I was selling ranges when pilotless first came out. Told an elderly lady
that she could save money by going pilotless (there was a choice then). She
went home and called the gas company and was told she would save about $10
per year. She didn't think she was going to live long enough to make up the
$40 difference in the stoves so went with pilot. I don't believe you can
buy a range with a pilot light unless it is so basic it doesn't have an
electrical cord.
"JNJ" wrote in message
...
I already know all the plusses and minuses in this debate, but what I do
not
know are the numbers.

How much gas is saved by going from a typical pilot based range to a
pilotless unit? Does anyone have a pilot by pilot breakdown of the
savings?

James

in summer you heat your air less which you pay more to cool ,, you
loose 20% + in conversion, its thermodynamics. in winter who gives a
**** , its heat ,,,,,, go pilotless unless you never cool, payback ?
Better options ,,,,,, new fridge......pays better than bank rate if you
live in mid west........

variables are by area and heat - cooling hrs, you do the math, or I will
for 100.00 ,,,

aquastar water heater pilotless requires 2 d batteries mine are 1.6
yrs old...... I guess I should change them.....HAAAA HAA....only takes
research dude.

It should be noted that the system commonly used for the stove and the
top burners is not the same and the amount of electricity used for the top
burners is almost nothing.

That said, with the exception of situations like yours, the cost
difference is really very little.

--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math


"MSH" wrote in message ...
I have run pilots off a 5 gallon tank and it lasts about 6 weeks with 3
pilot stove, and water heater. Problem with the pilotless is the
incredible
amount of electricity to run the stove. I keep track because I run off
solar
power. Now I just unplug the pilotless stove unless I am using it a lot
and
have plenty of sun.

M Hamlin

James,

I can't find the breakdown we had when this 1st became an issue,
but the way it was then was: in 10 years, you'd save enough that 3
pilots would've cost to pay for the replacement of the oven ignitor.

I'm sure the pricing has changed since then, but I can tell you that,
for whatever reason, ignitors and oven valves are no longer lasting
10 years like they used to!

As another poster has said, it's tough to find piloted ranges with any
options at all. About all I'd suggest is staying away from the GE's
right now, but most gas ranges are 'less than thrilling', even the $3600+
'dual-fuels'.

Thought you might want yet another person's $.02... grin

God bless,

Dave Harnish
Dave's Repair Service
New Albany, PA


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"JNJ" wrote in message
...
I already know all the plusses and minuses in this debate, but what I do
not
know are the numbers.

How much gas is saved by going from a typical pilot based range to a
pilotless unit? Does anyone have a pilot by pilot breakdown of the
savings?

James

I can't find the breakdown we had when this 1st became an issue,
but the way it was then was: in 10 years, you'd save enough that 3
pilots would've cost to pay for the replacement of the oven ignitor.

I'm sure the pricing has changed since then, but I can tell you that,
for whatever reason, ignitors and oven valves are no longer lasting
10 years like they used to!

As another poster has said, it's tough to find piloted ranges with any
options at all. About all I'd suggest is staying away from the GE's
right now, but most gas ranges are 'less than thrilling', even the $3600+
'dual-fuels'.

At this point, we're looking at a Best Buy special. Every week or two they
change it, but the general gist is the same -- pilotless, manual cleaning,
windowed oven, 4-4.5 cu ft oven size, 4 burners (typically closed system as
opposed to open -- that's nice) and a digital clock/timer in the 10" tall
splash guard. It's a no frills stove that will just do what it's intended
to do -- cook food and hold dirty dishes when we're too lazy to do them.

These units are typically just under $300 -- the current model is a
Whirlpool for $279.99. There's no doubt we both need and want to update
this 20+ year old model we have in the kitchen (it doesn't even have shutoff
valves for the individual gas lines to give you an idea of how old it is).

At this point, I was just curious how much if any would be saved by dumping
pilots -- I've been on an energy conservation kick for a while now.

James

I have run pilots off a 5 gallon tank and it lasts about 6 weeks with 3
pilot stove, and water heater. Problem with the pilotless is the
incredible
amount of electricity to run the stove. I keep track because I run off
solar
power. Now I just unplug the pilotless stove unless I am using it a lot
and
have plenty of sun.

"Incredible amount" you say? This surprises me -- how much does it pull?

James

No, but I can tell you that a month away with a water heater
pilot and stove pilots results in hardly any gas usage (well
below the minimum charge) and that include keeping the water
hot in the water tank. The amount of gas saved by having a
pilotless stove can possibly ever make up the difference in
cost of a pilot stove vs. a pilotless stove (unless you keep
the stove for 20 years).

Curious you would mention that as the stove we have has been here for well
over 20 years now.

Like I said -- this is really more of a curiosity than anything else. I'm
just curious how much gas a pilot actually consumes.

James