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Today, I drive down to Costco, to fill my trunk with 50 gallons of gas:
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3892/1...7df1c083_b.jpg

When, lo and behold, I smell strong gas fumes while driving.
So, I pull over, and open the trunk, and what do I see?

Yet another plastic spout cap broke along the perimeter:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5559/1...47f6daf7_b.jpg

So, I stop by Lowes to pick up a replacement 5-gallon portable storage can:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5557/1...91f0eeca_b.jpg

Resigning myself to transferring the gas from the old can to the new
can, lo and behold, I find that the new cap seemingly fits the old
threaded neck, yet, the converse isn't true.
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3882/1...71ae219f_b.jpg

The old spout doesn't seem to fit the new can's threaded neck. Huh?
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3868/1...2b1332bd_b.jpg

I ask: How can it be that the new spout fits the old can, but that
the old spout doesn't fit the new can?
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3894/1...38b485eb_b.jpg

One reason it matters is that I have more than a few of these
one or two year old gas cans where all the spouts break the same!
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3924/1...4ce3cb93_b.jpg
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Danny D. wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:58:00 +0000:

One reason it matters is that I have more than a few of these
one or two year old gas cans where all the spouts break the same!
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3924/1...4ce3cb93_b.jpg


BTW, if anyone knows where I can get *just* the cap, instead
of having the replace the entire year or two old 5-gallon gas
can every time one of these caps breaks, that would be helfpul:

https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3894/1...38b485eb_b.jpg

I never use the spout, as I siphon the gasoline out, so, I have
no need for anything other than a one-piece cap, if I could find it.

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On 9/12/2014 4:02 AM, Danny D. wrote:
Danny D. wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:58:00 +0000:

One reason it matters is that I have more than a few of these
one or two year old gas cans where all the spouts break the same!
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3924/1...4ce3cb93_b.jpg


BTW, if anyone knows where I can get *just* the cap, instead
of having the replace the entire year or two old 5-gallon gas
can every time one of these caps breaks, that would be helfpul:

https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3894/1...38b485eb_b.jpg

I never use the spout, as I siphon the gasoline out, so, I have
no need for anything other than a one-piece cap, if I could find it.




http://ezpourspout.com/

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AMuzi wrote:
On 9/12/2014 4:02 AM, Danny D. wrote:
Danny D. wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:58:00 +0000:

One reason it matters is that I have more than a few of these
one or two year old gas cans where all the spouts break the same!
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3924/1...4ce3cb93_b.jpg

BTW, if anyone knows where I can get *just* the cap, instead
of having the replace the entire year or two old 5-gallon gas
can every time one of these caps breaks, that would be helfpul:

https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3894/1...38b485eb_b.jpg

I never use the spout, as I siphon the gasoline out, so, I have
no need for anything other than a one-piece cap, if I could find it.




http://ezpourspout.com/



YUP. You can buy them at many stores. In some states they are sold as
"water container only" items (NY being one) BUT the only difference
between the "water" spout and the "gas/kero" spouts is color...

Tractor Supply sells them and I have about 6 hanging in the shop. Just
in case they are suddenly shut down.

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AMuzi wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:59:42 -0500:

http://ezpourspout.com/


I apologize for not making my key point clear.

To my knowledge, NOBODY sells just the bung cap, at least,
not for the purpose of sealing a portable gasoline container.

The advantage of a bung cap (for lack of a better name), is
that it would seal as well as the god-awful contraptions you
pointed to, but it would be nice and simple and not break
like this all the time:
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5559/1...47f6daf7_b.jpg

Someone suggested we kluge together a cap from separate
components, but, really, there's no reason the cap shouldn't
simply be a single molded piece of plastic, with maybe only
one second part, which would be the rubber gasket.

I'm looking for a cap ... sort of like this:
http://www.oatey.com/img/sku/093432.jpg

Only the best will be able to find it on the net because
the *threads* for a gas can are ... um ... what?


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Steve W. wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:40:09 -0400:

YUP. You can buy them at many stores. In some states they are sold as
"water container only" items (NY being one) BUT the only difference
between the "water" spout and the "gas/kero" spouts is color...

Tractor Supply sells them and I have about 6 hanging in the shop. Just
in case they are suddenly shut down.


If you can buy a cap like this at many stores, why can't I find one?
http://www.oatey.com/img/sku/093432.jpg
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On 9/12/2014 1:10 PM, Danny D. wrote:
Steve W. wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:40:09 -0400:

YUP. You can buy them at many stores. In some states they are sold as
"water container only" items (NY being one) BUT the only difference
between the "water" spout and the "gas/kero" spouts is color...

Tractor Supply sells them and I have about 6 hanging in the shop. Just
in case they are suddenly shut down.


If you can buy a cap like this at many stores, why can't I find one?
http://www.oatey.com/img/sku/093432.jpg


On the page I linked earlier:

http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...ase-cap-black/

comes in colors too!

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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:10:11 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
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Only the best will be able to find it on the net because
the *threads* for a gas can are ... um ... what?


Threads are either fine or course. There were many molds made for
various manufacturers. Good luck.
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Per Danny D.:
To my knowledge, NOBODY sells just the bung cap, at least,
not for the purpose of sealing a portable gasoline container.


aMuzi had my hopes up with
http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...ase-cap-black/, but
the description seems to say it won't fit most cans:
"Black cap is fine thread and typically fits older Briggs and Stratton,
Rubbermaid, essence, and Gott cans."

i.e. there's nothing even remotely "fine" about the thread on my
jammed-up Scepter can.
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On 09/12/14 02:41 pm, AMuzi wrote:

YUP. You can buy them at many stores. In some states they are sold as
"water container only" items (NY being one) BUT the only difference
between the "water" spout and the "gas/kero" spouts is color...

Tractor Supply sells them and I have about 6 hanging in the shop. Just
in case they are suddenly shut down.


If you can buy a cap like this at many stores, why can't I find one?
http://www.oatey.com/img/sku/093432.jpg


On the page I linked earlier:

http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...ase-cap-black/

comes in colors too!


I have one of these

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=17070506


that I bought at Lowe's for less money, but they don't seem to sell them
now. Works fine. If the tip is in the mouth of the gas tank -- as it has
to be if the black plastic thingy is to rest on the edge of the opening
to keep the spout open -- how do you manage to spill the gas?

new != bad

Perce


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Per (PeteCresswell):
aMuzi had my hopes up with
http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...ase-cap-black/, but
the description seems to say it won't fit most cans:
"Black cap is fine thread and typically fits older Briggs and Stratton,
Rubbermaid, essence, and Gott cans."

i.e. there's nothing even remotely "fine" about the thread on my
jammed-up Scepter can.


Mea Culpa: more careful reading of the parent page reveals that
different color caps fit different threads. For Scepter, they have a
yellow cap:
http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...se-cap-yellow/
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On 9/12/2014 2:11 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Danny D.:
To my knowledge, NOBODY sells just the bung cap, at least,
not for the purpose of sealing a portable gasoline container.


aMuzi had my hopes up with
http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...ase-cap-black/, but
the description seems to say it won't fit most cans:
"Black cap is fine thread and typically fits older Briggs and Stratton,
Rubbermaid, essence, and Gott cans."

i.e. there's nothing even remotely "fine" about the thread on my
jammed-up Scepter can.


There are also grey, yellow, red to cover whichever of the
various formats you may require.

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AMuzi wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:41:06 -0500:

On the page I linked earlier:

http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...ase-cap-black/


Oooooooh. Nice. I wonder if it fits the Blitz threads...
http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...ase-cap-black/

With that link, I also found these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Gas-Can-...-/181165742710
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-HEAVY-DUT...-/140934151998
http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nk...d=140971311595

I wonder if they will ship to California?


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Percival P. Cassidy wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:11:32 -0400:

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=17070506


that I bought at Lowe's for less money, but they don't seem to sell them
now. Works fine. If the tip is in the mouth of the gas tank


I understand that the spout fits upside down into the gas can,
which gets it out of the way when you shut your trunk, so, that's
good.

Still, it's a multiple-piece item, which simply needs to be a one-piece
gas cap. In fact, I just bought this contraption, in effect, because
it came with the new gas can I bought from Lowes yesterday:
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3868/1...2b1332bd_b.jpg

But, I think I'm going to buy a few of the one-piece gas caps,
and I'll finally have the ultimate solution for storage, filling,
transportation, and emptying.
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Oren wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:56:39 -0700:

Threads are either fine or course. There were many molds made for
various manufacturers. Good luck.


From my conversations with the various companies, Blitz had
their own molds for gas cans and many other types of cans.

When Blitz folded, due to the unrelated lawsuits to the issue
we are discussing, they sold all molds but the gas can mold.

I was told nobody wanted to touch the gas cans, because of
the pending liability.


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(PeteCresswell) wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:11:19 -0400:

aMuzi had my hopes up with
http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...ase-cap-black/, but
the description seems to say it won't fit most cans:
"Black cap is fine thread and typically fits older Briggs and Stratton,
Rubbermaid, essence, and Gott cans."

i.e. there's nothing even remotely "fine" about the thread on my
jammed-up Scepter can.


Thanks for finding that.
It seems that a plain old one-piece gas cap *does* exist, which I hadn't
known at the time I opened this thread.

I don't know if they'll ship to California, but, if they do, I can buy
a few and see if they fit my ten Blitz gas cans.
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3892/1...7df1c083_b.jpg

I have to agree with you on the "fine" characterization though.

No gas can has a "fine" thread; but why they even have different
threads is beyond me.

Maybe it's a legal issue?
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(PeteCresswell) wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:23:57 -0400:

Mea Culpa: more careful reading of the parent page reveals that
different color caps fit different threads. For Scepter, they have a
yellow cap:
http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...se-cap-yellow/


I'm not at all worried about the color of the cap; but what I loved
to see was the word "Blitz" in that description!

"Solid base cap Yellow, solid cap for tank storage or transportation,
Yellow cap is coarse thread and typically fits Blitz, Midwest,
Scepter and our Chilton adapter and our Jerry can adapter."

It's in their FAQ also:
http://ezpourspout.com/faq-2/faq/


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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:04:30 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
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I wonder if they will ship to California?


Not if they hate you. If you live in one of the following states:
CALIFORNIA, CONNECTICUT, WASHINGTON D.C., DELAWARE, MAINE, MARYLAND,
MASSACHUSETTS, NEW HAMPSHIRE, NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, OHIO, or VIRGINIA…

Maybe you can buy a cap, though?
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Danny D. wrote:
Steve W. wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:40:09 -0400:

YUP. You can buy them at many stores. In some states they are sold as
"water container only" items (NY being one) BUT the only difference
between the "water" spout and the "gas/kero" spouts is color...

Tractor Supply sells them and I have about 6 hanging in the shop. Just
in case they are suddenly shut down.


If you can buy a cap like this at many stores, why can't I find one?
http://www.oatey.com/img/sku/093432.jpg



They make solid "storage" caps.

http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...se-cap-yellow/
Fit's the blitz cans I have just fine.

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Danny D. wrote:
(PeteCresswell) wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:11:19 -0400:

aMuzi had my hopes up with
http://ezpourspout.com/ez-pour-produ...ase-cap-black/, but
the description seems to say it won't fit most cans:
"Black cap is fine thread and typically fits older Briggs and Stratton,
Rubbermaid, essence, and Gott cans."

i.e. there's nothing even remotely "fine" about the thread on my
jammed-up Scepter can.


Thanks for finding that.
It seems that a plain old one-piece gas cap *does* exist, which I hadn't
known at the time I opened this thread.

I don't know if they'll ship to California, but, if they do, I can buy
a few and see if they fit my ten Blitz gas cans.
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3892/1...7df1c083_b.jpg

I have to agree with you on the "fine" characterization though.

No gas can has a "fine" thread; but why they even have different
threads is beyond me.

Maybe it's a legal issue?


Patent and liability.
User "adapts" a spout from a different maker, spout leaks and causes
damage to whatever. Maker of can can say, Not our problem, you used XYZ
threads and they didn't seal. If you had used ours this wouldn't happen.


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Today, I drive down to Costco, to fill my trunk with 50 gallons of gas:
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3892/1...7df1c083_b.jpg


What is that, about $300-400 in gas jugs?
What's wrong with drums and a pump?
I don't get it.
A 5-gal gas jug is always clumsy.
I have one, and use it only to fill my 2 1/2 and 1 gal jugs.
If I commonly dealt with more than 5 gals I'd arrange for bigger tanks
and a transfer system.
Just the thought of filling 10 cans at a gas station is something I
don't want to entertain.

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Vic Smith wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:32:06 -0500:

What is that, about $300-400 in gas jugs?
What's wrong with drums and a pump?
I don't get it.


It's not done for cost reasons, although, in the long terms, the
cans do eventually pay for themselves, but that was never the intent.

It's done for convenience.
The wife *never* has to put gas in her car, since I do it for her.

Yet, the wife *hates* when I drive her car, so, I came up with a
method to fill her car while she sleeps.

A 5-gal gas jug is always clumsy.


At some point, I'm going to add a set of 50-gallon drums and
a pump, but that's for the future.

If I commonly dealt with more than 5 gals I'd arrange for bigger tanks
and a transfer system.

Yep. Best would be if the fuel could be delivered by a truck.

Just the thought of filling 10 cans at a gas station is something I
don't want to entertain.

It doesn't bother me one bit, but, people at the gas station often
ask me if I'm preparing for Armageddon?

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"Danny D." writes:

Vic Smith wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:32:06 -0500:

What is that, about $300-400 in gas jugs?
What's wrong with drums and a pump?
I don't get it.


It's not done for cost reasons, although, in the long terms, the
cans do eventually pay for themselves, but that was never the intent.

It's done for convenience.
The wife *never* has to put gas in her car, since I do it for her.

Yet, the wife *hates* when I drive her car, so, I came up with a
method to fill her car while she sleeps.


Ah, so that's why you don't drive the car to the station.

Do you really think she'd just get in the car and drive it until
empty and die on the spot?

Men do crazy things for women, but this is a new one on me.

You need some home repair, but it doesn't have anything to do
with bulk transport of gasoline. But I'm guessing you wont listen.
Hope it's worth it. When you were servicing the pretty neighbor lady
I got confused.

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Dan Espen wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:58:59 -0400:

You need some home repair, but it doesn't have anything to do
with bulk transport of gasoline. But I'm guessing you wont listen.
Hope it's worth it. When you were servicing the pretty neighbor lady
I got confused.


I service *any* pretty lady I can, especially the wife, who cooks
like a dream come true!
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Vic Smith wrote:

What's wrong with drums and a pump?


A 55 gallon drum full of gasoline is, what, a little under 400 pounds. It
would be tough to get into the trunk. Or out.


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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:32:06 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:58:00 +0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

Today, I drive down to Costco, to fill my trunk with 50 gallons of gas:
https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3892/1...7df1c083_b.jpg


What is that, about $300-400 in gas jugs?
What's wrong with drums and a pump?
I don't get it.
A 5-gal gas jug is always clumsy.
I have one, and use it only to fill my 2 1/2 and 1 gal jugs.
If I commonly dealt with more than 5 gals I'd arrange for bigger tanks
and a transfer system.
Just the thought of filling 10 cans at a gas station is something I
don't want to entertain.


The thought of trying to move or carry a 50 gallon drum is not that
attractive to me either. How do you get it in and out of your truck?


That's what the transfer pump is for. There's all kinds of pumps and
gas caddy's and tanks that fit in the trunk (and can be pumped out
from there) to suit your needs.
http://tinyurl.com/pchd5ms
The drum is meant for Danny's garage. An empty drum is light.
He wants to refuel his wife' car from his home.
Lots of ways to not have 10 5-gallon cans doing that.


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On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:15:45 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:57:59 -0500, Vic Smith
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:20:55 -0400,
wrote:

The thought of trying to move or carry a 50 gallon drum is not that
attractive to me either. How do you get it in and out of your truck?


That's what the transfer pump is for. There's all kinds of pumps and
gas caddy's and tanks that fit in the trunk (and can be pumped out
from there) to suit your needs.
http://tinyurl.com/pchd5ms
The drum is meant for Danny's garage. An empty drum is light.
He wants to refuel his wife' car from his home.
Lots of ways to not have 10 5-gallon cans doing that.


So now we have 2 55 gallon drums and I am pumping gas between them.

Since I am using the gas in my boat, I still have to transfer it again
into something I can carry or have a 35-40 foot fueling hose. (a tank
like this has to be 25 feet from the water)
I would also have the problem of this tank collecting water over time
stale gas etc.. Since I am filling and emptying my jerry cans
regularly, condensation is not an issue.


Who is "we"? You fueling your wife's car at home?
I don't care if you fuel your boat using 5-gallon jugs.



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On 9/12/2014 8:58 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
"Danny D." writes:
It's done for convenience.
The wife *never* has to put gas in her car, since I do it for her.

Yet, the wife *hates* when I drive her car, so, I came up with a
method to fill her car while she sleeps.


Ah, so that's why you don't drive the car to the station.

Do you really think she'd just get in the car and drive it until
empty and die on the spot?

Men do crazy things for women, but this is a new one on me.


I've heard of other guys using portable cans to
keep wife's car gassed up. Remember, this is the
same Danny D who was going to set up as a water
hauler for his neighborhood.


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On 9/12/14, 11:09 PM, rbowman wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:

What's wrong with drums and a pump?


A 55 gallon drum full of gasoline is, what, a little under 400 pounds. It
would be tough to get into the trunk. Or out.

My uncle used to keep a 250-gallon tank of ag gas for his Poppin'
Johnnies. It was on the highway, 100 yards up the road from the house.
Delivery charges must have been reasonable because he had a big pickup
and a flatbed and could easily have rigged a hoist. I'm sure companies
still deliver ag gas, and they probably deliver road gas.
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gfretwell wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 23:20:55 -0400:

The thought of trying to move or carry a 50 gallon drum is not that
attractive to me either. How do you get it in and out of your truck?


I wasn't clear.
The drum is bought new, and transported empty.
Once in place on the concrete pan, it is filled from a delivery truck.

The problem, of course, is getting a truck to delivery 50 gallons of
gas which is a puny amount for them.

The other option, of course, is to just empty the ten 5-gallon
portable gas cans into the 50-gallon drums, so that the wife can
fill the car from the electric pump on the 50-gallon drums.

That would be slightly easier than me siphoning the gas, which is
what I do now (which is pretty easy so the electric pump isn't all
that much an improvement on the process).


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Vic Smith wrote, on Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:57:59 -0500:

The drum is meant for Danny's garage. An empty drum is light.
He wants to refuel his wife' car from his home.


Exactly.
The wife can then fill her own car, but without having to drive
to a gas station.
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Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sat, 13 Sep 2014 09:04:21 -0400:

I've heard of other guys using portable cans to
keep wife's car gassed up. Remember, this is the
same Danny D who was going to set up as a water
hauler for his neighborhood.


The neighbors solved their water problem with a new well.

Our *new* community problem is that the darn county is
ripping up all the blue reflectors we had carefully epoxied
into the middle of the road on the more dangerous curves, so
that non-resident cars would stay to the side on blind curves.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5585/1...20b338aa_z.jpg

Note: The road is too narrow for a center stripe so they
won't paint it. (I also removed the names of the people
in the pink slip of paper in this photo.)

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Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sat, 13 Sep 2014 09:04:21 -0400:

I've heard of other guys using portable cans to
keep wife's car gassed up. Remember, this is the
same Danny D who was going to set up as a water
hauler for his neighborhood.


The neighbors solved their water problem with a new well.

Our *new* community problem is that the darn county is
ripping up all the blue reflectors we had carefully epoxied
into the middle of the road on the more dangerous curves, so
that non-resident cars would stay to the side on blind curves.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5585/1...20b338aa_z.jpg

Note: The road is too narrow for a center stripe so they
won't paint it. (I also removed the names of the people
in the pink slip of paper in this photo.)


You dope! Those blue reflectors are to indicate the location of a fire
hydrant. No wonder the county is ripping them up.


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On 2014-09-14, Pico Rico wrote:

"Danny D." wrote in message
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Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sat, 13 Sep 2014 09:04:21 -0400:

I've heard of other guys using portable cans to
keep wife's car gassed up. Remember, this is the
same Danny D who was going to set up as a water
hauler for his neighborhood.


The neighbors solved their water problem with a new well.

Our *new* community problem is that the darn county is
ripping up all the blue reflectors we had carefully epoxied
into the middle of the road on the more dangerous curves, so
that non-resident cars would stay to the side on blind curves.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5585/1...20b338aa_z.jpg

Note: The road is too narrow for a center stripe so they
won't paint it. (I also removed the names of the people
in the pink slip of paper in this photo.)


You dope! Those blue reflectors are to indicate the location of a fire
hydrant. No wonder the county is ripping them up.


Blue is the wrong color but they would get ripped up regardless of
color. Government does like this sort of action by regular people even
when everything is done perfectly.





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On 2014-09-14, Pico Rico wrote:

"Danny D." wrote in message
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Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sat, 13 Sep 2014 09:04:21 -0400:

I've heard of other guys using portable cans to
keep wife's car gassed up. Remember, this is the
same Danny D who was going to set up as a water
hauler for his neighborhood.

The neighbors solved their water problem with a new well.

Our *new* community problem is that the darn county is
ripping up all the blue reflectors we had carefully epoxied
into the middle of the road on the more dangerous curves, so
that non-resident cars would stay to the side on blind curves.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5585/1...20b338aa_z.jpg

Note: The road is too narrow for a center stripe so they
won't paint it. (I also removed the names of the people
in the pink slip of paper in this photo.)


You dope! Those blue reflectors are to indicate the location of a fire
hydrant. No wonder the county is ripping them up.


Blue is the wrong color but they would get ripped up regardless of
color. Government does like this sort of action by regular people even
when everything is done perfectly.


Government is also lazy. They might not remove other colors, but blue could
cause firefighters to waste precious time looking for nonexistent hydrants.


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On 2014-09-14, Pico Rico wrote:

"Brent" wrote in message
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On 2014-09-14, Pico Rico wrote:

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Stormin Mormon wrote, on Sat, 13 Sep 2014 09:04:21 -0400:

I've heard of other guys using portable cans to
keep wife's car gassed up. Remember, this is the
same Danny D who was going to set up as a water
hauler for his neighborhood.

The neighbors solved their water problem with a new well.

Our *new* community problem is that the darn county is
ripping up all the blue reflectors we had carefully epoxied
into the middle of the road on the more dangerous curves, so
that non-resident cars would stay to the side on blind curves.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5585/1...20b338aa_z.jpg

Note: The road is too narrow for a center stripe so they
won't paint it. (I also removed the names of the people
in the pink slip of paper in this photo.)


You dope! Those blue reflectors are to indicate the location of a fire
hydrant. No wonder the county is ripping them up.


Blue is the wrong color but they would get ripped up regardless of
color. Government does like this sort of action by regular people even
when everything is done perfectly.


Government is also lazy. They might not remove other colors, but blue could
cause firefighters to waste precious time looking for nonexistent hydrants.


They aren't lazy about this sort of thing. It's like union work. You
better call in the electrician to change a light bulb or else.


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On 9/13/2014 9:14 PM, Danny D. wrote:
Our *new* community problem is that the darn county is
ripping up all the blue reflectors we had carefully epoxied
into the middle of the road on the more dangerous curves, so
that non-resident cars would stay to the side on blind curves.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5585/1...20b338aa_z.jpg

Note: The road is too narrow for a center stripe so they
won't paint it. (I also removed the names of the people
in the pink slip of paper in this photo.)


Wow, you do some good, and the county comes along
and rips up the reflectors. That sounds like a
bad place to live.

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On 9/13/2014 11:48 PM, Pico Rico wrote:
"Danny D." wrote in message
Our *new* community problem is that the darn county is
ripping up all the blue reflectors we had carefully epoxied
into the middle of the road on the more dangerous curves, so
that non-resident cars would stay to the side on blind curves.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5585/1...20b338aa_z.jpg


You dope! Those blue reflectors are to indicate the location of a fire
hydrant. No wonder the county is ripping them up.


Some thing new every day. Maybe if they used
yellow reflectors, it would be acceptable?


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gfretwell wrote, on Sat, 13 Sep 2014 21:48:58 -0400:

Why is the gas station such a problem for her?


Truth be told, she has a friend whose husband fills her car for
her, at the gas station, all the time, and that has been going
on for years (probably their whole married lives).

She complained to me, at one point, a few years ago, that I
never fill her car for her. So, I took the car and filled it,
and she complained that I moved the seat and mirrors. So, I
took the car and filled it (at night) and she didn't like
the fact that I took her car.

Does it make sense? No.
Is it what she wants. Yep.

Add to the fact we live nowhere near a gas station, where the
nearest one is probably 15 miles away and it's not a cheapie,
and then add that we're retired, and the kids don't live with
us anymore - so we don't get out all that often anymore, and
that means we have to actually go to a gas station as a
specific chore.

Anyway, in the interest of marriage harmony, I came up with an
easy solution to the problem. I calculated that she uses about
five gallons a week, so, at first, I bought a handful of gas
cans to cover a month or so.

But they kept bouncing around in the trunk, causing smelly spills,
so, I hit upon the idea of ten fitting exactly in the trunk.

So, that's the reason for ten. That's 50 gallons. That lasts her
about ten weeks. Every Sunday, I throw a towel on the roof of
her car, pop open the 5-gallon can, stick a clean siphone hose
in, suck to the black line I've marked, and shove it into the
fuel filler inlet. I come back about five minutes later, and
empty the remainder into the car using a long stem funnel.

It's quick. Easy. Clean. And, best of all, her gas tank is
perpetually filled. Wouldn't *you* want your gas tank to always
be full?

Anyway, as for the cost, the gas cans, for what crap they are,
are horrendously expensive, about $25 each or so, with tax.

So, that's roughly about $250 in investment. Since I get gas at
Costco (where the discount on Amex is something like 3 cents on
the dollar, or about 12 cents on the gallon) or Safeway (where
the discount on cash with the club card is something like 10 to
30 cents on the gallon up to 25 gallons), let's figure that I
save, roughly 10 cents on a gallon over what she'd be paying
(since she just would go to the nearest gas station).

At 10 cents a gallon, and 50 gallons a fill, that's about
five dollars saved per fill. Problem is that $250/$5 is a
big number, so, I can never say that I'm doing it for the
money - but - longer term - after about 50 fills, the cans
have paid for themselves. Sort of.

The problem, of course, is that those stinkin' nozzles break
all the time. I've returned probably five or six while Blitz
was still in business, and now I've had to replace two more
after Blitz went bankrupt.

So, I'm really looking forward to spending another $2.50
or so per gas can to get rid of those idiotically designed
nozzles (which I never use anyway).

The nozzles are bad in every sense of the word:
- They take three hands to hold and press and pour;
- Your arms will fall off with the weight of 5 gallons anyway;
- The nozzles end up breaking all the time!
- Worst yet, they prevent the trunk from closing properly.

A bung-hole cap will solve *all* those problems, and, it would
still satisfy (I think) the EPA/CARB because their only goal
is to keep the gasoline *inside* the can, which it would do
just fine.
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