New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean everyone must become vegetarian?

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On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step
forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient
beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to
Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart
of government policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HLy27bK-wU

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"Clive Arthur" wrote in message
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On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step forwards
on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings
through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament
tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government
policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HLy27bK-wU

You buggers really rule the world humour wise.

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HLy27bK-wU

You buggers really rule the world humour wise.

Sociopaths like you and the Scottish ****** will NEVER be allowed to rule
the world, even though you eternal losers keep trying hard! BG

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Message-ID:

On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step
forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient
beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to
Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart
of government policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?

Only if there's a law against eating sentient beings. I don't think
there's even a law against eating humans, thought there might be one
against improper use of a human body. (I'm not sure how that works;
don't some hippy types fry up their children's afterbirths and eat them?)

--
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On 5/15/2021 5:23 PM, Max Demian wrote:
On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step
forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient
beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to
Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart
of government policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that
mean everyone must become vegetarian?

Only if there's a law against eating sentient beings. I don't think
there's even a law against eating humans, thought there might be one
against improper use of a human body. (I'm not sure how that works;
don't some hippy types fry up their children's afterbirths and eat them?)


Yup and the same people that do not want us to eat meat are in favor of
abortion.

"Frank" "frank wrote in message
...
On 5/15/2021 5:23 PM, Max Demian wrote:
On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step
forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient
beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to
Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart
of government policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?

Only if there's a law against eating sentient beings. I don't think
there's even a law against eating humans, thought there might be one
against improper use of a human body. (I'm not sure how that works; don't
some hippy types fry up their children's afterbirths and eat them?)


Yup and the same people that do not want us to eat meat are in favor of
abortion.

Good thing they abort theirs tho.

On Sat, 15 May 2021 19:34:02 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:

On 5/15/2021 5:23 PM, Max Demian wrote:
On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step
forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient
beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to
Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart
of government policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that
mean everyone must become vegetarian?

Only if there's a law against eating sentient beings. I don't think
there's even a law against eating humans, thought there might be one
against improper use of a human body. (I'm not sure how that works;
don't some hippy types fry up their children's afterbirths and eat them?)


Yup and the same people that do not want us to eat meat are in favor of
abortion.

Late term, or even later.

On 05/15/2021 05:34 PM, Frank wrote:
On 5/15/2021 5:23 PM, Max Demian wrote:
On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step
forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as
sentient beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be
introduced to Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at
the very heart of government policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that
mean everyone must become vegetarian?

Only if there's a law against eating sentient beings. I don't think
there's even a law against eating humans, thought there might be one
against improper use of a human body. (I'm not sure how that works;
don't some hippy types fry up their children's afterbirths and eat them?)


Yup and the same people that do not want us to eat meat are in favor of
abortion.

otoh you have some of the people who are dead set against abortion but
lose all interest when the baby takes its first breath.

Who knows but try explaining that to a person starving somewhere when there
are plentiful animals around and you have a gun.
I also look at nature and do not see quite highly intelligent big cats
having debates at becoming vegetarian to save the sentient antelope.
All life is to some extent sentient after all. The biggest reason for not
using animals as food by breeding them is the greenhouse effect it can
cause from all that farting.
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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment Secretary
said that the Government would take a significant step forwards on animal
welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings through a new
Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament tomorrow (13
May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government policy
decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?

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On May 15, 2021 at 10:03:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment Secretary
said that the Government would take a significant step forwards on animal
welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings through a new
Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament tomorrow (13
May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government policy decision
making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?

If they are sentient, not really. If they are sapient, then yes. That is
assuming the legal terms mean what the dictionary definition says and not what
the more commonly used definition is.

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On Sat, 15 May 2021 22:23:18 +0100, Max Dumb, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:


Only if there's a law against eating sentient beings. I don't think
there's even a law against eating humans, thought there might be one
against improper use of a human body. (I'm not sure how that works;
don't some hippy types fry up their children's afterbirths and eat them?)

Is there no bait idiotic enough that you senile troll-feeding ASSHOLE will
NOT take, senile Mad Dumb?

On Sun, 16 May 2021 10:06:12 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

Yup and the same people that do not want us to eat meat are in favor of
abortion.

Good thing they abort theirs tho.

The good thing is that useless senile sociopathic cretins like you can NOT
procreate and, in your case, never managed to procreate!

On Sun, 16 May 2021 07:29:15 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered again:



If they are sentient, not really. If they are sapient, then yes. That is
assuming the legal terms mean what the dictionary definition says and not what
the more commonly used definition is.

ROTFLOL! Driveling senile ASSHOLES!

On Sun, 16 May 2021 07:54:53 +0100, Brainless & Daft, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

Who knows but try explaining that to a person starving somewhere when there
are plentiful animals around and you have a gun.
I also look at nature and do not see quite highly intelligent big cats
having debates at becoming vegetarian to save the sentient antelope.
All life is to some extent sentient after all. The biggest reason for not
using animals as food by breeding them is the greenhouse effect it can
cause from all that farting.
Brainless & Daft

Or just environmental pollution by absolutely brain dead idiots like you and
him by simply breathing and bull****ting and blathering idiotically!!!

On Sat, 15 May 2021 20:04:29 -0600, rbowman wrote:

otoh you have some of the people who are dead set against abortion but
lose all interest when the baby takes its first breath.

Exactly. Or they appear to care so much when Israeli children are killed
but say nothing when hundreds of Palestinian children die. Hypocrisy in
spades.

It beats the **** outta me how they can handle the constant cognitive
dissonance.

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"We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom
of Palestine" - Nelson Mandela

On 15/05/2021 22:23, Max Demian wrote:
On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step
forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient
beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to
Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart
of government policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that
mean everyone must become vegetarian?

Only if there's a law against eating sentient beings. I don't think
there's even a law against eating humans, thought there might be one
against improper use of a human body. (I'm not sure how that works;
don't some hippy types fry up their children's afterbirths and eat them?)


There is not a law against eating human flesh, but getting hold of some
legally might be a problem.

--
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On 16/05/2021 12:21, nightjar wrote:
On 15/05/2021 22:23, Max Demian wrote:
On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step
forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as
sentient beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be
introduced to Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at
the very heart of government policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that
mean everyone must become vegetarian?

Only if there's a law against eating sentient beings. I don't think
there's even a law against eating humans, thought there might be one
against improper use of a human body. (I'm not sure how that works;
don't some hippy types fry up their children's afterbirths and eat them?)


There is not a law against eating human flesh, but getting hold of some
legally might be a problem.


Quite so. But some care may be needed to remove all risk of charges of
outraging public decency or preventing a lawful burial. DIY (i.e.
autocannibalism) is a safer option - absent a mental health assessment


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On 16/05/2021 13:33, Robin wrote:
On 16/05/2021 12:21, nightjar wrote:
....
There is not a law against eating human flesh, but getting hold of
some legally might be a problem.


Quite so.* But some care may be needed to remove all risk of charges of
outraging public decency or preventing a lawful burial.* DIY (i.e.
autocannibalism) is a safer option - absent a mental health assessment


There is a chap who claims to have eaten his own foot. It was surgically
amputated after a motorcycling accident and the surgeon let him keep it.

--
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On Sun, 16 May 2021 16:06:18 +0100, nightjar wrote:

On 16/05/2021 13:33, Robin wrote:
On 16/05/2021 12:21, nightjar wrote:
...
There is not a law against eating human flesh, but getting hold of
some legally might be a problem.


Quite so.Â* But some care may be needed to remove all risk of charges of
outraging public decency or preventing a lawful burial.Â* DIY (i.e.
autocannibalism) is a safer option - absent a mental health assessment



There is a chap who claims to have eaten his own foot. It was surgically
amputated after a motorcycling accident and the surgeon let him keep it.

That's nothing. I know a guy who's always putting his foot in his mouth.



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On Sun, 16 May 2021 12:21:50 +0100, nightjar wrote:

On 15/05/2021 22:23, Max Demian wrote:
On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step
forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient
beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to
Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart
of government policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that
mean everyone must become vegetarian?

Only if there's a law against eating sentient beings. I don't think
there's even a law against eating humans, thought there might be one
against improper use of a human body. (I'm not sure how that works;
don't some hippy types fry up their children's afterbirths and eat them?)


There is not a law against eating human flesh, but getting hold of some
legally might be a problem.

The point is, you'd get done if you killed a person for the purposes of eating. Eating animals that are now declared sentient, you have to kill them first. If this law was used correctly, it would require us to only eat animals that died of natural causes.

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"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 May 2021 12:21:50 +0100, nightjar wrote:

On 15/05/2021 22:23, Max Demian wrote:
On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step
forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient
beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to
Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart
of government policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that
mean everyone must become vegetarian?

Only if there's a law against eating sentient beings. I don't think
there's even a law against eating humans, thought there might be one
against improper use of a human body. (I'm not sure how that works;
don't some hippy types fry up their children's afterbirths and eat
them?)


There is not a law against eating human flesh, but getting hold of some
legally might be a problem.

The point is, you'd get done if you killed a person for the purposes of
eating.

But its less clear what the law would say if someone chose
to kill themselves so you could eat them. Or even what the
legal situation is if say you are marooned on a useless
boat and choose to eat those who die of starvation.

Eating animals that are now declared sentient, you have to kill them
first.

Not if you eat road kill and those that die in other ways
that have nothing to do with any action of yours.

If this law was used correctly, it would require us to only eat animals
that died of natural causes.

And road kill etc.

On Mon, 17 May 2021 05:07:29 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather


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Birdbrain: "I've never worked out why, I assumed it was maybe meateaters
that made stinky ****, but then why does vegetarian human **** stink? Is it
just the fact that we're capable of digesting meat?"

Senile Rodent: "Nope, some cow **** stinks too."

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On Mon, 17 May 2021 05:07:29 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

But its less clear what the law would say if someone chose to kill
themselves so you could eat them. Or even what the legal situation is if
say you are marooned on a useless boat and choose to eat those who die
of starvation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes

FYI
HTH
HAND

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On Sat, 15 May 2021 19:01:49 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Clive Arthur" wrote in message
...
On 15/05/2021 18:03, Commander Kinsey wrote:
New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step forwards
on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings
through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament
tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government
policy decision making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HLy27bK-wU

You buggers really rule the world humour wise.

Agreed, not sure why.

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On Sun, 16 May 2021 08:29:15 +0100, Snit wrote:

On May 15, 2021 at 10:03:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment Secretary
said that the Government would take a significant step forwards on animal
welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings through a new
Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament tomorrow (13
May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government policy decision
making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?

If they are sentient, not really. If they are sapient, then yes. That is
assuming the legal terms mean what the dictionary definition says and not what
the more commonly used definition is.

Ah, a legal term, as in what the word meant 50 billion years ago. To most people "sentient" means they have feelings, not just they can react to stimuli. A plant can do that.

However, since the law is talking about preventing abuse of pets, they must be talking about the modern meaning. If they declare all animals to have the status of not being abused, that should also include not being killed for food.

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On 17/05/2021 19:33, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 16 May 2021 08:29:15 +0100, Snit wrote:

On May 15, 2021 at 10:03:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary
said that the Government would take a significant step forwards on
animal
welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings through a new
Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament tomorrow (13
May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government policy
decision
making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?

If they are sentient, not really. If they are sapient, then yes. That is
assuming the legal terms mean what the dictionary definition says and
not what
the more commonly used definition is.

Ah, a legal term, as in what the word meant 50 billion years ago.* To
most people "sentient" means they have feelings, not just they can react
to stimuli.* A plant can do that.

However, since the law is talking about preventing abuse of pets, they
must be talking about the modern meaning.* If they declare all animals
to have the status of not being abused, that should also include not
being killed for food.

That doesn't follow. It will be interesting to see f humane slaughter is
required.

On May 17, 2021 at 11:33:29 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Sun, 16 May 2021 08:29:15 +0100, Snit wrote:

On May 15, 2021 at 10:03:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment Secretary
said that the Government would take a significant step forwards on animal
welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings through a new
Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament tomorrow (13
May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government policy decision
making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?

If they are sentient, not really. If they are sapient, then yes. That is
assuming the legal terms mean what the dictionary definition says and not
what
the more commonly used definition is.

Ah, a legal term, as in what the word meant 50 billion years ago. To most
people "sentient" means they have feelings, not just they can react to
stimuli. A plant can do that.

However, since the law is talking about preventing abuse of pets, they must
be talking about the modern meaning. If they declare all animals to have the
status of not being abused, that should also include not being killed for
food.

I am OK with raising animals for food, but think there should be stronger laws
to protect them. The conditions of our food industry for the animals -- and
the humans for that matter -- are horrible.


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On 2021-05-17 12:16 p.m., Snit wrote:
On May 17, 2021 at 11:33:29 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Sun, 16 May 2021 08:29:15 +0100, Snit wrote:

On May 15, 2021 at 10:03:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment Secretary
said that the Government would take a significant step forwards on animal
welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings through a new
Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament tomorrow (13
May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government policy decision
making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?

If they are sentient, not really. If they are sapient, then yes. That is
assuming the legal terms mean what the dictionary definition says and not
what
the more commonly used definition is.

Ah, a legal term, as in what the word meant 50 billion years ago. To most
people "sentient" means they have feelings, not just they can react to
stimuli. A plant can do that.

However, since the law is talking about preventing abuse of pets, they must
be talking about the modern meaning. If they declare all animals to have the
status of not being abused, that should also include not being killed for
food.

I am OK with raising animals for food, but think there should be stronger laws
to protect them. The conditions of our food industry for the animals -- and
the humans for that matter -- are horrible.


if its on my land i can shoot it

On May 17, 2021 at 12:25:45 PM MST, "%" wrote
:

On 2021-05-17 12:16 p.m., Snit wrote:
On May 17, 2021 at 11:33:29 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Sun, 16 May 2021 08:29:15 +0100, Snit wrote:

On May 15, 2021 at 10:03:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment Secretary
said that the Government would take a significant step forwards on animal
welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings through a new
Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament tomorrow (13
May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government policy
decision
making."

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?

If they are sentient, not really. If they are sapient, then yes. That is
assuming the legal terms mean what the dictionary definition says and not
what
the more commonly used definition is.

Ah, a legal term, as in what the word meant 50 billion years ago. To most
people "sentient" means they have feelings, not just they can react to
stimuli. A plant can do that.

However, since the law is talking about preventing abuse of pets, they must
be talking about the modern meaning. If they declare all animals to have
the
status of not being abused, that should also include not being killed for
food.

I am OK with raising animals for food, but think there should be stronger
laws
to protect them. The conditions of our food industry for the animals -- and
the humans for that matter -- are horrible.


if its on my land i can shoot it

I shot animals yesterday.

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On Mon, 17 May 2021 19:16:20 GMT, **** the git, the notorious,
troll-feeding, senile HUGE asshole, blathered again:


I am OK with raising animals for food, but think there should be stronger laws
to protect them. The conditions of our food industry for the animals -- and
the humans for that matter -- are horrible.

Already around to suck off the Scottish ****** some more, you greedy senile
cocksucker? LOL

On Mon, 17 May 2021 20:02:12 +0100, Fredxx, the notorious, troll-feeding,
senile smartass, blathered again:


That doesn't follow. It will be interesting to see f humane slaughter is
required.

What DOES follow is that you are sick troll-feeding senile asshole of the
very worst sort!

On 5/17/2021 12:25 PM, % wrote:
On 2021-05-17 12:16 p.m., Snit wrote:
On May 17, 2021 at 11:33:29 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Sun, 16 May 2021 08:29:15 +0100, Snit
wrote:

Â* On May 15, 2021 at 10:03:45 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
Â* :

Â* New UK law:

Â* "During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary
Â* said that the Government would take a significant step forwards
on animal
Â* welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings
through a new
Â* Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament
tomorrow (13
Â* May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government
policy decision
Â* making."

Â* If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't
that mean
Â* everyone must become vegetarian?

Â* If they are sentient, not really. If they are sapient, then yes.
That is
Â* assuming the legal terms mean what the dictionary definition says
and not
what
Â* the more commonly used definition is.

Ah, a legal term, as in what the word meant 50 billion years ago.Â* To
most
people "sentient" means they have feelings, not just they can react to
stimuli.Â* A plant can do that.

However, since the law is talking about preventing abuse of pets,
they must
be talking about the modern meaning.Â* If they declare all animals to
have the
status of not being abused, that should also include not being killed
for
food.

I am OK with raising animals for food, but think there should be
stronger laws
to protect them. The conditions of our food industry for the animals
-- and
the humans for that matter -- are horrible.


if its on my land i can shoot it

You certainly don't live in my city.

On Sun, 16 May 2021 13:10:52 +0100, Fredxx wrote:

On 15/05/2021 19:03, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 15 May 2021 18:03:45 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart of government policy decision making."

Hopefully good news (and there will be plenty of more of that to
come).

That will be a first if you support animal welfare while an animal is
alive.

If it improves farm animal welfare and demand humane slaughter, to
include the stunning or bolting of animals before slaughter then that
will indeed be a step forward.

********, killing is 1 billion times worse than torture.

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean everyone must become vegetarian?

No, because that means we aren't recognising the sentience and so
rights of egg laying chickens or cows.

If we want children's brains to develop normally then they require a
natural balanced diet to include meat products.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...r-intelligence

Bull****. You need vitamins X Y and Z and that's it.

On Mon, 17 May 2021 14:08:43 +0100, Fredxx wrote:

On 17/05/2021 12:15, whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 16 May 2021 at 13:10:55 UTC+1, Fredxx wrote:
On 15/05/2021 19:03, T i m wrote:
And the indoctrination that leads to such exploitation starts at an
early age:

https://ibb.co/wcMQjvn
Quite, we evolved the lactase persistent gene years ago.

Some have 'evloved' to not be able to eat nuts although there are three distinct things
we ignorantly refer to as nuts.

I don't know much about nut allergies. There was an article some time
ago that correlated how we are slow to introduce nuts to children, for
fear of choking, and this might add to this allergy.

Since peanuts aren't technically a nut, you can eat those with a nut allergy.

On 23/05/2021 19:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
********, killing is 1 billion times worse than torture.

I guess thats why when I torture you, you will plead for death


--
€œPeople believe certain stories because everyone important tells them,
and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them.
Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, ones
agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of
ones suitability to be taken seriously.€�

Paul Krugman

On Sun, 23 May 2021 20:24:21 +0100, The Natural Idiot, the notorious,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered again:


I guess thats why when I torture you, you will plead for death

Alas, you sick senile idiot ONLY feed him, time and again! BG

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 16 May 2021 13:10:52 +0100, Fredxx wrote:

On 15/05/2021 19:03, T i m wrote:
On Sat, 15 May 2021 18:03:45 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

New UK law:

"During a visit to Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, the Environment
Secretary said that the Government would take a significant step
forwards on animal welfare by formally recognising animals as sentient
beings through a new Animal Sentience Bill that will be introduced to
Parliament tomorrow (13 May), putting animal welfare at the very heart
of government policy decision making."

Hopefully good news (and there will be plenty of more of that to
come).

That will be a first if you support animal welfare while an animal is
alive.

If it improves farm animal welfare and demand humane slaughter, to
include the stunning or bolting of animals before slaughter then that
will indeed be a step forward.

********, killing is 1 billion times worse than torture.

If animals are to be recognised as sentient beings, shouldn't that mean
everyone must become vegetarian?

No, because that means we aren't recognising the sentience and so
rights of egg laying chickens or cows.

If we want children's brains to develop normally then they require a
natural balanced diet to include meat products.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...r-intelligence

Bull****. You need vitamins X Y and Z and that's it.

Wrong.

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 17 May 2021 14:08:43 +0100, Fredxx wrote:

On 17/05/2021 12:15, whisky-dave wrote:
On Sunday, 16 May 2021 at 13:10:55 UTC+1, Fredxx wrote:
On 15/05/2021 19:03, T i m wrote:
And the indoctrination that leads to such exploitation starts at an
early age:

https://ibb.co/wcMQjvn
Quite, we evolved the lactase persistent gene years ago.

Some have 'evloved' to not be able to eat nuts although there are three
distinct things
we ignorantly refer to as nuts.

I don't know much about nut allergies. There was an article some time
ago that correlated how we are slow to introduce nuts to children, for
fear of choking, and this might add to this allergy.

Since peanuts aren't technically a nut, you can eat those with a nut
allergy.

Wrong.

On Mon, 24 May 2021 08:00:04 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather

--
Another typical retarded "conversation" between the two resident idiots:

Birdbrain: "But imagine how cool it was to own slaves."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, right. Feed them, clothe them, and fix them when
they're broken.
After all, you paid good money for them. Then you've got to keep an eye
on them all the time."

Birdbrain: "Better than having to give them wages on top of that."

Senile Rodent: "Specially when they make more slaves for you
and produce their own food and clothes."

MID: