I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side with
the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage depth
one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is
22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the
inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During the
planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted make
it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!! But I
guess I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I kept
watching the jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over.

"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with
the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage
depth
one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is
22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the
inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During
the
planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted
make
it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!! But
I
guess I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I kept
watching the jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over.



Sue him in small claims court for damages. $3000 would take the sting out
of it for me.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:41:36 -0800, "Bob" wrote:

I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side with
the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage depth
one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is
22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the
inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During the
planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted make
it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!! But I
guess I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I kept
watching the jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over.


You have to watch them every step of the way. I made specific
arrangements on my house for them to leave 11 feet on one side. After
they dug the foundation I went over and measured and it was only 9
feet. No reason for it other then their stupidity. Got them to swap
the AC (ground mounted) location to the other side of the house to
unclutter the area so I'd still have decent drive thru clearance.
They also put one of the hose bibs on the wrong side of the house so I
get a free hose bib out of the deal when they made that right. They
skim on concrete strength and thickness on the driveway - at least 25%
of the homes have significant driveway cracks as a result. They had
to replace one of my slabs before we even moved in it was so bad.
It's all just blow and go.
--
Elbridge Gerry, of Massachusetts:

"What, sir, is the use of militia? It is to prevent the
establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. . .
Whenever Government means to invade the rights and liberties of
the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order
to raise a standing army upon its ruins." -- Debate, U.S. House
of Representatives, August 17, 1789

"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side with
the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage depth
one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is 22x22). I
have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the inside. My
extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During the
planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted make it
1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!! But I guess
I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I kept watching the
jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over.

This is Turtle.

Most all contractor bid jobs by the amount of square feet of the house. You take
the 1 foot wide area by the 22 feet long and you get the house being shorted by
22 sq. ft. . If the contractor bid the house at say $60.00 a square foot. Deduct
22 X $60.00 = $1,320.00 . You can get the valve of the shortage by deviding the
price of the bid by the sq. ft. of the house and get the square feet verses the
cost of the square feet. Like 2000 sq. ft. house and cost $100K will give you
$50.00 a Square foot. $50.00 X 22 feet = $1,100.00 .

Your house is 22 sq. ft. smaller than it should have been.

TURTLE

Do you believe heated sq. ft are estimated the same as unheated?!
This is a garage.


"TURTLE" wrote in message
...

"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the
garage depth one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but
now it is 22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer
along the inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very
tightly. During the planning/contracting I specifically told him I want
23x22 because of my extended car and it is marked on the floor plan
drawing. WTF he wanted make it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the
cost by cutting that 1'!!! But I guess I don't have much to do with it,
house is nearly completed. I kept watching the jobsite from time to time
but it still screwed me over.

This is Turtle.

Most all contractor bid jobs by the amount of square feet of the house.
You take the 1 foot wide area by the 22 feet long and you get the house
being shorted by 22 sq. ft. . If the contractor bid the house at say
$60.00 a square foot. Deduct 22 X $60.00 = $1,320.00 . You can get the
valve of the shortage by deviding the price of the bid by the sq. ft. of
the house and get the square feet verses the cost of the square feet. Like
2000 sq. ft. house and cost $100K will give you $50.00 a Square foot.
$50.00 X 22 feet = $1,100.00 .

Your house is 22 sq. ft. smaller than it should have been.

TURTLE

"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage
depth one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is
22x22).

Can I assume you also check the 22' width? I'm just wondering of you are
talking inside dimensions and he is talking outside? If not, you got
screwed. You should be able to recover something.

"TURTLE" wrote in message

Most all contractor bid jobs by the amount of square feet of the house.
You take the 1 foot wide area by the 22 feet long and you get the house
being shorted by 22 sq. ft. . If the contractor bid the house at say
$60.00 a square foot. Deduct 22 X $60.00 = $1,320.00 . You can get the
valve of the shortage by deviding the price of the bid by the sq. ft. of
the house and get the square feet verses the cost of the square feet. Like
2000 sq. ft. house and cost $100K will give you $50.00 a Square foot.
$50.00 X 22 feet = $1,100.00 .

Your house is 22 sq. ft. smaller than it should have been.

TURTLE

That is a poor way to buy a house. The kitchen may work out to $250 a
square foot, the garage that is little more than a shell can be $15. I
don't want the builder to decide where the money should be apportioned.

Tell the builder to add a utility room behind the garage and move the
utilities there.


"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage
depth one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is
22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the
inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During
the planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted make
it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!! But
I guess I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I kept
watching the jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over.

If the house is brick you easily lose 8 or more inches.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
m...

"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the
garage depth one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but
now it is 22x22).

Can I assume you also check the 22' width? I'm just wondering of you are
talking inside dimensions and he is talking outside? If not, you got
screwed. You should be able to recover something.

Builders usually talk "outside dimension", as do tax collectors. Homeowners
think inside dimension.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
m...

"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the
garage depth one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but
now it is 22x22).

Can I assume you also check the 22' width? I'm just wondering of you are
talking inside dimensions and he is talking outside? If not, you got
screwed. You should be able to recover something.

It was explained to me, by several realtors, that square footage is measured
from the outside of the house. If the house is a block home, like here in
the Florida, the difference could be substantial......Ross my .02!

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
m...

"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the
garage depth one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but
now it is 22x22).

Can I assume you also check the 22' width? I'm just wondering of you are
talking inside dimensions and he is talking outside? If not, you got
screwed. You should be able to recover something.

It was explained to me, by several realtors, that square footage is measured
from the outside of the house. If the house is a block home, like here in
the Florida, the difference could be substantial......Ross my .02!

Thanks for all the replies.

I know the sizes include the walls. On the drawing, the overall outside
sizes of the foundation walls, as well as individual sections sizes, are
marked. The overall width of the foundation is 54'. The depth on the side
with two small bedrooms is 32'. The side with garage is 43'. The 54' and 32'
are right on. But the garage side is only 42' so I went in and measured
inside. It turned out all the heated spaces are all right, just as shown on
the plan. But the garage is 1' short. The spec size 23x22 includes walls I
know it. 22 is right (measurement includes walls). The inside depth should
be a bit less than 22', taking 2x6 studs walls and 5/8 sheetrock (garage is
fully sheetrocked by 5/8 and insulated - but not heated). But the actual
inside depth is a bit less than 21'. So I know it is the garage that is
short of 1'.

At this point I don't think any change to the house is practical. Probably
the only thing I can do is to ask for some credit for that mistake (I still
don't think the builder did this intentionally as I know this won't save him
a lot - only needs one more 2x6 stud on each side, and overall I think he
did a decent job on other stuff). I don't plan to take advantage of this and
demand $$$ or ask him to do outragous things - I would be mad if my current
car does not fit at all. But I don't feel comfortable just swallowing it.

I am trying find what to ask when I bring this up to the builder. This
builder quoted just the total so I don't know his cost for the garage. I had
bid from another builder for the same plan (back in summer) that quoted
separately with $12,000 for the 23x22. If I take this figure the garage
turns out $23.70 per sqft. 22 sf would be $520 (maybe a little more because
the other bidder's quote is for the spec with sheetrock only on the walls
adjoining living space, no insulation). Do you guys think this is the right
amount to ask for compenstation?

I do like the house and want it. I don't want to bust the deal. The local
house price has gone up a bit during the course of construction. If the
builder sells the house to someone else he may be able to get a few
thousands more out of it. We do have the pre-sold new construction contract
(this is legally binding) but I am not sure when I demand the compensation
and he is unwilling what will happen. Can he refuse to sell it to me?

Thanks again. Bob


"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage
depth one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is
22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the
inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During
the planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted make
it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!! But
I guess I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I kept
watching the jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over.

"Bob" wrote in message
I am trying find what to ask when I bring this up to the builder. This
builder quoted just the total so I don't know his cost for the garage. I
had bid from another builder for the same plan (back in summer) that
quoted separately with $12,000 for the 23x22. If I take this figure the
garage turns out $23.70 per sqft. 22 sf would be $520 (maybe a little more
because the other bidder's quote is for the spec with sheetrock only on
the walls adjoining living space, no insulation). Do you guys think this
is the right amount to ask for compenstation?

I do like the house and want it. I don't want to bust the deal.

I'd start out with a polite question of "how did the garage come up a foot
short?"


He should then take out his tape measure and verify the error. Assuming he
agrees, point out the original plans, acknowledge that it is a difficult
(and very expensive) problem to fix and offer to work with him for some
compensation. At that point you can ask for some upgrade in another area.
Additional walkway? Landscaping? Finishing in the basement? Rather than a
cash settlement it would probably work to the benefit of both of you to
agree on and alternative method.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/

"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage
depth one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is
22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the
inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During
the planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted make
it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!! But
I guess I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I kept
watching the jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over. "

Take some of the responsibility yourself!
You use the typical I-am-a-total-helpless-victim terms such as "hate such
builders" and "screwed me over" , "to my surprise", and "I specifically
told him" . You further assume, likely incorrectly, that he "meant to"
screw you over.
The lesson is this. First, he has responsibility to follow plans, and this
sounds like a verbal side agreement, which rarely stands up in claims court,
if it not on paper. Secondly, there was possibly no swindle intent, likely
just tape measure dyslexia, or absent minded error, both of which are
common. Further, when we contract a home, I consider it my duty and
responsibility as owner and de facto uber-supervisor to take the few minutes
per room to actually measure, the day the foundation forms are up, or later,
when the interior room 2x4 plates are nailed down, to check the measurements
against any written agreement or plans. "Catching him" at the very end of
the process is unfair to him and you as well. Such mistakes are easily
rectified if you measure as you go, at the appropriate time of construction.
Was the foundation already there when you made this agreement? If so, there
may have been no option to move the wall further back.
If you

Before you ask for compensation, read your contract. there is a plus/minus in
there. Your compensation is after that is all taken into effect..

From: "Roger T."


"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage
depth one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is
22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the
inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During
the planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted make
it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!! But
I guess I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I kept
watching the jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over. "

Take some of the responsibility yourself!
You use the typical I-am-a-total-helpless-victim terms such as "hate such
builders" and "screwed me over" , "to my surprise", and "I specifically
told him" . You further assume, likely incorrectly, that he "meant to"
screw you over.
The lesson is this. First, he has responsibility to follow plans, and this
sounds like a verbal side agreement, which rarely stands up in claims court,
if it not on paper. Secondly, there was possibly no swindle intent, likely
just tape measure dyslexia, or absent minded error, both of which are
common. Further, when we contract a home, I consider it my duty and
responsibility as owner and de facto uber-supervisor to take the few minutes
per room to actually measure, the day the foundation forms are up, or later,
when the interior room 2x4 plates are nailed down, to check the measurements
against any written agreement or plans. "Catching him" at the very end of
the process is unfair to him and you as well. Such mistakes are easily
rectified if you measure as you go, at the appropriate time of construction.
Was the foundation already there when you made this agreement? If so, there
may have been no option to move the wall further back.
If you


I have to agree with this 100%.

"curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
Do you believe heated sq. ft are estimated the same as unheated?!
This is a garage.



This is Turtle.

No i don't know exactly and don't have housing contractor wrote on my shirt, but
i was give him a yard stick to estimate a cost of the short fall and just giving
him a '' ideal '' to where to start estimating the short fall.

Now I'm a HVAC contractor and if i put a 2.5 ton cooling system in your house
and the contract called for a 3 ton cooling system. Would you tell me to forget
about it because you was a nice guy and did not want to upset me?

TURTLE

I next. Roger can go home and sleep.
"HaHaHa" wrote in message
...

I have to agree with this 100%.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:41:36 -0800, "Bob" wrote:

I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side with
the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage depth
one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is
22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the
inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During the
planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted make
it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!! But I
guess I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I kept
watching the jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over.

Yeah, bummer. Guess you won't be closing and taking occupancy now,
huh?

Jeff

"Roger T." wrote in message
...

"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the
garage
depth one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it
is
22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the
inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During
the planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of
my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted
make
it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!!
But
I guess I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I
kept
watching the jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over. "

Take some of the responsibility yourself!
You use the typical I-am-a-total-helpless-victim terms such as "hate such
builders" and "screwed me over" , "to my surprise", and "I specifically
told him" . You further assume, likely incorrectly, that he "meant to"
screw you over.
The lesson is this. First, he has responsibility to follow plans, and this
sounds like a verbal side agreement, which rarely stands up in claims
court,
if it not on paper. Secondly, there was possibly no swindle intent,
likely
just tape measure dyslexia, or absent minded error, both of which are
common. Further, when we contract a home, I consider it my duty and
responsibility as owner and de facto uber-supervisor to take the few
minutes
per room to actually measure, the day the foundation forms are up, or
later,
when the interior room 2x4 plates are nailed down, to check the
measurements
against any written agreement or plans. "Catching him" at the very end of
the process is unfair to him and you as well. Such mistakes are easily
rectified if you measure as you go, at the appropriate time of
construction.
Was the foundation already there when you made this agreement? If so,
there
may have been no option to move the wall further back.
If you


I'm sure we'll all agree that it would have been good for the buyer to check
the dimensions, but the _builder_ made the garage a foot short -- that's the
bottom line. It's the _builder's_ responsibility to make the f##$*ng thing
right! Does this buyer need to crawl and swing from the ceiling joists as
they go up to make sure they are correct also?

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:26:00 -0800, "Roger T."
wrote:


"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage
depth one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is
22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the
inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During
the planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted make
it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!! But
I guess I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I kept
watching the jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over. "

Take some of the responsibility yourself!
You use the typical I-am-a-total-helpless-victim terms such as "hate such
builders" and "screwed me over" , "to my surprise", and "I specifically
told him" . You further assume, likely incorrectly, that he "meant to"
screw you over.
The lesson is this. First, he has responsibility to follow plans, and this
sounds like a verbal side agreement, which rarely stands up in claims court,
if it not on paper. Secondly, there was possibly no swindle intent, likely
just tape measure dyslexia, or absent minded error, both of which are
common. Further, when we contract a home, I consider it my duty and
responsibility as owner and de facto uber-supervisor to take the few minutes
per room to actually measure, the day the foundation forms are up, or later,
when the interior room 2x4 plates are nailed down, to check the measurements
against any written agreement or plans. "Catching him" at the very end of
the process is unfair to him and you as well. Such mistakes are easily
rectified if you measure as you go, at the appropriate time of construction.
Was the foundation already there when you made this agreement? If so, there
may have been no option to move the wall further back.
If you



Read your contract. You have rights.

"Bob" wrote in message ...
I have the new home about to close (in about a week or two). Today I did
measurements of the house. To my surprise the overall depth on the side
with
the garage is one foot short. It turns out the builder made the garage
depth
one foot less than the plan/spec (23' depth x 22' width but now it is
22x22). I have the furnace, water heater and a chest freezer along the
inside. My extended size vehicle will still fit but very tightly. During
the
planning/contracting I specifically told him I want 23x22 because of my
extended car and it is marked on the floor plan drawing. WTF he wanted
make
it 1' less!!! How much he would save on the cost by cutting that 1'!!! But
I
guess I don't have much to do with it, house is nearly completed. I kept
watching the jobsite from time to time but it still screwed me over.


Is the garage connected to the house from an inside door? With that extra
foot you could walk around your vehicle to get something with out going
outside. I think I would be really pist about it. Can they bump the door out
maybe?

This is just another example of the tragedy that could be averted if
the US would get with the program and switch to the metric system.

"Matt" wrote in message
ups.com...
This is just another example of the tragedy that could be averted if
the US would get with the program and switch to the metric system.


Yes, instead of being a foot short, it would be 304 cm short.

While I'm all for the metric system, I don't see how this would have
averted the error. Can you explain this?

If I take this figurethe garage
turns out $23.70 per sqft. 22 sf would be $520 (maybe a little more
because
the other bidder's quote is for the spec with sheetrock onlyon the
walls
adjoining living space, no insulation). Do you guys think this is the
right
amount to ask for compenstation?

That's the bare-bones minimum, assuming the legalese of the contract
allows any consideration.

At the maximum, you may be able to demand "specific performance" of
tearing down the wall and rebuilding to meet the contract.
It all depends on what the contract actually says.

Tim.

If I take this figurethe garage
turns out $23.70 per sqft. 22 sf would be $520 (maybe a little more
because
the other bidder's quote is for the spec with sheetrock onlyon the
walls
adjoining living space, no insulation). Do you guys think this is the
right
amount to ask for compenstation?

That's the bare-bones minimum, assuming the legalese of the contract
allows any consideration.

At the maximum, you may be able to demand "specific performance" of
tearing down the wall and rebuilding to meet the contract.
It all depends on what the contract actually says.

Tim.

Well shore I can, partner!

Pretend you are a home builder. Now, someone comes to you and says: I
want my garage to be 23 feet deep. So you build the house, and screw up
and make the garage 22 feet deep. OOOOOPS!

Now, pretend you are a different builder, and the buyer asks you to
build his garage 8 meters deep. Now you build the house, and because
you are making the garage 8 meters deep, instead of 23 feet - it gets
built properly. HOORAY!

"Matt" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well shore I can, partner!

Pretend you are a home builder. Now, someone comes to you and says: I
want my garage to be 23 feet deep. So you build the house, and screw up
and make the garage 22 feet deep. OOOOOPS!

Now, pretend you are a different builder, and the buyer asks you to
build his garage 8 meters deep. Now you build the house, and because
you are making the garage 8 meters deep, instead of 23 feet - it gets
built properly. HOORAY!


Maybe, but I do work with metric and I do prefer to use it. I still see
errors made. I've seen 12 mm holes where they should be 13mm What is to
say it would not have been built 7 meters or 7.5 meters? Or 9 meters.
People that do not read in English do not read in other languages also.