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Pilot vs. Pilotless Gas Ranges
I was selling ranges when pilotless first came out. Told an elderly lady
that she could save money by going pilotless (there was a choice then). She went home and called the gas company and was told she would save about $10 per year. She didn't think she was going to live long enough to make up the $40 difference in the stoves so went with pilot. I don't believe you can buy a range with a pilot light unless it is so basic it doesn't have an electrical cord. "JNJ" wrote in message ... I already know all the plusses and minuses in this debate, but what I do not know are the numbers. How much gas is saved by going from a typical pilot based range to a pilotless unit? Does anyone have a pilot by pilot breakdown of the savings? James |
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Pilot vs. Pilotless Gas Ranges
in summer you heat your air less which you pay more to cool ,, you
loose 20% + in conversion, its thermodynamics. in winter who gives a **** , its heat ,,,,,, go pilotless unless you never cool, payback ? Better options ,,,,,, new fridge......pays better than bank rate if you live in mid west........ |
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variables are by area and heat - cooling hrs, you do the math, or I will
for 100.00 ,,, |
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Pilot vs. Pilotless Gas Ranges
aquastar water heater pilotless requires 2 d batteries mine are 1.6
yrs old...... I guess I should change them.....HAAAA HAA....only takes research dude. |
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Pilot vs. Pilotless Gas Ranges
It should be noted that the system commonly used for the stove and the
top burners is not the same and the amount of electricity used for the top burners is almost nothing. That said, with the exception of situations like yours, the cost difference is really very little. -- Joseph E. Meehan 26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math "MSH" wrote in message ... I have run pilots off a 5 gallon tank and it lasts about 6 weeks with 3 pilot stove, and water heater. Problem with the pilotless is the incredible amount of electricity to run the stove. I keep track because I run off solar power. Now I just unplug the pilotless stove unless I am using it a lot and have plenty of sun. M Hamlin |
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Pilot vs. Pilotless Gas Ranges
James,
I can't find the breakdown we had when this 1st became an issue, but the way it was then was: in 10 years, you'd save enough that 3 pilots would've cost to pay for the replacement of the oven ignitor. I'm sure the pricing has changed since then, but I can tell you that, for whatever reason, ignitors and oven valves are no longer lasting 10 years like they used to! As another poster has said, it's tough to find piloted ranges with any options at all. About all I'd suggest is staying away from the GE's right now, but most gas ranges are 'less than thrilling', even the $3600+ 'dual-fuels'. Thought you might want yet another person's $.02... grin God bless, Dave Harnish Dave's Repair Service New Albany, PA Our Free Monthly Appliance Tips Newsletter: ?subject=SubscribeDRSN Acts 4:12 "JNJ" wrote in message ... I already know all the plusses and minuses in this debate, but what I do not know are the numbers. How much gas is saved by going from a typical pilot based range to a pilotless unit? Does anyone have a pilot by pilot breakdown of the savings? James |
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Pilot vs. Pilotless Gas Ranges
I can't find the breakdown we had when this 1st became an issue,
but the way it was then was: in 10 years, you'd save enough that 3 pilots would've cost to pay for the replacement of the oven ignitor. I'm sure the pricing has changed since then, but I can tell you that, for whatever reason, ignitors and oven valves are no longer lasting 10 years like they used to! As another poster has said, it's tough to find piloted ranges with any options at all. About all I'd suggest is staying away from the GE's right now, but most gas ranges are 'less than thrilling', even the $3600+ 'dual-fuels'. At this point, we're looking at a Best Buy special. Every week or two they change it, but the general gist is the same -- pilotless, manual cleaning, windowed oven, 4-4.5 cu ft oven size, 4 burners (typically closed system as opposed to open -- that's nice) and a digital clock/timer in the 10" tall splash guard. It's a no frills stove that will just do what it's intended to do -- cook food and hold dirty dishes when we're too lazy to do them. These units are typically just under $300 -- the current model is a Whirlpool for $279.99. There's no doubt we both need and want to update this 20+ year old model we have in the kitchen (it doesn't even have shutoff valves for the individual gas lines to give you an idea of how old it is). At this point, I was just curious how much if any would be saved by dumping pilots -- I've been on an energy conservation kick for a while now. James |
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I have run pilots off a 5 gallon tank and it lasts about 6 weeks with 3
pilot stove, and water heater. Problem with the pilotless is the incredible amount of electricity to run the stove. I keep track because I run off solar power. Now I just unplug the pilotless stove unless I am using it a lot and have plenty of sun. "Incredible amount" you say? This surprises me -- how much does it pull? James |
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Pilot vs. Pilotless Gas Ranges
No, but I can tell you that a month away with a water heater
pilot and stove pilots results in hardly any gas usage (well below the minimum charge) and that include keeping the water hot in the water tank. The amount of gas saved by having a pilotless stove can possibly ever make up the difference in cost of a pilot stove vs. a pilotless stove (unless you keep the stove for 20 years). Curious you would mention that as the stove we have has been here for well over 20 years now. Like I said -- this is really more of a curiosity than anything else. I'm just curious how much gas a pilot actually consumes. James |
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