Just acquired an Enco 1024 Lathe, ca 1986.
Looks like a nice machine. 10x24, several chucks, steady, Aloris, bench etc.
I'd like to get a manual on it, but doubt Enco will be helpful here.
Any of you have this machine, and can offer advice as to weaknesses,
recommended upgrades etc?

Thanks in advance

Rex B
Keller TX

I've had good luck getting manuals from Enco. They have some on-line. You
should check there first. gl John
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Just acquired an Enco 1024 Lathe, ca 1986.
Looks like a nice machine. 10x24, several chucks, steady, Aloris, bench
etc.
I'd like to get a manual on it, but doubt Enco will be helpful here. Any
of you have this machine, and can offer advice as to weaknesses,
recommended upgrades etc?

Thanks in advance

Rex B
Keller TX

Rex wrote:

Just acquired an Enco 1024 Lathe, ca 1986.
Looks like a nice machine. 10x24, several chucks, steady, Aloris, bench
etc.
I'd like to get a manual on it, but doubt Enco will be helpful here. Any
of you have this machine, and can offer advice as to weaknesses,
recommended upgrades etc?

Does it look the same as my Jet 1024?

http://www.grumpyoldgeek.com/images/lathe.jpg

If so, I can tell you it's a decent machine. It's
not a Monarch EE, but it gets the job done. I
made this part with it yesterday:

http://www.grumpyoldgeek.com/images/scopetube.jpg

It's a custom eyepiece tube for my daughter's
microscope. It adapts a modern Nikon 10x eyepiece
to her 50 year old Wild-Heerbrugg scope.

Metric threads, boring, groving, turning. It took
me the better part of an hour to figure out how
to rearrange the geartrain for metric, but it did
work fine once I got it.

The lathe electrics were crap and ended up in the
recycle bin. I installed a Leason 1 hp 3 phase
motor and a Hitachi 1hp VFD. An excellent investment.

I have a manual, but it doesn't say much. I don't
remember where I got it.

Jim
I had run across references to a Jet 1024PY, which is probably
what you have. It's very similar, but there are differences. Looks
like the Jet may have been produced from the 1960's at least through the
1980s, so the differences may well be generational.
By the way, what's that machine behind it?

Things I'd like to know obout this Enco:

What is the spindle taper?
How do you change the belts (disassembly of headstock). Looks like
original belts, obviously distressed, B29 & B32 sizes.
Does it have power crossfeed? (Mine is not powered up yet)
There is a big knurled knob at the top of the headstock that appears to
reverse leadscrew direction, like a tumble reverse. Is that what it is?

Gloat: I got this machine complete with bench, steady, 4-jaw, 3jaw,
faceplate, Hardinge Speed closer, Aloris QCTP (plus original turret
post), live, dead, & bull centers, metric change gears, plus some
miscellaneous tooling, all for $600.

They have other machine tools which I'll list in a separate post in case
anyone is interested.

- -
Rex Burkheimer
Fort Worth TX

Jim Stewart wrote:
Rex wrote:

Just acquired an Enco 1024 Lathe, ca 1986.
Looks like a nice machine. 10x24, several chucks, steady, Aloris,
bench etc.
I'd like to get a manual on it, but doubt Enco will be helpful here.
Any of you have this machine, and can offer advice as to weaknesses,
recommended upgrades etc?


Does it look the same as my Jet 1024?

http://www.grumpyoldgeek.com/images/lathe.jpg

If so, I can tell you it's a decent machine. It's
not a Monarch EE, but it gets the job done. I
made this part with it yesterday:

http://www.grumpyoldgeek.com/images/scopetube.jpg

It's a custom eyepiece tube for my daughter's
microscope. It adapts a modern Nikon 10x eyepiece
to her 50 year old Wild-Heerbrugg scope.

Metric threads, boring, groving, turning. It took
me the better part of an hour to figure out how
to rearrange the geartrain for metric, but it did
work fine once I got it.

The lathe electrics were crap and ended up in the
recycle bin. I installed a Leason 1 hp 3 phase
motor and a Hitachi 1hp VFD. An excellent investment.

I have a manual, but it doesn't say much. I don't
remember where I got it.

My lathe looks just like the one in the picture.
It's a fairly good machine but some of the things I've discovered about
it a
The head does not rest on the v ways. If you ever have to take the head
off it can be quite a job to realign.
If you are machining work held in a collet the carriage strikes a hub
on the leadscrew before you can get close to the workpiece.
The angle graduations on the compound rest do not exist where they are
needed for threading angles.
There probably a few other nitpicky things I could say but I'm not sure
they wouldn't apply to other lathe brans also.
Engineman


Jim Stewart wrote:
Rex wrote:

Just acquired an Enco 1024 Lathe, ca 1986.
Looks like a nice machine. 10x24, several chucks, steady, Aloris,
bench
etc.
I'd like to get a manual on it, but doubt Enco will be helpful
here. Any
of you have this machine, and can offer advice as to weaknesses,
recommended upgrades etc?

Does it look the same as my Jet 1024?

http://www.grumpyoldgeek.com/images/lathe.jpg

If so, I can tell you it's a decent machine. It's
not a Monarch EE, but it gets the job done. I
made this part with it yesterday:

http://www.grumpyoldgeek.com/images/scopetube.jpg

It's a custom eyepiece tube for my daughter's
microscope. It adapts a modern Nikon 10x eyepiece
to her 50 year old Wild-Heerbrugg scope.

Metric threads, boring, groving, turning. It took
me the better part of an hour to figure out how
to rearrange the geartrain for metric, but it did
work fine once I got it.

The lathe electrics were crap and ended up in the
recycle bin. I installed a Leason 1 hp 3 phase
motor and a Hitachi 1hp VFD. An excellent investment.

I have a manual, but it doesn't say much. I don't
remember where I got it.

Sure enough, Enco no longer has a manual available.
So if anyone were to have a manual they could scan, 'twould be appreciated.

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

John D. Farr wrote:
I've had good luck getting manuals from Enco. They have some on-line. You
should check there first. gl John
"Rex" wrote in message
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Just acquired an Enco 1024 Lathe, ca 1986.
Looks like a nice machine. 10x24, several chucks, steady, Aloris, bench
etc.
I'd like to get a manual on it, but doubt Enco will be helpful here. Any
of you have this machine, and can offer advice as to weaknesses,
recommended upgrades etc?

Thanks in advance

Rex B
Keller TX

Spindle taper is # 4-1/2 Morse
I've had my lathe 14 years with the original belts and would use some
sort of link belt for replacement rather than dissasemble the spindle
and countershaft.
For power crossfeed you move the feed lever to the right and down.
Longitudinal feed is left and up.
I think the knob you are referring to engages the backgear. If you
engage it the spindle will lock up until you pull out the pin in the
gear on the spindle. You will now be in backgear.

I have a 24 page parts and instruction manual, much of which is
irrelevant information but if you want any specific info I could scan a
page or two.
Engineman1

Engineman

So the spindle taper is 4.5 MT?? Never heard of such. Fortunately
there is an adapter sleeve down to 3MT included.

There is a lever on the right rear of the headstock that moves the
backgear in and out.
The knob I have is on the front of the headstock, upper left corner.
About 1.5" knurled diameter, about 2" protusion, satin finish.
The label depicts rotation, and opposite rotation, but I can't see how
it affects the leadscrew drive. I'm sure I'll be able to figure it out.

I guess the pages that would be of most interest to me would be (in order)

- exploded parts diagram
- Instructions for use of metric threading change gears
- drawing of machine with controls labeled
- Specs
- lube specs. Looks like there are 2 sight-glasses for the headstock
bearings.

Right now this thing is still in the bed of my pickup, awaiting a trip
to the shop, cleaning and proper setup.

Thank you for the help

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

wrote:
Spindle taper is # 4-1/2 Morse
I've had my lathe 14 years with the original belts and would use some
sort of link belt for replacement rather than dissasemble the spindle
and countershaft.
For power crossfeed you move the feed lever to the right and down.
Longitudinal feed is left and up.
I think the knob you are referring to engages the backgear. If you
engage it the spindle will lock up until you pull out the pin in the
gear on the spindle. You will now be in backgear.

I have a 24 page parts and instruction manual, much of which is
irrelevant information but if you want any specific info I could scan a
page or two.
Engineman1

In article , Rex B "" wrote:
Engineman

So the spindle taper is 4.5 MT?? Never heard of such. Fortunately
there is an adapter sleeve down to 3MT included.

Hie the to a copy of _Machinery's Handbook_.

Open to the second on tapers, and in particular to the section
on "ASA tapers". ASA took as their standard, a combination of three
tapers.

B&S for the smallest ones, IIRC,

Morse for the middle ones,

Jarno for the largest ones.

But -- they found a big gap between the MT-4 and the MT-5, so
they (or someone before them) created the MT 4-1/2.

IIRC, the taper per inch is precisely the same as either the
MT-4 or the MT-5 -- unlike all other Morse tapers, none of which
precisely match each other.

It turns out to be a good size feeding into a 1-3/8" spindle
bore, with an adaptor for 5C collets. I've got it on my 12x24" Clausing
lathe.

Enjoy,
DoN.
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Ah, that makes sense.
Thanks for the explanation.

- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

DoN. Nichols wrote:
In article , Rex B "" wrote:

Engineman

So the spindle taper is 4.5 MT?? Never heard of such. Fortunately
there is an adapter sleeve down to 3MT included.


Hie the to a copy of _Machinery's Handbook_.

Open to the second on tapers, and in particular to the section
on "ASA tapers". ASA took as their standard, a combination of three
tapers.

B&S for the smallest ones, IIRC,

Morse for the middle ones,

Jarno for the largest ones.

But -- they found a big gap between the MT-4 and the MT-5, so
they (or someone before them) created the MT 4-1/2.

IIRC, the taper per inch is precisely the same as either the
MT-4 or the MT-5 -- unlike all other Morse tapers, none of which
precisely match each other.

It turns out to be a good size feeding into a 1-3/8" spindle
bore, with an adaptor for 5C collets. I've got it on my 12x24" Clausing
lathe.

Enjoy,
DoN.