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Anyone know lots about trucks / trailers?
Who is the largest trailer manufacture for big rig boxes? Wabash is second
I think, but who is first? Alternate bonus question: Who are the top 10, 25, etc. -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 (908) 542-0244 http://www.AutoDrill.com http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R |
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Joe AutoDrill wrote:
Who is the largest trailer manufacture for big rig boxes? Wabash is second I think, but who is first? Alternate bonus question: Who are the top 10, 25, etc. Joe, I Think Wabash National is number one, followed in no particular order: Strick,Trailmobile,Great Dane,Utility, Stoughton,Hyundai,Monon, Ultralite. In Canada the largest is Manac. Hope this helps Greg |
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"Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message
news:dXDPe.8570$Fq2.2526@trndny03... Who is the largest trailer manufacture for big rig boxes? Wabash is second I think, but who is first? Alternate bonus question: Who are the top 10, 25, etc. Dunno but virtually all the trailers on the roads around here are Freuhoff [sp?] and that's been the case for a *very* long time. |
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Joe, I Think Wabash National is number one, followed in no particular
order: Strick,Trailmobile,Great Dane,Utility, Stoughton,Hyundai,Monon, Ultralite. In Canada the largest is Manac. Hope this helps Excellent! Thank you... -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 (908) 542-0244 http://www.AutoDrill.com http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R |
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Dunno but virtually all the trailers on the roads around here are Freuhoff
[sp?] and that's been the case for a *very* long time. Where is "here"? Just curious... -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 (908) 542-0244 http://www.AutoDrill.com http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R |
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"Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message
news:QQGPe.319$cY.230@trndny06... Dunno but virtually all the trailers on the roads around here are Freuhoff [sp?] and that's been the case for a *very* long time. Where is "here"? Just curious... Texas Gulf Coast - Houston area I also have seen a very large number (I quit counting decades ago) of the Freuhoff nameplates on the I-45/I-35/I-29 route to N. Minnesota and I-10 to the PRK. |
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Dunno but virtually all the trailers on the roads around here are
Freuhoff [sp?] and that's been the case for a *very* long time. Where is "here"? Just curious... Texas Gulf Coast - Houston area I also have seen a very large number (I quit counting decades ago) of the Freuhoff nameplates on the I-45/I-35/I-29 route to N. Minnesota and I-10 to the PRK. Thank you... Or as they say in my favorite Austin restaurant, "Muchos Nachos!" -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 (908) 542-0244 http://www.AutoDrill.com http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R |
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RAM^3 wrote:
"Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message news:dXDPe.8570$Fq2.2526@trndny03... Who is the largest trailer manufacture for big rig boxes? Wabash is second I think, but who is first? Alternate bonus question: Who are the top 10, 25, etc. Dunno but virtually all the trailers on the roads around here are Freuhoff [sp?] and that's been the case for a *very* long time. Fruehauf trailer USED to be the lastest trailer maker in the world. They got in trouble in the late '80s and lingered around into the mid '90s when the were assimilated into Wabash National. The trailer makers ran into the same problems the automakers faced. Over capacity, high operating costs, cycles of boom and bust and , well some of them made dumb business decisions. Those factors brought about a consolidation in the industry. Joe, I forgot about CNF (the Conway trucking companies), they have their own trailer manufacturing plant. Road Equipment or something like that. Greg |
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"Greg Postma" wrote in message
... RAM^3 wrote: "Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message news:dXDPe.8570$Fq2.2526@trndny03... Who is the largest trailer manufacture for big rig boxes? Wabash is second I think, but who is first? Alternate bonus question: Who are the top 10, 25, etc. Dunno but virtually all the trailers on the roads around here are Freuhoff [sp?] and that's been the case for a *very* long time. Fruehauf trailer USED to be the lastest trailer maker in the world. They got in trouble in the late '80s and lingered around into the mid '90s when the were assimilated into Wabash National. The trailer makers ran into the same problems the automakers faced. Over capacity, high operating costs, cycles of boom and bust and , well some of them made dumb business decisions. Those factors brought about a consolidation in the industry. Joe, I forgot about CNF (the Conway trucking companies), they have their own trailer manufacturing plant. Road Equipment or something like that. Greg Ah so desu ka! |
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Who is the largest trailer manufacture for big rig boxes? Wabash is second
I think, but who is first? Alternate bonus question: Who are the top 10, 25, etc. Stay the hell away from Wabash! They have been bought by Fruehauf, by the way. I bought a new 53' X 102" Wabash dry van about 1999. I went to the factory and picked it up, so no one but me and my wife had ever pulled it. That PIECE OF **** was in the shop on average every three weeks while I had it! It had alignment problems from the factory, but of course alignments aren't covered under warrantee. The alignment bolts fell out on the road! I took it to the warrantee approved shop in Mobile. AL. They said I would have to pay, because it wasn't covered under warrantee. I had to have it, so I said fix it. The mechanic came back and said he couldn't align it, as there wasn't enough adjustment! They had to cut it with a torch and move parts and reweld it. Wabash ate that as a factory defect, but I paid every time after that, and it happened often. This was the first year they had a no weld alignment. I finally had it welded, over the protests of the mechanics who claimed it would void my warrantee (the one that didn't cover anything and didn't pay) It didn't stop the problems. The welds broke. The alignment bolts continued to fall out. It ate tires for breakfast. It even broke an axle in California! I sat for a week, and was told they had them on the line to build trailers with, but none in the parts system. After a week, the dealer took an axle out from under a new one and sent me down the road. I wound up parking that POS and telling them to come get it. It was a major reason I went out of business and declared bankruptcy. Ron Thompson On the Beautiful Florida Space Coast, right beside the Kennedy Space Center, USA http://www.plansandprojects.com My hobby pages are he http://www.plansandprojects.com/My%20Machines/ Visit my new site: http://www.titusvillefl.net The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. --Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903) |
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SNIP
It was a major reason I went out of business and declared bankruptcy. Jeez... Sorry to hear of your woes! Lets hope they fixed their internal problems!!! Otherwise, they won't be around for very much longer... -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 (908) 542-0244 http://www.AutoDrill.com http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R |
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Fruehauf used to build their own axles, suspensions and brakes. All
different from the Rockwell or Rockwell clone stuff used by the rest of the trailer manufacturers. Had to get the parts from them, at their prices, or from a few aftermarket parts suppliers. You want to keep costs down, you buy equipment that has common parts that can be bought from any truck dealer, not just the OEM dealer. Competition keeps things within reason. Applies to cars, too: buy some oddball import and be captive to their prices. Dan |
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oups.com... Fruehauf used to build their own axles, suspensions and brakes. All different from the Rockwell or Rockwell clone stuff used by the rest of the trailer manufacturers. Had to get the parts from them, at their prices, or from a few aftermarket parts suppliers. You want to keep costs down, you buy equipment that has common parts that can be bought from any truck dealer, not just the OEM dealer. Competition keeps things within reason. Applies to cars, too: buy some oddball import and be captive to their prices. I think that is sound advice. I actually started the thread because all of a sudden, a few large trailer manufacturers purchased a good number of my pneumatic drills for floor board installation, etc. I figure that if the big boys that contacted me need the units, then the smaller outfits will follow shortly. Why not perform a pre-emptive strike and send my lit to them, or something... -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 (908) 542-0244 http://www.AutoDrill.com http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R |
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:19:00 GMT, the blithe spirit "Joe AutoDrill"
clearly indicated: I actually started the thread because all of a sudden, a few large trailer manufacturers purchased a good number of my pneumatic drills for floor board installation, etc. I figure that if the big boys that contacted me need the units, then the smaller outfits will follow shortly. Why not perform a pre-emptive strike and send my lit to them, or something... Don't forget to highlight "Used by all the big boys" in the lit, Joe. Good sales to ya, dude! -- Like they say, 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name. ------------------------------------------------------ http://diversify.com Lawyer-free Website Development |
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In early days of the automotive industry there were many auto mfgs who
were assemblers rather than someone who also built their own major assemblies. There were companies in business to build just auto engines, others to build axle assemblies, gearboxes, wheels, etc. Even today, no mfgs build EVERY part of car. Seems to me I remember a story that claims that the Seldon group denied Ford membership because he was an assembler, not a "manufacturer". That is why he decided to take on the Seldon patent, the book said. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... Don't forget to highlight "Used by all the big boys" in the lit, Joe. Good sales to ya, dude! Thanks. If and when this busy time slows down (yesterday seemed slow because everyone was too busy watching the news so I had time to think a bit) I'll jump on my pile of "we should really do this" stuff. One of which is a push to these folks... The file is a few inches thick right now anyhow. I wish I could release actual info on how they set our machines up, but most of the huge companies out there make you sign a "you can't tell anyone squat about this" clause before buying. I've refused to sign from time to time because I know I'm so much cheaper than the biggest suppliers in my industry, and we almost always win the contract anyhow, but I hesitate to actually put pictures or drawings of the custom layouts and all in our literature. If I did, I can guarantee a call from just about anyone doing this the old way. The other issue is whether I WANT to sell that much stuff and be that busy... When it's raining out, I do, but when the weather is nice and the motorcycle is calling me, I want to be on some country or farm road chasing bugs... Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 (908) 542-0244 http://www.AutoDrill.com http://www.Multi-Drill.com |
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:58:03 GMT, the blithe spirit "Joe AutoDrill"
clearly indicated: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . Don't forget to highlight "Used by all the big boys" in the lit, Joe. Good sales to ya, dude! Thanks. If and when this busy time slows down (yesterday seemed slow because everyone was too busy watching the news so I had time to think a bit) I'll jump on my pile of "we should really do this" stuff. One of which is a push to these folks... The file is a few inches thick right now anyhow. I don't watch the news but did catch Maria playing tennis last night. Yowza! 6'2" of female perfection, that. Bychkova is pretty much a babe, too. (Hurricane? What hurricane?) I wish I could release actual info on how they set our machines up, but most of the huge companies out there make you sign a "you can't tell anyone squat about this" clause before buying. I've refused to sign from time to time because I know I'm so much cheaper than the biggest suppliers in my industry, and we almost always win the contract anyhow, but I hesitate to actually put pictures or drawings of the custom layouts and all in our literature. If I did, I can guarantee a call from just about anyone doing this the old way. It can truly suck to have to hold to your good ethics in this intensely greedy world, can't it? insincere grin The other issue is whether I WANT to sell that much stuff and be that busy... When it's raining out, I do, but when the weather is nice and the motorcycle is calling me, I want to be on some country or farm road chasing bugs... I'da thunk you ate well enough that you wouldn't have to resort to the insectuous "Happy Biker Meal", Joe. So, do these guys prevent you from showing their names in your client list? That in itself could boost sales. Play up the mystique angle! -- "Given the low level of competence among politicians, every American should become a Libertarian." -- Charley Reese, Alameda Times-Star (California), June 17, 2003 |
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I'da thunk you ate well enough that you wouldn't have to resort to the
insectuous "Happy Biker Meal", Joe. They're only "happy meals" if they have Ronald on the box or don't have stingers... So, do these guys prevent you from showing their names in your client list? That in itself could boost sales. Play up the mystique angle! Not sure to be honest... Will have to look at that angle. Another page for the file of "when we are slow enough to think about extra stuff to do". -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 (908) 542-0244 http://www.AutoDrill.com http://www.Multi-Drill.com V8013-R |
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