Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T

On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:13:11 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T

If the existing paint is textured and only the peeling spots
have been sanded, then I don't see how the texture is going
to match unless it's all sanded.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2015 14:19:30 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:13:11 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T

If the existing paint is textured and only the peeling spots
have been sanded, then I don't see how the texture is going
to match unless it's all sanded.

+1 Wash a textured wall down with TSP (red box, the real stuff), then
prime and paint. As you say. Sanded texture walls cause fits.

Or skim coat the entire bathroom with joint compound.

On 06/06/2015 02:19 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:13:11 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T

If the existing paint is textured and only the peeling spots
have been sanded, then I don't see how the texture is going
to match unless it's all sanded.


The bads spots are the 4" paper tape about the top of the shower's
fiber glass wall. It won't really show

On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:31:49 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 06/06/2015 02:19 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:13:11 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T

If the existing paint is textured and only the peeling spots
have been sanded, then I don't see how the texture is going
to match unless it's all sanded.


The bads spots are the 4" paper tape about the top of the shower's
fiber glass wall. It won't really show.

If the differences in texture aren't a problem and the existing
paint is flat, sound, then no need for primer. Just apply two
coats of your new quality paint.

On 06/06/2015 02:37 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:31:49 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 06/06/2015 02:19 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:13:11 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T

If the existing paint is textured and only the peeling spots
have been sanded, then I don't see how the texture is going
to match unless it's all sanded.


The bads spots are the 4" paper tape about the top of the shower's
fiber glass wall. It won't really show.

If the differences in texture aren't a problem and the existing
paint is flat, sound, then no need for primer. Just apply two
coats of your new quality paint.


If it helps your analysis, the original paint is 20+ years old.

Oh ya, the paint cost me out the nose.

On 6/6/2015 5:48 PM, T wrote:
On 06/06/2015 02:37 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:31:49 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 06/06/2015 02:19 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:13:11 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T

If the existing paint is textured and only the peeling spots
have been sanded, then I don't see how the texture is going
to match unless it's all sanded.


The bads spots are the 4" paper tape about the top of the shower's
fiber glass wall. It won't really show.

If the differences in texture aren't a problem and the existing
paint is flat, sound, then no need for primer. Just apply two
coats of your new quality paint.


If it helps your analysis, the original paint is 20+ years old.

Oh ya, the paint cost me out the nose.

If it were me, I'd try the match the spot that you sanded and repaired
with a texture, use a tinted prime one time on the repaired spot - let
it dry, and then prime the entire wall to match before I put on a new
paint in the bathroom. I've done 2 bathrooms and repaired various walls
in both. That worked very well. You may not want to go that that much
trouble, though.

--
rebel

On 6/6/2015 5:13 PM, T wrote:
Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T


I hate textured paint, especially in a bathroom. I'd use ceramic tile
and done forever.At least 5' up.

On 06/06/2015 03:53 PM, rebel wrote:
On 6/6/2015 5:48 PM, T wrote:
On 06/06/2015 02:37 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:31:49 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 06/06/2015 02:19 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:13:11 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T

If the existing paint is textured and only the peeling spots
have been sanded, then I don't see how the texture is going
to match unless it's all sanded.


The bads spots are the 4" paper tape about the top of the shower's
fiber glass wall. It won't really show.

If the differences in texture aren't a problem and the existing
paint is flat, sound, then no need for primer. Just apply two
coats of your new quality paint.


If it helps your analysis, the original paint is 20+ years old.

Oh ya, the paint cost me out the nose.

If it were me, I'd try the match the spot that you sanded and repaired
with a texture, use a tinted prime one time on the repaired spot - let
it dry, and then prime the entire wall to match before I put on a new
paint in the bathroom. I've done 2 bathrooms and repaired various walls
in both. That worked very well. You may not want to go that that much
trouble, though.



Prime the sanded spot (Spackle and all) one by itself, then prime
the entire wall.

I am, using dead white, so I never have to bug with tints.

Thank you!

On 06/06/2015 02:37 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:31:49 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 06/06/2015 02:19 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:13:11 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T

If the existing paint is textured and only the peeling spots
have been sanded, then I don't see how the texture is going
to match unless it's all sanded.


The bads spots are the 4" paper tape about the top of the shower's
fiber glass wall. It won't really show.

If the differences in texture aren't a problem and the existing
paint is flat, sound, then no need for primer. Just apply two
coats of your new quality paint.


You know, it just occurred to me, my s***ty job of Spackle will
probably make it look texturized!

On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 16:36:45 -0700, T wrote:
You know, it just occurred to me, my s***ty job of
Spackle will probably make it look texturized!

You can add a bit more spackel till it actually does match the walls
texture. Just let it dry thoroughly in case it shrinks a bit, you
can touch it up before you prime it.

--
rebel

On 6/6/2015 6:36 PM, T wrote:
On 06/06/2015 02:37 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:31:49 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 06/06/2015 02:19 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:13:11 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T

If the existing paint is textured and only the peeling spots
have been sanded, then I don't see how the texture is going
to match unless it's all sanded.


The bads spots are the 4" paper tape about the top of the shower's
fiber glass wall. It won't really show.

If the differences in texture aren't a problem and the existing
paint is flat, sound, then no need for primer. Just apply two
coats of your new quality paint.


You know, it just occurred to me, my s***ty job of Spackle will
probably make it look texturized!


And I've had great luck blending it (Spackle) or drywall compound using
a small sponge and feathering it out. Let it dry and maybe knock down
any high spots dragging a 4" or 5" mud knife across it. What's the
worse that can happen? High spots, doesn't look quite right? A bit
more Spackle or compound and see if the second time is the charm.

For your application you should be able to kill it the first time. Once
it looks good, you DO want to prime it, just like you would any fresh
drywall otherwise the compound is going to suck that paint up like a
hooker on the strip outside a busy port when the fleet's in!

On 06/06/2015 05:26 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 6/6/2015 6:36 PM, T wrote:
On 06/06/2015 02:37 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:31:49 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
On 06/06/2015 02:19 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 5:13:11 PM UTC-4, T wrote:
Hi All,

It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
or do I both sand and prime?

The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
already and waiting Spackle.

Many thanks,
-T

If the existing paint is textured and only the peeling spots
have been sanded, then I don't see how the texture is going
to match unless it's all sanded.


The bads spots are the 4" paper tape about the top of the shower's
fiber glass wall. It won't really show.

If the differences in texture aren't a problem and the existing
paint is flat, sound, then no need for primer. Just apply two
coats of your new quality paint.


You know, it just occurred to me, my s***ty job of Spackle will
probably make it look texturized!


And I've had great luck blending it (Spackle) or drywall compound using
a small sponge and feathering it out. Let it dry and maybe knock down
any high spots dragging a 4" or 5" mud knife across it. What's the
worse that can happen? High spots, doesn't look quite right? A bit
more Spackle or compound and see if the second time is the charm.

For your application you should be able to kill it the first time. Once
it looks good, you DO want to prime it, just like you would any fresh
drywall otherwise the compound is going to suck that paint up like a
hooker on the strip outside a busy port when the fleet's in!




Thank you!

On 06/06/2015 05:08 PM, rebel wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 16:36:45 -0700, T wrote:
You know, it just occurred to me, my s***ty job of
Spackle will probably make it look texturized!

You can add a bit more spackel till it actually does match the walls
texture. Just let it dry thoroughly in case it shrinks a bit, you can
touch it up before you prime it.


Thank you!

So do a crappy job on purpose. I am up to it! :-)

On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 19:08:36 -0500, rebel wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 16:36:45 -0700, T wrote:
You know, it just occurred to me, my s***ty job of
Spackle will probably make it look texturized!

You can add a bit more spackel till it actually does match the walls
texture. Just let it dry thoroughly in case it shrinks a bit, you
can touch it up before you prime it.
And prime it with an oil or shelac based primer to keep the water
from the primer/paint from saturating the repair, making it bubble and
blister

| It is time to paint my bathroom wall. Do I just prime
| or do I both sand and prime?
|
| The current paint it textured, so sanding would only affect
| about 40%. And I have all the pealing spot sanded flat
| already and waiting Spackle.
|

I don't know how you'd sand textured paint. I might
wash it with TSP solution if it looks like it needs it.

Texture is unfortunate. I like to paint bathrooms with
low-sheen oil. (Lately I'm using Sherwin Williams Pro
Classic alkyd satin.) Water base paint is porous and
lets moisture through, eventually causing peeling in
a steamy bathroom -- especially where there's joint
compund underneath. Oil paint is not impervious to
that, but it works much better than water base. But
it sounds like you have water-base paint in tough
shape, painted over some kind of stucco plaster. Oil paint
over that might just compound the problem. Unless you
want to redo the whole thing I'd just wipe it down
with 1 tsp TSP in a 1/2 gallon very hot water, then
paint a low-sheen acrylic over that. It would be good,
though, to prime the patches and bare spackle/compound.
Many acrylic paints now claim to be self-priming. That
doesn't make sense to me. If it doesn't soak in to
compound or drywall then it's not priming.

| And prime it with an oil or shelac based primer to keep the water
| from the primer/paint from saturating the repair, making it bubble and
| blister

It's never a good idea to prime with oil or
shellac paints on plaster/compound, especially
in a bathroom. The primer should saturate
the repair. That's what primer is for. Oil
primer is likely to sit on top.

You didn't say exactly what kind of texture it
has. You didn't say sand paint, so I'm guessing
maybe stucco-esque. With stucco, like the stuff
that was fashionable early in the 1900s, I have
good luck with the following method of creating
patches to match after scraping paint:

* Spread joint compound liberally over the area,
with some depth to it. (1/8" to 3/16", maybe?)
This method won't work if it's too thin.

* Crumple up a page of newspaper and wet it a bit.

* Dab the are with the newspaper, creating lots of little peaks.

After it's dry, use a cotton rag and plenty of water
to smooth out the peaks and bring them down flat.

The result should look similar to the surrounding stucco.

On Sunday, June 7, 2015 at 9:37:55 AM UTC-4, Mayayana wrote:
| And prime it with an oil or shelac based primer to keep the water
| from the primer/paint from saturating the repair, making it bubble and
| blister

It's never a good idea to prime with oil or
shellac paints on plaster/compound, especially
in a bathroom. The primer should saturate
the repair. That's what primer is for. Oil
primer is likely to sit on top.

IDK what the problem is. If he's OK with the texture not
matching, then just prime the sanded spots, and apply
2 coats of paint.

On Sun, 7 Jun 2015 06:46:32 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

IDK what the problem is. If he's OK with the texture not
matching, then just prime the sanded spots, and apply
2 coats of paint.

As Bubba often says: "It looks good from my house!"