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"Gideon" wrote in message
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Stormin,

What are you using to heat your home? If your are hooked up to LP
gas or natural gas, then there are conversion kits which will enable
your generator to run off that fuel instead of gasoline.
CY: I'm on NG. However, this isn't totally about one home. Last power cut, I
took the generator to some friends house, and ran their furnace.


There are a few problems with such a conversion:
1) You've got to spend some money ($100 or so) for the conversion parts.
2) Unless you buy a much more expensive conversion, then you can't
easily switch back and forth between gasoline and natural gas.
3) Your engine will produce fewer horsepower, which means fewer watts
being output. Crude estimate - about 10% less power.
CY: A ten percent power cut doesn't bother me all that much. But, spending a
hundred bucks for a conversion does. The "even more expensive" conversion
sounds less desirable.


On the plus side, you'll usually never fear running out of fuel for even a
long term power outage and you don't have the danger of storing large
quantities of gasoline.
CY: I've found the NG to be very dependable, here. So you're right about
less concern about running out of fuel. Of course, it's just a pipe in the
ground. If the fuel company stops pushing NG into the pipe, I'll stop
getting NG out of the pipe.


If the conversion isn't a viable option and I were making the decision,
then I'd just buy a couple of large gasoline containers and store another
15 or 20 gallons of gasoline (with stabilizer added). Rotate your stock
every year or two.
CY: That is very practical answer. This might be the year to build an
outdoor shed.

How many vehicles do you own? If you are concerned
about power outages, then top off your vehicle gas tanks frequently and
have a good gasoline pump available.
CY: Two, and that is a very good thought. I've got a couple of those squeeze
bulb siphons, which aren't all that useful. I had a hand pump, that also
wasn't all that useful.


If you store the gasoline for a long time in plastic containers, then be
aware that the more volatile components of the gasoline will leech through
the plastic during long term storage.
CY: I did not think of htat. Yes, my gas "can" is plastic. A plastic gas
can, to me, is like a plastic knife. It just isn't the same.

Blend old storage gasoline at least
50-50 with new gasoline when rotating stock to your vehicles.
CY: Or pour in a gas "can" every couple weeks into a tank of fuel.

Likewise,
be aware that the generator won't start as easily on gasoline which has
been stored long term in plastic. Have some starting fluid around or
(better yet) keep at least one gallon of gasoline stored in a metal
container.
CY: I'll have to try to find metal gas CANS for when I build my shed.


I've got over twenty gallons of gasoline in storage containers. I've got 4
vehicles, with an average total of at least 50 additional gallons of
gasoline
which can be pumped out if needed during an outage. If I'm really
desperate,
then I've also got a few gallons of assorted gas-oil mixes which can be
blended into the fuel for a generator (about 1 part in 10). Obviously, I'd
prefer to not have oil in the fuel, but a small amount isn't a big problem
if
I'm concerned about a serious power outage.
CY: Well, it runs in the chainsaw.... I'm with you, two stroke mix goes in
the generator if it has to.


With 70 or more gallons of gasoline at my disposal, I can keep one or both
of my generators running for a fair amount of time. Probably longer than
the short life of those cheap Briggs engines in the generators.
CY: Yes, that's for sure. And mine is a cheapo consumer model. The challenge
is to stay out of sight, so your neighbors aren't coming over for a cup of
sugar, and a galon of gas.

Obviously I'm not going to pump all of the gasoline out of my vehicles,
so I can always send somebody out for more gasoline after I've used up
most of the 70 or so gallons.
CY: Right, don't want to be caught without transportation.


Gideon
CY: GReat bunch of thoughts, and I do thank you.

Stormin,

I've got some friends who are a LOT more serious about self-sufficiency and
disaster survival situations than I am. They purchase those large olive drab
Army surplus metal cans for gasoline storage. They have extremely good gaskets
and impervious steel cases. With a bit of Stabil squirted into each can,
you've got some good long-term and spillproof storage. (You see these tall gas
cans strapped to the sides of WWII Jeeps in old movies.)

If you may have to drive out to remote locations with a generator and gas cans,
then I'd consider getting a couple of these rugged storage cans.

I'll check this weekend on where to buy the Army surplus cans and post back
to the newsgroup. My friends have already done the research on lowest cost
on these very standard containers.

I know that 5 gallon plastic cans go on sale periodically for about $4.

Gideon

Hmm. That's an excellent idea. First, however, I oughta build a shed.

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Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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www.mormons.com


"Gideon" wrote in message
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Stormin,

I've got some friends who are a LOT more serious about self-sufficiency and
disaster survival situations than I am. They purchase those large olive
drab
Army surplus metal cans for gasoline storage. They have extremely good
gaskets
and impervious steel cases. With a bit of Stabil squirted into each can,
you've got some good long-term and spillproof storage. (You see these tall
gas
cans strapped to the sides of WWII Jeeps in old movies.)

If you may have to drive out to remote locations with a generator and gas
cans,
then I'd consider getting a couple of these rugged storage cans.

I'll check this weekend on where to buy the Army surplus cans and post back
to the newsgroup. My friends have already done the research on lowest cost
on these very standard containers.

I know that 5 gallon plastic cans go on sale periodically for about $4.

Gideon