I bought a phone jack with four terminals labeled "G" (green), "R" (red), "Y" (yellow), and "B" (black).

However, none of the wires in the telephone cable in the wall have those colors.

See the photo at:

http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/...pskzoysgzj.jpg

Which wire do I attach to each terminal in the phone jack?

Thanks in advance.

In article ,
says...

I bought a phone jack with four terminals labeled "G" (green), "R" (red), "Y" (yellow), and "B" (black).

However, none of the wires in the telephone cable in the wall have those colors.

See the photo at:

http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/...pskzoysgzj.jpg

Which wire do I attach to each terminal in the phone jack?

Thanks in advance.



Your link is not working.

A telephone in the US usually onlyuses 2 wires eventhough there may be 3
or most often 4 wires in the cable.

The phone will have voltage of around 15 or so volts DC on it at very
low current (probably not enough to hardly see a spark if shorted) when
not ringing. When it rings it will have aroud 90 volts pulsing with
each ring. Not much danger if no incomming call,and even if you do get
a call the voltage will not be that dangerouse,but will sure make you
hurt yourslef when you jump back .

If you have a volt meter, see which wires have from 10 to 20 volts DC
on them. Those will be the ones to hook to the red and green wires of
the phone jack. If no vom, just hook up one wire to the red jack post
and touch each of the other 3 wires to it. If you get a dial tone, you
are good to go with those 2 wires. If no dial tone, take that wire off
and connect one of the 3 remaining wires to the red post. Then try the
other 2 one the other post. If no dial tone, that shuld just leave you
the last 2 wires to connect to the red and green post. Most times it
will not matter which wire is green and red, but sometimes it may
depending on the phone. So you may have to repeat the above using the
green jack post.

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 4:01:04 PM UTC-4, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article ,
says...

I bought a phone jack with four terminals labeled "G" (green), "R" (red), "Y" (yellow), and "B" (black).

However, none of the wires in the telephone cable in the wall have those colors.

See the photo at:

http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/...pskzoysgzj.jpg

Which wire do I attach to each terminal in the phone jack?

Thanks in advance.



Your link is not working.

A telephone in the US usually onlyuses 2 wires eventhough there may be 3
or most often 4 wires in the cable.

The phone will have voltage of around 15 or so volts DC on it at very
low current (probably not enough to hardly see a spark if shorted) when
not ringing. When it rings it will have aroud 90 volts pulsing with
each ring. Not much danger if no incomming call,and even if you do get
a call the voltage will not be that dangerouse,but will sure make you
hurt yourslef when you jump back .

If you have a volt meter, see which wires have from 10 to 20 volts DC
on them. Those will be the ones to hook to the red and green wires of
the phone jack. If no vom, just hook up one wire to the red jack post
and touch each of the other 3 wires to it. If you get a dial tone, you
are good to go with those 2 wires. If no dial tone, take that wire off
and connect one of the 3 remaining wires to the red post. Then try the
other 2 one the other post. If no dial tone, that shuld just leave you
the last 2 wires to connect to the red and green post. Most times it
will not matter which wire is green and red, but sometimes it may
depending on the phone. So you may have to repeat the above using the
green jack post.

Or go look at another working jack on the line and see which two
colors it's using. Assuming the new jack is to be shared on that line,
those are your colors. It's it's a jack on a new additional line,
then you can rule out the two on the existing jack.

On 9/8/17 3:39 PM, Bob wrote:
I bought a phone jack with four terminals labeled "G" (green), "R" (red), "Y" (yellow), and "B" (black).

However, none of the wires in the telephone cable in the wall have those colors.

See the photo at:

http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/...pskzoysgzj.jpg

Which wire do I attach to each terminal in the phone jack?

Thanks in advance.


Link not working here either

If the wire colors are striped instead of solid, what you may have is
CAT5 "internet" LAN cable, instead of telco standard "J/K" wire.

If so , here is conversion chart
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/9453

But if you can, as trader4 said, open up an existing jack to confirm
that the blu/white & wht/blu pair was used for Line 1.

Having fun yet ......... ;-)

Give this link a try:

http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/gc...tml?sort=2&o=7

On 09/08/2017 04:54 PM, Bob wrote:
Give this link a try:

http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/gc...tml?sort=2&o=7


It says you gotta upgrade your account to enable 3rd party hosting. Apparently photosucket ain't making enough money shoving popup spam-ads up everyone's asses.

https://i.imgur.com/nNxoMgf.jpg

On 9/8/17 5:21 PM, Bob wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/nNxoMgf.jpg


OK, so you've got the newer yet 6 pair (12 wire) house cable. The b/w
& w/b pair is still Line 1, to be attached to the jack per the chart
at http://www.dslreports.com/faq/9453 Ignore the other wires.

Here are photos of the wiring in the working jack:

https://i.imgur.com/swDsmiW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OND6Cjo.jpg

In article ,
says...

Here are photos of the wiring in the working jack:

https://i.imgur.com/swDsmiW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OND6Cjo.jpg

Ok, way too many wires. Get a voltmeter and find the 2 wires at a
working jack and hook the same color wires to the red and green
terminals of the 4 wire jack.

Mentioned above the phone wires will have between 10 and 20 volts on
them. If you pick up a telephone and get a dial tone, the voltage will
drop several volts.

On 09/08/2017 05:55 PM, Bob wrote:
Here are photos of the wiring in the working jack:

https://i.imgur.com/swDsmiW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OND6Cjo.jpg


Looks like some chucklehead wired your phones using the gray/white pair.

Line 1 should be blue/white pair.

Line 2 should be orange/white pair.

On 9/8/2017 6:21 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 18:18:37 -0400, Bubba wrote:

On 09/08/2017 05:55 PM, Bob wrote:
Here are photos of the wiring in the working jack:

https://i.imgur.com/swDsmiW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OND6Cjo.jpg

Looks like some chucklehead wired your phones using the gray/white pair.

Line 1 should be blue/white pair.

Line 2 should be orange/white pair.

Bob, ignore Bubba.

If you follow my instructions of connecting the solid gray to the
green and the gray/white to the red, your new jack will work fine.



I hate cleaning up after homeowner hacks.Â* IMHO, I'd take the time to make it right and move all the jacks to the blue/white pair.Â* I'd inspect and reconfigure the wiring all the way from the NID to the jacks.

Only an antisocial psychopath would use other pair/colors to make a confusing non-standard ****ing mess for the next homeowner. Good grief!

On 09/08/2017 03:00 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article ,
says...

I bought a phone jack with four terminals labeled "G" (green), "R" (red), "Y" (yellow), and "B" (black).

However, none of the wires in the telephone cable in the wall have those colors.

See the photo at:

http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/...pskzoysgzj.jpg

Which wire do I attach to each terminal in the phone jack?

Thanks in advance.



Your link is not working.

I get what looks like a picture, but there's no wires in it. A message
saying "PLEASE UPDATE YOUR ACCOUNT TO ENABLE 3RD PARTY HOSTING".


A telephone in the US usually onlyuses 2 wires eventhough there may be 3
or most often 4 wires in the cable.

The house I lived in in 1970 had 3 pairs (like CAT5 except no brown
pair). I forget which pair had phone.

The phone will have voltage of around 15 or so volts DC on it at very
low current (probably not enough to hardly see a spark if shorted) when
not ringing. When it rings it will have aroud 90 volts pulsing with
each ring. Not much danger if no incomming call,and even if you do get
a call the voltage will not be that dangerouse,but will sure make you
hurt yourslef when you jump back .

If you have a volt meter, see which wires have from 10 to 20 volts DC

[snip]

I used a 8-ohm speaker. It's enough load to make the exchange think
you're "off hook" and you can hear the dial tone.

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"Heresy is a cradle; orthodoxy a coffin." [Robert Ingersoll]

Per Stormin' Mormon's directions, I connected the solid gray to the green and the gray/white to the red.

When I plug in the base unit into the jack, I'm getting Error message "Check tel line" which, according to the user manual, means "The telephone line cord is not connected properly"

On 09/08/2017 03:38 PM, Retired wrote:

[snip]

If the wire colors are striped instead of solid, what you may have is
CAT5 "internet" LAN cable, instead of telco standard "J/K" wire.


What would you call twisted-pair cable that has only 3 pairs
(blue/green/orange but no brown)? My parents had a house built in 1969
using this. The house had the WIRING going to each bedroom but the only
jack was in the kitchen. For years I thought there were jacks in the
bedrooms, because the boxed weren't covered by blank plates but plates
with round holes in them (like you'd use for a F connector). However,
there were just wires behind them.

If so , here is conversion chart
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/9453

But if you can, as trader4 said, open up an existing jack to confirm
that the blu/white & wht/blu pair was used for Line 1.

Having fun yet ......... ;-)


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AM for 1 day).

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"Heresy is a cradle; orthodoxy a coffin." [Robert Ingersoll]

On 09/08/2017 03:38 PM, Retired wrote:

[snip]

In the CAT5 I have here, one wire of each pair is solid color, the other
is striped.


If so , here is conversion chart
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/9453

But if you can, as trader4 said, open up an existing jack to confirm
that the blu/white & wht/blu pair was used for Line 1.

Having fun yet ......... ;-)


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AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Heresy is a cradle; orthodoxy a coffin." [Robert Ingersoll]

On 09/08/2017 03:54 PM, Bob wrote:
Give this link a try:

http://s1201.photobucket.com/user/gc...tml?sort=2&o=7


I get the same thing as before. Perhaps is works for you because you
have an account. It would be a good idea to try it with a different
browser, one without your login.

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AM for 1 day).

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http://notstupid.us/

"Heresy is a cradle; orthodoxy a coffin." [Robert Ingersoll]

On 09/08/2017 05:21 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
The problem is Donald Trump. The solution is impeachment or, the otherwise legal
removal, from office, of the greatest threat to peace the world has ever known.

I suppose you know that impeachment isn't actually removal from office,
although it is a prerequisite.

Don't use links to photobucket; use these:

The cable to which the new jack will be connected:
https://i.imgur.com/nNxoMgf.jpg


The wires in a working jack:
https://i.imgur.com/swDsmiW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OND6Cjo.jpg

Stormin' Mormon:

When I connect the base unit to the existing (working) jack, I do NOT get the "check tel line" error and the phone works fine.

Back to the new jack, I connected the solid gray to the red and the gray/white to the green and got the "check tel line" error.

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 2:40:02 PM UTC-5, Bob wrote:
I bought a phone jack with four terminals labeled "G" (green), "R" (red), "Y" (yellow), and "B" (black).

However, none of the wires in the telephone cable in the wall have those colors.

See the photo at:

http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/...pskzoysgzj.jpg

Which wire do I attach to each terminal in the phone jack?

Thanks in advance.


Bob, are you in a single family home or apartment? Do you have access to the phone company box on the outside of your home if you are in a house? Take a look at that and see how the wires are connected there. It appears from your pictures that someone made up their own color code. I did a lot of telecom work and if you get a wild hair, you could wire up everything properly so if a phone company tech ever came by, he/she/it would know what was what. Here's a link that shows the proper color code for a 25 pair phone cable but the same color code works for the 6 pair cable. If you look at the charts you can see what I mean if you look at the first 6 pairs. The second link was already posted by "Retired" which shows a conversion chart to solid color wires. The green wire is "Tip" and the red wire is "Ring". This corresponds to the old manual switchboards where the phone plug had a tip and ring that made the connection inside the switchboard jack. With your phones on hook,"hung up", you will see 24 to 50 volts dc on the active pair. There is a lot of technical information on the last two links which are to "sandman.com".ヽ(ヅ)ノ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25-pair_color_code

https://www.dslreports.com/faq/9453

http://www.sandman.com/

http://www.sandman.com/trou-bul.html

[8~{} Uncle Phone Monster

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 9:35:37 PM UTC-4, Bob wrote:
Stormin' Mormon:

When I connect the base unit to the existing (working) jack, I do NOT get the "check tel line" error and the phone works fine.




Back to the new jack, I connected the solid gray to the red and the gray/white to the green and got the "check tel line" error.

Whats connected to the red and green at the working jack? If those two don't work at the new, don't work when reversed either,then either it's a different pair because it's not the same run or more likely it's disconnected somewhere.

Uncle Monster:

I live in a condo unit and I have access to the phone company box. I'll check out the wiring in the box on Saturday morning.

Nothing is "normal" with my condo; the studs are not on 16" centers; drywall is not 8' X 4'; wiring is not correct; etc, etc.

Uncle Monster:

I live in a condo unit and I have access to the phone company box.

But, before I check out the wiring in the phone company box, I'll try to unravel the wires in the working jack to see what wires go to each terminal.

Hopefully, those wires should connect to matching terminals in the new jack.

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 6:02:40 PM UTC-5, Carl wrote:
On 9/8/2017 6:21 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 18:18:37 -0400, Bubba wrote:

On 09/08/2017 05:55 PM, Bob wrote:
Here are photos of the wiring in the working jack:

https://i.imgur.com/swDsmiW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OND6Cjo.jpg

Looks like some chucklehead wired your phones using the gray/white pair.

On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 8:19:44 AM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 18:35:29 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

Stormin' Mormon:

When I connect the base unit to the existing (working) jack, I do NOT get the "check tel line" error and the phone works fine.

Back to the new jack, I connected the solid gray to the red and the gray/white to the green and got the "check tel line" error.

Curious. I would go to the working jack and carefully untangle all
the wires and verify which wires, coming out of the insulating jacket,
are connected to the terminals on the jack.

I see some splices in the bundle, but, from your pictures, it isn't
possible to see exactly what is spliced to what.

Also, are you positive the cable at the new jack is the same cable
going to the working jack? I would go to the box where the telephone
service is brought into the structure and verify which wires are
connected to the terminals on the service block.


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The problem is Donald Trump. The solution is impeachment or, the otherwise legal
removal, from office, of the greatest threat to peace the world has ever known.

In about 5 mins with a pair of jumpers he could just go through all
the possible combinations at the new location. Start with one wire
connected to green, go through all the other wires on red. Then put
that wire on red, go through all the other wires on green. Then
next wire. If there is a pair there, he'll find it. Seems simple to me.

On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 9:39:29 AM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Sat, 9 Sep 2017 06:22:26 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Saturday, September 9, 2017 at 8:19:44 AM UTC-4, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 18:35:29 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

Stormin' Mormon:

When I connect the base unit to the existing (working) jack, I do NOT get the "check tel line" error and the phone works fine.

Back to the new jack, I connected the solid gray to the red and the gray/white to the green and got the "check tel line" error.

Curious. I would go to the working jack and carefully untangle all
the wires and verify which wires, coming out of the insulating jacket,
are connected to the terminals on the jack.

I see some splices in the bundle, but, from your pictures, it isn't
possible to see exactly what is spliced to what.

Also, are you positive the cable at the new jack is the same cable
going to the working jack? I would go to the box where the telephone
service is brought into the structure and verify which wires are
connected to the terminals on the service block.


--

The problem is Donald Trump. The solution is impeachment or, the otherwise legal
removal, from office, of the greatest threat to peace the world has ever known.

In about 5 mins with a pair of jumpers he could just go through all
the possible combinations at the new location. Start with one wire
connected to green, go through all the other wires on red. Then put
that wire on red, go through all the other wires on green. Then
next wire. If there is a pair there, he'll find it. Seems simple to me.

I am trying to avoid suggesting extra steps to him which he might not
be familiar with, or have the tools for, i.e. splicing or insulating
the conductors which are not being used currently, jumpers, or VOM
meters.

However, if you think it is the right course of action, feel free to
pick it up and walk him through the process.



I just did.

On 09-Sep-17 8:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:
....

In about 5 mins with a pair of jumpers he could just go through all
the possible combinations at the new location. Start with one wire
connected to green, go through all the other wires on red. Then put
that wire on red, go through all the other wires on green. Then
next wire. If there is a pair there, he'll find it. Seems simple to me.

_FAR_ too practical/commonsense for ahr, though!

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On 09/08/2017 03:39 PM, Bob wrote:
I bought a phone jack with four terminals labeled "G" (green), "R" (red), "Y" (yellow), and "B" (black).

However, none of the wires in the telephone cable in the wall have those colors.

See the photo at:

http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/...pskzoysgzj.jpg

Which wire do I attach to each terminal in the phone jack?

Thanks in advance.


Your link is broken but if you find your phone line distribution block, you should be able to see what color pairs are used for distribution.

On 09/09/2017 08:22 AM, trader_4 wrote:

[snip]

In about 5 mins with a pair of jumpers he could just go through all
the possible combinations at the new location. Start with one wire
connected to green, go through all the other wires on red. Then put
that wire on red, go through all the other wires on green. Then
next wire. If there is a pair there, he'll find it. Seems simple to me.

I see a lot of that. Someone asking something in a newsgroup, when the
answer can be found much faster and more easily by trying things.

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Solved!

Blue wire connects to "R" terminal.
Blue/white wire connects to "G" terminal.
Orange wire connects to "Y" terminal.
Orange/white wire connects to "B" terminal.

On 09/10/2017 03:16 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 12:01:22 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

Solved!

Blue wire connects to "R" terminal.
Blue/white wire connects to "G" terminal.
Orange wire connects to "Y" terminal.
Orange/white wire connects to "B" terminal.
Great, that is the standard for such cable. The Orange is only used
if there is a second line.

This still doesn't explain why the gray/white pair was connected at
the existing jack.



Jack was installed by a chucklehead.

On 9/10/17 3:01 PM, Bob wrote:
Solved!

Blue wire connects to "R" terminal.
Blue/white wire connects to "G" terminal.
Orange wire connects to "Y" terminal.
Orange/white wire connects to "B" terminal.


Glad to hear you stuck with it and made it work.

BTW, what did you decide on for deskset for Grandma ?

On 9/10/2017 3:16 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 12:01:22 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

Solved!

Blue wire connects to "R" terminal.
Blue/white wire connects to "G" terminal.
Orange wire connects to "Y" terminal.
Orange/white wire connects to "B" terminal.

Great, that is the standard for such cable. The Orange is only used
if there is a second line.

This still doesn't explain why the gray/white pair was connected at
the existing jack.


It is connected to the Blue-Blue/white pair. If you look at the top of
the wire "nest" you'll see the true Gray pair.