On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:43:19 -0500, Al roarke
wrote:

I replaced the Fluidmaster valve this morning, and the flapper last
week. The food coloring test is still showing up at the bottom of the
bowl after about 15 min. Not sure what else to do. I am considering
trying the Korky kit that supposedly "repairs" the flapper by using a
ring that is siliconed in place under it. I suppose if that doesn't
work, I'll have to pull off the tank and replace those parts.


Let it fill, then turn off the water supply. If the tank leaks down,
it's the flapper. If it doesn't leak down, its the valve.

On 11/24/2015 06:25 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:43:19 -0500, Al roarke
wrote:

I replaced the Fluidmaster valve this morning, and the flapper last
week. The food coloring test is still showing up at the bottom of the
bowl after about 15 min. Not sure what else to do. I am considering
trying the Korky kit that supposedly "repairs" the flapper by using a
ring that is siliconed in place under it. I suppose if that doesn't
work, I'll have to pull off the tank and replace those parts.


Let it fill, then turn off the water supply. If the tank leaks down,
it's the flapper. If it doesn't leak down, its the valve.


I used the Corky kit which basically provides a ring that is silicone
applied to the seat. It says to allow 15 min after resetting, but I let
it sit for 2 hours before refilling the tank. Same results, I can see
traces of food coloring working from the tank into the bowl. When I
shine a flashlight down the overflow tube, I don't see anything leaking
in from the side.

I guess I'll shut off the water and see what happens. Just for
clarification, by tank "leaking down" are you meaning the water level
dropping inside the tank versus not? Since the occasional running of
the commode is so infrequent, I guess I'd better carefully mark the
initial water level. Since the family needs the water tonight, I will
have to try this tomorrow.

Al roarke wrote:
On 11/24/2015 06:25 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:43:19 -0500, Al roarke
wrote:

I replaced the Fluidmaster valve this morning, and the flapper last
week. The food coloring test is still showing up at the bottom of the
bowl after about 15 min. Not sure what else to do. I am considering
trying the Korky kit that supposedly "repairs" the flapper by using a
ring that is siliconed in place under it. I suppose if that doesn't
work, I'll have to pull off the tank and replace those parts.


Let it fill, then turn off the water supply. If the tank leaks down,
it's the flapper. If it doesn't leak down, its the valve.


I used the Corky kit which basically provides a ring that is silicone
applied to the seat. It says to allow 15 min after resetting, but I let
it sit for 2 hours before refilling the tank. Same results, I can see
traces of food coloring working from the tank into the bowl. When I
shine a flashlight down the overflow tube, I don't see anything leaking
in from the side.

I guess I'll shut off the water and see what happens. Just for
clarification, by tank "leaking down" are you meaning the water level
dropping inside the tank versus not? Since the occasional running of
the commode is so infrequent, I guess I'd better carefully mark the
initial water level. Since the family needs the water tonight, I will
have to try this tomorrow.

You mean you have to shut off whole house water supply? Don't have a
water cock right under the tank just to shut off water going to
tank?what kinda plumbing is that?

On 11/24/2015 07:17 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Al roarke wrote:
On 11/24/2015 06:25 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:43:19 -0500, Al roarke
wrote:

I replaced the Fluidmaster valve this morning, and the flapper last
week. The food coloring test is still showing up at the bottom of the
bowl after about 15 min. Not sure what else to do. I am considering
trying the Korky kit that supposedly "repairs" the flapper by using a
ring that is siliconed in place under it. I suppose if that doesn't
work, I'll have to pull off the tank and replace those parts.


Let it fill, then turn off the water supply. If the tank leaks down,
it's the flapper. If it doesn't leak down, its the valve.


I used the Corky kit which basically provides a ring that is silicone
applied to the seat. It says to allow 15 min after resetting, but I let
it sit for 2 hours before refilling the tank. Same results, I can see
traces of food coloring working from the tank into the bowl. When I
shine a flashlight down the overflow tube, I don't see anything leaking
in from the side.

I guess I'll shut off the water and see what happens. Just for
clarification, by tank "leaking down" are you meaning the water level
dropping inside the tank versus not? Since the occasional running of
the commode is so infrequent, I guess I'd better carefully mark the
initial water level. Since the family needs the water tonight, I will
have to try this tomorrow.

You mean you have to shut off whole house water supply? Don't have a
water cock right under the tank just to shut off water going to
tank?what kinda plumbing is that?

There is, but I don't trust it and leave it alone. A few years back, I
had serious issues getting it to fully close off the supply line and it
wanted to start leaking, so I carefully opened it back up and left it
that way. Definitely don't want to have to start soldering the pipes
with a new valve!

On 11/24/2015 06:17 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:

[snip]

You mean you have to shut off whole house water supply? Don't have a
water cock right under the tank just to shut off water going to
tank?what kinda plumbing is that?

A valve that hasn't been turned in years is likely to get stuck and be
no better than no valve at all. It could be worse. It could leak on the
floor.

--
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AM for 1 day).

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http://notstupid.us/

"... when people begin to philosophize they seem to think it necessary
to make themselves artificially stupid." [Bertrand Russell in "Theory of
Knowledge"]

On 11/24/2015 9:31 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 11/24/2015 06:17 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:

[snip]

You mean you have to shut off whole house water supply? Don't have a
water cock right under the tank just to shut off water going to
tank?what kinda plumbing is that?

A valve that hasn't been turned in years is likely to get stuck and be
no better than no valve at all. It could be worse. It could leak on the
floor.


I'll admit, I fail to exercise my various shut off
valves around the home. Likely to be a problem when
they are needed.

Rading your "no better than no valve at all" reminds
me of the old limerick about differnt sizes. How about
a rewite?

There was an old man from alt home repair
Whose valve was not turned, I declare
One was rotted and small
T'was no valve at all
The other won several prizes.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 18:10:34 -0500, Al roarke
wrote:

On 11/24/2015 06:25 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2015 09:43:19 -0500, Al roarke
wrote:

I replaced the Fluidmaster valve this morning, and the flapper last
week. The food coloring test is still showing up at the bottom of the
bowl after about 15 min. Not sure what else to do. I am considering
trying the Korky kit that supposedly "repairs" the flapper by using a
ring that is siliconed in place under it. I suppose if that doesn't
work, I'll have to pull off the tank and replace those parts.


Let it fill, then turn off the water supply. If the tank leaks down,
it's the flapper. If it doesn't leak down, its the valve.


I used the Corky kit which basically provides a ring that is silicone
applied to the seat. It says to allow 15 min after resetting, but I let
it sit for 2 hours before refilling the tank. Same results, I can see
traces of food coloring working from the tank into the bowl. When I
shine a flashlight down the overflow tube, I don't see anything leaking
in from the side.

I guess I'll shut off the water and see what happens. Just for
clarification, by tank "leaking down" are you meaning the water level
dropping inside the tank versus not? Since the occasional running of
the commode is so infrequent, I guess I'd better carefully mark the
initial water level. Since the family needs the water tonight, I will
have to try this tomorrow.

Just use your dye to keep it simple.
But if it's the valve you should see the water rise to the overflow
tube. The overflow tube shouldn't submerge.
There's also a possibility your overflow tube seal is leaking through
or the tube itself has a crack that allows water to leak down.