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About 8 years ago, as I reported here, our
Kenmore/Frigidaire/Electrolux/Gibson (Kenmore model# 417.41142000)
front-load washer started leaking greasy crud into the drum and staining
clothes.

This time there was no leaking into the drum, but it was getting
horribly noisy, and when I opened it up water had obviously been leaking
out through the bearings and rusty water had been flung around the
inside of the cabinet.

Rather than buying bearings and seal on eBay as I did previously, this
time I bought a set from NMDbearings.com

Time will tell how well they perform, how long they last.

Perce
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About 8 years ago, as I reported here, our
Kenmore/Frigidaire/Electrolux/Gibson (Kenmore model# 417.41142000)
front-load washer started leaking greasy crud into the drum and staining
clothes.

This time there was no leaking into the drum, but it was getting
horribly noisy, and when I opened it up water had obviously been leaking
out through the bearings and rusty water had been flung around the
inside of the cabinet.

Rather than buying bearings and seal on eBay as I did previously, this
time I bought a set from NMDbearings.com

Time will tell how well they perform, how long they last.

Perce


You mean how well the seals perform...

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On 03/24/2016 03:06 PM, Tekkie® wrote:

About 8 years ago, as I reported here, our
Kenmore/Frigidaire/Electrolux/Gibson (Kenmore model# 417.41142000)
front-load washer started leaking greasy crud into the drum and staining
clothes.

This time there was no leaking into the drum, but it was getting
horribly noisy, and when I opened it up water had obviously been leaking
out through the bearings and rusty water had been flung around the
inside of the cabinet.

Rather than buying bearings and seal on eBay as I did previously, this
time I bought a set from NMDbearings.com

Time will tell how well they perform, how long they last.


You mean how well the seals perform...


Primarily the seal, I suppose, although I guess it's possible that a
bearing could fail other than because of a failed seal.

Anyway, this time it's going to be a lot more difficult than the first
time, because the shaft and the bearing have locked/rusted together. PB
Blaster and hefty whacks with the hammer haven't done the trick yet.

Perce


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Anyway, this time it's going to be a lot more difficult than the first
time, because the shaft and the bearing have locked/rusted together. PB
Blaster and hefty whacks with the hammer haven't done the trick yet.


Do you have a bearing puller? Or is it time for a new unit...
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On 03/24/2016 07:24 PM, Oren wrote:

Anyway, this time it's going to be a lot more difficult than the first
time, because the shaft and the bearing have locked/rusted together. PB
Blaster and hefty whacks with the hammer haven't done the trick yet.


Do you have a bearing puller? Or is it time for a new unit...


The drum has metal inserts into which the outer rings of the bearings
fit, so I have to get the shaft of the basket free of the inner rings of
those bearings first -- and one bearing is inserted from the outside,
the other from the inside. So no way to use a bearing puller.

If by "new unit" you mean new drum/basket assembly (a few hundred $$),
then that would be a waste of money. New washer? Maybe, if push comes to
shove.

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On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:37:52 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
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On 03/24/2016 07:24 PM, Oren wrote:

Anyway, this time it's going to be a lot more difficult than the first
time, because the shaft and the bearing have locked/rusted together. PB
Blaster and hefty whacks with the hammer haven't done the trick yet.


Do you have a bearing puller? Or is it time for a new unit...


The drum has metal inserts into which the outer rings of the bearings
fit, so I have to get the shaft of the basket free of the inner rings of
those bearings first -- and one bearing is inserted from the outside,
the other from the inside. So no way to use a bearing puller.

If by "new unit" you mean new drum/basket assembly (a few hundred $$),
then that would be a waste of money. New washer? Maybe, if push comes to
shove.

Perce


Yes I was hinting to buy a new unit. You can beat a dead horse so
long. You end up with a dead horse with bruises. YMMV
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On 3/24/2016 1:34 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
About 8 years ago, as I reported here, our
Kenmore/Frigidaire/Electrolux/Gibson (Kenmore model# 417.41142000)
front-load washer started leaking greasy crud into the drum and staining
clothes.

This time there was no leaking into the drum, but it was getting
horribly noisy, and when I opened it up water had obviously been leaking
out through the bearings and rusty water had been flung around the
inside of the cabinet.

Rather than buying bearings and seal on eBay as I did previously, this
time I bought a set from NMDbearings.com

Time will tell how well they perform, how long they last.

Perce


Your report will help others to make informed
decisions. Thank you.

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Anyway, this time it's going to be a lot more difficult than the first
time, because the shaft and the bearing have locked/rusted together. PB
Blaster and hefty whacks with the hammer haven't done the trick yet.

Perce



Might need heat.

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On 3/25/2016 8:17 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 3/24/2016 1:34 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
About 8 years ago, as I reported here, our
Kenmore/Frigidaire/Electrolux/Gibson (Kenmore model# 417.41142000)
front-load washer started leaking greasy crud into the drum and staining
clothes.

This time there was no leaking into the drum, but it was getting
horribly noisy, and when I opened it up water had obviously been leaking
out through the bearings and rusty water had been flung around the
inside of the cabinet.

Rather than buying bearings and seal on eBay as I did previously, this
time I bought a set from NMDbearings.com

Time will tell how well they perform, how long they last.

Perce


Your report will help others to make informed
decisions. Thank you.


It is very informative and a lesson learned. Don't buy a Frigidare
brands front load washer.
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On 3/25/2016 9:24 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/25/2016 8:17 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 3/24/2016 1:34 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
Rather than buying bearings and seal on eBay as I did previously, this
time I bought a set from NMDbearings.com

Time will tell how well they perform, how long they last.

Perce


Your report will help others to make informed
decisions. Thank you.


It is very informative and a lesson learned. Don't buy a Frigidare
brands front load washer.


I was thinking that all owners of such washers
need to dissemble the machine every month and
grease where the bearing meets the shaft. Some
emery cloth, and sand the surface also.

For your convenience, of course.

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On 03/25/2016 08:18 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Anyway, this time it's going to be a lot more difficult than the first
time, because the shaft and the bearing have locked/rusted together. PB
Blaster and hefty whacks with the hammer haven't done the trick yet.


Might need heat.


But the (outer) drum itself is some kind of plastic, so I'd be wary of
using much heat.

I've left it "stewing" overnight with plenty of PB Blaster, but it still
doesn't move.

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On 03/25/2016 09:24 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

About 8 years ago, as I reported here, our
Kenmore/Frigidaire/Electrolux/Gibson (Kenmore model# 417.41142000)
front-load washer started leaking greasy crud into the drum and staining
clothes.

This time there was no leaking into the drum, but it was getting
horribly noisy, and when I opened it up water had obviously been leaking
out through the bearings and rusty water had been flung around the
inside of the cabinet.

Rather than buying bearings and seal on eBay as I did previously, this
time I bought a set from NMDbearings.com

Time will tell how well they perform, how long they last.


Your report will help others to make informed
decisions. Thank you.


It is very informative and a lesson learned. Don't buy a Frigidare
brands front load washer.


That particular design -- from 15 or more years ago -- was bad, but I
don't think you can generalize to "all Frigidaire front-loaders."

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On 3/25/2016 10:56 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
Might need heat.


But the (outer) drum itself is some kind of plastic, so I'd be wary of
using much heat.

I've left it "stewing" overnight with plenty of PB Blaster, but it still
doesn't move.

Perce


Didn't know that about the plastic. I've had
good results with Castle Thrust, from NAPA
auto parts stores. Best of luck / results on
your repair.

The one time I wanted to adjust the tilt level
of my vehicle headlights, the adjuster was stuck.
Casle Thrust was the only spray lube that helped.

I've heard good things about Kroil, or Aerokroil.

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On 03/25/2016 11:29 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Might need heat.


But the (outer) drum itself is some kind of plastic, so I'd be wary of
using much heat.

I've left it "stewing" overnight with plenty of PB Blaster, but it still
doesn't move.


Didn't know that about the plastic. I've had
good results with Castle Thrust, from NAPA
auto parts stores. Best of luck / results on
your repair.

The one time I wanted to adjust the tilt level
of my vehicle headlights, the adjuster was stuck.
Casle Thrust was the only spray lube that helped.

I've heard good things about Kroil, or Aerokroil.


Gave up on the old washer: new Maytag being delivered this afternoon.
Cannibalized the old one for usable parts, and the carcase will be
hauled away.

Perce

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On 3/26/2016 8:09 AM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 03/25/2016 11:29 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:


The one time I wanted to adjust the tilt level
of my vehicle headlights, the adjuster was stuck.
Casle Thrust was the only spray lube that helped.


Gave up on the old washer: new Maytag being delivered this afternoon.
Cannibalized the old one for usable parts, and the carcase will be
hauled away.

Perce


Did you buy a similar model? I remember my first
Chrysler vehicle (1974 Dodge Dart) and I swore I'd
never buy another Chrysler.

Oh, wait. Your subject line says Kenmore and
the message body says Maytag. Maybe that's my
answer?

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Gave up on the old washer: new Maytag being delivered this afternoon.
Cannibalized the old one for usable parts, and the carcase will be
hauled away.

Perce


Probably a smart move. Front or top load? We like our top load Maytag
a bit over a year old.
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On 03/26/2016 12:03 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Gave up on the old washer: new Maytag being delivered this afternoon.
Cannibalized the old one for usable parts, and the carcase will be
hauled away.


Probably a smart move. Front or top load? We like our top load Maytag
a bit over a year old.


Front-load. We went looking for a Whirlpool (at least in part because
they are made -- assembled, anyway -- in the USA), but they wouldn't
have what we wanted for another couple of weeks. They said the Maytag
(also made by Whirlpool) was built to a slightly higher standard, and
they had one in stock. $200 off regular price, and another 10% off for
using the store CC. Matching dryer (same deal) due in a couple of weeks.

The first load is running as I write this.

At breakfast a friend told us that a friend of hers has a top-load
Whirlpool and hates it -- all kinds of problems (but fixed under warranty).

Perce

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