Upgrade your toilet to a no-touch flush. This easy-to-install retrofit
kit brings a KOHLER touchless flush to almost any toilet.
Once it's installed, just hold your hand over the tank sensor to
activate the flush. No handle to touch means fewer germs to pick up or
leave behind.
Touchless module projects an electromagnetic field through the top of
the tank lid that senses your hand, causing the toilet to flush.

$100.00.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/catalog/...uctNumber=1954

On Tue, 06 May 2014 11:01:49 -0500, Moe DeLoughan
wrote:

$100.00.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/catalog/...uctNumber=1954

No. Not for $100.00

Moe DeLoughan writes:

Upgrade your toilet to a no-touch flush. This easy-to-install retrofit
kit brings a KOHLER touchless flush to almost any toilet.
Once it's installed, just hold your hand over the tank sensor to
activate the flush. No handle to touch means fewer germs to pick up or
leave behind.
Touchless module projects an electromagnetic field through the top of
the tank lid that senses your hand, causing the toilet to flush.

$100.00.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/catalog/...uctNumber=1954

No way, I wouldn't buy it.

Germs are all around us. We couldn't live without them.
Fear of germs is a mental illness. Don't set out on the
path of trying to live in a sterile environment, it's
not good for you.

--
Dan Espen

On 05/06/2014 12:01 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
Upgrade your toilet to a no-touch flush. This easy-to-install retrofit
kit brings a KOHLER touchless flush to almost any toilet.
Once it's installed, just hold your hand over the tank sensor to
activate the flush. No handle to touch means fewer germs to pick up or
leave behind.


No. When I run out of toilet paper, I wipe with one hand and flush with
the other.

On 5/6/2014 1:54 PM, Buster Hymen wrote:
On 05/06/2014 12:01 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
Upgrade your toilet to a no-touch flush. This easy-to-install retrofit
kit brings a KOHLER touchless flush to almost any toilet.
Once it's installed, just hold your hand over the tank sensor to
activate the flush. No handle to touch means fewer germs to pick up or
leave behind.


No. When I run out of toilet paper, I wipe with one hand and flush with
the other.


My wife bought a toilet brush. It works OK, but I'm sticking with paper.

On Tue, 06 May 2014 11:01:49 -0500, Moe DeLoughan wrote:

$100.00.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/catalog/...uctNumber=1954

How often does one have to replace the batteries? There will be a constant
drain on them. Lithium ion batteries are not allowed. Exposing them to
water can result in a fire.

And I can see cleaning the tank top causing an unnecessary flush.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On 05/06/2014 02:29 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 5/6/2014 1:54 PM, Buster Hymen wrote:
On 05/06/2014 12:01 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
Upgrade your toilet to a no-touch flush. This easy-to-install retrofit
kit brings a KOHLER touchless flush to almost any toilet.
Once it's installed, just hold your hand over the tank sensor to
activate the flush. No handle to touch means fewer germs to pick up or
leave behind.


No. When I run out of toilet paper, I wipe with one hand and flush with
the other.


My wife bought a toilet brush. It works OK, but I'm sticking with paper.


A 1/2 inch copper fitting brush works too:

http://smile.amazon.com/Forney-70471.../dp/B003YDLXQK

On Tue, 06 May 2014 14:34:46 -0400, Don Wiss
wrote:

On Tue, 06 May 2014 11:01:49 -0500, Moe DeLoughan wrote:

$100.00.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/catalog/...uctNumber=1954

How often does one have to replace the batteries? There will be a constant
drain on them. Lithium ion batteries are not allowed. Exposing them to
water can result in a fire.

And I can see cleaning the tank top causing an unnecessary flush.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

It's just a waste of money, to cause problems.
If you're concerned about germs, use a piece of toilet paper on the
handle.

On Tue, 06 May 2014 14:29:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

My wife bought a toilet brush. It works OK, but I'm sticking with paper.

True Story time

Time for a ~450# prisoner to get his shower, 5 officers escort him to
the shower cell due his previous violence and assault on officers.

One officer hands a rookie a toilet brush and instructs him to scrub
the inmate's ass.

Oh the memories.

On 05/06/2014 12:20 PM, Dan.Espen wrote:
Moe DeLoughan writes:

Upgrade your toilet to a no-touch flush. This easy-to-install retrofit
kit brings a KOHLER touchless flush to almost any toilet.
Once it's installed, just hold your hand over the tank sensor to
activate the flush. No handle to touch means fewer germs to pick up or
leave behind.
Touchless module projects an electromagnetic field through the top of
the tank lid that senses your hand, causing the toilet to flush.

$100.00.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/catalog/...uctNumber=1954

No way, I wouldn't buy it.

Germs are all around us. We couldn't live without them.
Fear of germs is a mental illness. Don't set out on the
path of trying to live in a sterile environment, it's
not good for you.




Now if there was an electronic ass wiper...


I'm not going to Google but I am sure there is one.

On Tue, 06 May 2014 14:19:39 -0500, philo* wrote:

Now if there was an electronic ass wiper...


I'm not going to Google but I am sure there is one.

Don't be so bashful...

http://www.wastesomecash.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/l/electric-toilet-paper.jpg

On 05/06/2014 11:50 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

If you're concerned about germs, use a piece of toilet paper on the
handle.

I just use my foot.

Jon

Vic Smith writes:
On Tue, 06 May 2014 14:34:46 -0400, Don Wiss
wrote:

On Tue, 06 May 2014 11:01:49 -0500, Moe DeLoughan wrote:

$100.00.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/catalog/...uctNumber=1954

How often does one have to replace the batteries? There will be a constant
drain on them. Lithium ion batteries are not allowed. Exposing them to
water can result in a fire.

And I can see cleaning the tank top causing an unnecessary flush.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

It's just a waste of money, to cause problems.
If you're concerned about germs, use a piece of toilet paper on the
handle.

Or just wash your hands after you flush.

On 5/6/2014 12:01 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
Upgrade your toilet to a no-touch flush. This easy-to-install retrofit
kit brings a KOHLER touchless flush to almost any toilet.
Once it's installed, just hold your hand over the tank sensor to
activate the flush. No handle to touch means fewer germs to pick up or
leave behind.
Touchless module projects an electromagnetic field through the top of
the tank lid that senses your hand, causing the toilet to flush.

$100.00.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/catalog/...uctNumber=1954


No! I use the tank lid for storage. And besides, I was planning on
washing my hands anyhow.

The photo doesn't show a flush handle. Does that get removed? And then
you install this and hope that clueless guests can figure it out?

BTW, it's $75 on the HD site and no reviews.

Seems like a gimick to me. Why would someone want a "touchless" toilet flushing system when the trip lever has served us well for decades now?

Besides, modern medicine seems to be telling us that too sterile an environment is unhealthy. Nowadays children grow up in homes with electronic air cleaners on the furnace that take all the allergens out of the air they breathe, and the result is often that the children develop allergies. It's the children that grow up on farms that are exposed to mold spores and bacteria from cow dung and such that build immunities to those things early in life that protects them from developing allergies.

Think of it this way... after billions of dollars spent on research, the only thing scientists have found that actually helps prevent heart disease is a good stiff shot of alcohol every now and then. Go figure.

On Tue, 06 May 2014, Lee B wrote:

No! I use the tank lid for storage.

A good place for a box of tissues.

And besides, I was planning on
washing my hands anyhow.

Of course.

The photo doesn't show a flush handle. Does that get removed? And then
you install this and hope that clueless guests can figure it out?

I looked at the installtion. They give you a cap to plug the hole where the
flush handle was. And you put a sticker with a picture of a waving hand
over the spot on the tank lid where the sensor is underneath.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On Tue, 06 May 2014 22:27:05 -0400, Don Wiss
wrote:

I looked at the installtion. They give you a cap to plug the hole where the
flush handle was. And you put a sticker with a picture of a waving hand
over the spot on the tank lid where the sensor is underneath.

How does that work for visually impaired folks, accustomed to a flush
handle?

On 05/06/2014 09:43 PM, nestork wrote:
Think of it this way... after billions of dollars spent on research, the
only thing scientists have found that actually helps prevent heart
disease is a good stiff shot of alcohol every now and then. Go figure.

And I'll bet that 'research' was funded by the American Booze and Liquor
Council

On 5/6/2014 10:27 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Tue, 06 May 2014, Lee B wrote:

No! I use the tank lid for storage.

A good place for a box of tissues.

And besides, I was planning on
washing my hands anyhow.

Of course.

The photo doesn't show a flush handle. Does that get removed? And then
you install this and hope that clueless guests can figure it out?

I looked at the installtion. They give you a cap to plug the hole where the
flush handle was. And you put a sticker with a picture of a waving hand
over the spot on the tank lid where the sensor is underneath.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

I saw the sticker, but for someone not expecting this "accessory", I
don't think it would be too obvious what it meant. (Not look like it
says "wave here to flush"). Can you imagine after a party, when some of
the inebriated folks are trying to figure it out!

I'm having a hard time figuring why I'd want/need this, but touchless is
obviously in, for example hands free soap dispensers and spigots. OK,
having said that, I can think of some germophobic people who would buy it.

On 5/6/2014 2:50 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 06 May 2014 14:34:46 -0400, Don Wiss
wrote:

On Tue, 06 May 2014 11:01:49 -0500, Moe DeLoughan wrote:

$100.00.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/catalog/...uctNumber=1954

How often does one have to replace the batteries? There will be a constant
drain on them. Lithium ion batteries are not allowed. Exposing them to
water can result in a fire.

And I can see cleaning the tank top causing an unnecessary flush.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

It's just a waste of money, to cause problems.
If you're concerned about germs, use a piece of toilet paper on the
handle.

Or just spray it with Lysol regularly.


--
Steven L.

On 05/06/2014 07:27 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Tue, 06 May 2014, Lee B wrote:

No! I use the tank lid for storage.

A good place for a box of tissues.

A bathroom is a rather unhygienic location, due to the fine mist that is
generated whenever the toilet is flushed. A box of tissues on top of
the tank is going to collect such a mist, and the things contained in
that mist are probably things you don't want to wipe on your face.

Jon

On Wed, 07 May 2014 06:23:56 -0700, Jon Danniken
wrote:

On 05/06/2014 07:27 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Tue, 06 May 2014, Lee B wrote:

No! I use the tank lid for storage.

A good place for a box of tissues.

A bathroom is a rather unhygienic location, due to the fine mist that is
generated whenever the toilet is flushed. A box of tissues on top of
the tank is going to collect such a mist, and the things contained in
that mist are probably things you don't want to wipe on your face.

Jon



finally! It's best to 'control' a flush, as in 'ease' the toilet during
the first emptying of contents, then add bleach and then can flush. People
don't realize that most toilets spray/splatter their contents into the rom
when there is a flush.

To prove to yourself just how bad, place a tissue paper on the seat and
flush, note the small water marks on the issue. Newer toilets seem to be a
bit better, but the older ones just throw the contents out during a flush.

On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:43:33 PM UTC-7, nestork wrote:
Seems like a gimick to me. Why would someone want a "touchless" toilet
flushing system when the trip lever has served us well for decades now?

I'd try one if the price was reasonable. I can't break my wife from holding onto the trip lever until the flush is done. Then when she lets go, the ball doesn't seal. 20 years of yelling at her hasn't cured the problem. I've even threatened to put a 1/4 turn valve on it so she'll only get one flush until I reset it.

Harry K

On Wed, 7 May 2014 14:16:10 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:

I can't break my wife from holding onto the trip lever until the flush is done. Then when she lets go, the ball doesn't seal. 20 years of yelling at her hasn't cured the problem. I've even threatened to put a 1/4 turn valve on it so she'll only get one flush until I reset it.

Wow. That makes of my wife training problems seem trivial

Oren posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On Tue, 06 May 2014 14:29:08 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

My wife bought a toilet brush. It works OK, but I'm sticking with paper.

True Story time

Time for a ~450# prisoner to get his shower, 5 officers escort him to
the shower cell due his previous violence and assault on officers.

One officer hands a rookie a toilet brush and instructs him to scrub
the inmate's ass.

Oh the memories.

My mind has already been scarred. That's what rookies are for; that and
"cavity searches"

--
Tekkie

Don Wiss posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On Tue, 06 May 2014 11:01:49 -0500, Moe DeLoughan wrote:

$100.00.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/catalog/...uctNumber=1954

How often does one have to replace the batteries? There will be a constant
drain on them. Lithium ion batteries are not allowed. Exposing them to
water can result in a fire.

And I can see cleaning the tank top causing an unnecessary flush.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

besides where is the reading material stored?

--
Tekkie

On Thu, 8 May 2014 21:42:54 -0400, Tekkie® wrote:

Time for a ~450# prisoner to get his shower, 5 officers escort him to
the shower cell due his previous violence and assault on officers.

One officer hands a rookie a toilet brush and instructs him to scrub
the inmate's ass.

Oh the memories.

My mind has already been scarred. That's what rookies are for; that and
"cavity searches"

Don't confuse a cavity search with a digital intrusion - essentially
the same, but paper work reads differently.

philo* wrote in :

On 05/06/2014 12:20 PM, Dan.Espen wrote:
Moe DeLoughan writes:

Upgrade your toilet to a no-touch flush. This easy-to-install
retrofit kit brings a KOHLER touchless flush to almost any toilet.
Once it's installed, just hold your hand over the tank sensor to
activate the flush. No handle to touch means fewer germs to pick up
or leave behind.
Touchless module projects an electromagnetic field through the top
of the tank lid that senses your hand, causing the toilet to flush.

$100.00.

http://www.us.kohler.com/us/catalog/...productNumber=
1954

No way, I wouldn't buy it.

Germs are all around us. We couldn't live without them.
Fear of germs is a mental illness. Don't set out on the
path of trying to live in a sterile environment, it's
not good for you.




Now if there was an electronic ass wiper...


I'm not going to Google but I am sure there is one.

With all the human asswipes around who needs an electronic one?