So one of the springs (one per garage door - there are two doors) has
snapped after 30+ years (they just don't make things like they used to)

I have been doing the work of the spring to put my truck away at night
(not leaving it out in this neighborhood).

Now I am sure I could replace the spring myself... I used to rewind the
cables and/or reset and balance the dual springs on a condo garage door
in my past (so I am sure I know what I am doing - I have seen all of the
warnings). But, these doors are 30+ years old. They are showing some
signs of rot along the bottom (Noted when I replaced the weather
stripping last summer) and the openers are original to the home...

I am trying to decide if it is time to get new metal doors, new hardware
and openers? From what I can see on-line all in I am probably looking at
$900 - $1400 CAD per door (installed).

Does anyone have recent experience or thoughts?

Thanks!

I had the same problem, since it was the garage door on an old
detached garage I got the cheapest one Lowe's had and installed it. An
easy job, the old door was wood and the hardware was heavier. I didn't
have to change the rails and the new rollers are plastic. For that old
garage it looks nice, is lighter and will probably be there when I'm
long gone.
250 bucks for the door, keep the springs coated with oil so they
don't rust and they will last longer.

On Friday, July 24, 2015 at 12:51:41 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:45:22 -0700, NedFlanders
wrote:

So one of the springs (one per garage door - there are two doors) has
snapped after 30+ years (they just don't make things like they used to)

I have been doing the work of the spring to put my truck away at night
(not leaving it out in this neighborhood).

Now I am sure I could replace the spring myself... I used to rewind the
cables and/or reset and balance the dual springs on a condo garage door
in my past (so I am sure I know what I am doing - I have seen all of the
warnings). But, these doors are 30+ years old. They are showing some
signs of rot along the bottom (Noted when I replaced the weather
stripping last summer) and the openers are original to the home...

I am trying to decide if it is time to get new metal doors, new hardware
and openers? From what I can see on-line all in I am probably looking at
$900 - $1400 CAD per door (installed).

Does anyone have recent experience or thoughts?

Thanks!

Are they torsion springs or the old tension type. The old ones are
easy, with the door up, it should be slack.
Torsion springs are tougher since you are usually winding them up to
full load. and you have to unwind the good one to get the bar off.
You will need some 1/2" cold rolled steel bars to wind them up and
safely unwind the good one. I bought a 3' stick at the hardware store
and cut it in half. You stick one in a hole in the hub and start
winding or unwinding. Take a quarter turn, stick in the second bar,
hold it while you pull out the first one and just keep going like that
until you have it unwound. It will help later if you count the turns
it took to unwind.
You want to wind them up until you have reduced the weight on the door
to a point where you can open it easily. Tighten up the locking screws
and try it. You are looking for the balance of easy to open and not
pushing too far that way when you are at the top so it will close
easily. Most of this is being sure you have the right spring.
Duplicating the original number of turns is a good starting point.

since the door is in aged / poor condition your better off replacing at least one, then the other if money is tight.

at home resale old garage doors can hurt, and at least you get to enjoy the new door.

plus new openers have sensors to keep a kid from being crushed.

On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:45:22 -0700, NedFlanders
wrote:

So one of the springs (one per garage door - there are two doors) has
snapped after 30+ years (they just don't make things like they used to)

I have been doing the work of the spring to put my truck away at night
(not leaving it out in this neighborhood).

Now I am sure I could replace the spring myself... I used to rewind the
cables and/or reset and balance the dual springs on a condo garage door
in my past (so I am sure I know what I am doing - I have seen all of the
warnings). But, these doors are 30+ years old. They are showing some
signs of rot along the bottom (Noted when I replaced the weather
stripping last summer) and the openers are original to the home...

I am trying to decide if it is time to get new metal doors, new hardware
and openers? From what I can see on-line all in I am probably looking at
$900 - $1400 CAD per door (installed).

Does anyone have recent experience or thoughts?

Thanks!

I had a non-insulate metal door (18'x7') installed last year.
Detached garage.
It replaced the wood one, which was about 50 years old.
That door was in decent shape, but since the hardware was 50 years old
and wood doors are very heavy I didn't want it over my head. Add to
that the electric opener was shot, and I hate painting.
It needed painting
The metal door with opener, keypad, entry door button and 2 remotes
cost $980 installed. Included hauling away the old door.
I like it. Less strain on the opener motor. No painting.
I think you can pick up the same door for about $4-500. I didn't
price openers. They installed a Genie.
I was going to do it myself but decided to get it installed after
considering the cost, hauling away old door, and having a pro do it.
The door has no handle, and for some reason I miss that.
Of course I could put one on, but I don't see a need for it.

On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:45:22 -0700, NedFlanders
wrote:

So one of the springs (one per garage door - there are two doors) has
snapped after 30+ years (they just don't make things like they used to)

I have been doing the work of the spring to put my truck away at night
(not leaving it out in this neighborhood).

Now I am sure I could replace the spring myself... I used to rewind the
cables and/or reset and balance the dual springs on a condo garage door
in my past (so I am sure I know what I am doing - I have seen all of the
warnings). But, these doors are 30+ years old. They are showing some
signs of rot along the bottom (Noted when I replaced the weather
stripping last summer) and the openers are original to the home...

I am trying to decide if it is time to get new metal doors, new hardware
and openers? From what I can see on-line all in I am probably looking at
$900 - $1400 CAD per door (installed).

Does anyone have recent experience or thoughts?

Thanks!

Home Depot now sells Martin doors and have a display in the store.
Rails are much better and rollers are nylon. IMO, the quietest door
on the market. Good insulation valve. I got a energy tax rebate. New
single door was ~ $1200 installed by certified Martin tech. Then the
rebate brought the cost down a bit.

I've personally seen 10 of these doors installed in new construction
jobs. No affiliation with the company but a very happy customer.

Buying the door via HD you can save some money too. Take a ride to HD
and have a look. The display is a scaled model that you can operate
yourself.

Here is the Martin site, family owned company in Utah. Buying local
will save some cost.

http://www.martindoor.com/residential/garage-doors

Outstanding resource for repairs, parts and support (reported by a
poster in this group)

http://ddmgaragedoors.com/index.php

Another link from a former poster here.

http://truetex.com/garage.htm

YMMV

NedFlanders wrote:
So one of the springs (one per garage door - there are two doors) has
snapped after 30+ years (they just don't make things like they used to)

I have been doing the work of the spring to put my truck away at night
(not leaving it out in this neighborhood).

Now I am sure I could replace the spring myself... I used to rewind the
cables and/or reset and balance the dual springs on a condo garage door
in my past (so I am sure I know what I am doing - I have seen all of the
warnings). But, these doors are 30+ years old. They are showing some
signs of rot along the bottom (Noted when I replaced the weather
stripping last summer) and the openers are original to the home...

I am trying to decide if it is time to get new metal doors, new hardware
and openers? From what I can see on-line all in I am probably looking at
$900 - $1400 CAD per door (installed).

Does anyone have recent experience or thoughts?

Thanks!

If you are in Canada steel craft foam core door will be a good choice.
You can have it prepainted with your choice color.
For opener I'd pick belt or screw drive. Ours is 140V DC motor screw
drive which is very quiet and has good speed. If you have lots of time
at hand you can do it yourself.

Oren wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:45:22 -0700, NedFlanders
wrote:

So one of the springs (one per garage door - there are two doors) has
snapped after 30+ years (they just don't make things like they used to)

I have been doing the work of the spring to put my truck away at night
(not leaving it out in this neighborhood).

Now I am sure I could replace the spring myself... I used to rewind the
cables and/or reset and balance the dual springs on a condo garage door
in my past (so I am sure I know what I am doing - I have seen all of the
warnings). But, these doors are 30+ years old. They are showing some
signs of rot along the bottom (Noted when I replaced the weather
stripping last summer) and the openers are original to the home...

I am trying to decide if it is time to get new metal doors, new hardware
and openers? From what I can see on-line all in I am probably looking at
$900 - $1400 CAD per door (installed).

Does anyone have recent experience or thoughts?

Thanks!

Home Depot now sells Martin doors and have a display in the store.
Rails are much better and rollers are nylon. IMO, the quietest door
on the market. Good insulation valve. I got a energy tax rebate. New
single door was ~ $1200 installed by certified Martin tech. Then the
rebate brought the cost down a bit.

I've personally seen 10 of these doors installed in new construction
jobs. No affiliation with the company but a very happy customer.

Buying the door via HD you can save some money too. Take a ride to HD
and have a look. The display is a scaled model that you can operate
yourself.

Here is the Martin site, family owned company in Utah. Buying local
will save some cost.

http://www.martindoor.com/residential/garage-doors

Outstanding resource for repairs, parts and support (reported by a
poster in this group)

http://ddmgaragedoors.com/index.php

Another link from a former poster here.

http://truetex.com/garage.htm

YMMV

I think Teflon rollers are quieter. That's what I installed when old
Nylon rollers were pretty worn.

"NedFlanders" wrote in message ...


You know the dog of Flanders, by chance?

Tony Hwang wrote:
NedFlanders wrote:
So one of the springs (one per garage door - there are two doors) has
snapped after 30+ years (they just don't make things like they used
to)

I have been doing the work of the spring to put my truck away at night
(not leaving it out in this neighborhood).

Now I am sure I could replace the spring myself... I used to rewind the
cables and/or reset and balance the dual springs on a condo garage door
in my past (so I am sure I know what I am doing - I have seen all of the
warnings). But, these doors are 30+ years old. They are showing some
signs of rot along the bottom (Noted when I replaced the weather
stripping last summer) and the openers are original to the home...

I am trying to decide if it is time to get new metal doors, new hardware
and openers? From what I can see on-line all in I am probably looking at
$900 - $1400 CAD per door (installed).

Does anyone have recent experience or thoughts?

Thanks!

If you are in Canada steel craft foam core door will be a good choice.
You can have it prepainted with your choice color.
For opener I'd pick belt or screw drive. Ours is 140V DC motor screw
drive which is very quiet and has good speed. If you have lots of time
at hand you can do it yourself.

Well after reading all your replies I think I am just going to bite the
bullet and get new doors and hardware. I am going to go check out what
the Big Boxes have tomorrow and maybe call a few local installers for
some quotes.

The old openers have never impressed me. They are chain drive, old
technology as far as the wireless code is concerned. Both of the openers
often drip lubricant the one over my truck drips on to my windshield.

I probably need new rollers all around.

I may opt for some insulation even though the walls of the garage are
not insulated. My wife runs a business out of one side so it might help
keep some of the heat in when she is running the space heater in the winter.

I would consider installing it myself but I might get a tighter fit
letting the pro's do it. The current doors have gaps as wide as 1/2" in
some places that let quite a bit of the wind blow thru and the panels
rattle around a lot in the wind.

Thanks for all your input!

On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 2:29:42 AM UTC-4, NedFlanders wrote:
Tony Hwang wrote:
NedFlanders wrote:
So one of the springs (one per garage door - there are two doors) has
snapped after 30+ years (they just don't make things like they used
to)

I have been doing the work of the spring to put my truck away at night
(not leaving it out in this neighborhood).

Now I am sure I could replace the spring myself... I used to rewind the
cables and/or reset and balance the dual springs on a condo garage door
in my past (so I am sure I know what I am doing - I have seen all of the
warnings). But, these doors are 30+ years old. They are showing some
signs of rot along the bottom (Noted when I replaced the weather
stripping last summer) and the openers are original to the home...

I am trying to decide if it is time to get new metal doors, new hardware
and openers? From what I can see on-line all in I am probably looking at
$900 - $1400 CAD per door (installed).

Does anyone have recent experience or thoughts?

Thanks!

If you are in Canada steel craft foam core door will be a good choice.
You can have it prepainted with your choice color.
For opener I'd pick belt or screw drive. Ours is 140V DC motor screw
drive which is very quiet and has good speed. If you have lots of time
at hand you can do it yourself.

Well after reading all your replies I think I am just going to bite the
bullet and get new doors and hardware. I am going to go check out what
the Big Boxes have tomorrow and maybe call a few local installers for
some quotes.

The old openers have never impressed me. They are chain drive, old
technology as far as the wireless code is concerned. Both of the openers
often drip lubricant the one over my truck drips on to my windshield.

I probably need new rollers all around.

I may opt for some insulation even though the walls of the garage are
not insulated. My wife runs a business out of one side so it might help
keep some of the heat in when she is running the space heater in the winter.

I would consider installing it myself but I might get a tighter fit
letting the pro's do it. The current doors have gaps as wide as 1/2" in
some places that let quite a bit of the wind blow thru and the panels
rattle around a lot in the wind.

Thanks for all your input!

while your at it why not get the building insulated. it will be more comfy, cut heating and cooling costs. a real win win