An email forwarded from an old and dear but green as alge friend


"Dear Friend,


No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge. But President Bush is now claiming a mandate to do exactly
that.


Congressional leaders are pushing for a budget bill that would turn
America's greatest sanctuary for Arctic wildlife into a vast, polluted
oil field. The U.S. Senate has already passed a budget resolution that
would open the Arctic Refuge to oil drilling.


But to complete its assault on the refuge, Congress must still pass
two different budget measures. We urgently need your help to prevent
passage of any final budget agreement that includes Arctic drilling.


Please go to the NRDC Action Fund website
(http://www.nrdcactionfund.org/redfor...p=2&item=52387)
right now and send a message telling your U.S. senators and
representative to reject this sneak attack on the Arctic Refuge.


And please forward my message to your friends, family, and colleagues.
We must mobilize millions of Americans in opposition as quickly as
possible.


Don't believe for a second that the president is targeting the Arctic
Refuge for the sake of America's energy security or to lower gas
prices at the pump.


President Bush knows full well that oil drilled in the Arctic Refuge
would take ten years to get to market and would never equal more than
a paltry one or two percent of our nation's daily consumption. Simply
put, sacrificing the crown jewel of our wildlife heritage would do
nothing to reduce gas prices or break our addiction to Persian Gulf
oil.


But if the raid on the Arctic Refuge isn't really about gas prices or
energy security, then what is it about?


It's the symbolism.


The Arctic Refuge represents everything spectacular and everything
endangered about America's natural heritage. It embodies a million
years of ecological serenity . . . a vast stretch of pristine
wilderness . . . an irreplaceable birthing ground for polar bears,
caribou and white wolves.


It is the greatest living reminder that conserving nature in its wild
state is a core American value. It stands for every remnant of
wilderness that we, as a people, have wisely chosen to protect from
the relentless march of bulldozers, chain saws and oil rigs.


And that's why the Bush administration is dead set on destroying it.


By unlocking the Arctic Refuge, they hope to open the door for oil,
gas and coal giants to invade our last and best wild places: our
western canyonlands, our ancient forests, our coastal waters, even our
national monuments.


This is the real agenda behind the raid on the Arctic Refuge and the
entire Bush-Cheney energy plan: to transfer our public estate into
corporate hands so it can be liquidated for a quick buck.


Please go to the NRDC Action Fund website
(http://www.nrdcactionfund.org/redfor...p=2&item=52387)
and tell your senators and representative they have no mandate to
destroy the Arctic Refuge. Then please be sure to forward this message
to as many people as you can.


And thank you for speaking out at this critical time.


Sincerely,


Robert Redford
NRDC Action Fund

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do
so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of
regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well
please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long
that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals.
They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a
grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist
state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same
sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees,
fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete
subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that
walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view
the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate
each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or
Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces
to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr

If it were up to me we would drill a hole every 5 feet, the Canadians are
already drilling sideways.

I thought Robert Redford was moving out of the country after the election?
I hope he takes Jane Fonda with him!

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
An email forwarded from an old and dear but green as alge friend


"Dear Friend,


No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge. But President Bush is now claiming a mandate to do exactly
that.


Congressional leaders are pushing for a budget bill that would turn
America's greatest sanctuary for Arctic wildlife into a vast, polluted
oil field. The U.S. Senate has already passed a budget resolution that
would open the Arctic Refuge to oil drilling.


But to complete its assault on the refuge, Congress must still pass
two different budget measures. We urgently need your help to prevent
passage of any final budget agreement that includes Arctic drilling.


Please go to the NRDC Action Fund website
(http://www.nrdcactionfund.org/redfor...p=2&item=52387)
right now and send a message telling your U.S. senators and
representative to reject this sneak attack on the Arctic Refuge.


And please forward my message to your friends, family, and colleagues.
We must mobilize millions of Americans in opposition as quickly as
possible.


Don't believe for a second that the president is targeting the Arctic
Refuge for the sake of America's energy security or to lower gas
prices at the pump.


President Bush knows full well that oil drilled in the Arctic Refuge
would take ten years to get to market and would never equal more than
a paltry one or two percent of our nation's daily consumption. Simply
put, sacrificing the crown jewel of our wildlife heritage would do
nothing to reduce gas prices or break our addiction to Persian Gulf
oil.


But if the raid on the Arctic Refuge isn't really about gas prices or
energy security, then what is it about?


It's the symbolism.


The Arctic Refuge represents everything spectacular and everything
endangered about America's natural heritage. It embodies a million
years of ecological serenity . . . a vast stretch of pristine
wilderness . . . an irreplaceable birthing ground for polar bears,
caribou and white wolves.


It is the greatest living reminder that conserving nature in its wild
state is a core American value. It stands for every remnant of
wilderness that we, as a people, have wisely chosen to protect from
the relentless march of bulldozers, chain saws and oil rigs.


And that's why the Bush administration is dead set on destroying it.


By unlocking the Arctic Refuge, they hope to open the door for oil,
gas and coal giants to invade our last and best wild places: our
western canyonlands, our ancient forests, our coastal waters, even our
national monuments.


This is the real agenda behind the raid on the Arctic Refuge and the
entire Bush-Cheney energy plan: to transfer our public estate into
corporate hands so it can be liquidated for a quick buck.


Please go to the NRDC Action Fund website
(http://www.nrdcactionfund.org/redfor...p=2&item=52387)
and tell your senators and representative they have no mandate to
destroy the Arctic Refuge. Then please be sure to forward this message
to as many people as you can.


And thank you for speaking out at this critical time.


Sincerely,


Robert Redford
NRDC Action Fund

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do
so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of
regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well
please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long
that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals.
They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a
grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist
state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same
sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees,
fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete
subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that
walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view
the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate
each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or
Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces
to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr

On misc.survivalism, in
, "Gunner" wrote:


An email forwarded from an old and dear but green as alge
friend

"Dear Friend,

No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge. But President Bush is now claiming a mandate
to do exactly that.

Congressional leaders are pushing for a budget bill that would
turn America's greatest sanctuary for Arctic wildlife into a
vast, polluted oil field. The U.S. Senate has already passed
a budget resolution that would open the Arctic Refuge to oil
drilling.



snip

Funny. I wonder why your friend is not concerned about
all of the other ecosystems/habitats that are being
trashed for the things that he uses every day in his
life.

Does he think that all of the other oil fields are
somehow earth-friendly, just for starters?

AC


--
alanconnor AT earthlink DOT net
Use your real return address or I'll never know you
even tried to mail me. http://tinyurl.com/2t5kp

Let me see... The debate on this ultimately involves a trade-off
between keeping humans healthy and alive here in the US, or keeping
some obscure but endangered species of animal life alive and healthy
for a short time longer in the Arctic Wastelands.

Seem to me that this decision is a 'no-brainer', except for someone
with a seriously distorted sense of values and who has never personally
witnessed unfortunate homeless people sleeping on top of culverts and
under bridges just to keep warm in zero-degree winter weather because
the local shelter has no heat or space for them.

I've seen oil wells in operation for decades everywhere from Long Beach
California to Pennsylvania, but I have yet to see one create any
notable environmental hazard, nor have the thousands of miles of oil
pipeline that we have criss-crossing the US.

How many polar bears, seals and birds does it take to equal one human
life?

Think about it.

Harry C.

On 2 May 2005 16:01:41 -0700, said:

Let me see... The debate on this ultimately involves a trade-off
between keeping humans healthy and alive here in the US, or keeping
some obscure but endangered species of animal life alive and healthy
for a short time longer in the Arctic Wastelands.

Seem to me that this decision is a 'no-brainer', except for someone
with a seriously distorted sense of values and who has never personally
witnessed unfortunate homeless people sleeping on top of culverts and
under bridges just to keep warm in zero-degree winter weather because
the local shelter has no heat or space for them.

I've seen oil wells in operation for decades everywhere from Long Beach
California to Pennsylvania, but I have yet to see one create any
notable environmental hazard, nor have the thousands of miles of oil
pipeline that we have criss-crossing the US.

How many polar bears, seals and birds does it take to equal one human
life?

Think about it.

Harry C.

How does a pipe line or an oil rig kill ?

Truth is they don't. The animals do just fine.

n.

wrote in message
oups.com...
Let me see... The debate on this ultimately involves a trade-off
between keeping humans healthy and alive here in the US, or keeping
some obscure but endangered species of animal life alive and healthy
for a short time longer in the Arctic Wastelands.

Seem to me that this decision is a 'no-brainer', except for someone
with a seriously distorted sense of values and who has never personally
witnessed unfortunate homeless people sleeping on top of culverts and
under bridges just to keep warm in zero-degree winter weather because
the local shelter has no heat or space for them.

I've seen oil wells in operation for decades everywhere from Long Beach
California to Pennsylvania, but I have yet to see one create any
notable environmental hazard, nor have the thousands of miles of oil
pipeline that we have criss-crossing the US.

How many polar bears, seals and birds does it take to equal one human
life?

Think about it.

Forget the d*@ned polar bears. They will all be dead in a few years anyway
at the rate the ice packs are melting.

Think about this. Not one gallon of ANWAR oil is ever going to mean the
difference between life and death for anyone. What it will do is avoid the
automobile makers having to increase average efficiency by about 0.2 mpg,
supply the same amount of gasoline that would be saved if everyone increased
the tire pressure by 1 PSI and give the oil companies something to do with
their money rather than increase refining capacity so they are free to
declare regional shortages and jack up prices whenever they want.

You wingers better face up to the fact that from now on there will never be
enough oil and WalMart is shipping all our money to China so they can out
bid us for what oil there is. This "energy bill" is just a giant give away
to big oil partially financed by cutting research in alternative sources off
at the knees.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

On Mon, 2 May 2005 22:30:32 -0400, "Glenn Ashmore"
said:


wrote in message
roups.com...
Let me see... The debate on this ultimately involves a trade-off
between keeping humans healthy and alive here in the US, or keeping
some obscure but endangered species of animal life alive and healthy
for a short time longer in the Arctic Wastelands.

Seem to me that this decision is a 'no-brainer', except for someone
with a seriously distorted sense of values and who has never personally
witnessed unfortunate homeless people sleeping on top of culverts and
under bridges just to keep warm in zero-degree winter weather because
the local shelter has no heat or space for them.

I've seen oil wells in operation for decades everywhere from Long Beach
California to Pennsylvania, but I have yet to see one create any
notable environmental hazard, nor have the thousands of miles of oil
pipeline that we have criss-crossing the US.

How many polar bears, seals and birds does it take to equal one human
life?

Think about it.

Forget the d*@ned polar bears. They will all be dead in a few years anyway
at the rate the ice packs are melting.

Think about this. Not one gallon of ANWAR oil is ever going to mean the
difference between life and death for anyone. What it will do is avoid the
automobile makers having to increase average efficiency by about 0.2 mpg,
supply the same amount of gasoline that would be saved if everyone increased
the tire pressure by 1 PSI and give the oil companies something to do with
their money rather than increase refining capacity so they are free to
declare regional shortages and jack up prices whenever they want.

You wingers better face up to the fact that from now on there will never be
enough oil and WalMart is shipping all our money to China so they can out
bid us for what oil there is. This "energy bill" is just a giant give away
to big oil partially financed by cutting research in alternative sources off
at the knees.

They (the car makers and Gov) need to make more diesel powered
vehicals avalible in the U.S., but big oil and the EPA won't let them
and it's ****ed up.

n.

North wrote:

[ snip ]

They (the car makers and Gov) need to make more diesel powered
vehicals avalible in the U.S., but big oil and the EPA won't let them
and it's ****ed up.

I've been driving a diesel-powered vehicle for 10 years now, and have seen the
price of Diesel fuel rise from about 20% less than the cheapest regular gasoline
to about 10% more than the mose expensive premium gasoline. Care to try to
explain that?

-jc-

In rec.crafts.metalworking North wrote:
(snip)
They (the car makers and Gov) need to make more diesel powered
vehicals avalible in the U.S., but big oil and the EPA won't let them
and it's ****ed up.

n.

What we need is about another 200 nuclear power plants built with new
modern intrinsically safe designs. Which will let us stop burning so much
coal that is currently putting 2000 tons of uranium and thorium in the
air. Then we can use the excess power generation to crack water to
produce hydrogen to fuel cars and other vehicles.

Net results: Pollution dramatically down, reliance of foregin oil almost
gone.

Could probably be done in 10 years or less and save the country billions
of dollars.

On Mon, 2 May 2005 22:30:32 -0400, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote:

You wingers better face up to the fact that from now on there will never be
enough oil and WalMart is shipping all our money to China so they can out
bid us for what oil there is. This "energy bill" is just a giant give away
to big oil partially financed by cutting research in alternative sources off
at the knees.

--
Glenn Ashmore

http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

Gummer, a lot of your posts just illustrate the fact that you have a 50
caliber mouth and a 22 caliber brain.

Take a look at this link before you start throwing insults.
http://www.cato.org/dailys/04-16-04.html The Cato Institute is not exactly
a hotbed of liberal weenies.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

On misc.survivalism, in et, "Alan Connor" wrote:

snip

hhc314@yahoo...
Tom

Obvious troll aliases.

**** off.

Say anything you want, I couldn't care less.

Won't be reading your posts, nor any responses to them,
anyplace, anytime, anysubject.

Here's your big clue for the decade: As a rule, nobody
that I care to talk to reads your posts either.

If they did, and responded, I wouldn't read those posts either.

AC


--
alanconnor AT earthlink DOT net
Use your real return address or I'll never know you
even tried to mail me. http://tinyurl.com/2t5kp

On misc.survivalism, in et, "Alan Connor" wrote:


On misc.survivalism, in
, "Gunner" wrote:


An email forwarded from an old and dear but green as alge
friend

"Dear Friend,

No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge. But President Bush is now claiming a mandate
to do exactly that.

Congressional leaders are pushing for a budget bill that would
turn America's greatest sanctuary for Arctic wildlife into a
vast, polluted oil field. The U.S. Senate has already passed
a budget resolution that would open the Arctic Refuge to oil
drilling.



snip

Funny. I wonder why your friend is not concerned about
all of the other ecosystems/habitats that are being
trashed for the things that he uses every day in his
life.

Does he think that all of the other oil fields are
somehow earth-friendly, just for starters?

AC


--
alanconnor AT earthlink DOT net
Use your real return address or I'll never know you
even tried to mail me. http://tinyurl.com/2t5kp


23:[hhc314@yahoo]
49:[Glenn Ashmor]
50:[North ]
19:[Todd Rich ]
24:[T.Alan Kraus]
32:[Chuck Sherwo]
17:[Dave Hinz ]
18:[Chuck Sherwo]
32:[Dave Hinz ]
19:[Chuck Sherwo]
28:[Dave Hinz ]
6:[Chuck Sherwo]
9:[Dave Hinz ]
35:[Chuck Sherwo]
74:[Dave Hinz ]
12:[DBM ]
11:[Dave Hinz ]
20:[North ]
29:[DeepDiver ]
38:[North ]
34:[DeepDiver ]


Yap Yap Yap

Hate to tell you this, bozos, but neither myself, nor any other
educated and sane adults, read your posts nor care what you post
or think.

AND (this is your big revelation for the decade) your prattling
doesn't remove my post from the Usenet servers nor the Usenet
Archives at groups.google.com.

The only people worth talking to that read these groups do it
from the Archives and ignore everything you post.

Just like they step over piles of dog **** on the sidewalk when
they are walking.

And then we talk by email and leave you all to live in your
own ****.

Consider getting lives that are worth living.

AC


--
alanconnor AT earthlink DOT net
Use your real return address or I'll never know you
even tried to mail me. http://tinyurl.com/2t5kp

~

On Sat, 07 May 2005 22:01:21 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:

***snip***

Bruce, get back on your meds.You are showing signs of another
meltdown.

Strider

Strider wrote:

On Sat, 07 May 2005 22:01:21 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:

***snip***

Bruce, get back on your meds.You are showing signs of another
meltdown.

Strider


He got bored when Jim wouldnt play his game in alt.christian something
something anymore. So now he's back in here.

Gunner wrote:

No one voted on Election Day to destroy the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge. But President Bush is now claiming a mandate to do exactly
that.


Yes, oil drilling is so very deadly and destructive that one square mile
used for drilling will kill every living thing for thousands of square
miles of the Arctic yet it is somehow is safe to drill in a tropical
paradise. And the wildlife is fragile that just one drop of oil will
kill thousands of animals, yet they are tough enough to survive 40 below
winters. And oil spilled ice somehow just goes everywhere and attacks
everything even when covered up by the next snowfall.

Environmentally is there a lower impact place on the planet to drill?

Stop letting SeeBS tell you what to think. D'uh.

What's your point other than to get us all laughing at your "old and
dear friend"?

ral

Gunner jingoed:

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do
so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of
regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well
please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long
that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals.
They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a
grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist
state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same
sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees,
fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete
subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that
walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view
the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate
each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or
Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces
to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr

"Team America is afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do
so would result in even less self-esteem than they currently have.
Their methodology is to lie about what's really happening in the
hopes of remaining in power, and continue doing whatever they damn
well please. The problem is that they have concealed and obfuscated
for so longmthat, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of
their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed religious fanatics,
all holding on to an illusion of a cowboy on a horse. Some want to
hasten the return of somebody else's messiah, others just prefer the
evil foisted on the Earth by their 'God' and its spokesmen. They wish
to make the Second Amendment the eleventh commandment. I'll give them
that one anyway. Some want sex with temple virgins, others want voting
rights for their slaves and religious icons. Some want Fox 'News' and
subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that
walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American voter in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each
other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel.
The former hate everyone else, and only join forces to support the
international bankers and the God of War." ---unknown

Gio

On Fri, 06 May 2005 07:27:50 -0600, Gio Medici
wrote:

Gunner jingoed:

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do
so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of
regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well
please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long
that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals.
They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a
grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist
state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same
sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees,
fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete
subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that
walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view
the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate
each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or
Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces
to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr

"Team America is afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do
so would result in even less self-esteem than they currently have.
Their methodology is to lie about what's really happening in the
hopes of remaining in power, and continue doing whatever they damn
well please. The problem is that they have concealed and obfuscated
for so longmthat, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of
their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed religious fanatics,
all holding on to an illusion of a cowboy on a horse. Some want to
hasten the return of somebody else's messiah, others just prefer the
evil foisted on the Earth by their 'God' and its spokesmen. They wish
to make the Second Amendment the eleventh commandment. I'll give them
that one anyway. Some want sex with temple virgins, others want voting
rights for their slaves and religious icons. Some want Fox 'News' and
subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that
walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American voter in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each
other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel.
The former hate everyone else, and only join forces to support the
international bankers and the God of War." ---unknown

Gio

The author didnt think enough of his own dreck to put his name on it?

LOL

Gunner

Liberals - Cosmopolitan critics, men who are the friends
of every country save their own. Benjamin Disraeli

Gio Medici wrote:
Gunner jingoed:


" The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces
to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr


"Team America is afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do

Gio, you don't think it's a little weird for the queer activists (their
name, not mine) to walk beside Moslem fundamentalists "in solidarity",
while the Moslems they are marching beside are killing homosexual
Moslems for being homosexual?

Know where the queer Moslems go for sanctuary? Israel. Yet the queer
activists are marching in support of the destruction of Israel?

We can go right on down the line, and pick more pairs of "Leftist"
groups having only a hatred of the "right wing" as their Common Cause.

Offbreed wrote:

Gio, you don't think it's a little weird for the queer activists (their
name, not mine) to walk beside Moslem fundamentalists "in solidarity",
while the Moslems they are marching beside are killing homosexual
Moslems for being homosexual?


Sure it's wierd. Religion is wierd. Chaney and his daughter are wierd.

Know where the queer Moslems go for sanctuary? Israel. Yet the queer
activists are marching in support of the destruction of Israel?

So, why support Israel, enemy to all?

We can go right on down the line, and pick more pairs of "Leftist"
groups having only a hatred of the "right wing" as their Common Cause.

Just like most folks, I think much of the stupid **** foisted on us by
'the left' should stay (legally) behind closed doors. But Rupert
Murdoch, the Right-wing owner of Fox, propagates it

Getting the people to fight over bull**** issues is the goal of the
criminal scum seeking to dominate them.

The goal of politicians, priests, and bankers is to steal your life,
and make you a slave. For eternity, if they only could.

Gio