist covered tool and a scribe? This will be at a trade show, so facilities are limited - I can't turn up with a powered up vibro-engraver! Suggestions gratefully received. BugBear You could have him sign with a Sharpie, then scan the signature with a flatbed scanner into a graphics file. Then a laser engraving company could use that file to engrave the signature where it was signed. They might do it cheap for the novelty of it. Fred |
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You could have him sign with a Sharpie, then scan the signature with a flatbed scanner into a graphics file. Then a laser engraving company could use that file to engrave the signature where it was signed. They might do it cheap for the novelty of it. Fred Fred, Good idea. But it raises a question. Is this not forging a signature? You are in fact duplicating a signature. On a funny side note, you can in fact forge your own signature by using the wrong date. |
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Chris wrote:
You could have him sign with a Sharpie, then scan the signature with a flatbed scanner into a graphics file. Then a laser engraving company could use that file to engrave the signature where it was signed. They might do it cheap for the novelty of it. Fred Fred, Good idea. But it raises a question. Is this not forging a signature? You are in fact duplicating a signature. It would only be forgery if the intent was to deceive or defraud. For example, if more than one engraving were done and each presented as the original, say for financial gain, that would be forgery. |
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"Chris" wrote in message ...
You could have him sign with a Sharpie, then scan the signature with a flatbed scanner into a graphics file. Then a laser engraving company could use that file to engrave the signature where it was signed. Good idea. But it raises a question. Is this not forging a signature? You are in fact duplicating a signature. It's very difficult to have an original laser-etched signature. g I like the sharpie resist method (if necessary, ask him to go over it twice, or use a circuit board resist pen). Might have to use some gnarly acids to work with chrome plating though. Tim -- Deep Fryer: a very philosophical monk. Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms |
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On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:53:18 -0500, "Tim Williams"
wrote: "Chris" wrote in message ... You could have him sign with a Sharpie, then scan the signature with a flatbed scanner into a graphics file. Then a laser engraving company could use that file to engrave the signature where it was signed. Good idea. But it raises a question. Is this not forging a signature? You are in fact duplicating a signature. It's very difficult to have an original laser-etched signature. g I like the sharpie resist method (if necessary, ask him to go over it twice, or use a circuit board resist pen). Might have to use some gnarly acids to work with chrome plating though. Tim You can electrostrip chrome with muriatic acid. |
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I'd mill down a flat, say 1/8" + deep. Have it signed there with a
Sharpie. Then get some 1/8" acrylic to cover it. bugbear wrote: I have a chance coming up to meet the founding CEO of a tool company. I own some (nice) tools made by this company. Assuming I can sweet talk the person into signing my tool, how should I prepare? Do I need a fountain pen full of acid? A resist covered tool and a scribe? This will be at a trade show, so facilities are limited - I can't turn up with a powered up vibro-engraver! Suggestions gratefully received. BugBear |
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Don Foreman wrote:
You can electrostrip chrome with muriatic acid. That's interesting. Have you done it? If so, what are the basic requirements (acid strength, voltage, current, polarity, any special requirement for the other pole)? How fast is it? Thanks, Bob |
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:51:58 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote: Don Foreman wrote: You can electrostrip chrome with muriatic acid. That's interesting. Have you done it? If so, what are the basic requirements (acid strength, voltage, current, polarity, any special requirement for the other pole)? How fast is it? I haven't done it; my reference is Caswell's Plating Manual. 2 parts acid to 1 part water. Polarity would be workpiece positive. Cathode (other pole) might be chrome, stainless or carbon. Voltage would be fairly low, maybe 3 volts or so. Strip rate would vary with current. Chrome plating takes a lot of current -- an amp per sq in or so -- stripping might be similar. Caswell also offers an alkaline chrome stripper that requires current. I haven't tried that either. The advantage to the alkaline stripper is that it doesn't attack underlying nickel. |
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Tim Wescott wrote:
bugbear wrote: I have a chance coming up to meet the founding CEO of a tool company. I own some (nice) tools made by this company. Assuming I can sweet talk the person into signing my tool, how should I prepare? Do I need a fountain pen full of acid? A resist covered tool and a scribe? This will be at a trade show, so facilities are limited - I can't turn up with a powered up vibro-engraver! Suggestions gratefully received. BugBear If you're going to retire the tool then just a sharpie will do. I like the idea of the resist-covered tool & scribe, but you may want to experiment with it first, and remember that you'll get all the scratches in the resist as well as the signature, so wrap it in something soft coming and going. The sharpie itself may be good enough resist -- you could have him sign it, then paint resist around the signature leaving a rectangular box, then etch out everything in the box but not on the signature. Again, you should experiment first. Thanks for the tips. The substantive part of the tool is non-plated fine cast iron, with some good large areas for signing. I'll look into resist/etch ideas. BugBears |
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bugbear writes:
Do I need a fountain pen full of acid? I have no idea whether it can work on steel tools, but I've actually used those, on aluminum. I used to work at a place where we used pens with a special ink that contained an acid, to write serial numbers and other data onto completed products built from aluminum parts machined in-house. -tih -- Don't ascribe to stupidity what can be adequately explained by ignorance. |
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A 12 V lantern battery, Sam's Club 500 W inverter, and engraver/dremel?
Oh yeah, 'n' a backpack... ---------------------------- Mr. P.V.'d formerly Droll Troll "bugbear" wrote in message ... I have a chance coming up to meet the founding CEO of a tool company. I own some (nice) tools made by this company. Assuming I can sweet talk the person into signing my tool, how should I prepare? Do I need a fountain pen full of acid? A resist covered tool and a scribe? This will be at a trade show, so facilities are limited - I can't turn up with a powered up vibro-engraver! Suggestions gratefully received. BugBear |
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