I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically installed inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me what that box was. I don't want to wait until the installer comes out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ

Sasquatch Jones wrote:
I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house
that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically
installed inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else
is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and
stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would like to
know what is typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC
cust service says another "box" but could not tell me what that box
was. I don't want to wait until the installer comes out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The internet
cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be
straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can
connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to
run a separate new cable to the phone?


My experience, with Comcast, is that they will run the cable to the house where
they connect it to a splitter, then staple cables from that to the siding of
your house, around the house to whereever you want it, then drill a hole through
to wall from the outside to the inside of the rooms you want it in. It's ugly,
and damages the weatherproofing of the house. I'm very careful to make sure that
every wire I want is installed by me in more appropriate places, and routed by
me to where they will connect the line from the street to it. Only one wire from
comcast comes theough my outside wall. The inside wire are approprately hidden
within walls, ceilings, or floors as needed. It is highly unlikely that your
cable company will do that.

"Sasquatch Jones" wrote in message
news
I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house that
has never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically installed
inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else is
needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and stop
there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would like to know what
is typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC cust service
says another "box" but could not tell me what that box was. I don't want
to wait until the installer comes out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The internet cable
will be new, going to an office, so that should be straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can connect to
the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to run a separate
new cable to the phone?


Are you getting the internet from TWC and I am not sure about how you are
getting the phone. Is that a standard phone or an internet type phone ?

The cable will come in to just a junction box outside the house. From there
it will be a run of rg-6 type cable to the office where you can either use
their modem box or you can buy your own modem for about $ 25 and often save
about $ 5 per month rent. You will also need to be where youcan plug the
modem into a 120 volt outlet.

If the phone is comming from the internet connection, there will be a modem
type box for that and it can be placed anywhere the cable is and probably a
120 volt AC outlet.

The other box is probalby just going to be a TV type splitter.




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On 12/6/14, 6:57 PM, Sasquatch Jones wrote:
I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house
that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is
typically installed inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else
is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent
and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would
like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable
modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me
what that box was. I don't want to wait until the installer comes
out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The
internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be
straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can
connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need
to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ



Unless TWC has exterior, weatherproof, cable modems (not likely), the
only thing on the outside of the house is the incoming cable (maybe a
lightning protector to a ground rod).

Cable modems are normally installed inside the house. It needs AC
power. Usually somewhere near the PC, unless you are also installing a
WiFi router for wireless Internet access in the house, or will run a
long Ethernet cable from the modem to PC.

For TWC phone, either the cable modem will be a version with built-in
VOIP phone capability, or it will be a separate box (that also needs
AC), connected to the cable modem. Either way, you can tie it into the
existing house phone wiring, depending on where you can get access to
the existing wires. Also, *very important*, you must disconnect the
incoming phone wires from your old phone co. Usually at a phone co box
on outside of house.

On 12/6/2014 7:42 PM, Retired wrote:
On 12/6/14, 6:57 PM, Sasquatch Jones wrote:
I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house
that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is
typically installed inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else
is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent
and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would
like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable
modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me
what that box was. I don't want to wait until the installer comes
out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The
internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be
straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can
connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need
to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ



Unless TWC has exterior, weatherproof, cable modems (not likely), the
only thing on the outside of the house is the incoming cable (maybe a
lightning protector to a ground rod).

Cable modems are normally installed inside the house. It needs AC
power. Usually somewhere near the PC, unless you are also installing a
WiFi router for wireless Internet access in the house, or will run a
long Ethernet cable from the modem to PC.

For TWC phone, either the cable modem will be a version with built-in
VOIP phone capability, or it will be a separate box (that also needs
AC), connected to the cable modem. Either way, you can tie it into the
existing house phone wiring, depending on where you can get access to
the existing wires. Also, *very important*, you must disconnect the
incoming phone wires from your old phone co. Usually at a phone co box
on outside of house.

Ayep, keep in mind that a power failure will lead to no phone service if
it is a VOIP phone service, they never mention that.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:07:22 -0500, FrozenNorth
wrote:

On 12/6/2014 7:42 PM, Retired wrote:
On 12/6/14, 6:57 PM, Sasquatch Jones wrote:
I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house
that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is
typically installed inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else
is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent
and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would
like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable
modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me
what that box was. I don't want to wait until the installer comes
out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The
internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be
straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can
connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need
to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ



Unless TWC has exterior, weatherproof, cable modems (not likely), the
only thing on the outside of the house is the incoming cable (maybe a
lightning protector to a ground rod).

Cable modems are normally installed inside the house. It needs AC
power. Usually somewhere near the PC, unless you are also installing a
WiFi router for wireless Internet access in the house, or will run a
long Ethernet cable from the modem to PC.

For TWC phone, either the cable modem will be a version with built-in
VOIP phone capability, or it will be a separate box (that also needs
AC), connected to the cable modem. Either way, you can tie it into the
existing house phone wiring, depending on where you can get access to
the existing wires. Also, *very important*, you must disconnect the
incoming phone wires from your old phone co. Usually at a phone co box
on outside of house.

Ayep, keep in mind that a power failure will lead to no phone service if
it is a VOIP phone service, they never mention that.
Connect your voip modem and your cable modem/router to a UPS. Connect
your phone base to a UPS as well if it is a cordless or other
electronic phone that requires power. That way you have phone service
as long as the battery holds out.

was thinking very hard :
On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:07:22 -0500, FrozenNorth
wrote:

On 12/6/2014 7:42 PM, Retired wrote:
On 12/6/14, 6:57 PM, Sasquatch Jones wrote:
I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house
that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is
typically installed inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else
is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent
and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would
like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable
modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me
what that box was. I don't want to wait until the installer comes
out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The
internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be
straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can
connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need
to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ



Unless TWC has exterior, weatherproof, cable modems (not likely), the
only thing on the outside of the house is the incoming cable (maybe a
lightning protector to a ground rod).

Cable modems are normally installed inside the house. It needs AC
power. Usually somewhere near the PC, unless you are also installing a
WiFi router for wireless Internet access in the house, or will run a
long Ethernet cable from the modem to PC.

For TWC phone, either the cable modem will be a version with built-in
VOIP phone capability, or it will be a separate box (that also needs
AC), connected to the cable modem. Either way, you can tie it into the
existing house phone wiring, depending on where you can get access to
the existing wires. Also, *very important*, you must disconnect the
incoming phone wires from your old phone co. Usually at a phone co box
on outside of house.

Ayep, keep in mind that a power failure will lead to no phone service if
it is a VOIP phone service, they never mention that.
Connect your voip modem and your cable modem/router to a UPS. Connect
your phone base to a UPS as well if it is a cordless or other
electronic phone that requires power. That way you have phone service
as long as the battery holds out.

Only if the street repeaters for the cable have power. :-Z

Old POTS phones relied on power only at the exchange which could have
had a backup generator.

--
John G Sydney.

On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:53:44 +1100, John G wrote:

was thinking very hard :
On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:07:22 -0500, FrozenNorth
wrote:

On 12/6/2014 7:42 PM, Retired wrote:
On 12/6/14, 6:57 PM, Sasquatch Jones wrote:
I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house
that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is
typically installed inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else
is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent
and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would
like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable
modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me
what that box was. I don't want to wait until the installer comes
out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The
internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be
straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can
connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need
to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ



Unless TWC has exterior, weatherproof, cable modems (not likely), the
only thing on the outside of the house is the incoming cable (maybe a
lightning protector to a ground rod).

Cable modems are normally installed inside the house. It needs AC
power. Usually somewhere near the PC, unless you are also installing a
WiFi router for wireless Internet access in the house, or will run a
long Ethernet cable from the modem to PC.

For TWC phone, either the cable modem will be a version with built-in
VOIP phone capability, or it will be a separate box (that also needs
AC), connected to the cable modem. Either way, you can tie it into the
existing house phone wiring, depending on where you can get access to
the existing wires. Also, *very important*, you must disconnect the
incoming phone wires from your old phone co. Usually at a phone co box
on outside of house.

Ayep, keep in mind that a power failure will lead to no phone service if
it is a VOIP phone service, they never mention that.
Connect your voip modem and your cable modem/router to a UPS. Connect
your phone base to a UPS as well if it is a cordless or other
electronic phone that requires power. That way you have phone service
as long as the battery holds out.

Only if the street repeaters for the cable have power. :-Z

Old POTS phones relied on power only at the exchange which could have
had a backup generator.
Generally just had huge battery banks.

On 12/06/2014 07:53 PM, John G wrote:

[snip]

Only if the street repeaters for the cable have power. :-Z

Old POTS phones relied on power only at the exchange which could have
had a backup generator.


When I got cable phone, I tested the battery and found it would last 10
hours. Then a storm (Ike) came and power was out for a few days. The
phone was usable for only 4 hours since that was how long the battery at
the cable node lasted. It was another 24 hours before the cable company
put a generator there.

--
18 days until the winter celebration (Thursday December 25, 2014
12:00:00 AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us

"He was a wise man who invented God." [Plato (427? - 348? BC)]

FrozenNorth wrote:
On 12/6/2014 7:42 PM, Retired wrote:
On 12/6/14, 6:57 PM, Sasquatch Jones wrote:
I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house
that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is
typically installed inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else
is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent
and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would
like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable
modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me
what that box was. I don't want to wait until the installer comes
out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The
internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be
straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can
connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need
to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ



Unless TWC has exterior, weatherproof, cable modems (not likely), the
only thing on the outside of the house is the incoming cable (maybe a
lightning protector to a ground rod).

Cable modems are normally installed inside the house. It needs AC
power. Usually somewhere near the PC, unless you are also installing a
WiFi router for wireless Internet access in the house, or will run a
long Ethernet cable from the modem to PC.

For TWC phone, either the cable modem will be a version with built-in
VOIP phone capability, or it will be a separate box (that also needs
AC), connected to the cable modem. Either way, you can tie it into the
existing house phone wiring, depending on where you can get access to
the existing wires. Also, *very important*, you must disconnect the
incoming phone wires from your old phone co. Usually at a phone co box
on outside of house.

Ayep, keep in mind that a power failure will lead to no phone service if
it is a VOIP phone service, they never mention that.

I know my older comcast box had a battery. I assume my current box has one
too. The trouble is, if you don't have a line operated phone, the phone
goes off unless the base has a battery.

Greg

On 12/7/2014 2:19 AM, gregz wrote:
FrozenNorth wrote:
On 12/6/2014 7:42 PM, Retired wrote:
On 12/6/14, 6:57 PM, Sasquatch Jones wrote:
I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house
that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is
typically installed inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else
is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent
and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would
like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable
modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me
what that box was. I don't want to wait until the installer comes
out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The
internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be
straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can
connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need
to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ



Unless TWC has exterior, weatherproof, cable modems (not likely), the
only thing on the outside of the house is the incoming cable (maybe a
lightning protector to a ground rod).

Cable modems are normally installed inside the house. It needs AC
power. Usually somewhere near the PC, unless you are also installing a
WiFi router for wireless Internet access in the house, or will run a
long Ethernet cable from the modem to PC.

For TWC phone, either the cable modem will be a version with built-in
VOIP phone capability, or it will be a separate box (that also needs
AC), connected to the cable modem. Either way, you can tie it into the
existing house phone wiring, depending on where you can get access to
the existing wires. Also, *very important*, you must disconnect the
incoming phone wires from your old phone co. Usually at a phone co box
on outside of house.

Ayep, keep in mind that a power failure will lead to no phone service if
it is a VOIP phone service, they never mention that.

I know my older comcast box had a battery. I assume my current box has one
too. The trouble is, if you don't have a line operated phone, the phone
goes off unless the base has a battery.

Greg


There is a battery in my Comcast phone modem but phone did not work in
recent power outage. Maybe battery powers wifi only. Have not tested
it that much but I have UPS's on computers and internet appears
connected although I just use UPS for gentle shut down to avoid crash.

I've also got a FIOS phone where there is a backup battery and it did
not lose phone service.

On op's question, no matter what hook up, get them to install modem
whether yours or theirs. I think if phone is included you need their
modem with built in phone service and wifi.

Before I got Comcast triple play with phone, I had my own modem and when
it went bad it was a PITA for me to install. Some of these helpline
people don't really know what they are doing and install techs deal with
competent people.

On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 15:57:40 -0800, "Sasquatch Jones"
wrote:

I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically installed inside the house?

I actually don't meet your critieria, but...

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and stop there.

They'll be happy to stop. The harder part is getting them to go as far
as you want.

And for your own sake, it would be best if you have finished what you
plan to do before they get there. So you can test the TW input. Even
if they made a mistake, if you don't let them test or test yourself
before they leave, I can envision a charge for a service call to come
out another time and find even their own mistake. At least such a
charge woudl be fair, even if they don't do it.

As to Time Warner I have no experience with them, but I'll bet it
depends on what city youre in or even what part of town, or even which
guy you get. IIRC, 15 years ago, the same company that provides cable in
Baltimore would not provide cable to the room my brother in Dallas
wanted. He had no basement and no floor in most of the attic, and they
wouldn't go under the driveway, and going around back had lots of
obstacles, and last I saw the cable, it was running down the hall, under
a rug, from where they put it to where he wanted it. When I called
the same company in Baltimore, they said they'd put in whatever room the
customer picked.

Do the cable lines come in through the ground, or from the top of a
telephone pole? If the ground, I'm surpised you'd be willing to let
tw run the cable up the side of your house, rather than do that
yourself**. Some places and/or some guys do things just right. better
than I could do, but other times it's the opposite. I don't know
about inside vs. outside quality, if it is different, but much cable
comes in 10 colors. and can be stuffed in the corner next to the
downspout (is that bad for transmission? I don't think so. )

**You might even want to install electricity in your attic (or run an
extension cord??) , for the cable box, and so forth, or some other
method to get the cable from the attic to electricity


I'll take care of it from there on. So I would like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me what that box was.

IIUC, it's Pandora's Box.

I don't want to wait until the installer comes out.

Oh, good. Ignore some of the text above.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ

On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:38:30 -0500, micky
wrote:

On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 15:57:40 -0800, "Sasquatch Jones"
wrote:

I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically installed inside the house?

I actually don't meet your critieria, but...

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and stop there.

They'll be happy to stop. The harder part is getting them to go as far
as you want.

And for your own sake, it would be best if you have finished what you
plan to do before they get there. So you can test the TW input. Even
if they made a mistake, if you don't let them test or test yourself
before they leave, I can envision a charge for a service call to come
out another time and find even their own mistake. At least such a
charge woudl be fair, even if they don't do it.

As to Time Warner I have no experience with them, but I'll bet it
depends on what city youre in or even what part of town, or even which
guy you get. IIRC, 15 years ago, the same company that provides cable in
Baltimore would not provide cable to the room my brother in Dallas
wanted. He had no basement and no floor in most of the attic, and they
wouldn't go under the driveway, and going around back had lots of
obstacles, and last I saw the cable, it was running down the hall, under
a rug, from where they put it to where he wanted it. When I called
the same company in Baltimore, they said they'd put in whatever room the
customer picked.

Do the cable lines come in through the ground, or from the top of a
telephone pole? If the ground, I'm surpised you'd be willing to let
tw run the cable up the side of your house, rather than do that
yourself**. Some places and/or some guys do things just right. better
than I could do, but other times it's the opposite. I don't know
about inside vs. outside quality, if it is different, but much cable
comes in 10 colors. and can be stuffed in the corner next to the
downspout (is that bad for transmission? I don't think so. )

**You might even want to install electricity in your attic (or run an
extension cord??) , for the cable box, and so forth, or some other
method to get the cable from the attic to electricity


I'll take care of it from there on. So I would like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me what that box was.

IIUC, it's Pandora's Box.

I don't want to wait until the installer comes out.

Oh, good. Ignore some of the text above.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ

I think I've got the best "installer hell" story.
When I worked in Livingston Zambia, the wait for a land line was over
a year. A friend finally "won the lottery" and his chance to have a
phone installed came. He was working so he left the key for the side
entrance for the installer to get in. When he came home he could not
get in the front door because the phone wire was tacked to the front
door frame and run through the skeleton key hole in the latch....I
guess the installer from the post office (operators of the phone
system) figured they only used the side door since that's the key he
was given.

We pulled the wire out and made a hole through the concrete wall to
run it through.

We have cable Internet and phone, without TV.
There's a basic junction box outside. I think the
phone wire comes from there, though I don't remember
exactly. I just ran that phone wire to my old
phone junction in the cellar, taking off the Verizon
wire. The existing branch lines were fine just as
they were. I didn't need to rewire the extension
phones.

The cable just comes in to a cable modem, but
most people will also have a router. I ran wires from
the router, through walls, to provide outlets in various
rooms without needing to resort to wifi. But the cable
company only takes it to the cable modem.

The important thing is to avoid letting them do
any more than necessary. Have them bring it
in, from the outside wall, across the cellar ceiling,
whatever, to a chosen location and then get rid
of them! The chosen location can be anywhere if
you're prepared to run your own cable from a
router. But the installers *will not* be careful and
neat. They'll put big ugly staples all the way around
doors and windows to get across a room. They may
complain if they know you intend to hide wires. I
did that once in an apt where I lived. I was paying new
wood floors and used the opportunity to bury the
cables. Then we had a problem with the outside
connection and had to call the cable company. They
were upset that I'd buried the wires and threatened
to force me to accept a whole new rewiring job. I
finally got them to test the outside connection first
and they found the problem.

They may refuse to go up to the attic. You might
have to let them run it to one location that is
believable as the final destination. They don't like
you messing with the wiring yourself.


"Sasquatch Jones" wrote in message
news I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house that has
never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically installed
inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else is
needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and stop
there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would like to know what is
typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC cust service says
another "box" but could not tell me what that box was. I don't want to wait
until the installer comes out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The internet cable
will be new, going to an office, so that should be straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can connect to
the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to run a separate new
cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ

On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 20:43:22 -0500, "Mayayana"
wrote:

We have cable Internet and phone, without TV.
There's a basic junction box outside. I think the
phone wire comes from there, though I don't remember
exactly. I just ran that phone wire to my old
phone junction in the cellar, taking off the Verizon
wire. The existing branch lines were fine just as
they were. I didn't need to rewire the extension
phones.

The cable just comes in to a cable modem, but
most people will also have a router. I ran wires from
the router, through walls, to provide outlets in various
rooms without needing to resort to wifi. But the cable
company only takes it to the cable modem.

The important thing is to avoid letting them do
any more than necessary. Have them bring it
in, from the outside wall, across the cellar ceiling,
whatever, to a chosen location and then get rid
of them! The chosen location can be anywhere if
you're prepared to run your own cable from a
router. But the installers *will not* be careful and
neat. They'll put big ugly staples all the way around
doors and windows to get across a room. They may
complain if they know you intend to hide wires. I
did that once in an apt where I lived. I was paying new
wood floors and used the opportunity to bury the
cables. Then we had a problem with the outside
connection and had to call the cable company. They
were upset that I'd buried the wires and threatened
to force me to accept a whole new rewiring job. I
finally got them to test the outside connection first
and they found the problem.

They may refuse to go up to the attic. You might
have to let them run it to one location that is
believable as the final destination. They don't like
you messing with the wiring yourself.


"Sasquatch Jones" wrote in message
news I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house that has
never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically installed
inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else is
needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and stop
there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would like to know what is
typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC cust service says
another "box" but could not tell me what that box was. I don't want to wait
until the installer comes out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The internet cable
will be new, going to an office, so that should be straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can connect to
the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to run a separate new
cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ


Rogers Cable up here in Ontario actually did a pretty good job of
running the cable to the first location - I wired the rest years ago
and it worked well untill the switch to Digital and the higher speed
high-speed cable internet. They came in and switched all the splitters
and cable to the newer full sheild stuff. No cost to me, and I helped
running the cable - The installer remarked about my proficiency and
knowlege/understanding of the technology. (impressed that I had and
knew how to use the correct tools and cable ends)

On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 15:57:40 -0800, "Sasquatch Jones"
wrote:

I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically installed inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me what that box was. I don't want to wait until the installer comes out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ

There is the cable modem and there is a phone interface - both of
which need to be installed inside 0 and the phone interface can be
connected to the existing internal wiring - INSIDE the house.

Thanks for all the good info so fast! After all that, here's what I'm thinking.... Let me know if I'm off.....

Have cable box installed on ouside wall -- with a cable splitter inside the box if possible. If not, install the splitter up near the attic vent.

Run the cable for internet thru attic vent (right above where the box would be) with enough cable to drop thru the ceiling in a closet near the computer, and connect to the cable modem.

....
There is the cable modem and there is a phone interface - both of
which need to be installed inside 0 and the phone interface can be
connected to the existing internal wiring - INSIDE the house.

What about this? Instead of installing the phone interface inside, install it in the outside box or in a separate weather-proof box next to it. Connect the cable from the cable company to one side. Connect the exisiting phone wiring to the other side. That would prevent having to run a 2nd cable in or around the house and thru another ceiling. The attic or crawl space near the phone jack is diagonally opposite where the outside box will be. Also it's in a place that would be hard for the wife to get at. :O)

On Sat, 6 Dec 2014 18:48:41 -0800, "Sasquatch Jones"
wrote:

Thanks for all the good info so fast! After all that, here's what I'm thinking.... Let me know if I'm off.....

Have cable box installed on ouside wall -- with a cable splitter inside the box if possible. If not, install the splitter up near the attic vent.

Run the cable for internet thru attic vent (right above where the box would be) with enough cable to drop thru the ceiling in a closet near the computer, and connect to the cable modem.

....
There is the cable modem and there is a phone interface - both of
which need to be installed inside 0 and the phone interface can be
connected to the existing internal wiring - INSIDE the house.

What about this? Instead of installing the phone interface inside, install it in the outside box or in a separate weather-proof box next to it. Connect the cable from the cable company to one side. Connect the exisiting phone wiring to the other side. That would prevent having to run a 2nd cable in or around the house and thru another ceiling. The attic or crawl space near the phone jack is diagonally opposite where the outside box will be. Also it's in a place that would be hard for the wife to get at. :O)

One reason I'd never buy a house without a basement. All my services
come in underground. There is a "demarcation point" for the phone line
inside the basement (where the phone cable terminates and all the
interior extentions connect and plug in to a standard phone jack.
To switch to MagigJack plus I just need to unplug from bell and plug
into MagicJack. Same if I switch to Rogers Cable Home Phone..

My internet modem/router is about 6 feet from the demarcation point,
and about 15 feet from where the TV cable comes in.. The
phone/answering machine on the kitchen wall required power - which I
have routed up the second pair of the phone cable from the power
adapter connected to the 350 va UPS that also powers the
router/modem/wifi access point where the MagicJack Plus will shortly
also be installed. More than half an hour backup for the phone and
internet.

On Saturday, December 6, 2014 9:49:21 PM UTC-5, Sasquatch Jones wrote:
Thanks for all the good info so fast! After all that, here's what I'm thinking.... Let me know if I'm off.....

Have cable box installed on ouside wall -- with a cable splitter inside the box if possible. If not, install the splitter up near the attic vent.


Assuming there even is a box. Here Cablevision just has a cable that
enters the house. IDK what they are doing on new installs though, they
may use a box now.



Run the cable for internet thru attic vent (right above where the box would be) with enough cable to drop thru the ceiling in a closet near the computer, and connect to the cable modem.

....
There is the cable modem and there is a phone interface - both of
which need to be installed inside 0 and the phone interface can be
connected to the existing internal wiring - INSIDE the house.


IDK about this separate "phone interface". AFAIK, here if you get
phone service from the cable company they provide you with a cable
modem that also contains the phone interface. Coming out of it, you
have an ethernet or USB and a phone jack.




What about this? Instead of installing the phone interface inside, install it in the outside box or in a separate weather-proof box next to it.

You could theoretically put the cable modem with phone interface outside,
but I don't see the need to. It also has some big disadvantages. It's
typical for these to once in a while go into lala land and require them to
be powered down and back up to reset. If you're having trouble and call for
support, it's one of the first things they are going to tell you to do.
Plus they need to be plugged in via a walwart to AC. Putting it inside,
next to a wireless router, near your PC is the more typical approach and
what I would do. It's better to have an ethernet connection from a desktop
PC to the router. And then you have cable modem, wireless router, phone
connection all in one spot when any debugging is needed. They also have
lights on them that give status, which you won't be able to see in a box
when it's 35F and raining outside. Are you planning on having a wireless
router?



Connect the cable from the cable company to one side. Connect the exisiting phone wiring to the other side. That would prevent having to run a 2nd cable in or around the house and thru another ceiling. The attic or crawl space near the phone jack is diagonally opposite where the outside box will be. Also it's in a place that would be hard for the wife to get at. :O)

For phone, I'd probably forget about using the house twisted pair wiring.
For most people, there isn't much need any more.
Just get a cordless phone system, with answering machine, 4 phones, for $50..
Put it near the modem, router, etc and just plug it in. I have that, plus
one connection to my MFC printer/fax. Can't remember last time I even sent
a fax.....

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
For phone, I'd probably forget about using the house twisted pair wiring.
For most people, there isn't much need any more.
Just get a cordless phone system, with answering machine, 4 phones, for
$50.
Put it near the modem, router, etc and just plug it in. I have that, plus
one connection to my MFC printer/fax. Can't remember last time I even sent
a fax.....

I jsut bought a all in one printer because I wanted a wireless printer and
the FAX part. I needed to send a couple of FAX to my IRA bank. First time
I have needed a fax in about 10 years.
By catching one on sell, it is about the same as the ink refills.



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"Sasquatch Jones" wrote in message
news
I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever
else is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic
vent and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. . . .
I wonder if TWC can connect to the existing phone wiring outside
or if they will need to run a separate new cable to the phone?

What did TWC installers answer when you asked them?
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

"Don Phillipson" wrote in message ...
"Sasquatch Jones" wrote in messag news
I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever
else is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic
vent and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. . . .
I wonder if TWC can connect to the existing phone wiring outside
or if they will need to run a separate new cable to the phone?

What did TWC installers answer when you asked them?
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

Installer will be here Wednesday. Until then, only phone jockeys with limited technical info. I posted a sketch at alt.binaries.schematics.electronics and alt.binaries.schematics.electronic. Does the routing shown look reasonable?

SJ

I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house
that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically
installed inside the house?
I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else is
needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and stop
there. I'll take care of it from there on.

You will have a single coax cable running from the pole to your house. In
my case, Comcast ran it underground using a vibrating plow (buries the
cable without having to dig a trench).

I only get internet access from Comcast, so I have the simplest
installation possible. The incoming cable connects directly to the cable
modem. I then connect my VOIP phone adapter to my internet router.

If you will also have cable TV, the incoming cable will connect to a
splitter. Then you will have cables running to each TV outlet throughout
your house.

As others have mentioned, it is unlikely the cable installers will do a
neat and tidy installation. For them it's about getting things done as
quickly as possible with as little effort as possible. They'll drill
holes wherever desired and staple cables to the outside of your home.

I chose to do the wiring inside our home before the cable installers came
out. I installed a conduit from our crawlspace under the foundation to a
point outside the building. The cable company then brought the cable to
my conduit and gave me enough slack to make the connection inside. I let
the installers know I was particular about the installation, and they
were happy to accomodate my needs. It was more work on my part, but I
have no visible cables on the exterior of our home.

If you do the wiring yourself, make sure you use high quality RG6 cable
and compression style connectors. Those cheap crimp-on style connectors
will really degrade your signal and cause problems with your internet
connection. These days you can find the cable, compression connectors,
and the compression tool at Home Depot. If you need a splitter, you might
want to shop Amazon for a better quality splitter.

what is typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC cust
service says another "box" but could not tell me what that box was.

You will need a cable modem. You can either rent one from the cable
company (typically about $5/month), or you can buy your own. I rented the
first couple years then bought my own.

After the cable modem, you will probably want to buy and install a Wi-Fi
router. This typically gives you four ethernet connections for your
computers or devices, as well as providing a Wi-Fi signal for your mobile
devices.

If you are getting your phone service through your cable, you will need a
small phone adapter (usually provided by the phone service). This plugs
into your router, then your phone connects to the adapter. I get my phone
service through 1-VOIP instead of paying the cable companies higher
rates.

If you have cable TV, you will also have a cable box or digital adapter
at each TV.

We just use an outdoor antenna for our TV signal, then subscribe to
Netflix for Movies.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can
connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to
run a separate new cable to the phone?

If you disconnect the existing phone company from your house wiring, you
can connect the VOIP adapter to your existing phone line. However, I
found it easier to just get a wireless phone system. The base unit
connects to the VOIP adapter, then I can place the other handsets around
the house as needed.

Hope this helps.

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

"HerHusband" wrote in message
...

If you do the wiring yourself, make sure you use high quality RG6 cable
and compression style connectors. Those cheap crimp-on style connectors
will really degrade your signal and cause problems with your internet
connection. These days you can find the cable, compression connectors,
and the compression tool at Home Depot. If you need a splitter, you might
want to shop Amazon for a better quality splitter.

You may be able to talk the cable company out of some cable and connectors
for free if you do the inside wiring. That assures them the cable is to
spec. You may have to get a special tool just for the connectors they use
as there are several differant kinds of connectors that fit the cable.



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Ralph,

You may be able to talk the cable company out of some cable and
connectors for free if you do the inside wiring. That assures them
the cable is to spec. You may have to get a special tool just for
the connectors they use as there are several differant kinds of
connectors that fit the cable.

The Comcast installers did give me an "approved" splitter, even though the
one I bought separately was better quality. It didn't make any difference
in my signal, but I used theirs just to keep the tech's happy.

Once I dropped cable TV, I didn't need the splitter anymore so the cable
line now goes directly to my cable modem.

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

On Sunday, December 7, 2014 12:52:07 PM UTC-5, HerHusband wrote:
I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house
that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically
installed inside the house?
I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else is
needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and stop
there. I'll take care of it from there on.

You will have a single coax cable running from the pole to your house. In
my case, Comcast ran it underground using a vibrating plow (buries the
cable without having to dig a trench).

I only get internet access from Comcast, so I have the simplest
installation possible. The incoming cable connects directly to the cable
modem. I then connect my VOIP phone adapter to my internet router.

If you will also have cable TV, the incoming cable will connect to a
splitter. Then you will have cables running to each TV outlet throughout
your house.

As others have mentioned, it is unlikely the cable installers will do a
neat and tidy installation. For them it's about getting things done as
quickly as possible with as little effort as possible. They'll drill
holes wherever desired and staple cables to the outside of your home.

I chose to do the wiring inside our home before the cable installers came
out. I installed a conduit from our crawlspace under the foundation to a
point outside the building. The cable company then brought the cable to
my conduit and gave me enough slack to make the connection inside. I let
the installers know I was particular about the installation, and they
were happy to accomodate my needs. It was more work on my part, but I
have no visible cables on the exterior of our home.

If you do the wiring yourself, make sure you use high quality RG6 cable
and compression style connectors. Those cheap crimp-on style connectors
will really degrade your signal and cause problems with your internet
connection. These days you can find the cable, compression connectors,
and the compression tool at Home Depot. If you need a splitter, you might
want to shop Amazon for a better quality splitter.

what is typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC cust
service says another "box" but could not tell me what that box was.

You will need a cable modem. You can either rent one from the cable
company (typically about $5/month), or you can buy your own. I rented the
first couple years then bought my own.


Depends on the cable company. Cablevision here gives you a cable modem,
no extra charge.



After the cable modem, you will probably want to buy and install a Wi-Fi
router. This typically gives you four ethernet connections for your
computers or devices, as well as providing a Wi-Fi signal for your mobile
devices.


That's what most folks do because they have wireless widgets that need
connection.

If you are getting your phone service through your cable, you will need a
small phone adapter (usually provided by the phone service). This plugs
into your router, then your phone connects to the adapter. I get my phone
service through 1-VOIP instead of paying the cable companies higher
rates.


Again, that depends on the cable company. If you get phone bundled in
with Cablevision, you get a single unit that's both the cable modem and the
VOIP adapter


If you have cable TV, you will also have a cable box or digital adapter
at each TV.

We just use an outdoor antenna for our TV signal, then subscribe to
Netflix for Movies.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can
connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to
run a separate new cable to the phone?

If you disconnect the existing phone company from your house wiring, you
can connect the VOIP adapter to your existing phone line. However, I
found it easier to just get a wireless phone system. The base unit
connects to the VOIP adapter, then I can place the other handsets around
the house as needed.


I agree that today that makes the most sense. It's how I have it. No
need to get twisted pair phone wiring to work at every phone jack in the
house anymore.

Depends on the cable company. Cablevision here gives you a cable
modem, no extra charge.

Cool. Comcast seems to charge me for EVERYTHING!

Again, that depends on the cable company. If you get phone bundled in
with Cablevision, you get a single unit that's both the cable modem
and the VOIP adapter

Interesting. Does that lock you into Cablevisions VOIP service or can you
use it with other VOIP providers?

I agree that today that makes the most sense. It's how I have it. No
need to get twisted pair phone wiring to work at every phone jack in
the house anymore.

I originally connected my phone wiring to the adapter. We ran it that way
for a few years, then something went goofy with the phone wiring. It was
easier to get a new wireless phone system than try to track down what was
wrong with the wiring.

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

On Sunday, December 7, 2014 4:49:52 PM UTC-5, HerHusband wrote:
Depends on the cable company. Cablevision here gives you a cable
modem, no extra charge.

Cool. Comcast seems to charge me for EVERYTHING!

Again, that depends on the cable company. If you get phone bundled in
with Cablevision, you get a single unit that's both the cable modem
and the VOIP adapter

Interesting. Does that lock you into Cablevisions VOIP service or can you
use it with other VOIP providers?


You can't use the Cablevision VOIP hardware with any other VOIP service.
But you can use any other VOIP hardware and service, eg Ooma, Vonage,
MagicJack, etc. That stuff is so cheap, it doesn't much matter.



..

On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 17:51:46 +0000 (UTC), HerHusband
wrote:

I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house
that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically
installed inside the house?
I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else is
needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and stop
there. I'll take care of it from there on.

You will have a single coax cable running from the pole to your house. In
my case, Comcast ran it underground using a vibrating plow (buries the
cable without having to dig a trench).

I only get internet access from Comcast, so I have the simplest
installation possible. The incoming cable connects directly to the cable
modem. I then connect my VOIP phone adapter to my internet router.

If you will also have cable TV, the incoming cable will connect to a
splitter. Then you will have cables running to each TV outlet throughout
your house.

As others have mentioned, it is unlikely the cable installers will do a
neat and tidy installation. For them it's about getting things done as
quickly as possible with as little effort as possible. They'll drill
holes wherever desired and staple cables to the outside of your home.

I chose to do the wiring inside our home before the cable installers came
out. I installed a conduit from our crawlspace under the foundation to a
point outside the building. The cable company then brought the cable to
my conduit and gave me enough slack to make the connection inside. I let
the installers know I was particular about the installation, and they
were happy to accomodate my needs. It was more work on my part, but I
have no visible cables on the exterior of our home.

If you do the wiring yourself, make sure you use high quality RG6 cable
and compression style connectors. Those cheap crimp-on style connectors
will really degrade your signal and cause problems with your internet
connection. These days you can find the cable, compression connectors,
and the compression tool at Home Depot. If you need a splitter, you might
want to shop Amazon for a better quality splitter.

Rogers supplies the good splitters for me at no extra charge

what is typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC cust
service says another "box" but could not tell me what that box was.

You will need a cable modem. You can either rent one from the cable
company (typically about $5/month), or you can buy your own. I rented the
first couple years then bought my own.

After the cable modem, you will probably want to buy and install a Wi-Fi
router. This typically gives you four ethernet connections for your
computers or devices, as well as providing a Wi-Fi signal for your mobile
devices.

The current modem/router I have rented from Rogers includes the WiFi -
it is a Hitron unit - modem, router and wifi in one.

They have replaced the modem 5 or 6 times since I signed on with thwm
15 or so years ago - a couple failures, the rest upgrades -and there
is a better, faster modem available right now if I decide I want ot
upgrade again. The last one was a modem/router without wifi which I
connected to my own wifi-router (which I had also replaced several
times over the last number of years since adding wi-fi)
I could own my own modem for less money, but even being in the
business, with the hassle of getting the "right" unit as a replacement
when I need it, and having to deal with the hassle of "who's problem
is it", I'll just keep renting the box. When it doesn't work, THEY fix
it.
For the TV I own one HD box, and get free rent for the first 2 years
on the HDPVR.

One of these days I'll actually throw Bell to the curb and install my
MagicJack as my primary phone service.

If you are getting your phone service through your cable, you will need a
small phone adapter (usually provided by the phone service). This plugs
into your router, then your phone connects to the adapter. I get my phone
service through 1-VOIP instead of paying the cable companies higher
rates.

If you have cable TV, you will also have a cable box or digital adapter
at each TV.

We just use an outdoor antenna for our TV signal, then subscribe to
Netflix for Movies.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can
connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to
run a separate new cable to the phone?

If you disconnect the existing phone company from your house wiring, you
can connect the VOIP adapter to your existing phone line. However, I
found it easier to just get a wireless phone system. The base unit
connects to the VOIP adapter, then I can place the other handsets around
the house as needed.

Hope this helps.

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

The current modem/router I have rented from Rogers includes the WiFi -
it is a Hitron unit - modem, router and wifi in one.

Interesting, I didn't know they made all-in-one devices like that.

Still, I have never been a fan of all-in-one units (i.e. TV/VCR combos). If
one part breaks you have to replace the entire unit. I like being able to
replace/upgrade each item individually.

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

On Sunday, December 7, 2014 4:55:57 PM UTC-5, HerHusband wrote:
The current modem/router I have rented from Rogers includes the WiFi -
it is a Hitron unit - modem, router and wifi in one.

Interesting, I didn't know they made all-in-one devices like that.

Still, I have never been a fan of all-in-one units (i.e. TV/VCR combos). If
one part breaks you have to replace the entire unit. I like being able to
replace/upgrade each item individually.

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

Except that the price of the integrated unit is typically about the
same price as just one component, so doing it in two or more widgets is
typically going to cost 2X+.

On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 21:55:36 +0000 (UTC), HerHusband
wrote:

The current modem/router I have rented from Rogers includes the WiFi -
it is a Hitron unit - modem, router and wifi in one.

Interesting, I didn't know they made all-in-one devices like that.

Still, I have never been a fan of all-in-one units (i.e. TV/VCR combos). If
one part breaks you have to replace the entire unit. I like being able to
replace/upgrade each item individually.

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com
The advantage in this case is you don't need to worry about
compatability and arguing with your supplier about which part is
causing the problem. If you supply your own router/wifi device and
you have trouble with your internet they will make you chase your tale
for an hour proving the problem is not with YOUR hardware.. Then when
they decide it IS your problem, and you get a new one and it STILL
doesn't work - - - -.

Been there, done that, with Bell on customer's systems. As I said
before - being in the computer business I can buy a router/wifi CHEAP.
I can buy a cable modem for a few bucks less than Rogers will sell it
to me for, and buy another one when I need an upgrade or it fails.
Added into my monthly bill and expensed it's not worth my while to own
the darn thing. (and GENERALLY I would rather own anything than rent
it - water heaters, water softeners, cars, homes, computers, Just
about anything.)

Sasquatch Jones wrote:
I wonder if someone who has had cable internet installed in a house that has never had cable could give me some idea of what is typically installed inside the house?

I would like Time Warner Cable to install the box and whatever else is needed on the outside and run the cable(s) into an attic vent and stop there. I'll take care of it from there on. So I would like to know what is typically installed inside besides the cable modem. TWC cust service says another "box" but could not tell me what that box was. I don't want to wait until the installer comes out.

I'll be getting broadband internet and one phone line. The internet cable will be new, going to an office, so that should be straightforward.

The phone is in the other end of the house. I wonder if TWC can connect to the existing phone wiring outside or if they will need to run a separate new cable to the phone?

Thanks!

SJ


My provider put a junction box on the back of my garage and ran the
cable from the pole to the junction box, where he put a union in and
then ran is underground (I had buried a conduit there) into the house
and to a splitter. All that was necessary for cable TV; they didn't
offer internet service at that time. My local ISP, where you could
actually call and talk to a knowledgeable person, lost some key
employees and was sold to a larger company. So when my cable company
offered internet service I switched.

They came out and attached another splitter, which they ran to what they
called a modem, and since my computer was in a corner of the house and
the basement, they put the "modem" there, with a cable running to my
computer. I remember there were a lot of service calls then, as they
tried to get the signal compatible with my TV and my Computer. Years
passed and my desktop became outdated, so I bought a laptop. Who looks
on the back and sides of a laptop to see if there is a printer port?
Not me. So I ended up getting a wireless router and a new printer. It
was nice to get rid of a lot of wires, and to be able to move my stuff
anywhere.

Why do I write this? Because we are all moving to a wireless
environment, and you should plan for that.

We progressed to three computers and the printer, with nary a wire. But
when we added two smartphones, that can hook up to WIFI, we were losing
and missing calls because the phone service providers apparently didn't
put network coverage in our area, and my wireless router, stuck in a
corner of the basement by the "modem" couldn't get adequate coverage to
the whole house (apparently laptops have a good antenna and can handle a
weak signal, while smartphones fall short). So I bought a more powerful
wireless router and spent a lot of dirty hours moving the "modem" and
router to the center of the house, and all is well.

My suggestion for a first installation is that you have them run the
cable to a centralized location, which has power, and be ready for an
eventual move to wireless.

My son in California has, I believe TWC, and when they installed it they
ran the cable along the baseboard to the cabinet where he has a router
and more cables to his TVs. Wiring is hard out there as the homes are
all built on slabs, and I can't think of a better way to do it.

When I signed on for phone service from my cable company they gave me
two phones; one is the base and has a charger unit wired to the "modem"
and a power supply, and the second has a holder wired to a power supply.
Both have the warning that they don't work if there is a power supply,
but if we have an emergency, I'll just run outside with my smartphone
and build a cell tower. I can't remember ever using those phones. The
cable company offered a deal where if I added phone service for $20 a
month as part of a bundle, they would reduce my payment by $50 a month,
and I can still do math.

On Sunday, December 7, 2014 5:06:20 PM UTC-5, No name wrote:
..

Why do I write this? Because we are all moving to a wireless
environment, and you should plan for that.

..

My suggestion for a first installation is that you have them run the
cable to a centralized location, which has power, and be ready for an
eventual move to wireless.

..

Several of us have mentioned a wireless router now, but you bring up
a good point, which is location. So far, haven't heard if the OP needs
wireless now or not, but most of us do and your point of at least taking
the location for a wireless router into consideration is a good one.
Some centralized location would be ideal, but it doesn't have to be
centralized. I have my wireless router on the second floor at one end of
the house and get good coverage down to first floor at the other end.
If it were easy and practical central would be better. But the closer you
can get to that, without a lot of trouble, the beter.

Several of us have mentioned a wireless router now, but you bring up
a good point, which is location. So far, haven't heard if the OP
needs wireless now or not, but most of us do and your point of at
least taking the location for a wireless router into consideration is
a good one. Some centralized location would be ideal, but it doesn't
have to be centralized. I have my wireless router on the second floor
at one end of the house and get good coverage down to first floor at
the other end. If it were easy and practical central would be better.
But the closer you can get to that, without a lot of trouble, the
beter.

My router is located near my computer in my home office so it's easy to
connect the computer, VOIP adapter, network printer, etc. However, the
location under my desk is not ideal for Wi-Fi coverage.

So I ran a network cable up to my "attic" space and added a wireless access
point there. It is up high, right in the center of the house, so I get
great coverage anywhere inside and most places outside as well.

In my experience, the cable connection is more finicky than ethernet
cables. Any cable connection that was less than perfect, or a splitter that
was not up to par, would completely wipe out my internet service. In
comparison, I can plug in a CAT5 cable and run it just about anywhere with
no issues.

I recommend putting the cable modem as close to the incoming cable as
possible, with as few splitters as possible. You can always add an access
point to improve wireless, or network switches to get more network
connections.

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

"HerHusband" wrote in message ...
Several of us have mentioned a wireless router now, but you bring up
a good point, which is location. So far, haven't heard if the OP
needs wireless now or not, but most of us do and your point of at
least taking the location for a wireless router into consideration is
a good one. Some centralized location would be ideal, but it doesn't
have to be centralized. I have my wireless router on the second floor
at one end of the house and get good coverage down to first floor at
the other end. If it were easy and practical central would be better.
But the closer you can get to that, without a lot of trouble, the
beter.

My router is located near my computer in my home office so it's easy to
connect the computer, VOIP adapter, network printer, etc. However, the
location under my desk is not ideal for Wi-Fi coverage.

So I ran a network cable up to my "attic" space and added a wireless access
point there. It is up high, right in the center of the house, so I get
great coverage anywhere inside and most places outside as well.

In my experience, the cable connection is more finicky than ethernet
cables. Any cable connection that was less than perfect, or a splitter that
was not up to par, would completely wipe out my internet service. In
comparison, I can plug in a CAT5 cable and run it just about anywhere with
no issues.

I recommend putting the cable modem as close to the incoming cable as
possible, with as few splitters as possible. You can always add an access
point to improve wireless, or network switches to get more network
connections.

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

Thanks, AW. In my case, it will take about 50-feet of cable to go from the outside interconnection box to the computer. Would I get a faster connection if the modem is located near the outside box or near the computer?

On Mon, 8 Dec 2014 18:50:22 -0800, "Sasquatch Jones"
wrote:

"HerHusband" wrote in message ...
Several of us have mentioned a wireless router now, but you bring up
a good point, which is location. So far, haven't heard if the OP
needs wireless now or not, but most of us do and your point of at
least taking the location for a wireless router into consideration is
a good one. Some centralized location would be ideal, but it doesn't
have to be centralized. I have my wireless router on the second floor
at one end of the house and get good coverage down to first floor at
the other end. If it were easy and practical central would be better.
But the closer you can get to that, without a lot of trouble, the
beter.

My router is located near my computer in my home office so it's easy to
connect the computer, VOIP adapter, network printer, etc. However, the
location under my desk is not ideal for Wi-Fi coverage.

So I ran a network cable up to my "attic" space and added a wireless access
point there. It is up high, right in the center of the house, so I get
great coverage anywhere inside and most places outside as well.

In my experience, the cable connection is more finicky than ethernet
cables. Any cable connection that was less than perfect, or a splitter that
was not up to par, would completely wipe out my internet service. In
comparison, I can plug in a CAT5 cable and run it just about anywhere with
no issues.

I recommend putting the cable modem as close to the incoming cable as
possible, with as few splitters as possible. You can always add an access
point to improve wireless, or network switches to get more network
connections.

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

Thanks, AW. In my case, it will take about 50-feet of cable to go from the outside interconnection box to the computer. Would I get a faster connection if the modem is located near the outside box or near the computer?

Nope. If the cable is good the length has virtually no effect on the
computer signal. Multiple connections can though.