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Default Can A 12V Power Supply Wire Be Run Through A Wall?

On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 4:06:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:33:04 -0400, wrote:

"If the wiring leaves the group of
equipment to connect to other devices in the same room or elsewhere in
the building, the wiring is considered €˜€˜wiring within buildings and
is subject to the requirements of Article 725"

EXCEPT when the cabling is part of a "listed device" - which the cord
on the wall-wart is - when it is not addressed.


In typical usenet fashion we have taken a simple question to absurd
lengths


Yep...that's why I've been sitting back watching you guys hash this out.


but I doubt the listing includes the ability to penetrate
walls, ceilings or floors.
1&2 family is pretty much immune from inspections as long as there is
no open permit but I guarantee you, in a commercial building or a
multi family, this would get tagged.
I already said, in the grand scheme of things this is not a baby
killer but it is still questionable as a code issue.


My thoughts exactly.

In any case, the issue was resolved in another manner since I asked
the question.

The device is the controller box for a 4 camera WiFi security system.
The location where it was going to be placed was the only place where
it could consistently communicate with all 4 cameras.

A deeper reading of the manual revealed that you can program the cameras
to talk to/through each other, as opposed to each one talking directly to
the controller.

e.g. Place the controller in Location A and all 4 cameras can communicate
with it, but the power wiring is an issue.

Place it in Location B and only Cameras 1, 2, and 4 can reach it, but the
power wiring is not a problem.

Now, program Camera 3 to send its signal to Camera 4 and let Camera 4
forward the video to the Controller. Problem solved and no need to run
wires through a wall or ceiling.

OK, now for the next question:

- Camera mounted on exterior wall.
- Hole drilled through exterior siding and interior drywall.
- 12V wire from wall wart passed though hole to camera. Straight
shot, maybe 6", no sleeve, no box.
- Mounting plate on camera covers the hole in exterior wall.
- RG6 style bushing used in interior drywall hole.

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Default Can A 12V Power Supply Wire Be Run Through A Wall?

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:18:38 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 4:06:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:33:04 -0400, wrote:

"If the wiring leaves the group of
equipment to connect to other devices in the same room or elsewhere in
the building, the wiring is considered €˜€˜wiring within buildings and
is subject to the requirements of Article 725"
EXCEPT when the cabling is part of a "listed device" - which the cord
on the wall-wart is - when it is not addressed.


In typical usenet fashion we have taken a simple question to absurd
lengths


Yep...that's why I've been sitting back watching you guys hash this out.


but I doubt the listing includes the ability to penetrate
walls, ceilings or floors.
1&2 family is pretty much immune from inspections as long as there is
no open permit but I guarantee you, in a commercial building or a
multi family, this would get tagged.
I already said, in the grand scheme of things this is not a baby
killer but it is still questionable as a code issue.


My thoughts exactly.

In any case, the issue was resolved in another manner since I asked
the question.

The device is the controller box for a 4 camera WiFi security system.
The location where it was going to be placed was the only place where
it could consistently communicate with all 4 cameras.

A deeper reading of the manual revealed that you can program the cameras
to talk to/through each other, as opposed to each one talking directly to
the controller.

e.g. Place the controller in Location A and all 4 cameras can communicate
with it, but the power wiring is an issue.

Place it in Location B and only Cameras 1, 2, and 4 can reach it, but the
power wiring is not a problem.

Now, program Camera 3 to send its signal to Camera 4 and let Camera 4
forward the video to the Controller. Problem solved and no need to run
wires through a wall or ceiling.

OK, now for the next question:

- Camera mounted on exterior wall.
- Hole drilled through exterior siding and interior drywall.
- 12V wire from wall wart passed though hole to camera. Straight
shot, maybe 6", no sleeve, no box.
- Mounting plate on camera covers the hole in exterior wall.
- RG6 style bushing used in interior drywall hole.

Thumbs up or thumbs down?


OK
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On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 7:56:34 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:18:38 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 4:06:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:33:04 -0400, wrote:

"If the wiring leaves the group of
equipment to connect to other devices in the same room or elsewhere in
the building, the wiring is considered €˜€˜wiring within buildings and
is subject to the requirements of Article 725"
EXCEPT when the cabling is part of a "listed device" - which the cord
on the wall-wart is - when it is not addressed.

In typical usenet fashion we have taken a simple question to absurd
lengths


Yep...that's why I've been sitting back watching you guys hash this out.


but I doubt the listing includes the ability to penetrate
walls, ceilings or floors.
1&2 family is pretty much immune from inspections as long as there is
no open permit but I guarantee you, in a commercial building or a
multi family, this would get tagged.
I already said, in the grand scheme of things this is not a baby
killer but it is still questionable as a code issue.


My thoughts exactly.

In any case, the issue was resolved in another manner since I asked
the question.

The device is the controller box for a 4 camera WiFi security system.
The location where it was going to be placed was the only place where
it could consistently communicate with all 4 cameras.

A deeper reading of the manual revealed that you can program the cameras
to talk to/through each other, as opposed to each one talking directly to
the controller.

e.g. Place the controller in Location A and all 4 cameras can communicate
with it, but the power wiring is an issue.

Place it in Location B and only Cameras 1, 2, and 4 can reach it, but the
power wiring is not a problem.

Now, program Camera 3 to send its signal to Camera 4 and let Camera 4
forward the video to the Controller. Problem solved and no need to run
wires through a wall or ceiling.

OK, now for the next question:

- Camera mounted on exterior wall.
- Hole drilled through exterior siding and interior drywall.
- 12V wire from wall wart passed though hole to camera. Straight
shot, maybe 6", no sleeve, no box.
- Mounting plate on camera covers the hole in exterior wall.
- RG6 style bushing used in interior drywall hole.

Thumbs up or thumbs down?


OK


Thank you sir! (as always)
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Default Can A 12V Power Supply Wire Be Run Through A Wall?

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:18:38 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 4:06:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:33:04 -0400, wrote:

"If the wiring leaves the group of
equipment to connect to other devices in the same room or elsewhere in
the building, the wiring is considered ‘‘wiring within buildings’’ and
is subject to the requirements of Article 725"
EXCEPT when the cabling is part of a "listed device" - which the cord
on the wall-wart is - when it is not addressed.


In typical usenet fashion we have taken a simple question to absurd
lengths


Yep...that's why I've been sitting back watching you guys hash this out.


but I doubt the listing includes the ability to penetrate
walls, ceilings or floors.
1&2 family is pretty much immune from inspections as long as there is
no open permit but I guarantee you, in a commercial building or a
multi family, this would get tagged.
I already said, in the grand scheme of things this is not a baby
killer but it is still questionable as a code issue.


My thoughts exactly.

In any case, the issue was resolved in another manner since I asked
the question.

The device is the controller box for a 4 camera WiFi security system.
The location where it was going to be placed was the only place where
it could consistently communicate with all 4 cameras.

A deeper reading of the manual revealed that you can program the cameras
to talk to/through each other, as opposed to each one talking directly to
the controller.

e.g. Place the controller in Location A and all 4 cameras can communicate
with it, but the power wiring is an issue.

Place it in Location B and only Cameras 1, 2, and 4 can reach it, but the
power wiring is not a problem.

Now, program Camera 3 to send its signal to Camera 4 and let Camera 4
forward the video to the Controller. Problem solved and no need to run
wires through a wall or ceiling.

OK, now for the next question:

- Camera mounted on exterior wall.
- Hole drilled through exterior siding and interior drywall.
- 12V wire from wall wart passed though hole to camera. Straight
shot, maybe 6", no sleeve, no box.
- Mounting plate on camera covers the hole in exterior wall.
- RG6 style bushing used in interior drywall hole.

Thumbs up or thumbs down?

The wall wart wire through the wall will give some of the guys "code
fits" - but as I've posted before, there is no code issue unless you
have aluminum or steel siding in which case you really want either a
sleave or a grommet.


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On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 10:15:00 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:18:38 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 4:06:26 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:33:04 -0400, wrote:

"If the wiring leaves the group of
equipment to connect to other devices in the same room or elsewhere in
the building, the wiring is considered è˜wiring within buildings鋳 and
is subject to the requirements of Article 725"
EXCEPT when the cabling is part of a "listed device" - which the cord
on the wall-wart is - when it is not addressed.

In typical usenet fashion we have taken a simple question to absurd
lengths


Yep...that's why I've been sitting back watching you guys hash this out.


but I doubt the listing includes the ability to penetrate
walls, ceilings or floors.
1&2 family is pretty much immune from inspections as long as there is
no open permit but I guarantee you, in a commercial building or a
multi family, this would get tagged.
I already said, in the grand scheme of things this is not a baby
killer but it is still questionable as a code issue.


My thoughts exactly.

In any case, the issue was resolved in another manner since I asked
the question.

The device is the controller box for a 4 camera WiFi security system.
The location where it was going to be placed was the only place where
it could consistently communicate with all 4 cameras.

A deeper reading of the manual revealed that you can program the cameras
to talk to/through each other, as opposed to each one talking directly to
the controller.

e.g. Place the controller in Location A and all 4 cameras can communicate
with it, but the power wiring is an issue.

Place it in Location B and only Cameras 1, 2, and 4 can reach it, but the
power wiring is not a problem.

Now, program Camera 3 to send its signal to Camera 4 and let Camera 4
forward the video to the Controller. Problem solved and no need to run
wires through a wall or ceiling.

OK, now for the next question:

- Camera mounted on exterior wall.
- Hole drilled through exterior siding and interior drywall.
- 12V wire from wall wart passed though hole to camera. Straight
shot, maybe 6", no sleeve, no box.
- Mounting plate on camera covers the hole in exterior wall.
- RG6 style bushing used in interior drywall hole.

Thumbs up or thumbs down?

The wall wart wire through the wall will give some of the guys "code
fits" - but as I've posted before, there is no code issue unless you
have aluminum or steel siding in which case you really want either a
sleave or a grommet.


ROFL

Just a few posts ago you told us there was no code covering Class 1,
Class 2, period.
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