Our pool is being installed soon and I want to put in an outdoor shower. My question is, if the water lines will be turned off inside the house (PEX)for winter month and shower head left turned on, do I need to bury the PEX below the frost line? Thanks for any input!

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:04:09 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Our pool is being installed soon and I want to put in an outdoor shower. My question is, if the water lines will be turned off inside the house (PEX)for winter month and shower head left turned on, do I need to bury the PEX below the frost line? Thanks for any input!

My two cents, the pex pipe won't be damaged by freezing, but any fittings subject to freezing might crack. As would shower valves, faucets, anything that has water left in it. One sure solution is to add a valve and air hose fitting after the shut off at the house and use an air compressor to blow it out. Or maybe a drain valve or plug at the lowest point at the shower.

On 4/17/2020 4:04 PM, wrote:
Our pool is being installed soon and I want to put in an outdoor shower. My question is, if the water lines will be turned off inside the house (PEX)for winter month and shower head left turned on, do I need to bury the PEX below the frost line? Thanks for any input!


What you're saying is the PEX lines will be fed from the home and the
shutoff valves will be in the homes as well? Regardless, water can still
remain in the lines, freeze and expand in winter and crack the lines.
Also, PEX can deteriorate in the presence of ultraviolet rays when
exposed to the sun. It is recommended to bury the lines.

I will bury them for sure... probably a foot deep with sand around it to protect it. I didn't realize an air hose fitting existed so I will def go that route. Shut off in the house, buried a foot down with sand around the lines, and a blow out valve in the house... that should do me up

Thank you!

On 4/17/20 4:10 PM, wrote:
I will bury them for sure... probably a foot deep with sand around it to protect it. I didn't realize an air hose fitting existed so I will def go that route. Shut off in the house, buried a foot down with sand around the lines, and a blow out valve in the house... that should do me up

Thank you!

I'd suggest burying them below frost line even with the air hose
route suggested by T4. What if you forget to blow them out or can't
for some odd reason?

On 4/17/20 4:04 PM, wrote:
Our pool is being installed soon and I want to put in an outdoor shower. My question is, if the water lines will be turned off inside the house (PEX)for winter month and shower head left turned on, do I need to bury the PEX below the frost line? Thanks for any input!

Depends on whether or not you mind the pipes bursting when you forget to
turn off the water or there's a real early freeze ;-)

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On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:10:17 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I will bury them for sure... probably a foot deep with sand around it to protect it. I didn't realize an air hose fitting existed so I will def go that route. Shut off in the house, buried a foot down with sand around the lines, and a blow out valve in the house... that should do me up

Thank you!

You can get air hose couplers, male and female for a few bucks at Harbor Freight
if there is one near you. Auto supply, HD, etc should have them too.
That's what I did with my lawn sprinklers, put a male fitting and water valve
on it. In the Fall I just roll the compressor over.

On 4/17/2020 6:16 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:
On 4/17/20 4:04 PM, wrote:
Our pool is being installed soon and I want to put in an outdoor
shower.Â* My question is, if the water lines will be turned off inside
the house (PEX)for winter month and shower head left turned on, do I
need to bury the PEX below the frost line? Thanks for any input!

Depends on whether or not you mind the pipes bursting when you forget to
turn off the water or there's a real early freeze ;-)


I've heard that PEX can sometimes take a freeze but on a long time
installation, sooner or later it will crack. Not worth the risk.

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:05:08 -0400, Hawk wrote:

On 4/17/2020 4:04 PM, wrote:
Our pool is being installed soon and I want to put in an outdoor shower. My question is, if the water lines will be turned off inside the house (PEX)for winter month and shower head left turned on, do I need to bury the PEX below the frost line? Thanks for any input!


What you're saying is the PEX lines will be fed from the home and the
shutoff valves will be in the homes as well? Regardless, water can still
remain in the lines, freeze and expand in winter and crack the lines.
Also, PEX can deteriorate in the presence of ultraviolet rays when
exposed to the sun. It is recommended to bury the lines.
If you "blow" the lines you don't NEED to go below frost line, but if
you forget you may be digging next spring - - -

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 18:16:54 -0400, Wade Garrett
wrote:

On 4/17/20 4:04 PM, wrote:
Our pool is being installed soon and I want to put in an outdoor shower. My question is, if the water lines will be turned off inside the house (PEX)for winter month and shower head left turned on, do I need to bury the PEX below the frost line? Thanks for any input!

Depends on whether or not you mind the pipes bursting when you forget to
turn off the water or there's a real early freeze ;-)
An early freeze won't hit a foot down - but forgetting is always a
possibility.

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:01:30 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:10:17 PM UTC-4, wrote:
I will bury them for sure... probably a foot deep with sand around it to protect it. I didn't realize an air hose fitting existed so I will def go that route. Shut off in the house, buried a foot down with sand around the lines, and a blow out valve in the house... that should do me up

Thank you!

You can get air hose couplers, male and female for a few bucks at Harbor Freight
if there is one near you. Auto supply, HD, etc should have them too.
That's what I did with my lawn sprinklers, put a male fitting and water valve
on it. In the Fall I just roll the compressor over.

You can blow out lines like that with a shop vac if you don't have a
compressor.

On 4/17/2020 4:04 PM, wrote:
Our pool is being installed soon and I want to put in an outdoor shower. My question is, if the water lines will be turned off inside the house (PEX)for winter month and shower head left turned on, do I need to bury the PEX below the frost line? Thanks for any input!

You say "winter month"; does that mean month or months? Anyway, if you
can design the run to the shower with a low point drain, you may be able
to get away without a compressor, etc.

Outdoor months... like 6 of them lol I need to just not be lazy and dig the damn hole

On 4/18/20 7:49 AM, wrote:
Outdoor months... like 6 of them lol I need to just not be lazy and dig the damn hole

Exercise supposedly helps fend off the Covid 19 thing.

trader_4 writes:
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:04:09 PM UTC-4, wrote=
:
Our pool is being installed soon and I want to put in an outdoor shower. =
My question is, if the water lines will be turned off inside the house (PE=
X)for winter month and shower head left turned on, do I need to bury the PE=
X below the frost line? Thanks for any input!

My two cents, the pex pipe won't be damaged by freezing, but any fittings s=

The pex can certainly break if it has water in it when it freezes. BTDT.

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 18 Apr 2020 07:53:10 -0500, Dean Hoffman
wrote:

On 4/18/20 7:49 AM, wrote:
Outdoor months... like 6 of them lol I need to just not be lazy and dig the damn hole

Exercise supposedly helps fend off the Covid 19 thing.

I've heard that's not true. Aiui,

Being healthy may get one's through the sickness, but won't keep you
from catching it.

Bruce, is the water pipe coming from, starting from a basement, or any
place that is below ground? They make valves for copper pipe and
probably for PEX that include a drain. When you're in the basement you
turn off the water, next time you're outside, you turn on the shower,
and next time you're in the basement, you open the little knob on the
valve and the water comes out . Of course you have to have something to
catch the water. Without knowing how far away the shower is, how high it
is, and how big the pipe, I don't know how much that would be.