My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

Your brother's location? In there vapor barrier put in? Blowing material
is not hard but has to be enough to have good R value for the
climate depending on location. And good venting for the attic.

On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 5:44:53 PM UTC-5, Tony Hwang wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

Your brother's location? In there vapor barrier put in? Blowing material
is not hard but has to be enough to have good R value for the
climate depending on location. And good venting for the attic.

Thanks for the reply. The home is located in Birmingham, Alabamastan. I don't recall the attic having a vapor barrier since it's an older home built before it was a code requirement or best practice. The attic has good ventilation, gable roof vents, and I know that insulation should be pushed back from under the roof's eaves. It would be nice to have hardware cloth screen around under the eaves to keep the squirrels out. I read on some website about using a leaf blower under the eaves to blow the insulation back a bit to allow for good ventilation. I only have experience with using fiberglass batts and roll insulation to insulate an attic but I believe the blown in insulation would be easier to install in the small attic. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Batt Monster

On 5/3/2015 6:19 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster


I've worked with blown cellulose, twice. The lessons
hard learned include

1) dust mask and good lighting are a good thing
also eye goggles are good.
2) keep the air opening on the machine wide open.
Trying to blow too rich a pattern clogs the hose.
It takes longer to dispense the cellulose, but
the tube doesn't clog as much, and you have less
down time and cussing time.

On the other kind of machine, keep the cellulose
fed about 1/4 open, you want lots of air and not
much cellose.

3) two inch PVC vent pipe left over from a HVAC
job extends the tube, use lots of duct tape.

4) My 2 9/16 inch holesaw makes a nice notch on
end of two by four, so the guy holding up the PVC
doesn't keep having the two by slipping off the
PVC tube.
5) start at the far end of the job, and work
back towards the attic hatch.
6) Your working space needs a way to let out the
air, you'll be blowing in a LOT of air
7) If it starts to rain, and the machine gets
wet, the store is not pleased with you.
8) At your friend's house, make sure he goes up
there and has someone clear out all the furniture
cause the last owners were pack rats.
9) It is not totally needed to use the machine.
You can carry bags up, and break up the grey stuff
by hand, if you really want to.

I'll think of more items, tomorrow.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 5/3/2015 3:44 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused
leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet.
This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to
collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the
attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose
insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2
bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a
man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with
installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box
stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the
insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

Your brother's location? In there vapor barrier put in? Blowing material
is not hard but has to be enough to have good R value for the
climate depending on location. And good venting for the attic.

I looked at putting cellulose in my attic.
Check the building codes for all the prep work you have to do around
vents and ceiling fixtures etc.
Looked like price per insulation value was in favor of cellulose.
I changed my mind when one vendor disclosed that , in damp climates,
cellulose absorbs water. That reduces the R value significantly
and makes it WEIGH a lot more. Sometimes the ceiling can't handle
the extra weight.
I went with fiberglass.

On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 8:23:03 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 5/3/2015 6:19 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster


I've worked with blown cellulose, twice. The lessons
hard learned include

1) dust mask and good lighting are a good thing
also eye goggles are good.
2) keep the air opening on the machine wide open.
Trying to blow too rich a pattern clogs the hose.
It takes longer to dispense the cellulose, but
the tube doesn't clog as much, and you have less
down time and cussing time.

On the other kind of machine, keep the cellulose
fed about 1/4 open, you want lots of air and not
much cellose.

3) two inch PVC vent pipe left over from a HVAC
job extends the tube, use lots of duct tape.

4) My 2 9/16 inch holesaw makes a nice notch on
end of two by four, so the guy holding up the PVC
doesn't keep having the two by slipping off the
PVC tube.
5) start at the far end of the job, and work
back towards the attic hatch.
6) Your working space needs a way to let out the
air, you'll be blowing in a LOT of air
7) If it starts to rain, and the machine gets
wet, the store is not pleased with you.
8) At your friend's house, make sure he goes up
there and has someone clear out all the furniture
cause the last owners were pack rats.
9) It is not totally needed to use the machine.
You can carry bags up, and break up the grey stuff
by hand, if you really want to.

I'll think of more items, tomorrow.

--
It's my brother's home and it's a small 2 bedroom house. I can't get on a ladder and I doubt Dufas can get up in the attic but we have helpers whom
we could direct to do the work. I can use a video camera to watch and walkie talkie to communicate with a helper. I was just thinking that the house may be small enough that a blower may not be needed and a helper could get up in the attic with the bags and a rake to push the insulation around. Perhaps something like a small concrete float could be used to push the insulation around? 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

On 5/3/2015 7:43 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 8:23:03 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 5/3/2015 6:19 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster


I've worked with blown cellulose, twice. The lessons
hard learned include

1) dust mask and good lighting are a good thing
also eye goggles are good.
2) keep the air opening on the machine wide open.
Trying to blow too rich a pattern clogs the hose.
It takes longer to dispense the cellulose, but
the tube doesn't clog as much, and you have less
down time and cussing time.

On the other kind of machine, keep the cellulose
fed about 1/4 open, you want lots of air and not
much cellose.

3) two inch PVC vent pipe left over from a HVAC
job extends the tube, use lots of duct tape.

4) My 2 9/16 inch holesaw makes a nice notch on
end of two by four, so the guy holding up the PVC
doesn't keep having the two by slipping off the
PVC tube.
5) start at the far end of the job, and work
back towards the attic hatch.
6) Your working space needs a way to let out the
air, you'll be blowing in a LOT of air
7) If it starts to rain, and the machine gets
wet, the store is not pleased with you.
8) At your friend's house, make sure he goes up
there and has someone clear out all the furniture
cause the last owners were pack rats.
9) It is not totally needed to use the machine.
You can carry bags up, and break up the grey stuff
by hand, if you really want to.

I'll think of more items, tomorrow.

--
It's my brother's home and it's a small 2 bedroom house. I can't get on a ladder and I doubt Dufas can get up in the attic but we have helpers whom
we could direct to do the work. I can use a video camera to watch and walkie talkie to communicate with a helper. I was just thinking that the house may be small enough that a blower may not be needed and a helper could get up in the attic with the bags and a rake to push the insulation around. Perhaps something like a small concrete float could be used to push the insulation around? 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

I wouldn't even try. You need Volume. You have to fluff it.

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 12:32:31 AM UTC-5, mike wrote:
On 5/3/2015 7:43 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 8:23:03 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 5/3/2015 6:19 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input.. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster


I've worked with blown cellulose, twice. The lessons
hard learned include

1) dust mask and good lighting are a good thing
also eye goggles are good.
2) keep the air opening on the machine wide open.
Trying to blow too rich a pattern clogs the hose.
It takes longer to dispense the cellulose, but
the tube doesn't clog as much, and you have less
down time and cussing time.

On the other kind of machine, keep the cellulose
fed about 1/4 open, you want lots of air and not
much cellose.

3) two inch PVC vent pipe left over from a HVAC
job extends the tube, use lots of duct tape.

4) My 2 9/16 inch holesaw makes a nice notch on
end of two by four, so the guy holding up the PVC
doesn't keep having the two by slipping off the
PVC tube.
5) start at the far end of the job, and work
back towards the attic hatch.
6) Your working space needs a way to let out the
air, you'll be blowing in a LOT of air
7) If it starts to rain, and the machine gets
wet, the store is not pleased with you.
8) At your friend's house, make sure he goes up
there and has someone clear out all the furniture
cause the last owners were pack rats.
9) It is not totally needed to use the machine.
You can carry bags up, and break up the grey stuff
by hand, if you really want to.

I'll think of more items, tomorrow.

--
It's my brother's home and it's a small 2 bedroom house. I can't get on a ladder and I doubt Dufas can get up in the attic but we have helpers whom
we could direct to do the work. I can use a video camera to watch and walkie talkie to communicate with a helper. I was just thinking that the house may be small enough that a blower may not be needed and a helper could get up in the attic with the bags and a rake to push the insulation around. Perhaps something like a small concrete float could be used to push the insulation around? 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

I wouldn't even try. You need Volume. You have to fluff it.

That's why I'm asking for advice. I don't know how far one of the blowers will shoot it but if can shoot it 15 feet, it could reach the farthest point from the attic hatch. Dang, I haven't even looked for YouTube videos of the process yet. Silly me. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Silly Monster

On 5/3/2015 10:49 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 12:32:31 AM UTC-5, mike wrote:
On 5/3/2015 7:43 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 8:23:03 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 5/3/2015 6:19 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster


I've worked with blown cellulose, twice. The lessons
hard learned include

1) dust mask and good lighting are a good thing
also eye goggles are good.
2) keep the air opening on the machine wide open.
Trying to blow too rich a pattern clogs the hose.
It takes longer to dispense the cellulose, but
the tube doesn't clog as much, and you have less
down time and cussing time.

On the other kind of machine, keep the cellulose
fed about 1/4 open, you want lots of air and not
much cellose.

3) two inch PVC vent pipe left over from a HVAC
job extends the tube, use lots of duct tape.

4) My 2 9/16 inch holesaw makes a nice notch on
end of two by four, so the guy holding up the PVC
doesn't keep having the two by slipping off the
PVC tube.
5) start at the far end of the job, and work
back towards the attic hatch.
6) Your working space needs a way to let out the
air, you'll be blowing in a LOT of air
7) If it starts to rain, and the machine gets
wet, the store is not pleased with you.
8) At your friend's house, make sure he goes up
there and has someone clear out all the furniture
cause the last owners were pack rats.
9) It is not totally needed to use the machine.
You can carry bags up, and break up the grey stuff
by hand, if you really want to.

I'll think of more items, tomorrow.

--
It's my brother's home and it's a small 2 bedroom house. I can't get on a ladder and I doubt Dufas can get up in the attic but we have helpers whom
we could direct to do the work. I can use a video camera to watch and walkie talkie to communicate with a helper. I was just thinking that the house may be small enough that a blower may not be needed and a helper could get up in the attic with the bags and a rake to push the insulation around. Perhaps something like a small concrete float could be used to push the insulation around? 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

I wouldn't even try. You need Volume. You have to fluff it.

That's why I'm asking for advice. I don't know how far one of the blowers will shoot it but if can shoot it 15 feet, it could reach the farthest point from the attic hatch. Dang, I haven't even looked for YouTube videos of the process yet. Silly me. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Silly Monster

I didn't watch for long because I didn't have proper breathing protection.
As I recall, the guy didn't try to shoot it more than 10 feet or so.
You need a straight shot to every nook and cranny, or you'll leave
gaps.
This with a huge blower on a truck with 100 feet of hose.
He applied it thicker than the nominal dimensions because it settles some
over time.
I'm sure it's all quite simple the THIRD time you do it.
How much is it gonna cost if you do it wrong...or fall thru
the ceiling? Or if you mess up your lungs.
Compare that to the cost of having it done by someone who knows
what he's doing.
I like to do everything myself. But, I draw the line at home
improvements where rookie mistakes can cost huge bucks in the future.
I did my own flooring, but my own roof would be too risky.

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 1:11:22 AM UTC-5, mike wrote:
On 5/3/2015 10:49 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 12:32:31 AM UTC-5, mike wrote:
On 5/3/2015 7:43 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 8:23:03 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 5/3/2015 6:19 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster


I've worked with blown cellulose, twice. The lessons
hard learned include

1) dust mask and good lighting are a good thing
also eye goggles are good.
2) keep the air opening on the machine wide open.
Trying to blow too rich a pattern clogs the hose.
It takes longer to dispense the cellulose, but
the tube doesn't clog as much, and you have less
down time and cussing time.

On the other kind of machine, keep the cellulose
fed about 1/4 open, you want lots of air and not
much cellose.

3) two inch PVC vent pipe left over from a HVAC
job extends the tube, use lots of duct tape.

4) My 2 9/16 inch holesaw makes a nice notch on
end of two by four, so the guy holding up the PVC
doesn't keep having the two by slipping off the
PVC tube.
5) start at the far end of the job, and work
back towards the attic hatch.
6) Your working space needs a way to let out the
air, you'll be blowing in a LOT of air
7) If it starts to rain, and the machine gets
wet, the store is not pleased with you.
8) At your friend's house, make sure he goes up
there and has someone clear out all the furniture
cause the last owners were pack rats.
9) It is not totally needed to use the machine.
You can carry bags up, and break up the grey stuff
by hand, if you really want to.

I'll think of more items, tomorrow.

--
It's my brother's home and it's a small 2 bedroom house. I can't get on a ladder and I doubt Dufas can get up in the attic but we have helpers whom
we could direct to do the work. I can use a video camera to watch and walkie talkie to communicate with a helper. I was just thinking that the house may be small enough that a blower may not be needed and a helper could get up in the attic with the bags and a rake to push the insulation around.. Perhaps something like a small concrete float could be used to push the insulation around? 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

I wouldn't even try. You need Volume. You have to fluff it.

That's why I'm asking for advice. I don't know how far one of the blowers will shoot it but if can shoot it 15 feet, it could reach the farthest point from the attic hatch. Dang, I haven't even looked for YouTube videos of the process yet. Silly me. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Silly Monster

I didn't watch for long because I didn't have proper breathing protection..
As I recall, the guy didn't try to shoot it more than 10 feet or so.
You need a straight shot to every nook and cranny, or you'll leave
gaps.
This with a huge blower on a truck with 100 feet of hose.
He applied it thicker than the nominal dimensions because it settles some
over time.
I'm sure it's all quite simple the THIRD time you do it.
How much is it gonna cost if you do it wrong...or fall thru
the ceiling? Or if you mess up your lungs.
Compare that to the cost of having it done by someone who knows
what he's doing.
I like to do everything myself. But, I draw the line at home
improvements where rookie mistakes can cost huge bucks in the future.
I did my own flooring, but my own roof would be too risky.

I've become so disabled in the past few years there's not much I can do anymore so I hire trained monkeys (typical 20 somethings) and instruct them how to do things. 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Monkey Monster

mike wrote:
On 5/3/2015 10:49 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 12:32:31 AM UTC-5, mike wrote:
On 5/3/2015 7:43 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 8:23:03 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 5/3/2015 6:19 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused
leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet.
This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to
collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but
the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose
insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish
2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get
a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with
installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big
box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags
of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster


I've worked with blown cellulose, twice. The lessons
hard learned include

1) dust mask and good lighting are a good thing
also eye goggles are good.
2) keep the air opening on the machine wide open.
Trying to blow too rich a pattern clogs the hose.
It takes longer to dispense the cellulose, but
the tube doesn't clog as much, and you have less
down time and cussing time.

On the other kind of machine, keep the cellulose
fed about 1/4 open, you want lots of air and not
much cellose.

3) two inch PVC vent pipe left over from a HVAC
job extends the tube, use lots of duct tape.

4) My 2 9/16 inch holesaw makes a nice notch on
end of two by four, so the guy holding up the PVC
doesn't keep having the two by slipping off the
PVC tube.
5) start at the far end of the job, and work
back towards the attic hatch.
6) Your working space needs a way to let out the
air, you'll be blowing in a LOT of air
7) If it starts to rain, and the machine gets
wet, the store is not pleased with you.
8) At your friend's house, make sure he goes up
there and has someone clear out all the furniture
cause the last owners were pack rats.
9) It is not totally needed to use the machine.
You can carry bags up, and break up the grey stuff
by hand, if you really want to.

I'll think of more items, tomorrow.

--
It's my brother's home and it's a small 2 bedroom house. I can't get
on a ladder and I doubt Dufas can get up in the attic but we have helpers whom
we could direct to do the work. I can use a video camera to watch and
walkie talkie to communicate with a helper. I was just thinking that
the house may be small enough that a blower may not be needed and a
helper could get up in the attic with the bags and a rake to push the
insulation around. Perhaps something like a small concrete float could
be used to push the insulation around? 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

I wouldn't even try. You need Volume. You have to fluff it.

That's why I'm asking for advice. I don't know how far one of the
blowers will shoot it but if can shoot it 15 feet, it could reach the
farthest point from the attic hatch. Dang, I haven't even looked for
YouTube videos of the process yet. Silly me. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Silly Monster

I didn't watch for long because I didn't have proper breathing protection.
As I recall, the guy didn't try to shoot it more than 10 feet or so.
You need a straight shot to every nook and cranny, or you'll leave
gaps.
This with a huge blower on a truck with 100 feet of hose.
He applied it thicker than the nominal dimensions because it settles some
over time.
I'm sure it's all quite simple the THIRD time you do it.
How much is it gonna cost if you do it wrong...or fall thru
the ceiling? Or if you mess up your lungs.
Compare that to the cost of having it done by someone who knows
what he's doing.
I like to do everything myself. But, I draw the line at home
improvements where rookie mistakes can cost huge bucks in the future.
I did my own flooring, but my own roof would be too risky.

Nice to have a separate breathing air line. Need flashlight, frs radio.

Greg

On 5/3/2015 9:23 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

9) It is not totally needed to use the machine.
You can carry bags up, and break up the grey stuff
by hand, if you really want to.

I'll think of more items, tomorrow.


I believe it's the machine which provides the fluff and is required.
That extra fluff is what provides the R-value.

On 5/3/2015 7:56 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
Your brother's location? In there vapor barrier put in? Blowing material
is not hard but has to be enough to have good R value for the
climate depending on location. And good venting for the attic.

Thanks for the reply. The home is located in Birmingham,
Alabamastan. I don't recall the attic having a vapor barrier
since it's an older home built before it was a code
requirement or best practice. The attic has good
ventilation, gable roof vents, and I know that insulation
should be pushed back from under the roof's eaves. It would
be nice to have hardware cloth screen around under the
eaves to keep the squirrels out. I read on some website
about using a leaf blower under the eaves to blow the
insulation back a bit to allow for good ventilation.


I only have experience with using fiberglass batts and
roll insulation to insulate an attic but I believe the
blown in insulation would be easier to install in the
small attic. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Batt Monster


In PRNY, we do mostly heating, and the vapor
barrier is on the inner side of the wall (keep
humidity in during winter). In the south, it's
very possible a VB would be on exterior, to keep
the humidity out of your air conditioned space.

Sounds like TDD needs the fifty some thing kid
to get up and do the work. He mentioned such a
need for pulling wires and other electrical while
he was on calls.

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 5/3/2015 10:43 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
It's my brother's home and it's a small 2 bedroom house. I can't get on a ladder and I doubt Dufas can get up in the attic but we have helpers whom
we could direct to do the work. I can use a video camera to watch and walkie talkie to communicate with a helper. I was just thinking that the house may be small enough that a blower may not be needed and a helper could get up in the attic with the bags and a rake to push the insulation around. Perhaps something like a small concrete float could be used to push the insulation around? 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster


Yes, that could work. I am guessing it will take a
lot of time to break up the grey hard packed
insullation and fluff it up. It's the air fluff
that really blocks the heat.

In a humid summer climate, you may benefit by
stapling vapor barrier to the under side of the
roof, to help keep the Alaabammy humidity out.
Just thinking, get real advice from people in
your own area.

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On 5/4/2015 1:49 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:

That's why I'm asking for advice. I don't know
how far one of the blowers will shoot it but if
can shoot it 15 feet, it could reach the farthest
point from the attic hatch. Dang, I haven't even
looked for YouTube videos of the process yet.
Silly me. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Silly Monster


I remember more like two feet off the end of the
nozzle. With my trailer roof, we used the 2 inch
PVC to get farther into the roof. That was very
helpful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg23lCECFnA
You do really need at least two workers. One to
tend the machine, other to guide the nozzle.
Little walkie talkies are a help, but the machine
is noisy.

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learn more about Jesus
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I remember more like two feet off the end of the
nozzle. With my trailer roof, we used the 2 inch
PVC to get farther into the roof. That was very
helpful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg23lCECFnA
You do really need at least two workers. One to
tend the machine, other to guide the nozzle.
Little walkie talkies are a help, but the machine
is noisy.


why use a walkie talkie, just 2 cell phones with unlimited talk and text.

On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:56:28 PM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 5:44:53 PM UTC-5, Tony Hwang wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input.. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

Your brother's location? In there vapor barrier put in? Blowing material
is not hard but has to be enough to have good R value for the
climate depending on location. And good venting for the attic.

Thanks for the reply. The home is located in Birmingham, Alabamastan. I don't recall the attic having a vapor barrier since it's an older home built before it was a code requirement or best practice. The attic has good ventilation, gable roof vents, and I know that insulation should be pushed back from under the roof's eaves.

You can buy plastic baffles that get stapled to the underside of the roof,
between the rafters, at the eaves, to keep the blown in insulation clear
of the soffit vents. HD and similar have them in the roofing supplies.
They are about 3.5 ft long, but are scored and you can break them in half,
using just one half.

On 5/4/2015 7:43 AM, bob haller wrote:


Little walkie talkies are a help, but the machine
is noisy.


why use a walkie talkie, just 2 cell phones with unlimited talk and text.


1) I already own several
2) that requires upgrade and more money

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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
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On Mon, 4 May 2015 05:06:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

Thanks for the reply. The home is located in Birmingham, Alabamastan. I don't recall the attic having a vapor barrier since it's an older home built before it was a code requirement or best practice. The attic has good ventilation, gable roof vents, and I know that insulation should be pushed back from under the roof's eaves.

You can buy plastic baffles that get stapled to the underside of the roof,
between the rafters, at the eaves, to keep the blown in insulation clear
of the soffit vents. HD and similar have them in the roofing supplies.
They are about 3.5 ft long, but are scored and you can break them in half,
using just one half.

+1

Cardboard stapled on works just a well, too. A piece across the rafter
at each vent. BTDT

Sample:

http://www.appliedenergyproducts.com/images/detailed/1/baffle_213125606234e3c15ef68582.png

On Sun, 3 May 2015 15:19:33 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

Check with HD store rental. Is there a minimum purchase of bags for it
to be a loaner machine? Take the machine back dirty and the tag you.

This is a two man job.

Some years ago, I was in an attic, circa 60's in the desert. For a
known history professor.. Hot as hell, and WATCH out for roofing nails
that pierce the roof decking. Stand up to tall, in a sudden, and you
get "nailed". (ax me)

Get a construction helmet on your noggin. Better - use attic monkeys.
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"Your brain is so scary sometimes... it really is."-Jedediah Bila...

On Sun, 03 May 2015 22:12:18 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 03 May 2015 18:57:40 -0700, mike wrote:

I looked at putting cellulose in my attic.
Check the building codes for all the prep work you have to do around
vents and ceiling fixtures etc.
Looked like price per insulation value was in favor of cellulose.
I changed my mind when one vendor disclosed that , in damp climates,
cellulose absorbs water. That reduces the R value significantly
and makes it WEIGH a lot more. Sometimes the ceiling can't handle
the extra weight.
I went with fiberglass.

Finally someone said it. I was waiting. The cellulose in my attic
turned into gray dust with an R value of the stuff in the bottom of a
bird cage. . I have the opposite problem. How do I get rid of a couple
inches of gray dirt.


Might have been youtube video, but a shop type vac was used to remove
the old stuff. YMMV

If you have a vapor barrier in a house where AC is your biggest
utility bill, you want the vapor barrier on top of the insulation.
(the warm moist side)
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On Sun, 3 May 2015 19:43:16 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

I was just thinking that the house may be small enough that a blower may not be needed and a helper could get up in the attic with the bags and a rake to push the insulation around.

Bad idea. The bags are highly compressed, material is broken up at the
blower machine - and then blown into the attic to fluff if up. The
attic monkey communicates when to add more material.

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"Your brain is so scary sometimes... it really is."-Jedediah Bila...

On Mon, 04 May 2015 09:17:21 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 5/4/2015 7:43 AM, bob haller wrote:


Little walkie talkies are a help, but the machine
is noisy.


why use a walkie talkie, just 2 cell phones with unlimited talk and text.


1) I already own several
2) that requires upgrade and more money


Can you call 911 with a walkie talkie?

P.S. A guy blowing insulation will not be texting. The guy is busy.

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 7:07:00 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:56:28 PM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 5:44:53 PM UTC-5, Tony Hwang wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

Your brother's location? In there vapor barrier put in? Blowing material
is not hard but has to be enough to have good R value for the
climate depending on location. And good venting for the attic.

Thanks for the reply. The home is located in Birmingham, Alabamastan. I don't recall the attic having a vapor barrier since it's an older home built before it was a code requirement or best practice. The attic has good ventilation, gable roof vents, and I know that insulation should be pushed back from under the roof's eaves.

You can buy plastic baffles that get stapled to the underside of the roof,
between the rafters, at the eaves, to keep the blown in insulation clear
of the soffit vents. HD and similar have them in the roofing supplies.
They are about 3.5 ft long, but are scored and you can break them in half,
using just one half.

Thanks, do have a link? I can look it up on the HD site. I'm asking here so I can learn from the mistakes of others and not make the same goofs. I'm going to have to learn enough through my research including tapping into the broad knowledge base here so I can direct inexperienced help to do the work for us. I can't walk yet and I'm sure my brother can't get up in the attic but if we know WTF is supposed to be done we can supervise. I have an idea that I can let my help use one of my wireless cameras to show me what's going on. I believe that me and my brother could develop a system that would allow older, very experienced but disabled folks to supervise the work of younger physically fit helpers who can climb around like monkeys. We can call it "Gopher Cam", which would allow remote control of human drones on various jobs. Darn, now my wheels are spinning and I thought of something else.. A portable wireless video setup that I could dub "The Silent Supervisor" that a homeowner can put in place to keep an eye on a contractor doing work on a home. It would be good for the less than able bodied aging population.. I can see a tough idiot proof rental unit that can be made available to anyone to use and I know it will wind up being misused. Oh well, it's hard to suppress the pervert hidden in the recesses of my brain. Darn, now I'm thinking of all sorts of things that could be developed and offered for rent by big box and rental stores. Anyone else have any ideas? Dang! here comes another one out of my warped mind. The Gopher Cam could be equipped electrodes that would allow you to administer electric shocks like the remote training collars for dogs. snicker 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Cruel Monster

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 9:44:49 AM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2015 05:06:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

Thanks for the reply. The home is located in Birmingham, Alabamastan. I don't recall the attic having a vapor barrier since it's an older home built before it was a code requirement or best practice. The attic has good ventilation, gable roof vents, and I know that insulation should be pushed back from under the roof's eaves.

You can buy plastic baffles that get stapled to the underside of the roof,
between the rafters, at the eaves, to keep the blown in insulation clear
of the soffit vents. HD and similar have them in the roofing supplies.
They are about 3.5 ft long, but are scored and you can break them in half,
using just one half.

+1

Cardboard stapled on works just a well, too. A piece across the rafter
at each vent. BTDT

Sample:

http://www.appliedenergyproducts.com/images/detailed/1/baffle_213125606234e3c15ef68582.png

Very cool but all the squirrels around there would make short work of the cardboard unless it's treated with something like capsicum. I don't know if the plastic baffles would fare much better since the flying rats love to chew on plastic. I do believe that hardware cloth screen would be necessary to protect the baffles. 8-)

Hum, we could put the cardboard baffles in a thick plastic bag then soak them with pepper spray and allow them to dry before installation. I suppose goggles and a respirator would be needed by the installer? o_O

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

Oren writes:
On Mon, 04 May 2015 09:17:21 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 5/4/2015 7:43 AM, bob haller wrote:


Little walkie talkies are a help, but the machine
is noisy.


why use a walkie talkie, just 2 cell phones with unlimited talk and text.


1) I already own several
2) that requires upgrade and more money


Can you call 911 with a walkie talkie?

Sometimes. There were the PTT motorola phones which worked
as both handheld transceivers and cell phones.

On Mon, 4 May 2015 12:28:01 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

Very cool but all the squirrels around there would make short work of the cardboard unless it's treated with something like capsicum. I don't know if the plastic baffles would fare much better since the flying rats love to chew on plastic.

Squirrels hone teeth on metal, jump around on pole transformers.

They git dead g

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 2:57:09 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2015 12:28:01 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

Very cool but all the squirrels around there would make short work of the cardboard unless it's treated with something like capsicum. I don't know if the plastic baffles would fare much better since the flying rats love to chew on plastic.

Squirrels hone teeth on metal, jump around on pole transformers.

They git dead g

I know, staple strands of wire across under the eaves then hook them to an electric fence charger. 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Zap Monster

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 3:28:07 PM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 9:44:49 AM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2015 05:06:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

Thanks for the reply. The home is located in Birmingham, Alabamastan.. I don't recall the attic having a vapor barrier since it's an older home built before it was a code requirement or best practice. The attic has good ventilation, gable roof vents, and I know that insulation should be pushed back from under the roof's eaves.

You can buy plastic baffles that get stapled to the underside of the roof,
between the rafters, at the eaves, to keep the blown in insulation clear
of the soffit vents. HD and similar have them in the roofing supplies..
They are about 3.5 ft long, but are scored and you can break them in half,
using just one half.

+1

Cardboard stapled on works just a well, too. A piece across the rafter
at each vent. BTDT

Sample:

http://www.appliedenergyproducts.com/images/detailed/1/baffle_213125606234e3c15ef68582.png

Very cool but all the squirrels around there would make short work of the cardboard unless it's treated with something like capsicum. I don't know if the plastic baffles would fare much better since the flying rats love to chew on plastic. I do believe that hardware cloth screen would be necessary to protect the baffles. 8-)


The ventilation baffles are in the attic, on the bottom of the roof
deck, between the rafters, where squirrels should not have access.
And if they do, you have serious problems other than the baffles.

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 3:05:42 PM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 7:07:00 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:56:28 PM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 5:44:53 PM UTC-5, Tony Hwang wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

Your brother's location? In there vapor barrier put in? Blowing material
is not hard but has to be enough to have good R value for the
climate depending on location. And good venting for the attic.

Thanks for the reply. The home is located in Birmingham, Alabamastan. I don't recall the attic having a vapor barrier since it's an older home built before it was a code requirement or best practice. The attic has good ventilation, gable roof vents, and I know that insulation should be pushed back from under the roof's eaves.

You can buy plastic baffles that get stapled to the underside of the roof,
between the rafters, at the eaves, to keep the blown in insulation clear
of the soffit vents. HD and similar have them in the roofing supplies.
They are about 3.5 ft long, but are scored and you can break them in half,
using just one half.

Thanks, do have a link? I can look it up on the HD site. I'm asking here so I can learn from the mistakes of others and not make the same goofs.


http://img2-2.timeinc.net/toh/i/a/heating/attics-08.jpg

IDK what the spacing is on those rafters, seems wide. On my
rafters the baffles filled up more of the space. The bafffles might come
in different widths too, IDK. But the main concept is that it keeps
an airspace open so the soffits aren't blocked. In a vaulted ceiling
with no attic you run them from soffits to peak.

Uncle Monster posted for all of us...


I've become so disabled in the past few years there's not much I can do anymore so I hire trained monkeys (typical 20 somethings) and instruct them how to do things. 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Monkey Monster


I can't even get the trained monkeys around here to mow the grass let them
do this job.

You might be able to get gov't assistance to this through a weatherization
program. What the heck you worked all your life and paid taxes.

Today is a "Red Flag" day; field fires and LARGE brush fires are going.

--
Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

On Mon, 4 May 2015 12:28:01 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 9:44:49 AM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2015 05:06:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

Thanks for the reply. The home is located in Birmingham, Alabamastan. I don't recall the attic having a vapor barrier since it's an older home built before it was a code requirement or best practice. The attic has good ventilation, gable roof vents, and I know that insulation should be pushed back from under the roof's eaves.

You can buy plastic baffles that get stapled to the underside of the roof,
between the rafters, at the eaves, to keep the blown in insulation clear
of the soffit vents. HD and similar have them in the roofing supplies.
They are about 3.5 ft long, but are scored and you can break them in half,
using just one half.

+1

Cardboard stapled on works just a well, too. A piece across the rafter
at each vent. BTDT

Sample:

http://www.appliedenergyproducts.com/images/detailed/1/baffle_213125606234e3c15ef68582.png

Very cool but all the squirrels around there would make short work of the cardboard unless it's treated with something like capsicum. I don't know if the plastic baffles would fare much better since the flying rats love to chew on plastic. I do believe that hardware cloth screen would be necessary to protect the baffles. 8-)

Hum, we could put the cardboard baffles in a thick plastic bag then soak them with pepper spray and allow them to dry before installation. I suppose goggles and a respirator would be needed by the installer? o_O

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster
Around hear we use vented aluminum soffits to keep the tree rats out
of the attic and provide ventilation as well as a finished look. The
tree rats are kept out, but the bandits (coons) will tear even that
off if they want in bad enough

On 5/4/2015 2:27 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 04 May 2015 09:17:21 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Little walkie talkies are a help, but the machine
is noisy.

why use a walkie talkie, just 2 cell phones with unlimited talk and text.


1) I already own several
2) that requires upgrade and more money


Can you call 911 with a walkie talkie?

P.S. A guy blowing insulation will not be texting. The guy is busy.


No, I use my limited minutes cell phone with limited
text messages if I need a 911 call.

The attic guy best not be distracted.

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learn more about Jesus
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On 5/4/2015 3:28 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
http://www.appliedenergyproducts.com/images/detailed/1/baffle_213125606234e3c15ef68582.png

Very cool but all the squirrels around there would make short work of the cardboard unless it's treated with something like capsicum. I don't know if the plastic baffles would fare much better since the flying rats love to chew on plastic. I do believe that hardware cloth screen would be necessary to protect the baffles. 8-)

o_O

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster


How about aluminum roll valley flashing?

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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
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On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 3:44:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2015 12:28:01 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 9:44:49 AM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 4 May 2015 05:06:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

Thanks for the reply. The home is located in Birmingham, Alabamastan. I don't recall the attic having a vapor barrier since it's an older home built before it was a code requirement or best practice. The attic has good ventilation, gable roof vents, and I know that insulation should be pushed back from under the roof's eaves.

You can buy plastic baffles that get stapled to the underside of the roof,
between the rafters, at the eaves, to keep the blown in insulation clear
of the soffit vents. HD and similar have them in the roofing supplies.
They are about 3.5 ft long, but are scored and you can break them in half,
using just one half.

+1

Cardboard stapled on works just a well, too. A piece across the rafter
at each vent. BTDT

Sample:

http://www.appliedenergyproducts.com/images/detailed/1/baffle_213125606234e3c15ef68582.png

Very cool but all the squirrels around there would make short work of the cardboard unless it's treated with something like capsicum. I don't know if the plastic baffles would fare much better since the flying rats love to chew on plastic. I do believe that hardware cloth screen would be necessary to protect the baffles. 8-)

Hum, we could put the cardboard baffles in a thick plastic bag then soak them with pepper spray and allow them to dry before installation. I suppose goggles and a respirator would be needed by the installer? o_O

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster
Around hear we use vented aluminum soffits to keep the tree rats out
of the attic and provide ventilation as well as a finished look. The
tree rats are kept out, but the bandits (coons) will tear even that
off if they want in bad enough

On my brother's house, it's open under eaves where the ground level back deck's roof attaches to the house roof. The damn squirrels climb all over the lattice around back porch/deck then get under the eaves and into the attic.. I don't think it's open on the front of the house anywhere so it will need the baffles on the back side of the house where the roofline runs the length of the house. I actually think hardware cloth with 1/4" openings will be the best squirrel barrier. 8-]

http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-1-4-i...31HD/204331884

https://tinyurl.com/q35g6rr

[8~{} Uncle Squirrel Monster

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote:
Uncle Monster posted for all of us...


I've become so disabled in the past few years there's not much I can do anymore so I hire trained monkeys (typical 20 somethings) and instruct them how to do things. 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Monkey Monster


I can't even get the trained monkeys around here to mow the grass let them
do this job.

You might be able to get gov't assistance to this through a weatherization
program. What the heck you worked all your life and paid taxes.

Today is a "Red Flag" day; field fires and LARGE brush fires are going.

--
Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

Well my brother did ask the home healthcare representative about help getting repairs to the house because both he and his roommate are disabled and can't really climb around anymore. I suppose I can research the assistance available in the area since my butt is parked in this hospital bed right now.. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Bedridden Monster

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 3:20:33 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 3:05:42 PM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 7:07:00 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 7:56:28 PM UTC-4, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, May 3, 2015 at 5:44:53 PM UTC-5, Tony Hwang wrote:
Uncle Monster wrote:
My brother is in a house where roof damage from falling trees caused leaks that got the blown in cellulose insulation in the attic wet. This in turn damaged the sheetrock ceiling causing a lot of it to collapse making quite a mess. The sheet rock has been replaced but the attic needs to be reinsulated.
Does anyone out there have experience with blown in cellulose insulation and any tips I can pass on to my brother. It's a smallish 2 bedroom house and the attic hatch seems to be large enough to get a man and blower hose up there but neither of us has experience with installing blow in insulation. It's my understanding that the big box stores will loan or rent the equipment with a purchase of bags of the insulation. I'd appreciate any input. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Attic Monster

Your brother's location? In there vapor barrier put in? Blowing material
is not hard but has to be enough to have good R value for the
climate depending on location. And good venting for the attic.

Thanks for the reply. The home is located in Birmingham, Alabamastan. I don't recall the attic having a vapor barrier since it's an older home built before it was a code requirement or best practice. The attic has good ventilation, gable roof vents, and I know that insulation should be pushed back from under the roof's eaves.

You can buy plastic baffles that get stapled to the underside of the roof,
between the rafters, at the eaves, to keep the blown in insulation clear
of the soffit vents. HD and similar have them in the roofing supplies.
They are about 3.5 ft long, but are scored and you can break them in half,
using just one half.

Thanks, do have a link? I can look it up on the HD site. I'm asking here so I can learn from the mistakes of others and not make the same goofs.


http://img2-2.timeinc.net/toh/i/a/heating/attics-08.jpg

IDK what the spacing is on those rafters, seems wide. On my
rafters the baffles filled up more of the space. The bafffles might come
in different widths too, IDK. But the main concept is that it keeps
an airspace open so the soffits aren't blocked. In a vaulted ceiling
with no attic you run them from soffits to peak.

OK, I now see how the baffles are installed. Thanks! 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Grateful Monster

Uncle Monster posted for all of us...



On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote:
Uncle Monster posted for all of us...


I've become so disabled in the past few years there's not much I can do anymore so I hire trained monkeys (typical 20 somethings) and instruct them how to do things. 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Monkey Monster


I can't even get the trained monkeys around here to mow the grass let them
do this job.

You might be able to get gov't assistance to this through a weatherization
program. What the heck you worked all your life and paid taxes.

Today is a "Red Flag" day; field fires and LARGE brush fires are going.

--
Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

Well my brother did ask the home healthcare representative about help getting repairs to the house because both he and his roommate are disabled and can't really climb around anymore. I suppose I can research the assistance available in the area since my butt is parked in this hospital bed right now. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Bedridden Monster

Keeping it warm for him? Make an endowment? Rent it from him?

Did you get my email?

--
Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 7:45:10 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote:
Uncle Monster posted for all of us...



On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 3:37:51 PM UTC-5, Tekkie® wrote:
Uncle Monster posted for all of us...


I've become so disabled in the past few years there's not much I can do anymore so I hire trained monkeys (typical 20 somethings) and instruct them how to do things. 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Monkey Monster


I can't even get the trained monkeys around here to mow the grass let them
do this job.

You might be able to get gov't assistance to this through a weatherization
program. What the heck you worked all your life and paid taxes.

Today is a "Red Flag" day; field fires and LARGE brush fires are going.

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Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

Well my brother did ask the home healthcare representative about help getting repairs to the house because both he and his roommate are disabled and can't really climb around anymore. I suppose I can research the assistance available in the area since my butt is parked in this hospital bed right now. 8-]

[8~{} Uncle Bedridden Monster

Keeping it warm for him? Make an endowment? Rent it from him?

Did you get my email?

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Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

I don't quite understand that first part but I did receive and answer your Email. I went to the physical terrorism department Monday and got on an exercise machine. Now I'm in a lot of pain but I must endure it if I want to get out of this dang hospital bed. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Antsy Monster

On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 7:18:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 04 May 2015 19:53:06 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

Sometimes. There were the PTT motorola phones which worked
as both handheld transceivers and cell phones.

Ah the old Nextel. The same guys who still use them also do everything
on a FAX machine

I have a big old Nextel phone laying around somewhere and I loved it until Nextel cut me off after they screwed up my bill so bad that I laid the useless phone aside. Nextel lost a lot of customers because of incompetent customer service and billing. Not only do I still use a fax machine but a lot of businesses and institutions still do such as my pharmacy. I've carried a pager since the mid 1970's and I like it because people can punch in a number or leave me a voicemail. I don't turn on my cellphone until I wish to make a call. What I think is a good thing about a pager is that it's receive only and I can't be tracked by the people in black helicopters. 8-)

[8~{} Uncle Hidden Monster