What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way older than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed. Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady approaches or leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that these very same geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today. What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary

Ivan Vegvary writes:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these =
people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this on a 35 and=
under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way older than me (72) a=
nd come in with wives that are nicely dressed. Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady approaches or =
leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that these very same ge=
ezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today. W=
hat has happened?


Styles change. Conventions change. Everything changes. Bitching about
change is pointless.

On 5/21/15 10:50 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did
these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this
on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way
older than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed.
Baseball caps? Come on! I realize that I'm old fashioned (still
stand up when a lady approaches or leaves a table, or enters a room)
but I'm convinced that these very same geezers would not have worn a
hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today. What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary


Chefs and waiters wear hats. At one time, hats were worn for protection
from sun, cold, rain, and dirt. It seemed unsanitary to wear one at
dinner. That's not a problem with a hat that's obviously clean.

In western movies, cowboys often wore their dirty hats at the table.
That was probably realistic. If the establishment didn't have a
hat-check girl, somebody might walk off with their Stetson while their
back was turned. I don't recall eating at a restaurant with a staff
member to guard hats. Unless there's an empty seat, there may be no
place to put a hat.

A ball cap has little purpose but to shade the eyes. If you're low on
Vitamin A, light will bother your eyes. Vegetables and pills provide
precursors to Vitamin A. The first step to conversion is to eat them
with fats. Doctors have been telling us to avoid fats for 50 years; so
it stands to reason that a lot of people these days would be
uncomfortable without shade for their eyes.

In May of 1958, Marion Morrison attended a bullfight in Nogales. He wore
elevator shoes, a girdle, and a cowboy hat. When the crowd cheered, he
stood and tipped his hat. Then he realized he'd forgotten his wig. The
crowd went wild. In public, never take your hat off.

On 5/21/2015 11:02 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Ivan Vegvary writes:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these =
people learn their manners?



Styles change. Conventions change. Everything changes. Bitching about
change is pointless.


Change is just change, not necessarily an improvement. I'm old
fashioned too and I'd never wear a hat at the table. IMO, it looks ill
mannered.

I also rarely wear a ball cap. Only in the rain. In the sun I'll wear a
Panama hat and in the winter a Driving Cap.

Coupled with that is the ability to speak and not use curse words. My
parents have never heard me use the F word, but today, young people use
it in most every sentence. Women too. Yeah, it is just a word, but I
still think it uncouth in normal conversation. A well placed curse is
good punctuation, but should ber used on rare occasions whee it has real
meaning.

On 5/21/2015 9:50 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way older than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed. Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady approaches or leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that these very same geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today. What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary


I love old fashioned manners. Things just aren't what they used to be.

--
rebel

On 5/21/2015 1:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/21/2015 11:02 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Ivan Vegvary writes:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did
these =
people learn their manners?



Styles change. Conventions change. Everything changes. Bitching about
change is pointless.


Change is just change, not necessarily an improvement. I'm old
fashioned too and I'd never wear a hat at the table. IMO, it looks ill
mannered.

I also rarely wear a ball cap. Only in the rain. In the sun I'll wear a
Panama hat and in the winter a Driving Cap.

Coupled with that is the ability to speak and not use curse words. My
parents have never heard me use the F word, but today, young people use
it in most every sentence. Women too. Yeah, it is just a word, but I
still think it uncouth in normal conversation. A well placed curse is
good punctuation, but should ber used on rare occasions whee it has real
meaning.

I totally agree with you. Good post.

--
rebel

On Thu, 21 May 2015 14:11:38 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote
in

On 5/21/2015 11:02 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Ivan Vegvary writes:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these =
people learn their manners?



Styles change. Conventions change. Everything changes. Bitching about
change is pointless.


Change is just change, not necessarily an improvement. I'm old
fashioned too and I'd never wear a hat at the table. IMO, it looks ill
mannered.

I also rarely wear a ball cap. Only in the rain. In the sun I'll wear a
Panama hat and in the winter a Driving Cap.

Coupled with that is the ability to speak and not use curse words. My
parents have never heard me use the F word, but today, young people use
it in most every sentence. Women too. Yeah, it is just a word, but I
still think it uncouth in normal conversation. A well placed curse is
good punctuation, but should ber used on rare occasions whee it has real
meaning.

+1
--
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
newspapers delivered to your door every morning.

In article ,
Ed Pawlowski wrote:


Change is just change, not necessarily an improvement. I'm old
fashioned too and I'd never wear a hat at the table. IMO, it looks ill
mannered.

A hat should be taken off when you greet a lady and left off for the
rest of your life. Nothing looks more stupid than a hat.

P. J. O'Rourke
--
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital.²
‹ Aaron Levenstein

On Thu, 21 May 2015 14:31:25 -0500, rebel wrote:

I love old fashioned manners. Things just aren't what they used to be.

"RAVERSE CITY, Mich. – Police say a belligerent man dressed in scuba
gear caused a stir at a northern Michigan fast food restaurant."

[...]

"Regardless, Detective Sgt. James Bussell says that "as far as wearing
scuba gear and having a couple of beers, that's legal."

g

On 5/21/15 2:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Coupled with that is the ability to speak and not use curse words. My
parents have never heard me use the F word, but today, young people use
it in most every sentence. Women too. Yeah, it is just a word, but I
still think it uncouth in normal conversation. A well placed curse is
good punctuation, but should ber used on rare occasions whee it has real
meaning.

When I was 5 or 6, a couple of times I mentioned sweating to my father.
He snapped back, "Perspire! Animals sweat! People perspire!"

I don't know what animals except horses, sweat. There had been horses
on the streets when he'd been my age. I guess calling a person sweaty
was like calling the person a horse.

Profane words show disrespect for the listener. It's a matter of
consensus, which depends on time and place. In the US, "ass" is no
longer profane. The current UK list isn't quite the same as the US list.
Synonyms for profanity are perfectly acceptable.

When my niece was growing up, her parents, who considered themselves
quite educated, used profanity on her and on each other in her presence.
That disgusted me. It amounted to saying, "I win because I disrespect
you." It certainly wasn't necessary to use profanity on her. In case of
an important difference of opinion about what she should or shouldn't
do, I could win by my endless enthusiasm for arguing, like Sergeant
Carter convincing Gomer Pyle.

Once when she was 12, I found her watching TV more than an hour after
her bedtime because her parents weren't paying attention. I reminded
her. She replied with the F word. I'd never heard her use profanity
before. I didn't make an issue of it. She'd have to decide whether to
follow her parents' example. I never again heard her use profanity.

Profanity isn't profane in the Marines because voicing disrespect isn't
offensive. A friend was a drill instructor at Parris Island during his
12 years in the Marines. He and other drill instructors called their
gunnery sergeant the Deacon because he never used profanity. They were
afraid of him because he didn't need profanity to make a guy feel like
two cents if he'd done something wrong.

On 05/21/2015 10:02 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Ivan writes:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these =
people learn their manners? ...

Styles change. Conventions change. Everything changes. Bitching about
change is pointless.

Manners, otoh, _never_ go out of style.

--

Ivan Vegvary posted for all of us...



What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way older than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed. Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady approaches or leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that these very same geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today. What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary

I only wear a hat if the AC is freezing my bald ass skull.

--
Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

On Thu, 21 May 2015 07:50:11 -0700 (PDT), Ivan Vegvary
wrote:

What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did
these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this
on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way older
than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed. Baseball
caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady approaches or
leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that these very same
geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today.
What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary

I wish the only thing I had to worry about is what people wear on their
heads, and when / where they wear them!

In the real world, we all have needed home and auto repairs, health
issues, relationships to deal with, money matters, and so on.....
At the end of an often "difficult" day, if I go to a restaurant, I go
there to EAT. Not to get annoyed by what someone has on top of their
skull!

Yea, some people do look stupid the way they dress, and backward
baseball caps look assinine, but who cares. No one is harmed!

And by the way, what does this OFF TOPIC post have to do with home
repair?

On 5/21/2015 4:16 PM, dpb wrote:
On 05/21/2015 10:02 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Ivan writes:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did
these =
people learn their manners? ...

Styles change. Conventions change. Everything changes. Bitching about
change is pointless.

Manners, otoh, _never_ go out of style.

--


+ 1

I was thinking along the same lines after reading the above. Styles and
fads will always change but mannerism should never go out of style,
unfortunately, I see it is.

Hats are worn in restaurants, men no longer open doors nor stand up for
women and I seldom hear "no thank you" or "yes please" anymore. I blame
the "ME" society. We live in a selfishly inconsiderate world we're most
people don't give a **** about anyone but themselves. It's such a shame.

On Thu, 21 May 2015 16:14:39 -0400, J Burns wrote:


I don't know what animals except horses, sweat. There had been horses
on the streets when he'd been my age. I guess calling a person sweaty
was like calling the person a horse.

Being a horse lover and owner, I'd take that as a compliment!
Hoss (horse) from Bonanza was pretty cool guy too!

As a matter of fact, go ahead and call me an ASS.
I also love donkeys and own one of them too!

Hee Haw!

On 5/21/2015 2:57 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 14:31:25 -0500, rebel wrote:

I love old fashioned manners. Things just aren't what they used to be.

"RAVERSE CITY, Mich. – Police say a belligerent man dressed in scuba
gear caused a stir at a northern Michigan fast food restaurant."

[...]

"Regardless, Detective Sgt. James Bussell says that "as far as wearing
scuba gear and having a couple of beers, that's legal."

g


Now, scuba dear might get some female attention. lol

--
rebel

On 5/21/2015 3:14 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Coupled with that is the ability to speak and not use curse words. My
parents have never heard me use the F word, but today, young people use
it in most every sentence. Women too. Yeah, it is just a word, but I
still think it uncouth in normal conversation. A well placed curse is
good punctuation, but should ber used on rare occasions whee it has real
meaning.

When I was 5 or 6, a couple of times I mentioned sweating to my father.
He snapped back, "Perspire! Animals sweat! People perspire!"

I don't know what animals except horses, sweat. There had been horses
on the streets when he'd been my age. I guess calling a person sweaty
was like calling the person a horse.

Profane words show disrespect for the listener. It's a matter of
consensus, which depends on time and place. In the US, "ass" is no
longer profane. The current UK list isn't quite the same as the US list.
Synonyms for profanity are perfectly acceptable.

When my niece was growing up, her parents, who considered themselves
quite educated, used profanity on her and on each other in her presence.
That disgusted me. It amounted to saying, "I win because I disrespect
you." It certainly wasn't necessary to use profanity on her. In case of
an important difference of opinion about what she should or shouldn't
do, I could win by my endless enthusiasm for arguing, like Sergeant
Carter convincing Gomer Pyle.

Once when she was 12, I found her watching TV more than an hour after
her bedtime because her parents weren't paying attention. I reminded
her. She replied with the F word. I'd never heard her use profanity
before. I didn't make an issue of it. She'd have to decide whether to
follow her parents' example. I never again heard her use profanity.

Profanity isn't profane in the Marines because voicing disrespect isn't
offensive. A friend was a drill instructor at Parris Island during his
12 years in the Marines. He and other drill instructors called their
gunnery sergeant the Deacon because he never used profanity. They were
afraid of him because he didn't need profanity to make a guy feel like
two cents if he'd done something wrong.

I like that. The guy was smart.

--
rebel

On 5/21/2015 3:32 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
Ivan Vegvary posted for all of us...



What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way older than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed. Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady approaches or leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that these very same geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today. What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary

I only wear a hat if the AC is freezing my bald ass skull.


I've heard that a bald head is the new sexy!

--
rebel

On Thu, 21 May 2015 15:53:25 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
Ed Pawlowski wrote:


Change is just change, not necessarily an improvement. I'm old
fashioned too and I'd never wear a hat at the table. IMO, it looks ill
mannered.

A hat should be taken off when you greet a lady and left off for the
rest of your life. Nothing looks more stupid than a hat.

P. J. O'Rourke

If a naked cowgirl wants to wear boots and spurs to bed, does it seem
stupid? g

Giddy up cowboy.

On Thu, 21 May 2015 15:37:21 -0500, wrote:

And by the way, what does this OFF TOPIC post have to do with home
repair?

It may be meant to **** you off, Home Guy!

On 5/21/2015 10:50 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way older than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed. Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady approaches or leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that these very same geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today. What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary


Man wearing hat indoors suggests only one thing to me - he's bald

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
...
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these
people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this on a 35 and
under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way older than me (72) and
come in with wives that are nicely dressed. Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady approaches or
leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that these very same
geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today.
What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary

---------

Where are you going to meet a lady these days? Times have changed.

Ivan Vegvary wrote:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way older than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed. Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady approaches or leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that these very same geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today. What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary

Hat or cap? I wear cap pretty much head losing hairs makes me feel
chill, LOL! But I take it off indoor. Regarding treating ladies, I still
open and close the door of my car when she goes some place with me. Old
habit never dies.

rebel wrote:
On 5/21/2015 9:50 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did
these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this
on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way
older than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed.
Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady
approaches or leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that
these very same geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years
ago, but they do today. What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary


I love old fashioned manners. Things just aren't what they used to be.

Todays' folks are in too much rush in every thing all the time.

On 5/21/2015 6:46 PM, Frank wrote:


Man wearing hat indoors suggests only one thing to me - he's bald

You peekeed?

How'd you know!

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 5/21/2015 7:47 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
rebel wrote:
On 5/21/2015 9:50 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did
these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this
on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way
older than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed.
Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady
approaches or leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that
these very same geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years
ago, but they do today. What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary


I love old fashioned manners. Things just aren't what they used to be.

Todays' folks are in too much rush in every thing all the time.

That's true.

--
rebel

On 5/21/2015 3:53 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote:

A hat should be taken off when you greet a lady and left off for the
rest of your life. Nothing looks more stupid than a hat.

P. J. O'Rourke


P J must have lived in a warm climate. And had hair.

On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 3:14:43 PM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Coupled with that is the ability to speak and not use curse words. My
parents have never heard me use the F word, but today, young people use
it in most every sentence. Women too. Yeah, it is just a word, but I
still think it uncouth in normal conversation. A well placed curse is
good punctuation, but should ber used on rare occasions whee it has real
meaning.

When I was 5 or 6, a couple of times I mentioned sweating to my father.
He snapped back, "Perspire! Animals sweat! People perspire!"

I don't know what animals except horses, sweat. There had been horses
on the streets when he'd been my age. I guess calling a person sweaty
was like calling the person a horse.

Profane words show disrespect for the listener. It's a matter of
consensus, which depends on time and place. In the US, "ass" is no
longer profane. The current UK list isn't quite the same as the US list.
Synonyms for profanity are perfectly acceptable.

When my niece was growing up, her parents, who considered themselves
quite educated, used profanity on her and on each other in her presence.
That disgusted me. It amounted to saying, "I win because I disrespect
you." It certainly wasn't necessary to use profanity on her. In case of
an important difference of opinion about what she should or shouldn't
do, I could win by my endless enthusiasm for arguing, like Sergeant
Carter convincing Gomer Pyle.

Once when she was 12, I found her watching TV more than an hour after
her bedtime because her parents weren't paying attention. I reminded
her. She replied with the F word. I'd never heard her use profanity
before. I didn't make an issue of it. She'd have to decide whether to
follow her parents' example. I never again heard her use profanity.

Profanity isn't profane in the Marines because voicing disrespect isn't
offensive. A friend was a drill instructor at Parris Island during his
12 years in the Marines. He and other drill instructors called their
gunnery sergeant the Deacon because he never used profanity. They were
afraid of him because he didn't need profanity to make a guy feel like
two cents if he'd done something wrong.

I like to use technical and clinical terms or words that sound dirty instead of profanity to insult unpleasant people. For instance,

"Place your lips on my hindquarters, create a vacuum and pull away smartly."

"Sir, what has come out of your mouth is nothing more than a hot steaming pile of male bovine droppings."

"You can just leave a dental impression on my buttocks!"

"That's bull scat!"

"Go coitus yourself!"

"That's more of your scatological narrative"

"That's a load codswallop"

"She's an inanimate coitus"

"I perceive that your cranium is devoid of a mass to control your central nervous system."

And on and on. The funniest part is illiterate people often feel insulted because they no Idea what you're saying. Call a moron a "homosapien" and they'll get bent out of shape because they believe it means "homosexual".
Describe a Negro as "niggardly" and you know how they'll react. 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Dastardly Monster

In article ,
Oren wrote:

On Thu, 21 May 2015 15:53:25 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
Ed Pawlowski wrote:


Change is just change, not necessarily an improvement. I'm old
fashioned too and I'd never wear a hat at the table. IMO, it looks ill
mannered.

A hat should be taken off when you greet a lady and left off for the
rest of your life. Nothing looks more stupid than a hat.

P. J. O'Rourke

If a naked cowgirl wants to wear boots and spurs to bed, does it seem
stupid? g

Giddy up cowboy.

Like you'd notice the head wear under those circumstances....
--
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital."
-- Aaron Levenstein

On 5/22/15 5:47 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
I like to use technical and clinical terms or words that sound dirty
instead of profanity to insult unpleasant people. For instance,

"Place your lips on my hindquarters, create a vacuum and pull away
smartly."

"Sir, what has come out of your mouth is nothing more than a hot
steaming pile of male bovine droppings."

"You can just leave a dental impression on my buttocks!"

"That's bull scat!"

"Go coitus yourself!"

"That's more of your scatological narrative"

"That's a load codswallop"

"She's an inanimate coitus"

"I perceive that your cranium is devoid of a mass to control your
central nervous system."

And on and on. The funniest part is illiterate people often feel
insulted because they no Idea what you're saying. Call a moron a
"homosapien" and they'll get bent out of shape because they believe
it means "homosexual". Describe a Negro as "niggardly" and you know
how they'll react.8-)

[8~{} Uncle Dastardly Monster

Illiterate folks like me get tickled pink thinking you think we know
them fancy words.

On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 12:05:04 PM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 5/22/15 5:47 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
I like to use technical and clinical terms or words that sound dirty
instead of profanity to insult unpleasant people. For instance,

"Place your lips on my hindquarters, create a vacuum and pull away
smartly."

"Sir, what has come out of your mouth is nothing more than a hot
steaming pile of male bovine droppings."

"You can just leave a dental impression on my buttocks!"

"That's bull scat!"

"Go coitus yourself!"

"That's more of your scatological narrative"

"That's a load codswallop"

"She's an inanimate coitus"

"I perceive that your cranium is devoid of a mass to control your
central nervous system."

And on and on. The funniest part is illiterate people often feel
insulted because they no Idea what you're saying. Call a moron a
"homosapien" and they'll get bent out of shape because they believe
it means "homosexual". Describe a Negro as "niggardly" and you know
how they'll react.8-)

[8~{} Uncle Dastardly Monster

Illiterate folks like me get tickled pink thinking you think we know
them fancy words.

Oh codswallop! 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Silly Monster

On 05/21/2015 01:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

[snip]

Coupled with that is the ability to speak and not use curse words. My
parents have never heard me use the F word, but today, young people use
it in most every sentence. Women too. Yeah, it is just a word, but I
still think it uncouth in normal conversation. A well placed curse is
good punctuation, but should ber used on rare occasions whee it has real
meaning.

Yes, "curse words" are best used only occasionally.

Unexpectedly, I once met a 15-year-old boy who knew that.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"I pledge allegiance to my flag and to the republic for which it stands,
one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." [Original
Pledge of Allegiance (1892)]

Oren posted for all of us...



On Thu, 21 May 2015 15:53:25 -0400, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
Ed Pawlowski wrote:


Change is just change, not necessarily an improvement. I'm old
fashioned too and I'd never wear a hat at the table. IMO, it looks ill
mannered.

A hat should be taken off when you greet a lady and left off for the
rest of your life. Nothing looks more stupid than a hat.

P. J. O'Rourke

If a naked cowgirl wants to wear boots and spurs to bed, does it seem
stupid? g

Giddy up cowboy.

Is she doing it cowgirl? Yippee y o dot k (IIRC)

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On 5/21/2015 2:57 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2015 14:31:25 -0500, rebel wrote:

I love old fashioned manners. Things just aren't what they used to be..

"RAVERSE CITY, Mich. ? Police say a belligerent man dressed in scuba
gear caused a stir at a northern Michigan fast food restaurant."

[...]

"Regardless, Detective Sgt. James Bussell says that "as far as wearing
scuba gear and having a couple of beers, that's legal."

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Now, scuba dear might get some female attention. lol

If he's diving he should have learned how to breathe through his ears.

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On 5/21/2015 3:32 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
Ivan Vegvary posted for all of us...



What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way older than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed. Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady approaches or leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that these very same geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today. What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary

I only wear a hat if the AC is freezing my bald ass skull.


I've heard that a bald head is the new sexy!

Then I am a 12

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On 5/22/2015 4:47 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 3:14:43 PM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 5/21/15 2:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Coupled with that is the ability to speak and not use curse words. My
parents have never heard me use the F word, but today, young people use
it in most every sentence. Women too. Yeah, it is just a word, but I
still think it uncouth in normal conversation. A well placed curse is
good punctuation, but should ber used on rare occasions whee it has real
meaning.

When I was 5 or 6, a couple of times I mentioned sweating to my father.
He snapped back, "Perspire! Animals sweat! People perspire!"

I don't know what animals except horses, sweat. There had been horses
on the streets when he'd been my age. I guess calling a person sweaty
was like calling the person a horse.

Profane words show disrespect for the listener. It's a matter of
consensus, which depends on time and place. In the US, "ass" is no
longer profane. The current UK list isn't quite the same as the US list.
Synonyms for profanity are perfectly acceptable.

When my niece was growing up, her parents, who considered themselves
quite educated, used profanity on her and on each other in her presence.
That disgusted me. It amounted to saying, "I win because I disrespect
you." It certainly wasn't necessary to use profanity on her. In case of
an important difference of opinion about what she should or shouldn't
do, I could win by my endless enthusiasm for arguing, like Sergeant
Carter convincing Gomer Pyle.

Once when she was 12, I found her watching TV more than an hour after
her bedtime because her parents weren't paying attention. I reminded
her. She replied with the F word. I'd never heard her use profanity
before. I didn't make an issue of it. She'd have to decide whether to
follow her parents' example. I never again heard her use profanity.

Profanity isn't profane in the Marines because voicing disrespect isn't
offensive. A friend was a drill instructor at Parris Island during his
12 years in the Marines. He and other drill instructors called their
gunnery sergeant the Deacon because he never used profanity. They were
afraid of him because he didn't need profanity to make a guy feel like
two cents if he'd done something wrong.

I like to use technical and clinical terms or words that sound dirty instead of profanity to insult unpleasant people. For instance,

"Place your lips on my hindquarters, create a vacuum and pull away smartly."

"Sir, what has come out of your mouth is nothing more than a hot steaming pile of male bovine droppings."

"You can just leave a dental impression on my buttocks!"

"That's bull scat!"

"Go coitus yourself!"

"That's more of your scatological narrative"

"That's a load codswallop"

"She's an inanimate coitus"

"I perceive that your cranium is devoid of a mass to control your central nervous system."

And on and on. The funniest part is illiterate people often feel insulted because they no Idea what you're saying. Call a moron a "homosapien" and they'll get bent out of shape because they believe it means "homosexual".
Describe a Negro as "niggardly" and you know how they'll react. 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Dastardly Monster






I don't think I have THAT much imagination!

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On 5/22/15 5:47 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Describe a Negro as "niggardly" and you know how they'll react.8-)

Some kids don't like to trick-or-treat in niggardly neighborhoods.

On 5/22/2015 1:51 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
rebel posted for all of us...



On 5/21/2015 3:32 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
Ivan Vegvary posted for all of us...



What's with all the hats (men) that I see in restaurants? Where did these people learn their manners? It doesn't surprise me to see this on a 35 and under age gent. But gees, some of these guys are way older than me (72) and come in with wives that are nicely dressed. Baseball caps? Come on!
I realize that I'm old fashioned (still stand up when a lady approaches or leaves a table, or enters a room) but I'm convinced that these very same geezers would not have worn a hat indoors 30 years ago, but they do today. What has happened?

Ivan Vegvary

I only wear a hat if the AC is freezing my bald ass skull.


I've heard that a bald head is the new sexy!

Then I am a 12


HAHA! Now that's funny.

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On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 3:45:01 PM UTC-5, J Burns wrote:
On 5/22/15 5:47 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Describe a Negro as "niggardly" and you know how they'll react.8-)

Some kids don't like to trick-or-treat in niggardly neighborhoods.

OMG! That's racist, fire him, take all his money and stuff, run him out of town, he should lose his house, er,...what?...a dictionary?...what's the definition? OK, nevermind. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Racist Monster

On 05/22/2015 03:47 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
And on and on. The funniest part is illiterate people often feel insulted because they no Idea what you're saying. Call a moron a "homosapien" and they'll get bent out of shape because they believe it means "homosexual".
Describe a Negro as "niggardly" and you know how they'll react.

I had a DI who lovingly referred to his recruits as scrotums. Finally
after a week or two of blank looks he asked "Do any of you maggots know
what a scrotum is?"