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Bush should sell used cars not be president!
Christ can you imagine the volume of cars this shifty,lyeing, double
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rnr_construction wrote:
Christ can you imagine the volume of cars this shifty,lyeing, double crossing finger pointing ******* could sell. Hi, He could not sell any. No one is dumber than he in this whole world. Tony |
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"Tony Hwang" wrote Oh, well. Better talk to my dog who has better IQ than some human. Well, your dog is a GOTT DAMB GENIUS!!! How'd he stuck with a masser like you??!!! |
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"Rob S." wrote in message news:EiHed.238522$wV.62933@attbi_s54... I suppose you guys breezed through Yale and Harvard Business School. Bush has shown tremendous leadership in these difficult times. The most common refrain from the left is regarding WMD. Somehow you think Bush misled us when Saddam's own troops beleived he had WMD. Bush has not lied to the American People in any regard. He is an honorable man. Which is more than I can say for his dishonorable opponent, the traitor, Kerry! Rob At least Kerry served and fought in the war. Where the hell was Bush? Hiding behind his and the Saudi's money? He wasn't even man enough to finish his committment to the Air Reserve. |
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"Rob S." wrote P.S. I just read the most fascinating document here. It seems our traitor Kerry held a secret clearance in the navy. So what is a Navy guy with Secret clearance doing clandestinely meeting with the enemy in France before coming back and lying before congress in a coordinated effort to undermine support for our soldiers in a shooting conflict. Shhhhh! It's a secret..... |
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"JerryL" wrote At least Kerry served and fought in the war. Where the hell was Bush? Hiding behind his and the Saudi's money? He wasn't even man enough to finish his committment to the Air Reserve. Yeah, yeah. And he got purple hearts thrice (I saw the JibJab film). George Bush had to fight in Alabama! You know what those good-ole-boys tried to do to him when they found out he was a cheerleader in college??!! |
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Rob S. wrote:
I suppose you guys breezed through Yale and Harvard Business School. Bush has shown tremendous leadership in these difficult times. The most common refrain from the left is regarding WMD. Somehow you think Bush misled us when Saddam's own troops beleived he had WMD. Bush has not lied to the American People in any regard. He is an honorable man. Which is more than I can say for his dishonorable opponent, the traitor, Kerry! Rob Rob, You will no doubt notice that those who disagree with you do not offer substantive refutations of your positions, but instead insult and call names. They do this because their decisions are made by emotion rather than logic. Remember, too, a mass movement can exist without a god, but it will always fail without a devil. They must have someone to hate. Their sense of self-worth is determined solely by what others think of them. By projection, they believe they can change your mind by denigration. Since they want to be loved, they assume you do also. In their calculation, if you want to avoid being hated, you must change your position. Slogans substitute for substance, decibels for data. Ignore the froth. I usually mark ad hominum attacks as support for my position - or at least an inability to refute my position (whether this inability comes from an absense of fact or an absence of intellect is impossible to determine). |
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"rnr_construction" wrote in message ... Christ can you imagine the volume of cars this shifty,lyeing, double crossing finger pointing ******* could sell. Actually when I think of a used car salesman I think of Kerrey. My BS detector is "pegged" whenever I hear the guy. He has no experience but an answer (that can be adjusted as required) for everything. Just like the shady used car salesman who only wants to make a sale by telling you anything. And then when it goes wrong he will quickly think up answers as to why it isn't his fault or you misunderstood what he said..... |
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"bill a" wrote in message m... THE TRUTH ABOUT KERRY THAT THE MEDIA WILL NEVER TELL YOU. no, that would be 'CAREFULLY PREPARED RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA THAT THE MEDIA WOULD NEVER TELL YOU BECAUSE ITS NOT EVEN WORTH THE INK IT WOULD TAKE TO PRINT IT' randy |
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"JerryMouse" wrote in message ... Rob S. wrote: I suppose you guys breezed through Yale and Harvard Business School. Bush has shown tremendous leadership in these difficult times. The most common refrain from the left is regarding WMD. Somehow you think Bush misled us when Saddam's own troops beleived he had WMD. Bush has not lied to the American People in any regard. He is an honorable man. Which is more than I can say for his dishonorable opponent, the traitor, Kerry! Rob Rob, You will no doubt notice that those who disagree with you do not offer substantive refutations of your positions, but instead insult and call names. They do this because their decisions are made by emotion rather than logic. Remember, too, a mass movement can exist without a god, but it will always fail without a devil. They must have someone to hate. Their sense of self-worth is determined solely by what others think of them. By projection, they believe they can change your mind by denigration. Since they want to be loved, they assume you do also. In their calculation, if you want to avoid being hated, you must change your position. Slogans substitute for substance, decibels for data. Ignore the froth. I usually mark ad hominum attacks as support for my position - or at least an inability to refute my position (whether this inability comes from an absense of fact or an absence of intellect is impossible to determine). listen to yourself. 'slogans substitute for substance, decibels for data' your head is so far up your ass you probably dont see the irony here. or worse. you do see it and continue anyway. randy |
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Rob S. wrote:
snip He led in the area of Stem cell research, with great understanding of the moral dilemma of harvesting human embryos for . I think that is disgusting, to cheapen human life in such a demeaning way. By parsing it with a knife and probing it with all manner of chemicals and energies, ensuring that it never achieves its manifest destiny of viable life. It is like cutting down the rain forests destroying the environment for a great many species. ...despicable. snip So you believe it's a better idea to throw nonviable embryos in the trash? Or do you, like other neocon parrots, have no idea what you're talking about, and rely on Rush Limbaugh for your information? |
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Rob S. wrote: "Erma1ina" wrote in message ... "Rob S." wrote: I suppose you guys breezed through Yale and Harvard Business School. Bush has shown tremendous leadership in these difficult times. The most So did the first lemming. |
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"Rob S." wrote in message news:EiHed.238522$wV.62933@attbi_s54... I suppose you guys breezed through Yale and Harvard Business School. Bush has shown tremendous leadership in these difficult times. Bwahahahaha! Take one look at the tape from when Bush was told America was under attack. Bush was a legacy at Yale - he didn't earn his way in. Then he was a lame performer. Newsflash - it isn't a state school. A C is a lame grade there. He was passed through because of his father's money. |
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On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 19:01:52 -0700, "rnr_construction"
wrote: Christ can you imagine the volume of cars this shifty,lyeing, double crossing finger pointing ******* could sell. Probably not as many as your father did when he was selling. |
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If you read my point you would clearly understand my view, if an embryo is
there to be discarded by man, that is the offense. I understand the pleight of those with fertility issues, but the practice of fertilizing multiple eggs to see if one sticks is ethically troubling to me. You talk in terms of inconsquential flesh, I talk in terms of significant life. The neocon is you! "Phil McCracken" wrote in message ... Rob S. wrote: snip He led in the area of Stem cell research, with great understanding of the moral dilemma of harvesting human embryos for . I think that is disgusting, to cheapen human life in such a demeaning way. By parsing it with a knife and probing it with all manner of chemicals and energies, ensuring that it never achieves its manifest destiny of viable life. It is like cutting down the rain forests destroying the environment for a great many species. ...despicable. snip So you believe it's a better idea to throw nonviable embryos in the trash? Or do you, like other neocon parrots, have no idea what you're talking about, and rely on Rush Limbaugh for your information? |
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"JerryMouse" wrote in message ... Rob, You will no doubt notice that those who disagree with you do not offer substantive refutations of your positions... A bold faced, blatant lie. An excellent one has already been posted, with complete references. I suppose you didn't bother to read, since it wouldn't fit in with your agenda. |
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"TURTLE" wrote in message ... Yea, he must be Dumb because all he could finish was a Masters Degree [ MBA ] at Harvard ! Yea , that is not much at all for everybody on this newsgroup must have a PHD from Harvard. Tony Where did you get your PHD or Masters from ? I did get my Master's and my brother did get his PhD and both of us earned our way in, and we got better scores than Bush. I had better scores than Bush, but I couldn't get into an Ivy League school. Do you know why that is? It's because I wasn't qualified. Let me put that another way. Bush was even less qualified than I was to get into Yale, yet he got in. Would you care to explain to everyone here how that happened? |
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"George" wrote in message ... His drone liars keep talking about "leadership" during 9/11. Yeah just look at the face of an idiot pretending to read my pet goat. Picture worth more than a 1000 words. And his reaction while he was surrounded by small impressionable children should have been what? Gee, what a toughie! Um, let's see. How about "kids, something important has come up and I have to leave early." Wow! Think that might have worked? Moron. |
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"bill a" wrote in message m... THE TRUTH ABOUT KERRY THAT THE MEDIA WILL NEVER TELL YOU. After reading this letter you will be shocked. After you calm down could you please email it to everyone on your list. The future of our country hangs in the balance. There are a lot of things about John Kerry that the media is desperate for you not to know. What's happening in the U.S. today borders on a conspiracy. A conspiracy by the almost exclusively Left Wing media to get you to vote for a man who has fewer real-life accomplishments than any politician in recent memory Except for Bush, of course. |
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I'd be happy to explain a little reality to ya. Schools often give
additional consideration to children of Alumni. It is not a shamefull practice, it makes business sense. You say you have an MBA, does it make sense to turn off repeat customers? Especially customers who give you money for nothing (Alumni donations) Congratulations on acheiving an MBA, I am sure you worked hard for it. Which is more than you can say for anyone who disagrees with you! Sorry you could not get into harvard, but as I state later, you are comparing apples to oranges. He did not get into college on his college record. One talks of Bush's college grades, but no-one gets into a first-year freshman class at a university on College scores, they haven't had any yet. The important factor is HIGH SCHOOL scores and referrals and recommendations and SAT and similar test scores. I do beg to differ with whoever inferred that getting a C at a private school (Yale) is somehow worse than a C at a public university. The converse is true. A C means average performance. Average performance in a private selective university would be better than average at a public university that is abligued to accept as many as possible with less regard for past performance. A 1200 combined on the SAT is respectable and above average. In 2001/2002 the average of all scores for the SAT was a combined 1020. If you just measure the White man score which is often cited as being skewed, it is an average of 1060. Now, just for comparison, what is Kerry's SAT score? Bet you guys have never asked that, it doesn't matter to you. Because the truth is irrelevant. http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d02/tables/dt133.asp Rob "jeffc" wrote in message m... "TURTLE" wrote in message ... Yea, he must be Dumb because all he could finish was a Masters Degree [ MBA ] at Harvard ! Yea , that is not much at all for everybody on this newsgroup must have a PHD from Harvard. Tony Where did you get your PHD or Masters from ? I did get my Master's and my brother did get his PhD and both of us earned our way in, and we got better scores than Bush. I had better scores than Bush, but I couldn't get into an Ivy League school. Do you know why that is? It's because I wasn't qualified. Let me put that another way. Bush was even less qualified than I was to get into Yale, yet he got in. Would you care to explain to everyone here how that happened? |
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I don't know about you guys, but being a male cheerleader was a pretty
enviable position when I was in college. I always wanted to hold one of them girls up high in the air. Speaks to his intelligence if you ask me. Rob "Red Neckerson" wrote in message news:q_Med.3109$LT1.2416@trnddc09... "JerryL" wrote At least Kerry served and fought in the war. Where the hell was Bush? Hiding behind his and the Saudi's money? He wasn't even man enough to finish his committment to the Air Reserve. Yeah, yeah. And he got purple hearts thrice (I saw the JibJab film). George Bush had to fight in Alabama! You know what those good-ole-boys tried to do to him when they found out he was a cheerleader in college??!! |
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:55:06 GMT, "Rob S."
wrote: Jeff C. I do not call you a moron, but I do note the lack of substance to your personal attack. People lose jobs all the time. I have yet to see a President fire anyone outside of Government. Your narrow view makes you feel good, but it lacks a true understanding of the marketplace of talent. Jobs are a result of economic conditions for which the President has little influence. Note the use of the word INFLUENCE, it was carefully chosen because it does not mean control. The President has no control over the economy and little influence. So please, get an understanding, then maybe you'll get a job. Rob Jeff C is well known at the local library as he's always on their computers since he don't have one of his own after getting fired for the tenth time in 6 months especially from the temp agencies. |
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 05:31:13 -0400, "JerryL"
wrote: "Rob S." wrote in message news:EiHed.238522$wV.62933@attbi_s54... I suppose you guys breezed through Yale and Harvard Business School. Bush has shown tremendous leadership in these difficult times. The most common refrain from the left is regarding WMD. Somehow you think Bush misled us when Saddam's own troops beleived he had WMD. Bush has not lied to the American People in any regard. He is an honorable man. Which is more than I can say for his dishonorable opponent, the traitor, Kerry! Rob At least Kerry served and fought in the war. Where the hell was Bush? Hiding behind his and the Saudi's money? He wasn't even man enough to finish his committment to the Air Reserve. Ak Kerry for his HD....I wonder if we'll ever get to see it.... |
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:15:24 GMT, "Rob S."
wrote: I don't know about you guys, but being a male cheerleader was a pretty enviable position when I was in college. I always wanted to hold one of them girls up high in the air. Speaks to his intelligence if you ask me. Rob Either that or...Well, what else is on the mind of a normal college male |
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"Rob S." wrote I don't know about you guys, but being a male cheerleader was a pretty enviable position when I was in college. I always wanted to hold one of them girls up high in the air. Speaks to his intelligence if you ask me. In the word of Jeff Spicoli from "Fast Times At Ridgemont High" "THOSE GUYS ARE FAGS!!!!!" ;-] |
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"JerryL" wrote in
: "Rob S." wrote in message news:EiHed.238522$wV.62933@attbi_s54... I suppose you guys breezed through Yale and Harvard Business School. Bush has shown tremendous leadership in these difficult times. The most common refrain from the left is regarding WMD. Somehow you think Bush misled us when Saddam's own troops beleived he had WMD. Bush has not lied to the American People in any regard. He is an honorable man. Which is more than I can say for his dishonorable opponent, the traitor, Kerry! Rob At least Kerry served and fought in the war. Where the hell was Bush? Hiding behind his and the Saudi's money? He wasn't even man enough to finish his committment to the Air Reserve. Bush went where his superiors ordered him to go. And at the time Bush asked for an early-out,the military was downsizing,WANTING soldiers to put in for an early-out.I was one of them. Kerry applied for a student deferment to study in Paris,and joined the Naval RESERVES only when the deferment didnt come. Kerry was anti-war before he "enlisted". -- Jim Yanik jyanik-at-kua.net |
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"Rob S." wrote in message news:KEUed.417625$mD.327059@attbi_s02... Jeff C. I do not call you a moron, but I do note the lack of substance to your personal attack. People lose jobs all the time. I have yet to see a President fire anyone outside of Government. Your narrow view makes you feel good, but it lacks a true understanding of the marketplace of talent. Jobs are a result of economic conditions for which the President has little influence. Note the use of the word INFLUENCE, it was carefully chosen because it does not mean control. The President has no control over the economy and little influence. So please, get an understanding, then maybe you'll get a job. You not the lack of substance huh? The substance was provided by you: "He led in the area of the economy, by giving tax cuts to all Americans (I got two of them, two years in a row), and it worked" Now that is just plain moronic. Not only did he mortgage our future by borrowing a huge sum of money he will leave someone else to pay back, it didn't do any good. His "plan" to improve the economy failed miserably. This is not sour grapes, as you inferred. I have a fine job. If the president has little control or influence over the economy, then why did he claim in his own speeches that his plans have improved the economy? This is absolute lunacy. My "narrow view" as you say does not make me feel good at all. It's a realistic view, and it makes me feel nauseous. You're not a moron because you think the president has control over the economy. You're not a moron because you think people haven't always lost jobs. You're a moron for thinking this situation somehow means Bush is a good president. |
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"Rob S." wrote in message news:enVed.417689$mD.409507@attbi_s02... I'd be happy to explain a little reality to ya. Schools often give additional consideration to children of Alumni. It is not a shamefull practice, it makes business sense. It's not shameful to take Bush in as a student. But the fact remains, there's nothing about it that qualifies him to be the leader of our country either - so don't bother bragging about his degree. He was a poor student, and he's a poor president. You say you have an MBA No, I didn't. Your comprehension problems are part of the reason you don't understand why Bush is such a bad president. Congratulations on acheiving an MBA, I am sure you worked hard for it. No, I didn't. Sorry you could not get into harvard I didn't try to get into Harvard. I do beg to differ with whoever inferred that getting a C at a private school (Yale) is somehow worse than a C at a public university. The converse is true. A C means average performance. Dead wrong. Granted, an A at an Ivy League school often is better than an A at a state school. The reason for this is that *usually* (but not in all cases) these schools only accept top talent to begin with. So obviously the top students will be better on average. This does not mean C is average. For example, at my graduate school, a B was required just to pass a course. If you got a C, you had to take the course over again. A C in any case is not a very good grade in graduate school. I suspect you've never been. Average performance in a private selective university would be better than average at a public university that is abligued to accept as many as possible with less regard for past performance. Yes, and that average is a B. A 1200 combined on the SAT is respectable and above average. In 2001/2002 the average of all scores for the SAT was a combined 1020. If you just measure the White man score which is often cited as being skewed, it is an average of 1060. Now, just for comparison, what is Kerry's SAT score? Bet you guys have never asked that, it doesn't matter to you. Because the truth is irrelevant. The truth is relevant. The fact is, it really doesn't matter what grades someone got in school. If Bush had failed out of college, but still went on to become a great leader, that would be fine with me. The problem is that people run around talking about how Bush graduated from Yale and Harvard, "proving" how smart and educated he is. He's neither, so don't claim otherwise. The fact of the matter is Bush is a poor leader, poor president and has poor character. He ran most of his businesses into the ground and got bailed out by his rich dad. He hasn't done anything of value on his own. The man cannot think his way out of a paper bag, let alone figure out foreign policy and diplomacy, or domestic fiscal responsibility. |
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Rob S. wrote:
If you read my point you would clearly understand my view, if an embryo is there to be discarded by man, that is the offense. I understand the pleight of those with fertility issues, but the practice of fertilizing multiple eggs to see if one sticks is ethically troubling to me. You talk in terms of inconsquential flesh, I talk in terms of significant life. The neocon is you! "Phil McCracken" wrote in message ... Rob S. wrote: snip He led in the area of Stem cell research, with great understanding of the moral dilemma of harvesting human embryos for . I think that is disgusting, to cheapen human life in such a demeaning way. By parsing it with a knife and probing it with all manner of chemicals and energies, ensuring that it never achieves its manifest destiny of viable life. It is like cutting down the rain forests destroying the environment for a great many species. ...despicable. snip So you believe it's a better idea to throw nonviable embryos in the trash? Or do you, like other neocon parrots, have no idea what you're talking about, and rely on Rush Limbaugh for your information? I talk in terms of finding use for what *you* describe as "inconsequential." You think it's better to toss it in the dumpster. |
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"jeffc" wrote The truth is relevant. The fact is, it really doesn't matter what grades someone got in school. If Bush had failed out of college, but still went on to become a great leader, that would be fine with me. The problem is that people run around talking about how Bush graduated from Yale and Harvard, "proving" how smart and educated he is. He's neither, so don't claim otherwise. Well, he IS President of the United States. Whether you like him or not, he didn't get where he is now by being dumb. Just remember that the next time you are saying "Would you like fries with that?" |
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"jeffc" wrote in message m... "Rob S." wrote in message news:enVed.417689$mD.409507@attbi_s02... I'd be happy to explain a little reality to ya. Schools often give additional consideration to children of Alumni. It is not a shamefull practice, it makes business sense. It's not shameful to take Bush in as a student. But the fact remains, there's nothing about it that qualifies him to be the leader of our country either - so don't bother bragging about his degree. He was a poor student, and he's a poor president. You say you have an MBA No, I didn't. Your comprehension problems are part of the reason you don't understand why Bush is such a bad president. Congratulations on acheiving an MBA, I am sure you worked hard for it. No, I didn't. Sorry you could not get into harvard I didn't try to get into Harvard. I do beg to differ with whoever inferred that getting a C at a private school (Yale) is somehow worse than a C at a public university. The converse is true. A C means average performance. Dead wrong. Granted, an A at an Ivy League school often is better than an A at a state school. The reason for this is that *usually* (but not in all cases) these schools only accept top talent to begin with. So obviously the top students will be better on average. This does not mean C is average. For example, at my graduate school, a B was required just to pass a course. If you got a C, you had to take the course over again. A C in any case is not a very good grade in graduate school. I suspect you've never been. Average performance in a private selective university would be better than average at a public university that is abligued to accept as many as possible with less regard for past performance. Yes, and that average is a B. A 1200 combined on the SAT is respectable and above average. In 2001/2002 the average of all scores for the SAT was a combined 1020. If you just measure the White man score which is often cited as being skewed, it is an average of 1060. Now, just for comparison, what is Kerry's SAT score? Bet you guys have never asked that, it doesn't matter to you. Because the truth is irrelevant. The truth is relevant. The fact is, it really doesn't matter what grades someone got in school. If Bush had failed out of college, but still went on to become a great leader, that would be fine with me. The problem is that people run around talking about how Bush graduated from Yale and Harvard, "proving" how smart and educated he is. He's neither, so don't claim otherwise. The fact of the matter is Bush is a poor leader, poor president and has poor character. He ran most of his businesses into the ground and got bailed out by his rich dad. He hasn't done anything of value on his own. The man cannot think his way out of a paper bag, let alone figure out foreign policy and diplomacy, or domestic fiscal responsibility. I apologize, you got a MASTER's degree (undisclosed discipline and University), and it was Yale you couldn't get into. I disagree with your assessment of what is average in Universities, at least those I have been associated with, and I stand behind that statement. Advanced degrees have more stringent requirements than undergraduate degrees and rightfully so. Often the 'average student' cannot get into the best Grad Schools. The recitation of Bush's education is not intended to say that he is the smartest, just that your attacks and those of the left wing party are baseless and that his education demonstrates that. As for your bitterness about his career, he did have some successes and if his Daddy had to bail him out, that is his Daddy's prerogative. You say that Bush is neither smart nor educated. So please, what is your definition of educated, and does that make you uneducated as well? I normally consider an educated man as a man with degrees. I work among executives who verify degrees all the time. We deem that the degrees mean they are educated. If your standard is different, then it is truly unique in the business world. Now another contradiction, all manner of Bush's education is subject to your criticisms, but his education is irrelevant. This is truly a telling point about you. You despise Bush, you don't have a true view, just hatred. So, now I truly know that reason with you is futile, you are unreasonable due to your hatred of Bush or something he stands for. |
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Yes, I said inconsequential in reference to the value you place on that
life. You probably do value that flesh is a more capitalistic way, but I am talking about life. I stated, and I think fairly clearly, that I have a problem with the creation of additional unneeded embryos that would need to be discarded. So the issue for me is not whether it is discarded or dissected, but whether or not it is created in the first place. I have no problem with invitro fertilization, just the practice of creatiing extra embryos. Once created, however, I do prefer proper disposal of the unused embryos. My disgust is with the harvesting of human embryos for capitalistic gain. In addition, I do not believe that a human embryo should ever be created in order to be harvested. Now, I do not make law and neither did the President. I am not proposing that the Government outlaw the practice. I am behind the President 100% on what he actually did, and that was to prohibit federal funding from paying for the harvesting of human embryos. The Left would have you believe that he banned the practice altogether, but that is not what actually happened. "Phil McCracken" wrote in message ... Rob S. wrote: If you read my point you would clearly understand my view, if an embryo is there to be discarded by man, that is the offense. I understand the pleight of those with fertility issues, but the practice of fertilizing multiple eggs to see if one sticks is ethically troubling to me. You talk in terms of inconsquential flesh, I talk in terms of significant life. The neocon is you! "Phil McCracken" wrote in message ... Rob S. wrote: snip He led in the area of Stem cell research, with great understanding of the moral dilemma of harvesting human embryos for . I think that is disgusting, to cheapen human life in such a demeaning way. By parsing it with a knife and probing it with all manner of chemicals and energies, ensuring that it never achieves its manifest destiny of viable life. It is like cutting down the rain forests destroying the environment for a great many species. ...despicable. snip So you believe it's a better idea to throw nonviable embryos in the trash? Or do you, like other neocon parrots, have no idea what you're talking about, and rely on Rush Limbaugh for your information? I talk in terms of finding use for what *you* describe as "inconsequential." You think it's better to toss it in the dumpster. |
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"Red Neckerson" wrote in message news:92_ed.4198$kr4.2721@trnddc01... "jeffc" wrote The truth is relevant. The fact is, it really doesn't matter what grades someone got in school. If Bush had failed out of college, but still went on to become a great leader, that would be fine with me. The problem is that people run around talking about how Bush graduated from Yale and Harvard, "proving" how smart and educated he is. He's neither, so don't claim otherwise. Well, he IS President of the United States. Whether you like him or not, he didn't get where he is now by being dumb. You're right. He got there by being rich. Just remember that the next time you are saying "Would you like fries with that?" If it makes you feel better to think that's the job I have, or that I'm more stupid than the president, be my guest. |
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"Rob S." wrote in message news:Mb_ed.2000$HA.1046@attbi_s01... I stand by my statement. The economy is much improved largely as a result of the tax cuts. The economy is not improved, it's worsened. Now the deficit is a different story. The verdict is still out on whether deficits hurt the economy. The deficit doesn't hurt the economy. The deficit hurts our financial position by putting us in debt. This is all basic stuff. How old are you by the way? I use the term 'narrow view' in relation to you, because you often resort to name calling rather than substantive debate. I use the term "moron" in relation to you, because you often can't comprehend substantive debate when you get slapped in the face with it. I subscribe to the idea that Presidents deserve little credit for a good or a bad economy. Then why take sides with a president who takes credit for a good economy when it's bad? A good environment when he's destroying it? Good foreign diplomacy when he's absolutely horrible at it? That is in part due to the two-term limitation of the Presidency. I believe the true impact of a Presidency lies beyond their terms in office. The immediate impacts of a Presidency are subjective based on the perceptions of those who invest in the stock market and on the actions of the Federal Reserve. So then why support Bush? |
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Now, I do not make law and neither did the President. I am not proposing that the Government outlaw the practice. I am behind the President 100% on what he actually did, and that was to prohibit federal funding from paying for the harvesting of human embryos. The Left would have you believe that he banned the practice altogether, but that is not what actually happened. Get your head out of . . . the sand and try to understand the damage the Bush administration's intellectually dishonest, ideologically-driven policies are having on U.S. science and technology and, consequently, the longterm well-being of the country. Check out the website of Scientists and Engineers for Change: http://www.scientistsandengineersfor...g/founding.php George W. Bush's INCOMPETENCE is endangering the future of the U.S. Read the letter, endorsing John Kerry, from 48 Nobel prize winners in various scientific diciplines: http://www.scientistsandengineersfor...obelletter.php Excerpt: "The prosperity, health, environment, and security of Americans depend on Presidential leadership to sustain our vibrant science and technology; to encourage education at home and attract talented scientists and engineers from abroad; and to nurture a business environment that transforms new knowledge into new opportunities for creating quality jobs and reaching shared goals. "President Bush and his administration are compromising our future on each of these counts. By reducing funding for scientific research, they are undermining the foundation of America's future. By setting unwarranted restrictions on stem cell research, they are impeding medical advances. By employing inappropriate immigration practices, they are turning critical scientific talent away from our shores. And by ignoring scientific consensus on critical issues such as global warming, they are threatening the earth's future. Unlike previous administrations, Republican and Democratic alike, the Bush administration has ignored unbiased scientific advice in the policy-making that is so important to our collective welfare." |
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"jeffc" wrote in message m... "TURTLE" wrote in message ... Yea, he must be Dumb because all he could finish was a Masters Degree [ MBA ] at Harvard ! Yea , that is not much at all for everybody on this newsgroup must have a PHD from Harvard. Tony Where did you get your PHD or Masters from ? I did get my Master's and my brother did get his PhD and both of us earned our way in, and we got better scores than Bush. I had better scores than Bush, but I couldn't get into an Ivy League school. Do you know why that is? It's because I wasn't qualified. Let me put that another way. Bush was even less qualified than I was to get into Yale, yet he got in. Would you care to explain to everyone here how that happened? This is Turtle. Yes I sure can. The Bush Family had M.O.N.E.Y. and got his ass in there. Also Kerry had M.O.N.E.Y. TOO. Kerry was dating JFK's Niece at the time that he wanted into Yale. He could not get into Harvard because of grade point average and had to accept Yale. If your dating one of the Kennedy family, You can get into any school you want, if you have the grade point average that is. Kerry often went salling with JFK in Chesa Peak bay working his way into political arena. Did you get to go Salling with JFK when you wanted into Harvard ? They didn't ask me so I had to go to LSU in Louisiana. TURTLE P.S. Yea, You don't get to go salling with JFK if your family is not a Million Aires. |
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"Rob S." wrote: Now, I do not make law and neither did the President. I am not proposing that the Government outlaw the practice. I am behind the President 100% on what he actually did, and that was to prohibit federal funding from paying for the harvesting of human embryos. The Left would have you believe that he banned the practice altogether, but that is not what actually happened. Get your head out of . . . the sand and try to understand the damage the Bush administration's intellectually dishonest, ideologically-driven policies are having on U.S. science and technology and, consequently, the longterm well-being of the country. Check out the website of Scientists and Engineers for Change: http://www.scientistsandengineersfor...g/founding.php George W. Bush's INCOMPETENCE is endangering the future of the U.S. Read the letter, endorsing John Kerry, from 48 Nobel prize winners in various scientific diciplines: http://www.scientistsandengineersfor...obelletter.php Also, checkout the following "Scientific American" editorial: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?SID...0&chanID=sa004 April 26, 2004 Bush-League Lysenkoism The White House bends science to its will By The Editors Starting in the 1930s, the Soviets spurned genetics in favor of Lysenkoism, a fraudulent theory of heredity inspired by Communist ideology. Doing so crippled agriculture in the U.S.S.R. for decades. You would think that bad precedent would have taught President George W. Bush something. But perhaps he is no better at history than at science. In February his White House received failing marks in a statement signed by 62 leading scientists, including 20 Nobel laureates, 19 recipients of the National Medal of Science, and advisers to the Eisenhower and Nixon administrations. It begins, "Successful application of science has played a large part in the policies that have made the United States of America the world's most powerful nation and its citizens increasingly prosperous and healthy. Although scientific input to the government is rarely the only factor in public policy decisions, this input should always be weighed from an objective and impartial perspective to avoid perilous consequences.... The administration of George W. Bush has, however, disregarded this principle." Doubters of that judgment should read the report from the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) that accompanies the statement, "Restoring Scientific Integrity in Policy Making" (available at www.ucsusa.org). Among the affronts that it details: The administration misrepresented the findings of the National Academy of Sciences and other experts on climate change. It meddled with the discussion of climate change in an Environmental Protection Agency report until the EPA eliminated that section. It suppressed another EPA study that showed that the administration's proposed Clear Skies Act would do less than current law to reduce air pollution and mercury contamination of fish. It even dropped independent scientists from advisory committees on lead poisoning and drug abuse in favor of ones with ties to industry. Let us offer more examples of our own. The Department of Health and Human Services deleted information from its Web sites that runs contrary to the president's preference for "abstinence only" sex education programs. The Office of Foreign Assets Control made it much more difficult for anyone from "hostile nations" to be published in the U.S., so some scientific journals will no longer consider submissions from them. The Office of Management and Budget has proposed overhauling peer review for funding of science that bears on environmental and health regulations--in effect, industry scientists would get to approve what research is conducted by the EPA. None of those criticisms fazes the president, though. Less than two weeks after the UCS statement was released, Bush unceremoniously replaced two advocates of human embryonic stem cell research on his advisory Council on Bioethics with individuals more likely to give him a hallelujah chorus of opposition to it. Blind loyalists to the president will dismiss the UCS report because that organization often tilts left--never mind that some of those signatories are conservatives. They may brush off this magazine's reproofs the same way, as well as the regular salvos launched by California Representative Henry A. Waxman of the House Government Reform Committee [see Insights] and maybe even Arizona Senator John McCain's scrutiny for the Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation. But it is increasingly impossible to ignore that this White House disdains research that inconveniences it. |
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"jeffc" wrote in message m... "Red Neckerson" wrote in message news:92_ed.4198$kr4.2721@trnddc01... "jeffc" wrote The truth is relevant. The fact is, it really doesn't matter what grades someone got in school. If Bush had failed out of college, but still went on to become a great leader, that would be fine with me. The problem is that people run around talking about how Bush graduated from Yale and Harvard, "proving" how smart and educated he is. He's neither, so don't claim otherwise. Well, he IS President of the United States. Whether you like him or not, he didn't get where he is now by being dumb. You're right. He got there by being rich. This is Turtle. Kerry got to be a shooter to the President job by being RICH too. Kerry is 6 time richer than the whole Bush Family combined. The next time you pick up a bottle ketchup look on it and see Heinz wrote on it. He own the company lock stock and barrel. Jeffc , I'm sorry to say this but with your good education and a fine job I hope. You can't afford his electric bill to be paid on his 6 mansions over seas and in the states. I have been told it is $1.2 Millon dollars a year. I don't even think I could pay his water bill. TURTLE |
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"jeffc" wrote Well, he IS President of the United States. Whether you like him or not, he didn't get where he is now by being dumb. You're right. He got there by being rich. Just remember that the next time you are saying "Would you like fries with that?" If it makes you feel better to think that's the job I have, or that I'm more stupid than the president, be my guest. No, what would make me FEEL better is if you go my to go order right for once! Getting tired of having to go back in and tell your manager you got my order wrong AGAIN!!!! |
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"TURTLE" wrote Kerry got to be a shooter to the President job by being RICH too. Kerry is 6 time richer than the whole Bush Family combined. The next time you pick up a bottle ketchup look on it and see Heinz wrote on it. He own the company lock stock and barrel. Jeffc , I'm sorry to say this but with your good education and a fine job I hope. You can't afford his electric bill to be paid on his 6 mansions over seas and in the states. I have been told it is $1.2 Millon dollars a year. I don't even think I could pay his water bill. Yeah, butt all the detractors say it's not Kerry's money, it's his hermaphrodite wife's...... |
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