Last summer I put in a small patio, using 16" pre-cast blocks. I put
sand under the blocks, and it's remained pretty level. But due to it's
location, I have had muddy water run across it after heavy rain. I'm
presently working on installing some drainage pipes for rain water.

But the reason for posting this is because there is grass and weeds
growing between the blocks, and before I got down on my knees and
starting pulling them, it was starting to look like a lawn, not a patio.
I'm guessing the mud added some soil to the cracks, which stimulated
growth of vegetation.

Is there some chemical made to stop this?

I did try pouring some gasoline in the cracks, because I had some gas
that got water in it, but that was just a quart or so. I have not
noticed any new growth in those cracks (with the gas), but thats
probably not the safest method, and I doubt it will last long.

Any tips????

Thanks

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 6:37:34 AM UTC-4, wrote:
Last summer I put in a small patio, using 16" pre-cast blocks. I put
sand under the blocks, and it's remained pretty level. But due to it's
location, I have had muddy water run across it after heavy rain. I'm
presently working on installing some drainage pipes for rain water.

But the reason for posting this is because there is grass and weeds
growing between the blocks, and before I got down on my knees and
starting pulling them, it was starting to look like a lawn, not a patio.
I'm guessing the mud added some soil to the cracks, which stimulated
growth of vegetation.

Is there some chemical made to stop this?

I did try pouring some gasoline in the cracks, because I had some gas
that got water in it, but that was just a quart or so. I have not
noticed any new growth in those cracks (with the gas), but thats
probably not the safest method, and I doubt it will last long.

Any tips????

Thanks

i use gasoline to kill grass and weeds growing in cracks in my front sidewalk. mostly because when it snows in the winter the weeds make shoeviling difficult.

it lasts a long time. i have done this for my entire life

you can use round up. its perhaps better for the environmet, and will certinally also kill the vegation

bob haller wrote:
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 6:37:34 AM UTC-4,
wrote:
Last summer I put in a small patio, using 16" pre-cast
blocks. I put
sand under the blocks, and it's remained pretty level.
But due to
it's location, I have had muddy water run across it after
heavy
rain. I'm presently working on installing some drainage
pipes for
rain water.

But the reason for posting this is because there is grass
and weeds
growing between the blocks, and before I got down on my
knees and
starting pulling them, it was starting to look like a
lawn, not a
patio. I'm guessing the mud added some soil to the
cracks, which
stimulated growth of vegetation.

Is there some chemical made to stop this?

I did try pouring some gasoline in the cracks, because I
had some gas
that got water in it, but that was just a quart or so. I
have not
noticed any new growth in those cracks (with the gas),
but thats
probably not the safest method, and I doubt it will last
long.

Any tips????

Thanks

i use gasoline to kill grass and weeds growing in cracks
in my front
sidewalk. mostly because when it snows in the winter the
weeds make
shoeviling difficult.

it lasts a long time. i have done this for my entire life

you can use round up. its perhaps better for the
environmet, and
will certinally also kill the vegation

spoken like a true liberal

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 12:46:02 PM UTC-5, ChairMan wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 6:37:34 AM UTC-4,
wrote:
Last summer I put in a small patio, using 16" pre-cast
blocks. I put
sand under the blocks, and it's remained pretty level.
But due to
it's location, I have had muddy water run across it after
heavy
rain. I'm presently working on installing some drainage
pipes for
rain water.

But the reason for posting this is because there is grass
and weeds
growing between the blocks, and before I got down on my
knees and
starting pulling them, it was starting to look like a
lawn, not a
patio. I'm guessing the mud added some soil to the
cracks, which
stimulated growth of vegetation.

Is there some chemical made to stop this?

I did try pouring some gasoline in the cracks, because I
had some gas
that got water in it, but that was just a quart or so. I
have not
noticed any new growth in those cracks (with the gas),
but thats
probably not the safest method, and I doubt it will last
long.

Any tips????

Thanks

i use gasoline to kill grass and weeds growing in cracks
in my front
sidewalk. mostly because when it snows in the winter the
weeds make
shoeviling difficult.

it lasts a long time. i have done this for my entire life

you can use round up. its perhaps better for the
environmet, and
will certinally also kill the vegation

spoken like a true liberal

In the urban centers of Southern Africa, the middle class Africans use lion blood to kill weeds that pop up between the stones on their patios. The natural insecticide isn't as widely available as it once was because of dwindling supplies which will now be cut off because of new government regulations. The hapless homeowners are hunting for a supply of the environmentally safe herbicide wherever they can find it but may be forced to rely on illegal foreign sources for the extremely effective natural product. Foreign suppliers are complaining that it's so difficult for them to get ahead. Ê•—žà¸´ì˜¤—Ÿà¸´Ê”

[8~{} Uncle Weed Monster

On 8/6/2015 2:49 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
In the urban centers of Southern Africa, the
middle class Africans use lion blood to kill
weeds that pop up between the stones on their
patios. The natural insecticide isn't as widely
available as it once was because of dwindling
supplies which will now be cut off because of
new government regulations. The hapless home
owners are hunting for a supply of the
environmentally safe herbicide wherever they can
find it but may be forced to rely on illegal
foreign sources for the extremely effective
natural product. Foreign suppliers are complaining
that it's so difficult for them to get ahead. Ê•—žà¸´ì˜¤—Ÿà¸´Ê”

[8~{} Uncle Weed Monster


The middle class Africans might contact Lioned Parenthood,
and see what they charge for lion fetal tissue. Rich
in all the weed killing properties. Just give it a spin
in a Waring Blendor, and add a couple ice cubes. Good to
go. No sampling on the way to the sidewalk.

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learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 8/7/2015 7:14 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 8/6/2015 2:49 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
In the urban centers of Southern Africa, the
middle class Africans use lion blood to kill
weeds that pop up between the stones on their
patios. The natural insecticide isn't as widely
available as it once was because of dwindling
supplies which will now be cut off because of
new government regulations. The hapless home
owners are hunting for a supply of the
environmentally safe herbicide wherever they can
find it but may be forced to rely on illegal
foreign sources for the extremely effective
natural product. Foreign suppliers are complaining
that it's so difficult for them to get ahead. Ê•—žà¸´ì˜¤—Ÿà¸´Ê”

[8~{} Uncle Weed Monster


The middle class Africans might contact Lioned Parenthood,
and see what they charge for lion fetal tissue. Rich
in all the weed killing properties. Just give it a spin
in a Waring Blendor, and add a couple ice cubes. Good to
go. No sampling on the way to the sidewalk.


{{{gag}}}

--
Maggie

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:34:53 -0500, wrote in


Is there some chemical made to stop this?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Roundup-1...0210/203687082

Works great.
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On 8/6/2015 7:31 AM, CRNG wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:34:53 -0500, wrote in


Is there some chemical made to stop this?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Roundup-1...0210/203687082

Works great.


Wife found one of these a couple of weeks ago when putting shopping cart
in remote container and there it sat in an another supposedly empty
cart. Wondered what it cost.

I've been using it on weeds growing in cracks and areas where nothing is
to grow. Takes a few days to see results but as you say, works great.

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 7:31:42 AM UTC-4, CRNG wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:34:53 -0500, wrote in


Is there some chemical made to stop this?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Roundup-1...0210/203687082

Works great.
--

Roundup works to kill what's there, but won't prevent more from
immediately starting to germinate. Also, if you use more than
a minimal amount of Roundup, you can buy the generic glyphosate
chemical from online sources for ~$75 for 2.5 gallons of 48%
concentrate. That's enough to make 250 gallons, it works out
to 30 cents a gallon, compared to $10 to $20 for a gallon of
readymade at HD.

The other choice is one of the extended duration products that
not only kills the weeds, but keeps new ones from germinating
for most of the season.

On 8/6/15 7:31 AM, CRNG wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 05:34:53 -0500, wrote
in

Is there some chemical made to stop this?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Roundup-1...0210/203687082

Works great.


More than once, a neighbor bought that stuff for me to apply along her
fences and driveway cracks. I was always glad when I ran out because I
found it a hassle.

Enough store-brand glyphosate to make 20 gallons costs less than the
above item. I mix it in a 1-gallon Chapin 20000. The sprayers HD sells
may be similar; some may even be the same thing under different labels.

To measure, I use a sort of plastic test tube with a scoop on the end,
sold in a healthcare aisle for measuring medicine. It's marked in ml. I
just have to remember, 15ml = 1 tablespoon, 30ml = 1 ounce.

I'll often mix just a quart. The sprayer will spray down to the last
ounce. The wand extends 15" beyond my hand, which makes it easier to
apply precisely if I'm walking along treating hundreds of feet. The
pattern is infinitely adjustable from a broad mist to a stream. For
real precision, it can spray at a low pressure, where the herbicide
trickles out.

I won't mix a batch for weeds in cracks, but it's easy to get them on
the way by when I mix a quart for other problems.

It takes several days to see results from glyphosate. HD has some
Spectracide concentrate that works in hours.

On 8/6/2015 5:34 AM, wrote:
Last summer I put in a small patio, using 16" pre-cast blocks. I put
sand under the blocks, and it's remained pretty level. But due to it's
location, I have had muddy water run across it after heavy rain. I'm
presently working on installing some drainage pipes for rain water.

But the reason for posting this is because there is grass and weeds
growing between the blocks
Any tips????

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On 2015-08-06, wrote:

Is there some chemical made to stop this?

Is there some reason why you cannot get down on yer knees and pull the
weeds?

IMO, there are waaaaay too many ppl shortcutting to toxic chemicals to
solve their problems in an easy fashion. Kills me that ppl berate
big-ag for using too many chemicals, then uses the same toxins at
home.

BTW, I have the same problem. Plus, I'm an ancient geezer who
deplores weeding. Buy some knee pads and gloves and get some
exercise.

nb

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 10:04:14 AM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2015-08-06, wrote:

Is there some chemical made to stop this?

Is there some reason why you cannot get down on yer knees and pull the
weeds?

Pulling them disturbs the dirt that's there, which just makes it
easier for more weeds to grow. Also, many times with pulling, you
just break off the top of the weed, the rest stays and continues to
grow.



IMO, there are waaaaay too many ppl shortcutting to toxic chemicals to
solve their problems in an easy fashion. Kills me that ppl berate
big-ag for using too many chemicals, then uses the same toxins at
home.

BTW, I have the same problem. Plus, I'm an ancient geezer who
deplores weeding.

Apparently you don't deplore it as much as you do using a chemical
that's safe, widely used and very effective if used properly.
I just used glyphosate on my patio, beds, etc.

On 2015-08-06, trader_4 wrote:

Apparently you don't deplore it as much as you do using a chemical
that's safe.....

"Safe"? Now there's a term I've never heard applied to glyphosate.

Is that "safe" as in Agent Orange "safe" or PCB "safe" or DDT "safe"?

nb

On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 12:14:52 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2015-08-06, trader_4 wrote:

Apparently you don't deplore it as much as you do using a chemical
that's safe.....

"Safe"? Now there's a term I've never heard applied to glyphosate.

Of course you haven't because you only look at one side and
have your mind made up regardless of the facts.

On 2015-08-06, trader_4 wrote:

Of course you haven't because you only look at one side and
have your mind made up regardless of the facts.

I notice you did not address the other part of my post. What is an
indisputable "fact", is, Monsanto has been lying to, --let's not
forget poisoning!-- us, for decades.

nb

notbob writes:

On 2015-08-06, trader_4 wrote:

Apparently you don't deplore it as much as you do using a chemical
that's safe.....

"Safe"? Now there's a term I've never heard applied to glyphosate.

Is that "safe" as in Agent Orange "safe" or PCB "safe" or DDT "safe"?

Uh, it's "you can drink it" safe.

Never heard the term applied to glycophosphate?
You don't get around much.

--
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On 2015-08-06, Dan Espen wrote:

Uh, it's "you can drink it" safe.

You are quoting who? Monsanto?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM

Never heard the term applied to glycophosphate?

I get around enough to know when I'm being lied to.

nb

On 8/6/2015 1:45 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
notbob writes:

On 2015-08-06, trader_4 wrote:

Apparently you don't deplore it as much as you do using a chemical
that's safe.....

"Safe"? Now there's a term I've never heard applied to glyphosate.

Is that "safe" as in Agent Orange "safe" or PCB "safe" or DDT "safe"?

Uh, it's "you can drink it" safe.

Never heard the term applied to glycophosphate?
You don't get around much.


I can drink orange juice, but that doesn't mean it
is safe to pour in my lawn.

Can't quote the source, but on TV one time I saw
a guy claim it was drink it safe. The TV guy
reached under the table and pulled out a spray
bottle of roundup he said he bought earlier that
day. Invited the guy to drink it, the guy
refused. Wisely so, I think.

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trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 10:04:14 AM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2015-08-06, wrote:

Is there some chemical made to stop this?

Is there some reason why you cannot get down on yer knees and pull the
weeds?

Pulling them disturbs the dirt that's there, which just makes it
easier for more weeds to grow. Also, many times with pulling, you
just break off the top of the weed, the rest stays and continues to
grow.

There is special sand you use to fill the gap between blocks. It settle
like a hard rock preventing weed growth. I bought and used this stuff
from HD when I prepared my front patio.

On 8/6/2015 9:04 AM, notbob wrote:
On 2015-08-06, wrote:

Is there some chemical made to stop this?

Is there some reason why you cannot get down on yer knees and pull the
weeds?


I use boiling water. A friend gave me her old electric teakettle, I
keep it in the garage and fill it from the outside tap when I take
action against the weeds in cracks. If you've got a surplus tank
sprayer, just fill that with boiling water and you won't even have to
lean over to nail the weeds.

Yes, more weeds will eventually sprout, but it's no big deal. I only
need to do it three or four times a season.

You probably have every thing you need in your kitchen and/or laundry room. Take a gallon of vinegar mix in a cup of salt and a half cup of dish detergent. Mix it up and spray it on a nice day with no rain in the forecast. You will notice it to start dying in a couple of hours. In a day or two it will all be dead. That is what I do and it works great.

Jim

Is there some chemical made to stop this?

On 8/8/15 6:13 PM, wrote:
You probably have every thing you need in your kitchen and/or laundry
room. Take a gallon of vinegar mix in a cup of salt and a half cup
of dish detergent. Mix it up and spray it on a nice day with no rain
in the forecast. You will notice it to start dying in a couple of
hours. In a day or two it will all be dead. That is what I do and
it works great.

Jim



As with glyphosate and anything else that doesn't poison the soil, new
weeds will sprout. It may be easier to pull them than to respray.
There probably won't be many, and they won't be firmly rooted.

" writes:

You probably have every thing you need in your kitchen and/or laundry
room. Take a gallon of vinegar mix in a cup of salt and a half cup of
dish detergent. Mix it up and spray it on a nice day with no rain in
the forecast. You will notice it to start dying in a couple of hours.
In a day or two it will all be dead. That is what I do and it works
great.

I don't think salt is a good idea:

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/rock-sa...nts-56853.html

Soil Changes

A major problem with using rock salt even in small concentrations is
that is tends to stay in the soil for years until water leaches it
out. The salt raises soil salinity, which dehydrates the roots of plants
and keeps them from absorbing necessary nutrients. If you add too much
rock salt and it begins to affect plants you want to keep, as well as
ones you want to kill, start watering the plants deeply every day to try
to flush the salt out of the soil. You might not be able to save those
plants, because it could take months of daily watering to return the
soil to a viable salinity, but you can restore the soil so that new
plants can grow.

Where to Use It

Salt doesn't always stay where it's put -- it can be washed off into
your flower bed or lawn, killing large swaths of plants you want to
keep. Some salt-tolerant plants such as the bigleaf hydrangea (Hydrangea
macrophylla) can survive a bit of runoff, but not a full concentration
of rock salt applied nearby. Apply the salt on a day with no chance of
rain to let it soak in where you want it without the possibility of
runoff. The best places to use rock salt are those where you don't ever
want plants to grow, such as cracks in your driveway or along fence
lines.

--
Dan Espen

Dan Espen wrote:
" writes:

You probably have every thing you need in your kitchen and/or laundry
room. Take a gallon of vinegar mix in a cup of salt and a half cup of
dish detergent. Mix it up and spray it on a nice day with no rain in
the forecast. You will notice it to start dying in a couple of hours.
In a day or two it will all be dead. That is what I do and it works
great.

I don't think salt is a good idea:

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/rock-sa...nts-56853.html

Soil Changes

A major problem with using rock salt even in small concentrations is
that is tends to stay in the soil for years until water leaches it
out. The salt raises soil salinity, which dehydrates the roots of plants
and keeps them from absorbing necessary nutrients. If you add too much
rock salt and it begins to affect plants you want to keep, as well as
ones you want to kill, start watering the plants deeply every day to try
to flush the salt out of the soil. You might not be able to save those
plants, because it could take months of daily watering to return the
soil to a viable salinity, but you can restore the soil so that new
plants can grow.

Where to Use It

Salt doesn't always stay where it's put -- it can be washed off into
your flower bed or lawn, killing large swaths of plants you want to
keep. Some salt-tolerant plants such as the bigleaf hydrangea (Hydrangea
macrophylla) can survive a bit of runoff, but not a full concentration
of rock salt applied nearby. Apply the salt on a day with no chance of
rain to let it soak in where you want it without the possibility of
runoff. The best places to use rock salt are those where you don't ever
want plants to grow, such as cracks in your driveway or along fence
lines.

I used some kinda formulated sand to fill the gaps between paving
stones. This looks like fine sand in white color. What it does it it
settles very hard making it hard for the seeds to grow. I got it by the
bags from local HD.