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Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended?
Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ |
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On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 5:07:47 PM UTC-5, apollo wrote:
Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended? Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ Putting "university" at the beginning of your subject line means nothing. Osterholm has a PhD in environmental health, and a MPH in epidemiology, all from the University of Minnesota. That said, his resume overall is quite impressive. Experts can legitimately disagree. I wouldn't necessarily take this guy's expertise over Fauci's. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 2/1/2021 5:07 PM, apollo wrote:
Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended? Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ Citing The New American as a reference source is problematic if you're trying to influence the entire political spectrum of potential readers. See: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-new-american/ |
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On 2/2/2021 6:22 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:
On 2/1/2021 5:07 PM, apollo wrote: Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended? Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ Citing The New American as a reference source is problematic if you're trying to influence the entire political spectrum of potential readers. *See: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-new-american/ "Overall, we rate the New American Right Biased based on story selection that always favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to rejecting the consensus of science and poor sourcing techniques." |
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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 2 Feb 2021 09:22:54 -0500, Retirednoguilt
wrote: On 2/1/2021 5:07 PM, apollo wrote: Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended? Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ Citing The New American as a reference source is problematic if you're trying to influence the entire political spectrum of potential readers. See: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-new-american/ Hmmm, "Overall, we rate the New American Right Biased based on story selection that always favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to rejecting the consensus of science and poor sourcing techniques." But why would I want to read anything that might disagree with what I already think? I read for pleasure and that's not pleasure. |
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On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 2:11:36 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 2 Feb 2021 09:22:54 -0500, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 2/1/2021 5:07 PM, apollo wrote: Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended? Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ Citing The New American as a reference source is problematic if you're trying to influence the entire political spectrum of potential readers. See: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-new-american/ Hmmm, "Overall, we rate the New American Right Biased based on story selection that always favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to rejecting the consensus of science and poor sourcing techniques." But why would I want to read anything that might disagree with what I already think? I read for pleasure and that's not pleasure. It takes most kinds. I enjoy reading George Will, even though I often disagree with what he thinks. Cindy Hamilton |
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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 2 Feb 2021 12:57:39 -0800 (PST),
" wrote: On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 2:11:36 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 2 Feb 2021 09:22:54 -0500, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 2/1/2021 5:07 PM, apollo wrote: Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended? Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ Citing The New American as a reference source is problematic if you're trying to influence the entire political spectrum of potential readers. See: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-new-american/ Hmmm, "Overall, we rate the New American Right Biased based on story selection that always favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to rejecting the consensus of science and poor sourcing techniques." But why would I want to read anything that might disagree with what I already think? I read for pleasure and that's not pleasure. It takes most kinds. I enjoy reading George Will, even though I often disagree with what he thinks. Cindy Hamilton FWIW, I was sarcastically representing a right-winger. |
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On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 10:20:07 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 2 Feb 2021 12:57:39 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 2:11:36 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 2 Feb 2021 09:22:54 -0500, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 2/1/2021 5:07 PM, apollo wrote: Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended? Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ Citing The New American as a reference source is problematic if you're trying to influence the entire political spectrum of potential readers. See: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-new-american/ Hmmm, "Overall, we rate the New American Right Biased based on story selection that always favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to rejecting the consensus of science and poor sourcing techniques.." But why would I want to read anything that might disagree with what I already think? I read for pleasure and that's not pleasure. It takes most kinds. I enjoy reading George Will, even though I often disagree with what he thinks. Cindy Hamilton FWIW, I was sarcastically representing a right-winger. Sarcasm is so difficult to convey on Usenet. I can't find the quote right now, but it went something like this: "Any position, however extreme or ridiculous, can find an adherent on Usenet." Cindy Hamilton |
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On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 6:43:30 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 5:07:47 PM UTC-5, apollo wrote: Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended? Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ Putting "university" at the beginning of your subject line means nothing. Osterholm has a PhD in environmental health, and a MPH in epidemiology, all from the University of Minnesota. That said, his resume overall is quite impressive. Experts can legitimately disagree. I wouldn't necessarily take this guy's expertise over Fauci's. Cindy Hamilton I saw this guy on Meet the Depressed Sunday. He's been on there many times. I was surprised how doom and gloom he was this time on what he claims is coming. He says we are in for a huge surge, the worst is yet to come, due to the new variants. Seemed to me he was going way out on a limb with that prediction, especially when the curve is down about 40% from where it was just a few weeks ago. Seems to me that if we didn't hit epic disaster last month, there is a decent chance that we have hit the peak and it;s not going to get worse than that. But we'll see. And dr. O wasn't saying that we might be headed for the worst part, he said it's a certainty. |
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On 2/3/2021 8:33 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 6:43:30 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 5:07:47 PM UTC-5, apollo wrote: Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended? Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ Putting "university" at the beginning of your subject line means nothing. Osterholm has a PhD in environmental health, and a MPH in epidemiology, all from the University of Minnesota. That said, his resume overall is quite impressive. Experts can legitimately disagree. I wouldn't necessarily take this guy's expertise over Fauci's. Cindy Hamilton I saw this guy on Meet the Depressed Sunday. He's been on there many times. I was surprised how doom and gloom he was this time on what he claims is coming. He says we are in for a huge surge, the worst is yet to come, due to the new variants. Seemed to me he was going way out on a limb with that prediction, especially when the curve is down about 40% from where it was just a few weeks ago. Seems to me that if we didn't hit epic disaster last month, there is a decent chance that we have hit the peak and it;s not going to get worse than that. But we'll see. And dr. O wasn't saying that we might be headed for the worst part, he said it's a certainty. The "doom and gloom" has been echoed recently by other infectious disease and public health experts. The basis for their concern is that so far in this pandemic, the U.S. experience has usually mirrored the U.K. experience but a number of weeks to months later. Current thinking is that the recent U.S. surge was directly related to year-end holiday travel and celebrations with many people gathering closely who didn't live in the same immediate household. U.S. numbers are now back down to approx. their pre-Thanksgiving level. The U.K. medical care system is overwhelmed right now due to the new U.K. variant of the Covid virus, which is much more contagious than the initial variant. U.S. infectious disease and public health experts predict that the U.K. variant, which is already circulating in the U.S. will become the predominant variant in the U.S. by mid-March and that the U.S. number of infections, hospitalizations, and deaths will all skyrocket unless our population is more compliant with masking, social distancing, hand-washing, and participation in the vaccination program. There is concern about this coming weekend (the Superbowl) spawning multiple super-spreader events. Considering both the Superbowl and the growing penetration of the U.K. variant in the U.S. population, there is great concern about a renewed surge that could be even worse than the one we just endured. Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort. They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. |
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![]() "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 6:43:30 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 5:07:47 PM UTC-5, apollo wrote: Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended? Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ Putting "university" at the beginning of your subject line means nothing. Osterholm has a PhD in environmental health, and a MPH in epidemiology, all from the University of Minnesota. That said, his resume overall is quite impressive. Experts can legitimately disagree. I wouldn't necessarily take this guy's expertise over Fauci's. Cindy Hamilton I saw this guy on Meet the Depressed Sunday. He's been on there many times. I was surprised how doom and gloom he was this time on what he claims is coming. He says we are in for a huge surge, the worst is yet to come, due to the new variants. Seemed to me he was going way out on a limb with that prediction, especially when the curve is down about 40% from where it was just a few weeks ago. Seems to me that if we didn't hit epic disaster last month, there is a decent chance that we have hit the peak and it;s not going to get worse than that. The problem with that line is that there isnt much of the new worse strains in the USA yet. But we'll see. And dr. O wasn't saying that we might be headed for the worst part, he said it's a certainty. Then he is a fool given the vaccination rate. |
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On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 04:49:16 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH troll**** -- Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent: "Ah, the voice of scum speaks." MID: |
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 03:19:34 -0800 (PST),
" wrote: On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 10:20:07 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 2 Feb 2021 12:57:39 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Tuesday, February 2, 2021 at 2:11:36 PM UTC-5, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 2 Feb 2021 09:22:54 -0500, Retirednoguilt wrote: On 2/1/2021 5:07 PM, apollo wrote: Should you wear two masks, as Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently recommended? Not if youre wise, says an infectious disease expert. Epidemiologist Michael Osterholm, a professor at the University of Minnesota and a Biden transition team advisor, made his comments both in an interview with WCCO Radio last week and also on Meet the Press on Sunday. The professor, head of his universitys Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said Faucis recommendation to wear two masks at once to stop viral infections made no epidemiological sense, The College Fix, writes, reporting on Osterholms WCCO appearance. https://thenewamerican.com/universit...ouble-masking/ Citing The New American as a reference source is problematic if you're trying to influence the entire political spectrum of potential readers. See: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-new-american/ Hmmm, "Overall, we rate the New American Right Biased based on story selection that always favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to rejecting the consensus of science and poor sourcing techniques." But why would I want to read anything that might disagree with what I already think? I read for pleasure and that's not pleasure. It takes most kinds. I enjoy reading George Will, even though I often disagree with what he thinks. Cindy Hamilton FWIW, I was sarcastically representing a right-winger. Sarcasm is so difficult to convey on Usenet. True. Some people point out their sarcasm at the time. I apologize, but I think that ruins it. I can't find the quote right now, but it went something like this: "Any position, however extreme or ridiculous, can find an adherent on Usenet." That's true. Or in Congress. Cindy Hamilton |
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On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:
Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. -- Maggie |
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On 04/02/2021 17:58, Muggles wrote:
On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Quite frankly, Muggles, you say ridiculous things. |
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![]() "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort. They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. |
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On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 05:34:38 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread -- Kerr-Mudd,John addressing the auto-contradicting senile cretin: "Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)" MID: |
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On 2/4/2021 12:20 PM, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 17:58, Muggles wrote: On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Quite frankly, Muggles, you say ridiculous things. Who have you prevented from catching a virus? -- Maggie |
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On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
"Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? -- Maggie |
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![]() "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:20 PM, Bod wrote: On 04/02/2021 17:58, Muggles wrote: On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort. They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Quite frankly, Muggles, you say ridiculous things. Who have you prevented from catching a virus? My kids, because they were vaccinated, stupid. |
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![]() "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort. They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? All those parents who had enough of a clue to vaccinate their kids so they didnt get smallpox, polio, influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. |
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On 2/4/2021 7:00 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/4/2021 12:20 PM, Bod wrote: On 04/02/2021 17:58, Muggles wrote: On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Quite frankly, Muggles, you say ridiculous things. Who have you prevented from catching a virus? Many. When I have a contagious virus I stay home and do not infect others. Pretty simple concept has been around for years. Precautions help. Distance, masks, etc. Probably your mother told you not to cough or sneeze on others. That is a start. |
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On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 11:37:25 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: My kids, because they were vaccinated, stupid. Those imaginary "kids" who refuse to contact and talk to you, you lonely sleepless senile cantankerous cretin? LMAO -- Marland addressing senile Rodent's tall stories: "Do you really think people believe your stories you come up with to boost your self esteem." Message-ID: |
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On 2/4/2021 6:37 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
"Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:20 PM, Bod wrote: On 04/02/2021 17:58, Muggles wrote: On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Quite frankly, Muggles, you say ridiculous things. Who have you prevented from catching a virus? My kids, because they were vaccinated, stupid. How do you know the vaccine has no side effects that will endanger them? -- Maggie |
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On 2/4/2021 6:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
"Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? All those parents who had enough of a clue to vaccinate their kids so they didnt get smallpox, polio, influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. Those vaccines were TESTED and thoroughly vetted, which includes learning the major side effects, too. Try again. These vaccines have NOT been thoroughly tested. -- Maggie |
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On 2/4/2021 7:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/4/2021 7:00 PM, Muggles wrote: On 2/4/2021 12:20 PM, Bod wrote: On 04/02/2021 17:58, Muggles wrote: On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Quite frankly, Muggles, you say ridiculous things. Who have you prevented from catching a virus? Many.* When I have a contagious virus I stay home and do not infect others.* Pretty simple concept has been around for years.* Precautions help. Distance, masks, etc. How does you staying home prevent anyone from catching a virus? You could have spread it before you knew you were sick. Isn't that one argument in favor of masks? Probably your mother told you not to cough or sneeze on others.* That is a start. Not coughing or sneezing on others doesn't prevent one person from getting sick. Those people around you are still exposed. -- Maggie |
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On 2/5/2021 12:39 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/4/2021 6:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? All those parents who had enough of a clue to vaccinate their kids so they didnt get smallpox, polio, influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. Those vaccines were TESTED and thoroughly vetted, which includes learning the major side effects, too. Try again.** These vaccines have NOT been thoroughly tested. I'd think 43,000 people is a pretty good test. Its not like they got a free pass after 10 people. This is just one company https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54873105 Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised. |
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On 2/5/2021 12:10 PM, Heywood wrote:
On 2/5/2021 12:39 PM, Muggles wrote: On 2/4/2021 6:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? All those parents who had enough of a clue to vaccinate their kids so they didnt get smallpox, polio, influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. Those vaccines were TESTED and thoroughly vetted, which includes learning the major side effects, too. Try again.** These vaccines have NOT been thoroughly tested. I'd think 43,000 people is a pretty good test.* Its not like they got a free pass after 10 people. If it's a 'pretty good test' to give an unvetted vaccine with unknown side effects to the general population, then why aren't other vaccines produced with testing done on the general population? This is just one company https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54873105 Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised. Thats 43K+ guinea pigs. -- Maggie |
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On 05/02/2021 18:38, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 12:10 PM, Heywood wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:39 PM, Muggles wrote: On 2/4/2021 6:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? All those parents who had enough of a clue to vaccinate their kids so they didnt get smallpox, polio, influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. Those vaccines were TESTED and thoroughly vetted, which includes learning the major side effects, too. Try again.** These vaccines have NOT been thoroughly tested. I'd think 43,000 people is a pretty good test.* Its not like they got a free pass after 10 people. If it's a 'pretty good test' to give an unvetted vaccine with unknown side effects to the general population, then why aren't other vaccines produced with testing done on the general population? This is just one company https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54873105 Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised. Thats 43K+ guinea pigs. Correct "and NO safety concerns have been raised" |
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On 2/5/2021 12:40 PM, Bod wrote:
On 05/02/2021 18:38, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:10 PM, Heywood wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:39 PM, Muggles wrote: On 2/4/2021 6:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? All those parents who had enough of a clue to vaccinate their kids so they didnt get smallpox, polio, influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. Those vaccines were TESTED and thoroughly vetted, which includes learning the major side effects, too. Try again.** These vaccines have NOT been thoroughly tested. I'd think 43,000 people is a pretty good test.* Its not like they got a free pass after 10 people. If it's a 'pretty good test' to give an unvetted vaccine with unknown side effects to the general population, then why aren't other vaccines produced with testing done on the general population? This is just one company https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54873105 Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised. Thats 43K+ guinea pigs. Correct "and NO safety concerns have been raised" HAHAHA! Thousands of people have safety concerns! -- Maggie |
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On 05/02/2021 18:40, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 12:40 PM, Bod wrote: On 05/02/2021 18:38, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:10 PM, Heywood wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:39 PM, Muggles wrote: On 2/4/2021 6:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? All those parents who had enough of a clue to vaccinate their kids so they didnt get smallpox, polio, influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. Those vaccines were TESTED and thoroughly vetted, which includes learning the major side effects, too. Try again.** These vaccines have NOT been thoroughly tested. I'd think 43,000 people is a pretty good test.* Its not like they got a free pass after 10 people. If it's a 'pretty good test' to give an unvetted vaccine with unknown side effects to the general population, then why aren't other vaccines produced with testing done on the general population? This is just one company https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54873105 Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised. Thats 43K+ guinea pigs. Correct "and NO safety concerns have been raised" HAHAHA! Thousands of people have safety concerns! There's no reasoning with you. |
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On 2/5/2021 1:38 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 2/5/2021 12:10 PM, Heywood wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:39 PM, Muggles wrote: On 2/4/2021 6:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort.* They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? All those parents who had enough of a clue to vaccinate their kids so they didnt get smallpox, polio, influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. Those vaccines were TESTED and thoroughly vetted, which includes learning the major side effects, too. Try again.** These vaccines have NOT been thoroughly tested. I'd think 43,000 people is a pretty good test.* Its not like they got a free pass after 10 people. If it's a 'pretty good test' to give an unvetted vaccine with unknown side effects to the general population, then why aren't other vaccines produced with testing done on the general population? This is just one company https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54873105 Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised. Thats 43K+ guinea pigs. True, but it proved they work with minimal side effects. What else do you want them to do? |
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![]() "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 6:37 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:20 PM, Bod wrote: On 04/02/2021 17:58, Muggles wrote: On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort. They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Quite frankly, Muggles, you say ridiculous things. Who have you prevented from catching a virus? My kids, because they were vaccinated, stupid. How do you know the vaccine has no side effects that will endanger them? Because billions have been vaccinated and there have been no side effects that have endangered anyone with the vaccinations they got. |
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![]() "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 6:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort. They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? All those parents who had enough of a clue to vaccinate their kids so they didnt get smallpox, polio, influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. Those vaccines were TESTED So have the vaccines for this virus. and thoroughly vetted, So have the vaccines for this virus. which includes learning the major side effects, too. So have the vaccines for this virus. These vaccines have NOT been thoroughly tested. Another bare faced lie. Its being tested with tens of millions already having been vaccinated now too. |
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![]() "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 7:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/4/2021 7:00 PM, Muggles wrote: On 2/4/2021 12:20 PM, Bod wrote: On 04/02/2021 17:58, Muggles wrote: On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort. They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Quite frankly, Muggles, you say ridiculous things. Who have you prevented from catching a virus? Many. When I have a contagious virus I stay home and do not infect others. Pretty simple concept has been around for years. Precautions help. Distance, masks, etc. How does you staying home prevent anyone from catching a virus? By ensuring that you dont get infected and so cant infect anyone else. You could have spread it before you knew you were sick. Not if you stay home you cant. Isn't that one argument in favor of masks? They are always worse than staying home, stupid. Probably your mother told you not to cough or sneeze on others. That is a start. Bet he mother was too stupid for that. Not coughing or sneezing on others doesn't prevent one person from getting sick. It does drastically reduce the risk of that. Those people around you are still exposed. But much less. |
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![]() "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/5/2021 12:10 PM, Heywood wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:39 PM, Muggles wrote: On 2/4/2021 6:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort. They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? All those parents who had enough of a clue to vaccinate their kids so they didnt get smallpox, polio, influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. Those vaccines were TESTED and thoroughly vetted, which includes learning the major side effects, too. Try again. These vaccines have NOT been thoroughly tested. I'd think 43,000 people is a pretty good test. Its not like they got a free pass after 10 people. If it's a 'pretty good test' to give an unvetted vaccine It isnt unvetted, thats the vetting, ****wit. with unknown side effects The side effects are know because of that vetting, ****wit. to the general population, then why aren't other vaccines produced with testing done on the general population? That hasnt happened with these vaccines, ****wit. This is just one company https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54873105 Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised. Thats 43K+ guinea pigs. Thats what any vetting is, ****wit. They are ALL volunteers. |
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![]() "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/5/2021 12:40 PM, Bod wrote: On 05/02/2021 18:38, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:10 PM, Heywood wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:39 PM, Muggles wrote: On 2/4/2021 6:38 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/4/2021 12:34 PM, Rod Speed wrote: "Muggles" wrote in message ... On 2/3/2021 11:23 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote: Recent epidemiologic data shows that the group most responsible for spread of the infection is the 20-49 year old cohort. They probably feel that they are much less likely to experience serious or fatal outcomes than those older (true), but fail to appreciate that they are the group most likely to give a serious or fatal case to their older friends, co-workers, and relatives. There's no way to stop or prevent anyone from catching a virus. Must be why we didnt stamp out smallpox, polio and drastically controlled influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. So, provide the evidence that one person prevented another person from catching a virus? All those parents who had enough of a clue to vaccinate their kids so they didnt get smallpox, polio, influenza, measles, mumps etc etc etc. Those vaccines were TESTED and thoroughly vetted, which includes learning the major side effects, too. Try again. These vaccines have NOT been thoroughly tested. I'd think 43,000 people is a pretty good test. Its not like they got a free pass after 10 people. If it's a 'pretty good test' to give an unvetted vaccine with unknown side effects to the general population, then why aren't other vaccines produced with testing done on the general population? This is just one company https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54873105 Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised. Thats 43K+ guinea pigs. Correct "and NO safety concerns have been raised" HAHAHA! Thousands of people have safety concerns! Only the fools like you. That quote means that no safety issues were OBSERVED. |
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On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 09:02:53 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread |
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On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 09:55:24 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread Get the **** out of ngs meant for humans only, you subnormal senile trolling piece of ****! -- "Who or What is Rod Speed? Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard man" on the InterNet." https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...d-faq.2973853/ |
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On 2/5/2021 12:45 PM, Bod wrote:
On 05/02/2021 18:40, Muggles wrote: On 2/5/2021 12:40 PM, Bod wrote: Their vaccine has been tested on 43,500 people in six countries and no safety concerns have been raised. Thats 43K+ guinea pigs. Correct "and NO safety concerns have been raised" HAHAHA! Thousands of people have safety concerns! There's no reasoning with you. You think reasoning means I suddenly agree with you. Silly man. -- Maggie |
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