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This is just one easy way to use Windows, Linux, and iOS together, to
quickly and easily watch a YouTube DIY at a location that has no Internet.

1. On Windows, I downloaded the desired YouTube DIY:
youtubedl https://youtu.be/Ve-kcKxbXx4

2. It's easy to transfer files into VLC over USB on dual-boot Linux:
http://i.cubeupload.com/360Laq.jpg

That's it. Now the video was on iOS playable where there is no Internet.
http://i.cubeupload.com/CuxNtP.jpg

A. I bought the tools at Harbor Freight & the speakers at Fryes:
http://i.cubeupload.com/GtSVFI.jpg

B. I followed the YouTube DIY in VLC, step by step:
http://i.cubeupload.com/IDheqM.jpg

C. I removed the decrepit Toyota OEM 20W $300 Panasonic speakers:
http://i.cubeupload.com/CweFrP.jpg

D. I had to drill holes to fit the 450W Blaupunkt 3-way speakers:
http://i.cubeupload.com/6ugHnx.jpg

E. Everything else but the holes fit perfectly back into place:
http://i.cubeupload.com/rczDpa.jpg

The only catch is that it's amazing that something as common as a 6x9" oval
speaker requires holes to be drilled in the rear deck given that these
things should simply be standard.
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On 4/15/18 8:38 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
This is just one easy way to use Windows, Linux, and iOS
together, to quickly and easily watch a YouTube DIY at a
location that has no Internet.


Go peddle your **** somewhere else.


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On 4/15/18 11:12 PM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Sun, 15 Apr 2018 20:51:24 -0500, schrieb Fox's Mercantile:

Go peddle your **** somewhere else.


Hi Snit (aka Fox's Mercantile),


Do you masturbate at night dreaming of me being Snit?


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Am Mon, 16 Apr 2018 02:22:08 -0700 (PDT), schrieb :

I'm pretty sure if you put 450W through one of those
speaker's it'd glow dull red.


I've seen Jeff Liebermann's responses to questions of how manufacturers'
lie about specs, where he has personally doublechecked things like claimed
wattage on radios.

But what's amazing is that a pair of $300 Panasonic 20W paper-cone one-way
speakers sells at Toyota, when these $30 Blaupunkt 450W (claimed) speakers
are clearly better made.

The magnets alone weight a ton compared to the flyweight Panasonics -
although I don't think there is a spec on magnet heft. (What does the
magnet heft mean, in terms of specs, when the difference is striking
between two speakers?)

Also the paper of the $300 Panasonic cone is brittle and subject to sun
degradation, while the $30 Blaupunkt was presumably more sunlight resistant
rubber & foam.

But to your point on wattage, the head unit remained which likely was not
capable of outputting more than 20 watts RMS anyway - so there's no chance
that the $30 Blaupunkt speakers will be carrying more than that.

One question I have is why don't they make speaker holes standard for
standard-sized speakers? The other question is about that magnet.

If there were two same-sized speakers, one with a huge magnet and another
with a puny magnet, what does that mean in terms of likely performance spec
differences?
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On 4/16/18 8:53 AM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
That you stalk me, Snit, is enough for us to wonder about your
masturbation fantasies, not mine.


You are obviously obsessed with the idea that I'm Snit.
I hate to break the news to you Bunky, I ain't Snit.



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On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 10:05:24 AM UTC-4, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 02:38:09 +0100, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

This is just one easy way to use Windows, Linux, and iOS together, to
quickly and easily watch a YouTube DIY at a location that has no Internet.

1. On Windows, I downloaded the desired YouTube DIY:
youtubedl https://youtu.be/Ve-kcKxbXx4

2. It's easy to transfer files into VLC over USB on dual-boot Linux:
http://i.cubeupload.com/360Laq.jpg

That's it. Now the video was on iOS playable where there is no Internet.
http://i.cubeupload.com/CuxNtP.jpg

A. I bought the tools at Harbor Freight & the speakers at Fryes:
http://i.cubeupload.com/GtSVFI.jpg

B. I followed the YouTube DIY in VLC, step by step:
http://i.cubeupload.com/IDheqM.jpg

C. I removed the decrepit Toyota OEM 20W $300 Panasonic speakers:
http://i.cubeupload.com/CweFrP.jpg

D. I had to drill holes to fit the 450W Blaupunkt 3-way speakers:
http://i.cubeupload.com/6ugHnx.jpg

E. Everything else but the holes fit perfectly back into place:
http://i.cubeupload.com/rczDpa.jpg

The only catch is that it's amazing that something as common as a 6x9" oval
speaker requires holes to be drilled in the rear deck given that these
things should simply be standard.


Why not use a Windows based tablet instead of ****ing about converting it to Apple's ****ed up language?

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I'd just watch the video on a PC in my house, then go out and work on the
car and if necessary come back and watch again. It's putting in a speaker,
not rebuilding the engine. If I wanted to do it right at the car, I'd
use my smartphone on the cell network.
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On 4/16/18 10:02 AM, wrote:
The Troll is back.

Please do not feed the troll (You, too, Jeff).


But he ain't housebroke yet.
Like a recalcitrant puppy, he needs his nose rubbed in his
own **** until he learns.


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On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 10:52:00 AM UTC-4, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:31:55 +0100, trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 10:05:24 AM UTC-4, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 02:38:09 +0100, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

This is just one easy way to use Windows, Linux, and iOS together, to
quickly and easily watch a YouTube DIY at a location that has no Internet.

1. On Windows, I downloaded the desired YouTube DIY:
youtubedl https://youtu.be/Ve-kcKxbXx4

2. It's easy to transfer files into VLC over USB on dual-boot Linux:
http://i.cubeupload.com/360Laq.jpg

That's it. Now the video was on iOS playable where there is no Internet.
http://i.cubeupload.com/CuxNtP.jpg

A. I bought the tools at Harbor Freight & the speakers at Fryes:
http://i.cubeupload.com/GtSVFI.jpg

B. I followed the YouTube DIY in VLC, step by step:
http://i.cubeupload.com/IDheqM.jpg

C. I removed the decrepit Toyota OEM 20W $300 Panasonic speakers:
http://i.cubeupload.com/CweFrP.jpg

D. I had to drill holes to fit the 450W Blaupunkt 3-way speakers:
http://i.cubeupload.com/6ugHnx.jpg

E. Everything else but the holes fit perfectly back into place:
http://i.cubeupload.com/rczDpa.jpg

The only catch is that it's amazing that something as common as a 6x9" oval
speaker requires holes to be drilled in the rear deck given that these
things should simply be standard.

Why not use a Windows based tablet instead of ****ing about converting it to Apple's ****ed up language?


I'd just watch the video on a PC in my house, then go out and work on the
car and if necessary come back and watch again. It's putting in a speaker,
not rebuilding the engine. If I wanted to do it right at the car, I'd
use my smartphone on the cell network.


I fail to see why anyone would need a instructions to fit a speaker. If you're that useless, you'd be getting a shop to do it for you.

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It leaves your groin unprotected.



Sure, if it's very obvious how it comes apart. But many times, when working
on cars, it's not at all clear how things are put together, what hidden
fasteners are involved, how trim pieces come off, etc. You can spend hours
of aggravation, trial and error, or you can watch a youtube video for 15 mins
and know exactly what's involved and do it faster, using the
experience of someone who's actually done it. The choice is yours.
I've found videos extremely useful, taking a door panel off is an
excellent example.
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On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 11:22:11 AM UTC-4, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:20:21 +0100, trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 10:52:00 AM UTC-4, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:31:55 +0100, trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 10:05:24 AM UTC-4, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 02:38:09 +0100, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:

This is just one easy way to use Windows, Linux, and iOS together, to
quickly and easily watch a YouTube DIY at a location that has no Internet.

1. On Windows, I downloaded the desired YouTube DIY:
youtubedl https://youtu.be/Ve-kcKxbXx4

2. It's easy to transfer files into VLC over USB on dual-boot Linux:
http://i.cubeupload.com/360Laq.jpg

That's it. Now the video was on iOS playable where there is no Internet.
http://i.cubeupload.com/CuxNtP.jpg

A. I bought the tools at Harbor Freight & the speakers at Fryes:
http://i.cubeupload.com/GtSVFI.jpg

B. I followed the YouTube DIY in VLC, step by step:
http://i.cubeupload.com/IDheqM.jpg

C. I removed the decrepit Toyota OEM 20W $300 Panasonic speakers:
http://i.cubeupload.com/CweFrP.jpg

D. I had to drill holes to fit the 450W Blaupunkt 3-way speakers:
http://i.cubeupload.com/6ugHnx.jpg

E. Everything else but the holes fit perfectly back into place:
http://i.cubeupload.com/rczDpa.jpg

The only catch is that it's amazing that something as common as a 6x9" oval
speaker requires holes to be drilled in the rear deck given that these
things should simply be standard.

Why not use a Windows based tablet instead of ****ing about converting it to Apple's ****ed up language?

I'd just watch the video on a PC in my house, then go out and work on the
car and if necessary come back and watch again. It's putting in a speaker,
not rebuilding the engine. If I wanted to do it right at the car, I'd
use my smartphone on the cell network.

I fail to see why anyone would need a instructions to fit a speaker. If you're that useless, you'd be getting a shop to do it for you.

--
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It leaves your groin unprotected.



Sure, if it's very obvious how it comes apart. But many times, when working
on cars, it's not at all clear how things are put together, what hidden
fasteners are involved, how trim pieces come off, etc. You can spend hours
of aggravation, trial and error, or you can watch a youtube video for 15 mins
and know exactly what's involved and do it faster, using the
experience of someone who's actually done it. The choice is yours.
I've found videos extremely useful, taking a door panel off is an
excellent example.


I've never had a problem with anything that simple. Finding a clip is easy, it's the point that's holding it on.

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Zoo Keeper - "That's a kangaroo, madam. a native of Australia,"
Old Lady - "Oh, my god! My sister married one of them!"


Yet in the other thread, you're worried about how far a clay pipe can
go unsupported. Many would consider that simple. And finding a "clip"
when it comes to removing a speaker isn't what it's all about. Most
times you can't see a clip or anything from the start. We had a thread
here a month ago where a guy was having difficulty removing a speaker
even after a lot of trial and error. Many times, what you think is
obvious, just ain't so. But like I said, feel free to screw around,
wander in the wilderness and eschew easily available free video resources
that make jobs easy.
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Am Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:05:15 +0100, schrieb James Wilkinson Sword:

Why not use a Windows based tablet instead of ****ing
about converting it to Apple's ****ed up language?


If you can improve on this question, let us know:
*Q: How would you download this video to watch offline on an iOS device?*
https://youtu.be/Ve-kcKxbXx4

You bring up a good point, which is that the iOS tablet is the hardest type
of tablet to get to work in the real world with other operating systems.

I have an android tablet, where it's so easy to download any movie
*directly* to the tablet, that it's not funny. Almost nobody knows this
trick, but all you need to do, on Android tablets, is install the F-Droid
(don't use the Google Play app which is a knock off with ads!) free ad-free
YouTube Red clone named "New Pipe". That app is so wonderful that you'll
never use YouTube ever again, since it's YouTube on steroids, without any
ads ever, and where it can download any video or audio.

So I didn't mention Android because it's just too easy.

I don't have a Windows tablet, so I was showing folks how to do it on iOS
since iOS is always a thousand times harder than Android is due to its
walled garden nature (as everyone is already aware).

BTW, Linux and Windows plays so nicely together that it was also a no
brainer.

Linux, for example, reads beautifully the entire Windows file system (well,
except for the tricky stuff Windows just added in the February Win10 where
they secretly modified the NTFS, e.g., the wuaueng.dll file as one
example).

Given that Windows does Youtube downloads beautifully, and that Linux sees
the entire Windows disk, and that Linux plays far nicer with an iOS device
than does Windows sans the iTunes abomination, that's why I used the system
that I used. (Because it's the best of all worlds.)
http://i.cubeupload.com/6MxqLo.jpg

So, while on Android I would have just searched, viewed, played, stripped
audio, and downloaded video using the same NewPipe app, the iOS device
necessitated a multi-step but still trivially simple process of...

1. On Windows, I downloaded the video using the extremely powerful and
super flexible command-line youtubedl.exe app.

2. Booting to Linux, I already had the results (since Linux sees Windows
perfectly), and then connected the iPad, and since Linux sees iPads better
than does Windows, I slid the file over into the VLC space on the iPad to
play it there.

If you know of a *better* way to do those two tasks, assuming the
constraint of only open-source freeware, then let us all know as we'd all
benefit from the technical expertise.

If you can improve on this question, let us know:
*Q: How would you download this video to watch offline on an iOS device?*
https://youtu.be/Ve-kcKxbXx4


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On 4/16/18 11:27 AM, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:08:19 -0500, schrieb Fox's Mercantile:

You are obviously obsessed with the idea that I'm Snit.
I hate to break the news to you Bunky, I ain't Snit.


Then why do you puppy-dog follow me around the net, just like
you did as Snit


I hate to break it to you, but Snit ain't the only one that thinks
you're a worthless troll spewing your stupid **** non-stop.
But keep calling me Snit if that's what makes your pitiful excuse
of a dick hard.

Glad to see you enjoy being told you're a moron.
Maybe you'll just shut the **** up and go away.

And I keep re-including your original cross-posted groups because
I'm sure they're enjoying watching you getting your nose rubbed in
your own **** repeatedly.

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On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 12:27:55 PM UTC-4, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Mon, 16 Apr 2018 15:05:15 +0100, schrieb James Wilkinson Sword:

Why not use a Windows based tablet instead of ****ing
about converting it to Apple's ****ed up language?


If you can improve on this question, let us know:
*Q: How would you download this video to watch offline on an iOS device?*
https://youtu.be/Ve-kcKxbXx4

You bring up a good point, which is that the iOS tablet is the hardest type
of tablet to get to work in the real world with other operating systems.

I have an android tablet, where it's so easy to download any movie
*directly* to the tablet, that it's not funny. Almost nobody knows this
trick, but all you need to do, on Android tablets, is install the F-Droid
(don't use the Google Play app which is a knock off with ads!) free ad-free
YouTube Red clone named "New Pipe". That app is so wonderful that you'll
never use YouTube ever again, since it's YouTube on steroids, without any
ads ever, and where it can download any video or audio.

So I didn't mention Android because it's just too easy.

I don't have a Windows tablet, so I was showing folks how to do it on iOS
since iOS is always a thousand times harder than Android is due to its
walled garden nature (as everyone is already aware).

BTW, Linux and Windows plays so nicely together that it was also a no
brainer.

Linux, for example, reads beautifully the entire Windows file system (well,
except for the tricky stuff Windows just added in the February Win10 where
they secretly modified the NTFS, e.g., the wuaueng.dll file as one
example).

Given that Windows does Youtube downloads beautifully, and that Linux sees
the entire Windows disk, and that Linux plays far nicer with an iOS device
than does Windows sans the iTunes abomination, that's why I used the system
that I used. (Because it's the best of all worlds.)
http://i.cubeupload.com/6MxqLo.jpg

So, while on Android I would have just searched, viewed, played, stripped
audio, and downloaded video using the same NewPipe app, the iOS device
necessitated a multi-step but still trivially simple process of...

1. On Windows, I downloaded the video using the extremely powerful and
super flexible command-line youtubedl.exe app.

2. Booting to Linux, I already had the results (since Linux sees Windows
perfectly), and then connected the iPad, and since Linux sees iPads better
than does Windows, I slid the file over into the VLC space on the iPad to
play it there.

If you know of a *better* way to do those two tasks, assuming the
constraint of only open-source freeware, then let us all know as we'd all
benefit from the technical expertise.

If you can improve on this question, let us know:
*Q: How would you download this video to watch offline on an iOS device?*
https://youtu.be/Ve-kcKxbXx4


It's really quite amazing that with this Apple crap that people pay huge
premiums for, you can't just directly download a freaking Youtube video?
WTF? Isn't there a Youtube app for ios that allows that? WTF?

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I'd just watch the video on a PC in my house, then go out and work on the
car and if necessary come back and watch again. It's putting in a speaker,
not rebuilding the engine. If I wanted to do it right at the car, I'd
use my smartphone on the cell network.


These senile Yankietards just can't resist the unwashed Scottish ******'s
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Sure, if it's very obvious how it comes apart. But many times, when working
on cars, it's not at all clear how things are put together,


You obviously never needed any instructions unzipping the Scottish ******'s
fly, Yankietard! Seems to come naturally to you senile Yankie idiots.
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Am Mon, 16 Apr 2018 07:31:55 -0700 (PDT), schrieb trader_4:

I'd just watch the video on a PC in my house, then go out and work on the
car and if necessary come back and watch again. It's putting in a speaker,
not rebuilding the engine. If I wanted to do it right at the car, I'd
use my smartphone on the cell network.


Well, that works but remember, it's not my car, so I'm completely
unfamiliar with everything about the car.

Also remember that I have a lady watching over my shoulder who was the mom
of the girl who was her daughter, helping me, who owned the car ... where
you know, as I know, that breaking things like those dastardly clips gets
those kinds of people upset.

Us? We break those clips all the time ... and we remove more parts than
necessary all the time, and we remove fewer than needed all the time, and
we take off parts out of order all the time, etc., where I didn't have the
luxury of experimenting while working on this neighbor's car.

Besides, I could have written it all down, but really, it's just speakers
(as you said) and there were only about fifty or so connectors to unclip or
unscrew, so, that's not all that much to remember (or write down), but why
bother.

I put the kid to good use by having her hold the iPad tablet, and she would
read out the next step and I would do it while she paused it.

That worked out perfectly - but they don't have a router (reminder for me
to buy them a new router as they only use desktops or cellular).

In my case, this use model was perfect:\
a. Mom watched over everything like a hawk (but she did bring refreshments!)
b. Daughter held iPad and told me what step to do next (this kept her busy).
c. I removed the fifty or so bolts and clips & installed the speakers.

When it came time to drill into the rear panel, I sent the mom and daughter
inside asking for them to make more food!

(They would have screamed had they seen me drilling the holes.)


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Am Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:50:59 -0700 (PDT), schrieb trader_4:

It's really quite amazing that with this Apple crap that people pay huge
premiums for, you can't just directly download a freaking Youtube video?
WTF? Isn't there a Youtube app for ios that allows that? WTF?


You bring up a good point, trader_4, which is that what's trivial on
Android is actually impossible (or at least a lot harder) on iOS, but I
play with all operating systems - so I deal with them as they come to me.

So yes, Android does everything iOS does, and then tons and tons and tons
more, while iOS doesn't do even what Android does, and iOS does nothing
that Android doesn't already do.

Hence, I agree that iOS users put up with this Apple crap ... but it is
what it is - and all we can do is deal with it if that's what we have in
our hands.

To always try to add value, on Android, here's what I suggest:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

Be warned that the Google Play knockoffs on New Pipe seem to have taken the
source code and added their advertising crap to that source code and then
remarketed it on Google Play - so I only recommend the F-Droid version but
if you don't want to use F-Droid, the Google Play knockoffs do work and
even they are better than Youtube is.

If we use Android - that's the only app that is needed to download any
video and then play it offline at your leisure (we were working on the car
at the neighbor's house who didn't have a router so we couldn't connect to
their Internet).

To continue to add value, one advantage of Linux over Windows is that Linux
actually works BETTER than Windows with an iOS device. You just connect the
iOS device by USB and slide the files over into the "private space" of the
VLC app and you're done.

On Windows it's slightly more complex because iTunes or the Apple Device
Drivers are needed (IMHO), and that's just not acceptable. At least when I
plug the iOS device into the latest Win10, but without iTunes or Apple
crapware, what shows up is not nearly as much as what shows up on Linux,
and on Linux, it's two way whereas on Windows it's only one way.

Another question I might ask here is why did I have to MODIFY the speaker
drill holes. I realize the simple answer is "you just have to". But Jesus.
It's just a 6x9 oval speaker for heaven's sake. There's nothing in a
speaker which necessitates "special" drill holes.

Why don't they just make speaker holes standard like a billion other things
are standard (e.g., USB or pipe fittings or quick couplers, etc.)?

Also, I didn't realize speakers have a +/- wire. What happens if you
reverse that?

Note though that it's hard to reverse them since both the connection on the
speaker and the harness connector on the car had one wire with a red stripe
and the speaker itself had a plus and minus sign and the terminals on the
speaker were different sizes and the harness connector on the car only
clipped in one direction.

So they did a *lot* of things to ensure that you don't get the wires
crossed.

But what happens if you do cross the wires? (Just curious.)
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Am Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:25:29 -0700 (PDT), schrieb trader_4:

Yet in the other thread, you're worried about how far a clay pipe can
go unsupported. Many would consider that simple. And finding a "clip"
when it comes to removing a speaker isn't what it's all about. Most
times you can't see a clip or anything from the start. We had a thread
here a month ago where a guy was having difficulty removing a speaker
even after a lot of trial and error. Many times, what you think is
obvious, just ain't so. But like I said, feel free to screw around,
wander in the wilderness and eschew easily available free video resources
that make jobs easy.


It's clear that you, trader_4, understand that of the fifty or so bolts and
clips that had to come out, not a single one was visible, where it's not
always obvious how many there are or in which order to remove the dozen or
so pieces of trim and lights and grills and decks and molding and belts and
cushions, etc., that had to be removed in order to just *expose* the
speaker bolts in this kid's vehicle.

Obviously, once the speakers were exposed, the wiring was trivial, which,
even James Wilkinson Sword must note, I didn't say I had any problem with
the physical part of wiring the speakers.

BTW, to add value here, the *great* thing about the physical wiring was
that the positive and negative was so obvious in so many ways that you
couldn't possibly make a mistake.
a. The harness wires were color coded with a red stripe
b. The speaker wires were also color coded with a red stripe
c. The speakers themselves had different sized connectors
d. The harness connection itself only clipped in one way
e. The speakers had a plus and minus symbol

So, the wiring was really easy. I used wire nuts to connect to the harness
connector so that the speakers could be swapped out more easily in the
future.

Routing the wires was also easy as there were pre-fashioned clips and
curved troughs in the back deck, which routed the wires behind the seats to
the hidden harness connectors (none of which was covered in the video but
they were all easy to find since you just follow the wires).

The speaker cutout even had a "well indentation" to get the wires from
underneath (in the trunk) to topside (to connect to the hidden harness clip
behind the back of the seats).

So, as trader_4 astutely noted, the wiring wasn't ever the problem. The
advantage of the video was simply to know where the fifty odd hidden
connections were in the dozen odd upholstery and trim panels that had to be
removed.

Plus, it kept the kid busy whose car it was.
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Yet in the other thread, you're worried about how far a clay pipe can
go unsupported.


He's ONLY worried whether you (and the other senile Yanks on ahr) will
swallow all his baits or not, senile idiot!
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On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 1:30:59 PM UTC-4, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:50:59 -0700 (PDT), schrieb trader_4:

It's really quite amazing that with this Apple crap that people pay huge
premiums for, you can't just directly download a freaking Youtube video?
WTF? Isn't there a Youtube app for ios that allows that? WTF?


You bring up a good point, trader_4, which is that what's trivial on
Android is actually impossible (or at least a lot harder) on iOS, but I
play with all operating systems - so I deal with them as they come to me.

So yes, Android does everything iOS does, and then tons and tons and tons
more, while iOS doesn't do even what Android does, and iOS does nothing
that Android doesn't already do.

Hence, I agree that iOS users put up with this Apple crap ... but it is
what it is - and all we can do is deal with it if that's what we have in
our hands.

To always try to add value, on Android, here's what I suggest:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

Be warned that the Google Play knockoffs on New Pipe seem to have taken the
source code and added their advertising crap to that source code and then
remarketed it on Google Play - so I only recommend the F-Droid version but
if you don't want to use F-Droid, the Google Play knockoffs do work and
even they are better than Youtube is.

If we use Android - that's the only app that is needed to download any
video and then play it offline at your leisure (we were working on the car
at the neighbor's house who didn't have a router so we couldn't connect to
their Internet).

To continue to add value, one advantage of Linux over Windows is that Linux
actually works BETTER than Windows with an iOS device. You just connect the
iOS device by USB and slide the files over into the "private space" of the
VLC app and you're done.

On Windows it's slightly more complex because iTunes or the Apple Device
Drivers are needed (IMHO), and that's just not acceptable. At least when I
plug the iOS device into the latest Win10, but without iTunes or Apple
crapware, what shows up is not nearly as much as what shows up on Linux,
and on Linux, it's two way whereas on Windows it's only one way.

Another question I might ask here is why did I have to MODIFY the speaker
drill holes. I realize the simple answer is "you just have to". But Jesus.
It's just a 6x9 oval speaker for heaven's sake. There's nothing in a
speaker which necessitates "special" drill holes.

Why don't they just make speaker holes standard like a billion other things
are standard (e.g., USB or pipe fittings or quick couplers, etc.)?

Also, I didn't realize speakers have a +/- wire. What happens if you
reverse that?

Note though that it's hard to reverse them since both the connection on the
speaker and the harness connector on the car had one wire with a red stripe
and the speaker itself had a plus and minus sign and the terminals on the
speaker were different sizes and the harness connector on the car only
clipped in one direction.

So they did a *lot* of things to ensure that you don't get the wires
crossed.

But what happens if you do cross the wires? (Just curious.)


Then they are out of phase and as one cone is moving out, the other is moving in. How noticeable it is, idk, but audiophiles would be horrified.


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Then they are out of phase and as one cone is moving out,
the other is moving in. How noticeable it is, idk,
but audiophiles would be horrified.


Makes sense.
Do you think that could damage the speakers?
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Am Tue, 17 Apr 2018 00:15:04 +0100, schrieb James Wilkinson Sword:

I've yet to meet an Apple user with a 3 digit IQ.
They're as bad as people who use Dyson vacuum cleaners or drive Alfa Romeos.


The screenshots were of Linux & iOS and Windows, by the way.
And, I have Android galore.

1. Windows excels at downloading YouTube videos (Linux is good too).
2. Linux excels at read/write access to Android, Windows & iOS drives.
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On 17/04/18 10:26, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 00:24:14 +0100, Clifford Heath
wrote:

On 17/04/18 06:34, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
Am Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:20:55 -0700 (PDT), schrieb :

Then they are out of phase and as one cone is moving out,
the other is moving in. How noticeable it is, idk,
but audiophiles would be* horrified.

Makes sense.
Do you think that could damage the speakers?


If two stereo speakers are out of phase,
they tend to cancel out low frequencies.
You get no bass. The cutoff frequency
depends on how far apart the speakers are.
If they're less than half a wavelength
you get significant cancellation.

Try this: wire two speakers this way,
set your amp to mono, and place the
speakers directly face-to-face. Most
of the sound gets cancelled.


Am I being stupid or shouldn't ALL the sound get cancelled at ANY
frequency if you're sat midway between them?* Imagine you're sat in your
living room and have one speaker 3 metres in front of you and 1 metre to
the left, and the other 3 metres in front of you and 1 metre to the
right.* All sounds come out of the two speakers 180 degrees out of
phase.* Since the distance from the left speaker and the right speaker
to your head is identical, the sounds will still be 180 degrees out of
phase when they reach you.

Since this doesn't happen I can only assume that either:
1) you hear the two out of phase sounds with different ears and your
brain allows for this.
2) reflections off the walls mean you can always hear the sound anyway.

I've often connected speakers both ways round and never been able to
tell one was quieter than the other.

If you were in one of those weird silent rooms (anechoic?) then you
might not hear anything if you wired them up wrong.* I saw a TV program
once where you couldn't hear someone speaking if they faced the other
way, as the sound from their mouth didn't bounce off anything.* I guess
the same would happen if you were floating in mid air, like er....
space, but with air.

Anyway, it doesn't matter, you get precisely the same sound whichever
way you wire them up, I guess something just bounces.


Most of the sound you hear in any room is actually reflections.
Like 70%. So in your setup, you might get cancellation of the
direct sound, but that's only part of what you hear - and the
rest takes various paths that don't cancel.
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Am Tue, 17 Apr 2018 01:13:47 +0100, schrieb James Wilkinson Sword:

1. Windows excels at downloading YouTube videos (Linux is good too).
2. Linux excels at read/write access to Android, Windows & iOS drives.


And iOS excels at nothing.


That's a good point in that there must be _something_ that iOS excels at.
I only have it because I help teach people who use iOS.
Those people *love* iOS, so, iOS must be good at _something_.


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Most of the sound you hear in any room is actually reflections.


Somewhat like you troll-feeding idiots are reflecting the Scottish ******'s
idiocy?
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The screenshots were of Linux & iOS and Windows, by the way.
And, I have Android galore.

1. Windows excels at downloading YouTube videos (Linux is good too).
2. Linux excels at read/write access to Android, Windows & iOS drives.


While the Scottish ****** excels in slinging all you braindead troll-feeding
idiots around at will! LOL
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And iOS excels at nothing.


That's a good point in that there must be _something_ that iOS excels at.
I only have it because I help teach people who use iOS.
Those people *love* iOS, so, iOS must be good at _something_.


After only a short while ALL you troll-feeding idiots start sounding as
retarded as the troll that you keep feeding! Seems to be an inexorable law
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Am Tue, 17 Apr 2018 13:59:09 +0100, schrieb James Wilkinson Sword:

1. Windows excels at downloading YouTube videos (Linux is good too).
2. Linux excels at read/write access to Android, Windows & iOS drives.

And iOS excels at nothing.


That's a good point in that there must be _something_ that iOS excels at.
I only have it because I help teach people who use iOS.
Those people *love* iOS, so, iOS must be good at _something_.


Not necessarily. People can like something for the wrong reasons - advertising, fashion, etc.


That's a good point, where there must be *something* that draws Apple fans
to the iOS devices.

It could be that Apple marketing makes these users "feel" safe?

Dunno.

It could be that Apple marketing makes the user feel "stylish"?

It could be that Apple's walled garden makes people who are willing to be
walled in have way to communicate with each other without having to think
about technicalities?

Dunno.

You tell me.
It must be *something* that draws these people to iOS products.
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Am Tue, 17 Apr 2018 13:14:57 +0100, schrieb James Wilkinson Sword:

Funny, whenever I've fitted speakers (and I've put quite a few
silly large stereos in my cars) I've never encountered more than
about 5 clips per speaker. Just remove one plastic panel and
unscrew the speaker from underneath.


You have an intuitive mind.

Every car is different.


FLUSH all the drivel

Geez ...another troll-feeding who likes to hear himself talking! tsk


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That's a good point, where there must be *something* that draws Apple fans
to the iOS devices.


There MUST be *something* that draws your big gob to the Scottish ******'s
cock, time and again. Maybe it's because he hardly ever washes and never
wears any underwear (by his own account)? BG
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Knowing your posts here, that isn't surprising at all.


Knowing his posts here obviously doesn't stop you from taking all his
idiotic baits anyway! Now THAT goes to show what an idiot you are! LOL
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On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 1:40:05 PM UTC-4, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:


After the car is apart and it won't go on because it's manufactured slightly
off? And then the cheap customer is mad at the shop, accusing them of being
crooks, because the cheap Chinese part they bought on Ebay must be OK.


Why would a customer assume that?


Because there are plenty of cheap, stupid and dishonest customers.
If it's the shop's fault, then they get it redone for free. Duh!





I'd bet a lot of shops have been through that drill before, so they don't
want to do it again. Again, your inexperience shows. I've seen aftermarket
parts that look perfectly fine, but won't go on because they were machined
incorrectly and are off in some critical dimension. Should the shop get
out a micrometer and a reference document and compare all the dimensions
to what they are supposed to be?


All I expect is for them to source parts at sensible price, then I'd use theirs. I've seen them charge FIVE TIMES the Ebay price.


Five times what Ebay price? Let's say it's a BMW. The Ebay price from
a BMW dealer who is selling on Ebay? The price for a reputable, recognized
parts supplier selling the same part made by Lemforder? The price for
the part from a lesser quality aftermarket suppier, like Uro?
Or the price for a no name part from China? There can be and typically
is a big difference in price between a quality part from a recognized supplier and no name Chinese junk.






Or you
put it on and it fails in a month and the cheap customer comes back
blaming the shop.

No, the warranty lies with the supplier they bought it from.


That doesn't stop cheap shysters from coming back to the shop that
put it on and blaming them anyway. I'll just create a scene, scream
loud, let other customers hear me, until the shop gives in. Gee, who
did we just hear saying they use that tactic to get what they want?


The shop can simply inform them it's their faulty part, why are you having difficulty with this simple concept?


Because it's not that simple. You just told us how you stand at a
shop, raise a big argument so that other customers can hear, just so
you can have your way. They told you they won't put on parts that you
supply. That's their right, why are you having difficulty with that
simple concept? So, if you can create a scene over that, so too can
the shyster customer who brings them a crap part and then later claims
it's the shop's fault.





Even if parts are marked as if they were from a
genuine supplier, eg BMW or one of their OEM suppliers, if it came from
Ebay or similar, they are plenty of counterfeit goods on there.
So, I have sympathy for shops that may insist on only dealing with parts
they supply.

Those shops don't get my custom.

On the topic of mobile phones:
Anything bigger than 4 inches is getting into the region where most people would have difficulty holding and using the device comfortably -- Callum Kerr, 2013.

I have an Android with a 6" screen and have no problem holding it
comfortably. I did have some concern prior to buying it, so I cut out
a piece of cardboard box the size of the phone to try it. Decided it
was OK and have no regrets. I have a good size screen I can see.
May not be able to get another one though, Trump is now at war with
ZTE and I see something about him embargoing them.

I use the internet on a 20" screen desktop (plus three other screens), I can't understand people using phone for anything other than calls or texts.


Knowing your posts here, that isn't surprising at all.


Be more specific. Why do you think it's a good idea to use 20 inches worth of web page on a minute little screen and try to type on a keyboard smaller than a child's fingers?


Because you can do it on a smartphone that fits in your pocket and that
you can easily take with you, as opposed to a PC or tablet. Got it now?
Sure the screen isn't as big, but it works perfectly fine to look up
a product while at a store, get directions, make a reservation, check
on flight status, read email, etc.
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A load of ****


Another load of ****



What a load of **** you ******* spout.
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 00:10:31 +0100, +++ATH0 wrote:

On 2018-04-17 07:11, Ragnusen Ultred wrote:
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A load of ****


Another load of ****


What a load of **** you ******* spout.


What do you expect from someone called "Ragnusen"?

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