Hello:

I am trying to replace a kitchen/outside door that is stuck in locked
position ( I can not open the door, and must use other doors to get in
and out of the house.)

i bought a replacement lock (it has door knob (w/ key slot) on the
outside, and a handle on the inside.) I removed the screws on the inside
and that part comes out easily. Yet, the outside part (the door knob
part) does not come out. Something in the lock mechanism is holding it
in. I can't still open the door. Is there some trick? some latch? How
can i remove this lock so that I may replace it with a newer one?

THanks.

George

Its hung up on the gizmo that has the dealybob that sticks into the
door frame.

Follow the directions that came with the new lock, in reverse.

Matt wrote:
Its hung up on the gizmo that has the dealybob that sticks into the
door frame.

Follow the directions that came with the new lock, in reverse.


I have not been able to find the exact door knob as one that is there
now. For that reason I was hoping to take this off first successfully
before venturing further, even possibly taking this model with me to
find a replacement. How likely is it that the (non-exact) replacement I
have will have all the same mechanisms?

thanks.

george

Try taking the pins out on the hinges and removing the lock off the
door.

ding ding! we have a winner!

randy

"The hooligan" wrote in message
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Try taking the pins out on the hinges and removing the lock off the
door.

Most of the locks I've seen have two screws that must be removed before
the outside part will slide out. These screws go through a plate that
is mounted on the inside. Once these two screws are removed the lock or
should I say door knob will pull out from the outside or the key side.
Sometimes you have to stick a flathead screwdriver onto the striker and
pull it inward toward the center of the lock. This will pull the
striker from the door which should open it. Normally when you pull the
lock out from the outside the striker will remain in the door and two
more screws on the side of the door must be removed. If all this
doesn't make much sense, finding a picture on the web might help.

Joey


Gautam Thaker wrote:

Hello:

I am trying to replace a kitchen/outside door that is stuck in locked
position ( I can not open the door, and must use other doors to get in
and out of the house.)

i bought a replacement lock (it has door knob (w/ key slot) on the
outside, and a handle on the inside.) I removed the screws on the inside
and that part comes out easily. Yet, the outside part (the door knob
part) does not come out. Something in the lock mechanism is holding it
in. I can't still open the door. Is there some trick? some latch? How
can i remove this lock so that I may replace it with a newer one?

THanks.

George

Joey wrote:
Most of the locks I've seen have two screws that must be removed before
the outside part will slide out. These screws go through a plate that
is mounted on the inside. Once these two screws are removed the lock or
should I say door knob will pull out from the outside or the key side.
Sometimes you have to stick a flathead screwdriver onto the striker and
pull it inward toward the center of the lock. This will pull the
striker from the door which should open it. Normally when you pull the
lock out from the outside the striker will remain in the door and two
more screws on the side of the door must be removed. If all this
doesn't make much sense, finding a picture on the web might help.

Joey

I have the inside screws out, and the outside door knob slides out the
first 1/2 inch without trouble, but then gets stuck. Is the "striker"
the piece that moves horizontally and forms the "pin" or "bolt" that
actually forms the lock?

thanks.

george



Gautam Thaker wrote:

Hello:

I am trying to replace a kitchen/outside door that is stuck in locked
position ( I can not open the door, and must use other doors to get in
and out of the house.)

i bought a replacement lock (it has door knob (w/ key slot) on the
outside, and a handle on the inside.) I removed the screws on the
inside and that part comes out easily. Yet, the outside part (the door
knob part) does not come out. Something in the lock mechanism is
holding it in. I can't still open the door. Is there some trick? some
latch? How can i remove this lock so that I may replace it with a
newer one?

THanks.

George

Yes, the part you see that comes out from the edge of the door is the
striker. When the lock is working right turning it pulls the striker
inward toward the middle which opens the door. Usually there are two
parts to the inward part of the striker. One is the main door latch and
the other is the part that prevents using a credit card to open the door
without a key. Using a screwdriver or two or needlenose plies to pull
the center of the stricker inward toward the center will open the
lock/door. You might have to pull hard on this since it might be bent
by now.

This site below has the closest pic I could find of what you need to
pull on. This pic is a deadbolt but yours should like similiar.

http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=howT.../rightNavHowTo

Look for the 'latch bolt sliding into place'. You'll see part of the
center that pulls inward to open the door. I know this pic is not the
best example but hope it helps.



Gautam Thaker wrote:

Joey wrote:

Most of the locks I've seen have two screws that must be removed
before the outside part will slide out. These screws go through a
plate that is mounted on the inside. Once these two screws are
removed the lock or should I say door knob will pull out from the
outside or the key side.
Sometimes you have to stick a flathead screwdriver onto the striker
and pull it inward toward the center of the lock. This will pull the
striker from the door which should open it. Normally when you pull
the lock out from the outside the striker will remain in the door and
two more screws on the side of the door must be removed. If all this
doesn't make much sense, finding a picture on the web might help.

Joey


I have the inside screws out, and the outside door knob slides out the
first 1/2 inch without trouble, but then gets stuck. Is the "striker"
the piece that moves horizontally and forms the "pin" or "bolt" that
actually forms the lock?

thanks.

george



Gautam Thaker wrote:

Hello:

I am trying to replace a kitchen/outside door that is stuck in locked
position ( I can not open the door, and must use other doors to get
in and out of the house.)

i bought a replacement lock (it has door knob (w/ key slot) on the
outside, and a handle on the inside.) I removed the screws on the
inside and that part comes out easily. Yet, the outside part (the
door knob part) does not come out. Something in the lock mechanism is
holding it in. I can't still open the door. Is there some trick? some
latch? How can i remove this lock so that I may replace it with a
newer one?

THanks.

George

"Gautam Thaker" wrote in message
...

I have the inside screws out, and the outside door knob slides out the
first 1/2 inch without trouble, but then gets stuck. Is the "striker"
the piece that moves horizontally and forms the "pin" or "bolt" that
actually forms the lock?

Did you remove the circlip under the cover thingie that you took the screws
out of?

The part that pops into the door frame slides _INTO_ the doorknob assembly.
That is why you can't pull it out with out first removing the throw. That
being said, you have to get to the edge of the door some other way. Maybe
you can use a butter knife in the slot where the inside door knob goes and
twist it to work the in-out thingie.

Subject: can not remove 1/2 of an exterior door lock...
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= Gautam Thaker = wrote:

I removed the screws on the inside
and that part comes out easily. Yet, the outside part (the door knob
part) does not come out. Something in the lock mechanism is holding it
in. I can't still open the door. Is there some trick? some latch? How
can i remove this lock so that I may replace it with a newer one?


It's probably hung up on paint (on the outside). From the inside tap a
screwdriver in the tip of the spindle (I think that's what it's called). Should
just be able to pop the outside part into the back yard. Then you can fiddle
with the bolt to get the door open.



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-Graham

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G. Morgan wrote:
Subject: can not remove 1/2 of an exterior door lock...
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= Gautam Thaker = wrote:


I removed the screws on the inside
and that part comes out easily. Yet, the outside part (the door knob
part) does not come out. Something in the lock mechanism is holding it
in. I can't still open the door. Is there some trick? some latch? How
can i remove this lock so that I may replace it with a newer one?



It's probably hung up on paint (on the outside). From the inside tap a
screwdriver in the tip of the spindle (I think that's what it's called). Should
just be able to pop the outside part into the back yard. Then you can fiddle
with the bolt to get the door open.

Dear Mr. Morgan:

Since I removed the 2 inside screws the our side door know is lose, it
comes out partially (no sticking due to any point). It slides about 1/2
inch or so out and get stuck, as if something is holding the exterior
part from being pulled apart.

I can't remove the door from the hinges easily as the door as some heavy
duty, spring load hinges.

George.

Subject: can not remove 1/2 of an exterior door lock...
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair
= Gautam Thaker = wrote:

Since I removed the 2 inside screws the our side door know is lose, it
comes out partially (no sticking due to any point). It slides about 1/2
inch or so out and get stuck, as if something is holding the exterior
part from being pulled apart.

I can't remove the door from the hinges easily as the door as some heavy
duty, spring load hinges.


Hi George,

Since have you tried to forcibly hammer it out? Since the lock is trash now
anyway, it's worth a shot.

You might also try posting your question on 'alt.locksmithing'.

Good luck,


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-Graham

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"Gautam Thaker" wrote in message
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Hello:

I am trying to replace a kitchen/outside door that is stuck in locked
position ( I can not open the door, and must use other doors to get in
and out of the house.)

i bought a replacement lock (it has door knob (w/ key slot) on the
outside, and a handle on the inside.) I removed the screws on the inside
and that part comes out easily. Yet, the outside part (the door knob
part) does not come out. Something in the lock mechanism is holding it
in. I can't still open the door. Is there some trick? some latch? How
can i remove this lock so that I may replace it with a newer one?

THanks.

George


Think what this poster was trying to say

"Its hung up on the gizmo that has the dealybob that sticks into the
door frame."

Is that you need to remove the parts you can from the door. Most likely the
mechanism that retracts the bolt has malfunctioned. I have seen this happen
several times. You can use a screwdriver to manually move the bolt once you
slide aside or break off the broken part. Generally this requires a CCW turn
of the mechanism.

Once you can open the door you are ready to install the new lock. This is
the easy part.


Colbyt

"Gautam Thaker" wrote in message
...
Hello:

I am trying to replace a kitchen/outside door that is stuck in locked
position ( I can not open the door, and must use other doors to get in and
out of the house.)

i bought a replacement lock (it has door knob (w/ key slot) on the
outside, and a handle on the inside.) I removed the screws on the inside
and that part comes out easily. Yet, the outside part (the door knob part)
does not come out. Something in the lock mechanism is holding it in. I
can't still open the door. Is there some trick? some latch? How can i
remove this lock so that I may replace it with a newer one?

If the latch was in the locked position when you removed the interior knob
the latch is what's holding the exterior knob in place.

From the inside look into the knob hole. You should see a slim bar
horizontally bisecting the knob hole at latch level. That slim bar should
have a hole in it in line with the lock keyway. The hole should have one
or two detente points. Put a screwdriver blade (flat) into the detentes and
turn away from the latch to unlock.

Best,

Marc