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I just visited my mechanic yesterday and had a chat with him. Again, I
noticed a device he has which is a pressurized tank that he uses as a
sort of custom aerosol. He can fill it part way with some solution and
pressurize it up to over 100 PSI and spray from it. I guess it is about
1/2 gallon capacity. It's shaped like a fat version of those small
propane tanks.

I've looked for something like this in vain at my local auto parts store
- Kragen. My mechanic tells me he bought it from a Wurth distributor who
used to visit his shop every month or so. He tells me that he thinks
that Kent may also distribute or make one. He figures he paid around $50
for his.

I want this as a sort of high performance cleaning tool. They were
recommended to me as such. I have the Dust Off stuff they sell at
Costco, but the pressure's pretty weak out of those. I figure I can use
my tire inflator to pump 100 PSI into it, if I can get one. Does anyone
know a good place where I can pick up one of these? I live in Berkeley,
CA. Thanks!

Dan
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Check out http://www.mcmaster.com/ they have all sorts of stuff use
sprayer for the search.

Wayne

"Dan_Musicant" wrote in message
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I just visited my mechanic yesterday and had a chat with him. Again, I
noticed a device he has which is a pressurized tank that he uses as a
sort of custom aerosol. He can fill it part way with some solution and
pressurize it up to over 100 PSI and spray from it. I guess it is about
1/2 gallon capacity. It's shaped like a fat version of those small
propane tanks.

I've looked for something like this in vain at my local auto parts store
- Kragen. My mechanic tells me he bought it from a Wurth distributor who
used to visit his shop every month or so. He tells me that he thinks
that Kent may also distribute or make one. He figures he paid around $50
for his.

I want this as a sort of high performance cleaning tool. They were
recommended to me as such. I have the Dust Off stuff they sell at
Costco, but the pressure's pretty weak out of those. I figure I can use
my tire inflator to pump 100 PSI into it, if I can get one. Does anyone
know a good place where I can pick up one of these? I live in Berkeley,
CA. Thanks!

Dan



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try a tire.. pump it up and you got a small tank.

randy

"Dan_Musicant" wrote in message
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I just visited my mechanic yesterday and had a chat with him. Again, I
noticed a device he has which is a pressurized tank that he uses as a
sort of custom aerosol. He can fill it part way with some solution and
pressurize it up to over 100 PSI and spray from it. I guess it is about
1/2 gallon capacity. It's shaped like a fat version of those small
propane tanks.

I've looked for something like this in vain at my local auto parts store
- Kragen. My mechanic tells me he bought it from a Wurth distributor who
used to visit his shop every month or so. He tells me that he thinks
that Kent may also distribute or make one. He figures he paid around $50
for his.

I want this as a sort of high performance cleaning tool. They were
recommended to me as such. I have the Dust Off stuff they sell at
Costco, but the pressure's pretty weak out of those. I figure I can use
my tire inflator to pump 100 PSI into it, if I can get one. Does anyone
know a good place where I can pick up one of these? I live in Berkeley,
CA. Thanks!

Dan



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"Dan_Musicant" wrote in message
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I just visited my mechanic yesterday and had a chat with him. Again, I
noticed a device he has which is a pressurized tank that he uses as a
sort of custom aerosol. He can fill it part way with some solution and
pressurize it up to over 100 PSI and spray from it. I guess it is about
1/2 gallon capacity. It's shaped like a fat version of those small
propane tanks.

I've looked for something like this in vain at my local auto parts store
- Kragen. My mechanic tells me he bought it from a Wurth distributor who
used to visit his shop every month or so. He tells me that he thinks
that Kent may also distribute or make one. He figures he paid around $50
for his.

I want this as a sort of high performance cleaning tool. They were
recommended to me as such. I have the Dust Off stuff they sell at
Costco, but the pressure's pretty weak out of those. I figure I can use
my tire inflator to pump 100 PSI into it, if I can get one. Does anyone
know a good place where I can pick up one of these? I live in Berkeley,
CA. Thanks!

Dan


Harbor Freight sells them.


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xrongor wrote:
try a tire.. pump it up and you got a small tank.

randy

....
Randy, soon's you get a tire pumped to 100+ psi, let us know, OK?
Report in each time you reinflate it, please; we'll consider
sending flowers.

Pop




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Dan_Musicant wrote:
I want this as a sort of high performance cleaning tool. They were
recommended to me as such. I have the Dust Off stuff they sell at
Costco, but the pressure's pretty weak out of those. I figure I can use
my tire inflator to pump 100 PSI into it, if I can get one. Does anyone
know a good place where I can pick up one of these? I live in Berkeley,
CA. Thanks!


Harbor freight part number 01102-3BPA for $9.99
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"Pop" wrote in message
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xrongor wrote:
try a tire.. pump it up and you got a small tank.

randy

...
Randy, soon's you get a tire pumped to 100+ psi, let us know, OK?
Report in each time you reinflate it, please; we'll consider
sending flowers.

Pop


you dont need 100psi to blow off some dust..
you dont need to use a car tire...

you do need to use your head though..

randy


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all auto parts stores here have 5gal carry tanks, 125psi max for about $25
then you'd unscrew the tire inflator end and add a hose end spray nozzle
for five bucks or more.
They also have bigger ones 10gal maybe $35 15gal stand up on hand truck
wheels $49
even the one dollar bargain store here has a bunch of them.

"Dan_Musicant" wrote in message
...
I just visited my mechanic yesterday and had a chat with him. Again, I
noticed a device he has which is a pressurized tank that he uses as a
sort of custom aerosol. He can fill it part way with some solution and
pressurize it up to over 100 PSI and spray from it. I guess it is about
1/2 gallon capacity. It's shaped like a fat version of those small
propane tanks.

I've looked for something like this in vain at my local auto parts store
- Kragen. My mechanic tells me he bought it from a Wurth distributor who
used to visit his shop every month or so. He tells me that he thinks
that Kent may also distribute or make one. He figures he paid around $50
for his.

I want this as a sort of high performance cleaning tool. They were
recommended to me as such. I have the Dust Off stuff they sell at
Costco, but the pressure's pretty weak out of those. I figure I can use
my tire inflator to pump 100 PSI into it, if I can get one. Does anyone
know a good place where I can pick up one of these? I live in Berkeley,
CA. Thanks!

Dan



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John Hines wrote:
Dan_Musicant wrote:
I want this as a sort of high performance cleaning tool. They were
recommended to me as such. I have the Dust Off stuff they sell at
Costco, but the pressure's pretty weak out of those. I figure I can
use my tire inflator to pump 100 PSI into it, if I can get one. Does
anyone know a good place where I can pick up one of these? I live in
Berkeley, CA. Thanks!


Harbor freight part number 01102-3BPA for $9.99


Now $4.99

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...unction=Search


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i use a plastic pump up w/ tank type , mine has an adapter on the tank for
connecting a garden hose to fill w. Inside that fitting is a check valve, i use
mey compressors' blow gun and fill so i don't need to pump.


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Ohh ya, only costs around 25-30.00
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Whew, that sounds like very dangerous advice to me - a tyre blowing out with
a 100lb/in or pressure is a very lethal weapon - a guy was killed a while
back when a tyre let go wiht no where near that amount of pressure.

David - who is horrified that someone would actually suggest something so
dangerous

xrongor wrote:

try a tire.. pump it up and you got a small tank.


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"Pop" wrote in message
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xrongor wrote:
try a tire.. pump it up and you got a small tank.

randy

...
Randy, soon's you get a tire pumped to 100+ psi, let us know, OK?
Report in each time you reinflate it, please; we'll consider
sending flowers.


Truck tires are customarily inflated to 100 psi . . .
-Tock


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WalMart and most auto parts shops sell 5 gallon steel tanks intended to hold
about 100 psi . . . you fill 'em up at the gas station, then when your car
tire needs air, you use the attached hose to fill it up . . . Probably cost
ya $25 or so.

Evidently paintball guns use a 3000 psi nitrogen filled tank, I'll bet your
acquaintance is using something like that. To refill, all ya need is a few
ounces of liquid nitrogen . . .

Do a search on eBay for AIR TANK and you'll see lots of possible options . .
..

-Tock


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"Tock" wrote in message
m...

"Pop" wrote in message
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xrongor wrote:
try a tire.. pump it up and you got a small tank.

randy

...
Randy, soon's you get a tire pumped to 100+ psi, let us know, OK?
Report in each time you reinflate it, please; we'll consider
sending flowers.


Truck tires are customarily inflated to 100 psi . . .


dont bother. some people are here just to find 'flaws' in the ideas of
others and have no interest in facts.

randy




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sigh.

a) lo and behold, some tires are actually rated for 100psi. find a source
for these tires to prove it to yourself.
b) who said you need 100 psi to make a glorified can of air for blowing
dust? specifically when did i say it?
c) lets see your cite for this exploding tire.

randy

"quietguy" wrote in message
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Whew, that sounds like very dangerous advice to me - a tyre blowing out
with
a 100lb/in or pressure is a very lethal weapon - a guy was killed a while
back when a tyre let go wiht no where near that amount of pressure.

David - who is horrified that someone would actually suggest something so
dangerous

xrongor wrote:

try a tire.. pump it up and you got a small tank.




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xrongor wrote:

sigh.

....
c) lets see your cite for this exploding tire.


Chill...while he shewed lack of knowldege, tires do burst rather more
frequently than one might hope...that's why truck tires are remounted in
the heavy cages...to capture potential shrapnel...

It was really much worse in the days of old split rims, but that wasn't
so much the tire exploding as the locking ring not holding...
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On 12/31/2004 9:35 AM US(ET), Duane Bozarth took fingers to keys, and
typed the following:

xrongor wrote:


sigh.


...


c) lets see your cite for this exploding tire.



Chill...while he shewed lack of knowldege, tires do burst rather more
frequently than one might hope...that's why truck tires are remounted in
the heavy cages...to capture potential shrapnel...

It was really much worse in the days of old split rims, but that wasn't
so much the tire exploding as the locking ring not holding...


I was a truck mechanic for a short while back in the late 50s. One of my
least favorite jobs was changing a split ring truck tire. I would place
the wheel on a work bench and then inflate it while I ducked down next
to the workbench with only my one hand, holding the inflater, above the
tire. Fortunately, I never had one blow off, but I only did a few of them.

--
Bill
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:27:38 -0700, "SQLit" wrote:

:
:"Dan_Musicant" wrote in message
.. .
: I just visited my mechanic yesterday and had a chat with him. Again, I
: noticed a device he has which is a pressurized tank that he uses as a
: sort of custom aerosol. He can fill it part way with some solution and
: pressurize it up to over 100 PSI and spray from it. I guess it is about
: 1/2 gallon capacity. It's shaped like a fat version of those small
: propane tanks.
:
: I've looked for something like this in vain at my local auto parts store
: - Kragen. My mechanic tells me he bought it from a Wurth distributor who
: used to visit his shop every month or so. He tells me that he thinks
: that Kent may also distribute or make one. He figures he paid around $50
: for his.
:
: I want this as a sort of high performance cleaning tool. They were
: recommended to me as such. I have the Dust Off stuff they sell at
: Costco, but the pressure's pretty weak out of those. I figure I can use
: my tire inflator to pump 100 PSI into it, if I can get one. Does anyone
: know a good place where I can pick up one of these? I live in Berkeley,
: CA. Thanks!
:
: Dan
:
:Harbor Freight sells them.
:
Yeah! That's it! I actually first heard of this from a guy at a machine
shop who fixed an old motor of mine. He said he thought I should think
about getting myself a Sure Shot pressurizable tank to clean out the
motor when I needed to (and similar tasks). I looked at Kragen Auto
Parts, asked my mechanic, checked out a few other local places and
couldn't find anything.

Harbor Freight sells the Sure Shot itself:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=31058

Thanks!!!
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:42:53 -0600, John Hines
wrote:

an_Musicant wrote:
:I want this as a sort of high performance cleaning tool. They were
:recommended to me as such. I have the Dust Off stuff they sell at
:Costco, but the pressure's pretty weak out of those. I figure I can use
:my tire inflator to pump 100 PSI into it, if I can get one. Does anyone
:know a good place where I can pick up one of these? I live in Berkeley,
:CA. Thanks!
:
:Harbor freight part number 01102-3BPA for $9.99

Actually it's currently discounted to $4.99





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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:26:00 -0600, "JerryMouse"
wrote:

:John Hines wrote:
: Dan_Musicant wrote:
: I want this as a sort of high performance cleaning tool. They were
: recommended to me as such. I have the Dust Off stuff they sell at
: Costco, but the pressure's pretty weak out of those. I figure I can
: use my tire inflator to pump 100 PSI into it, if I can get one. Does
: anyone know a good place where I can pick up one of these? I live in
: Berkeley, CA. Thanks!
:
: Harbor freight part number 01102-3BPA for $9.99
:
:Now $4.99
:
:http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...unction=Search
:
Yes. Now that looks like a handy thing but I don't think it will
function as a high performance air cleaning aid, which is what I was
after. However, a refillable reusable aerosol spray can - that's very
interesting.
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 04:35:13 GMT, "Tock" wrote:

:WalMart and most auto parts shops sell 5 gallon steel tanks intended to hold
:about 100 psi . . . you fill 'em up at the gas station, then when your car
:tire needs air, you use the attached hose to fill it up . . . Probably cost
:ya $25 or so.
:
:Evidently paintball guns use a 3000 psi nitrogen filled tank, I'll bet your
:acquaintance is using something like that. To refill, all ya need is a few
unces of liquid nitrogen . . .
:
o a search on eBay for AIR TANK and you'll see lots of possible options . .
:.
:
:-Tock

I think the smallest thing that was at Kragen Auto Parts was 2 gallon
and included a pump. Thing is, that's not as portable and stowable as a
small refillable tank. I wonder how many shots you get, though, before
the pressure dies.

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xrongor wrote:

sigh.

a) lo and behold, some tires are actually rated for 100psi. find a source
for these tires to prove it to yourself.


Sure, I'll take your word for that, but the idiot that suggested inflating the
tyre to that level didn't bother pointing out that it would be necessary to
hunt around for a tyre that would handle that sort of pressure.


b) who said you need 100 psi to make a glorified can of air for blowing
dust? specifically when did i say it?


I think the OP said he wanted that sort of pressure


c) lets see your cite for this exploding tire.


I was at the hospital when his wife came in after being informed - the guy was
inflating a (front) tractor tyre after a repair when it let go. Not nice at
all. Local paper carried the story.

David



randy

"quietguy" wrote in message
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Whew, that sounds like very dangerous advice to me - a tyre blowing out
with
a 100lb/in or pressure is a very lethal weapon - a guy was killed a while
back when a tyre let go wiht no where near that amount of pressure.

David - who is horrified that someone would actually suggest something so
dangerous

xrongor wrote:

try a tire.. pump it up and you got a small tank.



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People are insane. What was the deal, someone said that a piece of
rubber from a tire that blew up with only, I don't know, thirty or forty
pounds, took out a car window. I think there's a lesson there but what
do I know.


Just to add a little of the ponderable stuff for the many "naysayers"
on the tire being Extreeeeemely dangerous. Let's explore what we're
dealing with.

Basically the 100# of pressure would be pretty high but we'll use that
as the example. That number is meant as PSI, or pounds of pressure per
square inch. I am not even the mathematician type, but I can look at a
tire/tyre, and see there is more than one square inch of
surface,................on the outside, that gives me a feel for the
inside area also.
Noting all that was said in the previous paragraph, poorly structured
as it is, I can plainly tell there's a bit more than 10 square inches
of area on the average wheel barrow tire/tyre ( A HUGE AMOUNT MORE )
At Just 10 square inches, the PSI stated above, 100PSI, is now applied
evenly accross all of the area of the tire...............comes to an
awe inspiring 1000pounds of pressure over that small stated area.Just
10 Square inches! Amazing.
I have never seen a tire so small, not even on a bicycle. So imagine
what the area inside of a typical 205/95r15 would be and apply the
same principal at a mere 32-45PSI. We'll use the area of the surface
for our experiment no sidewall calculation in the
area...........watch..............

If the tire is a 205, that's tread width. We'll convert that metric
number of mm to inches .........let's see...........8.1in.
then we can figure the height of the tire at 95% width per sidewall,
.............there's two of those...........let's
see..........7.695in., and don't forget, two of those, makes it
15.39in. plus the rim size of 15in. equals..........ok30.39in hieght
on the tire/tyre.
Now we can figure the circumference (the easy way for me is Pi =3.14)
diameter mutiplied by radius is circumference( If I remember
correctly).............so 3.14 times 30.39 = 95.42...........roughly.
this is just to make a point, not to be a math wizard.........so we
move on..................our 95.42 is the circumference of the
tire/tyre, now we need to multiply that by the width of the tread,
which as we calculated earlier from metric to inches, was 8.1
inches...........that leaves us with a number close to 773 square
inches............a bunch more than the 10 inches of area we had
before. lets use a small number for the pressure calculation here.
Let's say we like a pretty mushy, ride, not too sporty, we run 30 psi
(of course that'll ruin our tire/tyre pretty quick, but once again
this is just for fun) The big picture is coming into focus now, No?
773 square inches area JUST ON THE TREAD AREA, at 30 PSI is now
calculated to.............23190 pounds of pressure total!..........A
Huge Amoount of pressure ! Every 1 Psi adds another 773 pounds of
pressure looking for a weak spot.............capiche?

I know you can at least use a calculator to check my math. So go
ahead.........it's not exact, but it is *very* representative.

I think there are many crazy folks out there too. Try not to take it
too seriously though, cause some of them crazy *******s are WAY RIGHT
in their fears of power............be it electric, be it air, be it
water, be it politiical, be it any type of power, it is all the same
stuff...........POWER.............to be reckoned with for sure, all of
it.


I can go on if this doesn't make much of an impresion.
You should calculate the inside of an airplane at
14.47psi.............HOLY COW!

However, the lesson to be learned should be apparent.

(all of this post was made with a toungue and cheek type of feeling,
not to be anything more than informative and fun )



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"Dan_Musicant" wrote in message
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I just visited my mechanic yesterday and had a chat with him. Again, I
noticed a device he has which is a pressurized tank that he uses as a
sort of custom aerosol. He can fill it part way with some solution and
pressurize it up to over 100 PSI and spray from it. I guess it is about
1/2 gallon capacity. It's shaped like a fat version of those small
propane tanks.

I've looked for something like this in vain at my local auto parts store
- Kragen. My mechanic tells me he bought it from a Wurth distributor who
used to visit his shop every month or so. He tells me that he thinks
that Kent may also distribute or make one. He figures he paid around $50
for his.

I want this as a sort of high performance cleaning tool. They were
recommended to me as such. I have the Dust Off stuff they sell at
Costco, but the pressure's pretty weak out of those. I figure I can use
my tire inflator to pump 100 PSI into it, if I can get one. Does anyone
know a good place where I can pick up one of these? I live in Berkeley,
CA. Thanks!

Dan

Tried Lowe's? s




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"MUADIB®" wrote:

.....
... the PSI stated above, 100PSI, is now applied
evenly accross all of the area of the tire...............comes to an
awe inspiring 1000pounds of pressure over that small stated area....


NO, pressure times area == force, not another pressure...
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"MUADIB®" wrote:

....
... the PSI stated above, 100PSI, is now applied
evenly accross all of the area of the tire...............comes to an
awe inspiring 1000pounds of pressure over that small stated area....


NO, pressure times area == force, not another pressure...


I stand Corrected..............Thank you sir. ( hell, I knew that, I
just got all fluatsered by the Lack of concern shown by another)

Thanks again.




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