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I just saw this ad:
http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On 03/31/2014 07:42 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? X No, they do not work. Dry cells are a non-reversable chemical process |
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philo wrote:
On 03/31/2014 07:42 AM, Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? X No, they do not work. Dry cells are a non-reversable chemical process Actually, they do work a bit. They battery will act like a newer one for a few minutes. |
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On 03/31/2014 09:59 AM, Bob F wrote:
Dry cells are a non-reversable chemical process Actually, they do work a bit. They battery will act like a newer one for a few minutes. It will also slightly recover simply by not using it for a while. Those chargers are a complete scam |
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Actually there are recharable alkaline cells. I used to have some and
they worked pretty well. I am not sure if they still make them. NiMH are much better. If you try to recharge ordinary alkaline cells it is not worth the effort for the small charge you may get. On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 08:42:48 -0400, Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On 3/31/2014 8:45 AM, philo wrote:
On 03/31/2014 07:42 AM, Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? X No, they do not work. Dry cells are a non-reversable chemical process When i was a kid, my Dad had a charger for dry cells. It put some power back in, but not much. BTW, alkaline cells are not dry. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On 3/31/2014 8:42 AM, Art Todesco wrote:
I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? I've got a Battery Manager Ultra (no longer made) and a Re-Nu (will made) for AA and AAA cells. They both put power back into alkaline cells. Some will leak (maybe 25 to 40% of the cells leak). If a battery is slightly discharged, it freshes up better, and less likely to leak. Cells deeply dis charged more likely to fail and leak. I charge the cells, and put into the plastic holders with paper towels or toilet paper below the cells, wait a week or two. Pitch out the leakers, and check the cells for charge before using. Lot of work for not much benefit. I've not compared first use to recharge. Less, but not sure how much less. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 07:45:36 -0500, philo* wrote:
On 03/31/2014 07:42 AM, Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? X No, they do not work. Dry cells are a non-reversable chemical process Theoretically, and practically, yes. However the rechargers DO get a little bit of extra power out of the batteries because the reaction is not TOTALLY non-reversible. About 25% charge in "real world" - making it really not worth the expense and effort. This is assuming regular alkalines. There ARE rechargeable alkalines that work VERY well. - like "pure energy" and "envirocell". They are only good for about a dozen recharges - but unlike NiCads et al, they hold their charge for years. Their charge efficiency is also better than NiCad and NimH |
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On 03/31/2014 10:48 AM, Ray wrote:
Actually there are recharable alkaline cells. I used to have some and they worked pretty well. I am not sure if they still make them. NiMH are much better. If you try to recharge ordinary alkaline cells it is not worth the effort for the small charge you may get. On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 08:42:48 -0400, Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? The ad for that charger said "any" battery and showed photos of non-rechargeable batteries...that is why I said it's a scam. A battery designed to be recharged is of course OK though |
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On 03/31/2014 12:18 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 3/31/2014 8:45 AM, philo wrote: On 03/31/2014 07:42 AM, Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? X No, they do not work. Dry cells are a non-reversable chemical process When i was a kid, my Dad had a charger for dry cells. It put some power back in, but not much. BTW, alkaline cells are not dry. Though alkaline batteries may be moist inside they are considered dry cells. "Wet" cells have actual liquid inside. |
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philo wrote:
On 03/31/2014 10:48 AM, Ray wrote: Actually there are recharable alkaline cells. I used to have some and they worked pretty well. I am not sure if they still make them. NiMH are much better. If you try to recharge ordinary alkaline cells it is not worth the effort for the small charge you may get. On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 08:42:48 -0400, Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? The ad for that charger said "any" battery and showed photos of non-rechargeable batteries...that is why I said it's a scam. A battery designed to be recharged is of course OK though I don't know how good it is or if it is a scam but last year I had 20 outdoor rechargeable yard lights, some to battery and some four battery all with rechargeable batteries and most were over a year old and dying .. I replaced all of the batteries with non rechargeable energizers and they are still going and have been running every night for a year. I do not know if they are getting a charge like the ones that were in the lights when they were purchased. |
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On 03/31/2014 05:25 PM, JAS wrote:
A battery designed to be recharged is of course OK though I don't know how good it is or if it is a scam but last year I had 20 outdoor rechargeable yard lights, some to battery and some four battery all with rechargeable batteries and most were over a year old and dying . I replaced all of the batteries with non rechargeable energizers and they are still going and have been running every night for a year. I do not know if they are getting a charge like the ones that were in the lights when they were purchased. I've found that standard alkaline batteries have more capacity than many rechargeable batteries ...especially nicads which are only 1.2 volts. I have never tested a rechargeable alkaline battery though. |
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I know there are rechargeable alkaline batteries (developed in Canada).
Rechargeable alkaline battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia However, this ad says that it can discharge ANY battery and even shows a pile of Duracell non-rechargeable batteries if you click on "Specifications" and that's gotta be false. If anyone developed a recharger that would recharge disposable alkaline batteries, it would be big news, and so far I ain't heard nuthin. |
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:39:27 -0500, philo* wrote:
On 03/31/2014 12:18 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 3/31/2014 8:45 AM, philo wrote: On 03/31/2014 07:42 AM, Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? X No, they do not work. Dry cells are a non-reversable chemical process When i was a kid, my Dad had a charger for dry cells. It put some power back in, but not much. BTW, alkaline cells are not dry. Though alkaline batteries may be moist inside they are considered dry cells. "Wet" cells have actual liquid inside. Are rechargeable AA cells wet or dry? |
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 22:24:22 -0400, micky
wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:39:27 -0500, philo* wrote: On 03/31/2014 12:18 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 3/31/2014 8:45 AM, philo wrote: On 03/31/2014 07:42 AM, Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? X No, they do not work. Dry cells are a non-reversable chemical process When i was a kid, my Dad had a charger for dry cells. It put some power back in, but not much. BTW, alkaline cells are not dry. Though alkaline batteries may be moist inside they are considered dry cells. "Wet" cells have actual liquid inside. Are rechargeable AA cells wet or dry? "damp" - technically dry cells. |
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nestork wrote:
I know there are rechargeable alkaline batteries (developed in Canada). 'Rechargeable alkaline battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recharg...kaline_battery) However, this ad says that it can discharge ANY battery and even shows a pile of Duracell non-rechargeable batteries if you click on "Specifications" and that's gotta be false. I've got a piece of wire that can do that. |
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Art Todesco wrote:
I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? http://www.allaboutbatteries.com/Alkaline-charging.html How many times can an ordinary alkaline battery be recharged? Would you believe hundreds of times? The trick is to stop using the battery well before it has given up all of its available stored energy. Note that this is directly opposite to the instructions that were packed with your battery-operated drill or screwdriver with its NiCad batteries. When the drill stops turning, charge the battery, but not before. Good rule for NiCads, but not for alkaline batteries. Assuming you now have a charger to safely charge alkalines, don't wait for the battery to stop working. In order to achieve ten times extension of the normal life of an everyday alkaline battery, you will have to recharge it frequently, many more times than ten. It makes sense to use a second set of batteries for a high drain device. Take out one set of batteries when the device is not being used, and put in the second set that has been recharged. Charge the first set and carry it with you as a backup if necessary. You will be surprised how easily children will be attracted to charging their own batteries in their toys and possessions. Managing their own batteries is fun, and they know it helps the environment by not having to throw batteries away when they can recycle them. Why did it take so long for a good alkaline charger to be developed? There have been many more failures than successes along the road to developing a good charger. Products were announced, and then you didn't see any more of them. The reason is simple -- they didn't work. One came close to working, the Buddy-L SuperCharger, announced in 1993. Popular Science magazine named it as one of the 100 top scientific achievements of the year. But it did not live up to expectations. Apparently, the product was launched into production too quickly, and sub-standard operation resulted. Fortunately, the problems did not hurt the batteries. The batteries simply switched off prematurely before charging was complete, and the users had to restart the charging process several times. Also, it was not designed for easy battery insertion, always requiring two hands and a struggle. Eleven years later, many people are still using their SuperChargers and are reluctant to part with them. All the background information was absorbed and a totally re-engineered product emerged, the Battery Xtender ™ Tests have shown that it does live up to expectations, and that the claims of ten times life extension for ordinary alkaline batteries are not exaggerated. The case has been redesigned to allow easy one-handed access to the batteries, and it occupies much less space on a desk, table top or counter. ---------------------------- See also: http://www.tested.com/tech/1992-can-...ine-batteries/ |
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H oM eG uy" "H om e wrote:
Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? http://www.allaboutbatteries.com/Alkaline-charging.html How many times can an ordinary alkaline battery be recharged? Would you believe hundreds of times? The trick is to stop using the battery well before it has given up all of its available stored energy. Note that this is directly opposite to the instructions that were packed with your battery-operated drill or screwdriver with its NiCad batteries. When the drill stops turning, charge the battery, but not before. Good rule for NiCads, but not for alkaline batteries. Good rule if you want to reverse charge and destroy cells in your nicad battery. |
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On Monday, March 31, 2014 9:19:19 PM UTC-7, H oM eG uy wrote:
How many times can an ordinary alkaline battery be recharged? Would you believe hundreds of times? The trick is to stop using the battery well before it has given up all of its available stored energy. Note that this is directly opposite to the instructions that were packed with your battery-operated drill or screwdriver with its NiCad batteries. All the background information was absorbed and a totally re- engineered product emerged, the Battery Xtender ™ Tests have shown that it does live up to expectations, and that the claims of ten times life extension for ordinary alkaline batteries are not exaggerated. See also: http://www.tested.com/tech/1992-can-...ine-batteries/ BS, and don't trust Tested.com. Even NiMHs and NiCads sometimes can't be recharged hundreds of times, and the manufacturers of rechargeable alkalines have claimed only about 10-30 recharges. In the 1970s Mallory (now known as Duracell) made rechargeable alkalines, and either Duracell or Energizer tried to sell them in the 1990s, but both times those alkalines just didn't work well, even when users did as you said and recharged them when they were still near full capacity. Wireless World once featured a charger for regular alkalines. It would repeatedly charge for a few milliseconds and then load down the cell for a few milliseconds to check its state of charge, and a full charge for a D cell took something like 30 hours. This was an old design, not based on any microcontroller. The article mentioned the importance of not overcharging and showed a chart relating state of charge to internal pressure. Cells could reach 70 PSI when overcharged. Tested.com once tried the Wet Circuits power strip, claimed to be safe even for use in very wet conditions: http://www.tested.com/tech/5487-test...s-power-strip/ Why didn't those people get shocked? Because the 120VAC came from a grounded circuit, and even if had been connected to only a 2-wire circuit, it's likely any electrical leakage would have been conducted by the neutral wire, instead of through any humans. But there's always the possibility of loss of neutral, which creates a very dangerous condition for ungrounded circuits. Also the Wet Circuits power strip was falsely claimed to be UL approved for safety, but UL said otherwise: http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/n...1205080000.xml So why should you trust Tested.com about an alkaline recharger when it couldn't even catch something as simple as an obviously dangerous power strip? |
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:35:43 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 22:24:22 -0400, micky wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:39:27 -0500, philo* wrote: On 03/31/2014 12:18 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 3/31/2014 8:45 AM, philo wrote: On 03/31/2014 07:42 AM, Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? X No, they do not work. Dry cells are a non-reversable chemical process When i was a kid, my Dad had a charger for dry cells. It put some power back in, but not much. BTW, alkaline cells are not dry. Though alkaline batteries may be moist inside they are considered dry cells. "Wet" cells have actual liquid inside. Are rechargeable AA cells wet or dry? "damp" - technically dry cells. Philo said that dry cells are/use a non-reversable chemical process. Doesn't that make someone wrong? |
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On 3/31/2014 9:43 PM, nestork wrote:
However, this ad says that it can discharge ANY battery and even shows a pile of Duracell non-rechargeable batteries if you click on "Specifications" and that's gotta be false. If anyone developed a recharger that would recharge disposable alkaline batteries, it would be big news, and so far I ain't heard nuthin. I've had one of these for years. Works nicely if the cells aren't badly discharged. Many will leak, some hold. http://www.amazon.com/Viateks-ReNu-I.../dp/B000F3ZJ0I -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On 3/31/2014 11:19 PM, H oM eG uy wrote:
Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? http://www.allaboutbatteries.com/Alkaline-charging.html That's just a sales pitch from a company peddling its charger. Then there's this: ""The alkaline batteries (which are generally based on the conversion of MnO2 and Zn to Mn3O4 and ZnO) offer an excellent example of this last point. Although the chemical changes at the electrodes can be reversed, until recently alkaline batteries were manufactured only to function as primary cells. Recharging one of these primary cells could allow the battery to be reused, but the possible number of recharging cycles for such a cell is very limited--it performs more poorly with each recharge. More important, recharging an old-fashioned alkaline battery is not safe. During or after a recharge, the battery might generate enough hydrogen gas to cause an explosion. In their rechargeable form, alkaline cells have undergone several changes. They have been redesigned to allow for a more efficient reverse reaction, they contain a catalyst to minimize hydrogen formation and they have safety vents that prevent the buildup of excess pressure during recharging." http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...argeable-that/ So - recharging standard alkalkine batteries isn't safe, nor is it very efficient, given that the potential number of recharges is very low, and the amount of available power decreases with each cycle. Considering how cheap even the high-quality rechargeable batteries are getting, I can't see why anyone would bother messing around with trying to recharge disposable batteries. |
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On 04/01/2014 06:17 AM, micky wrote:
Ons When i was a kid, my Dad had a charger for dry cells. It put some power back in, but not much. BTW, alkaline cells are not dry. Though alkaline batteries may be moist inside they are considered dry cells. "Wet" cells have actual liquid inside. Are rechargeable AA cells wet or dry? "damp" - technically dry cells. Philo said that dry cells are/use a non-reversable chemical process. Doesn't that make someone wrong? This will save me a lot of typing http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Analytic...ical_reactions |
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On 4/1/2014 2:36 AM, wrote:
See also: http://www.tested.com/tech/1992-can-...ine-batteries/ BS, and don't trust Tested.com. So why should you trust Tested.com about an alkaline recharger when it couldn't even catch something as simple as an obviously dangerous power strip? And why would we test a poster named Larry, Moe, and Curly? -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On 4/1/2014 7:17 AM, micky wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:35:43 -0400, wrote: Though alkaline batteries may be moist inside they are considered dry cells. "Wet" cells have actual liquid inside. Are rechargeable AA cells wet or dry? "damp" - technically dry cells. Philo said that dry cells are/use a non-reversable chemical process. Doesn't that make someone wrong? I don't think we can be bipartisan, on this one. As for me, I've recharged single use alkalines, for years. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 08:31:37 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 4/1/2014 7:17 AM, micky wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:35:43 -0400, wrote: Though alkaline batteries may be moist inside they are considered dry cells. "Wet" cells have actual liquid inside. Are rechargeable AA cells wet or dry? "damp" - technically dry cells. Philo said that dry cells are/use a non-reversable chemical process. Doesn't that make someone wrong? I don't think we can be bipartisan, on this one. As for me, I've recharged single use alkalines, for years. It hardly seems worth it. After you recharge one for years, how long does it last? |
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On 04/01/2014 07:52 AM, micky wrote:
On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 08:31:37 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 4/1/2014 7:17 AM, micky wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:35:43 -0400, wrote: Though alkaline batteries may be moist inside they are considered dry cells. "Wet" cells have actual liquid inside. Are rechargeable AA cells wet or dry? "damp" - technically dry cells. Philo said that dry cells are/use a non-reversable chemical process. Doesn't that make someone wrong? I don't think we can be bipartisan, on this one. As for me, I've recharged single use alkalines, for years. It hardly seems worth it. After you recharge one for years, how long does it last? LOL good one. Like I said before, a dry cell (or any battery for that matter) will partially recover just by letting it sit for a while. In addition to the chemical reaction running it's course...a dry cell will make a transition from "moist" to "dry". If you poke holes in the side and soak it in salt water you actually can gain some charge...but you'd have to tape it up and still it would probably leak. Might be useful on Gilligan's Island though. |
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On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 07:59:01 -0500, philo* wrote:
On 04/01/2014 07:52 AM, micky wrote: On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 08:31:37 -0400, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 4/1/2014 7:17 AM, micky wrote: On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:35:43 -0400, wrote: Though alkaline batteries may be moist inside they are considered dry cells. "Wet" cells have actual liquid inside. Are rechargeable AA cells wet or dry? "damp" - technically dry cells. Philo said that dry cells are/use a non-reversable chemical process. Doesn't that make someone wrong? I don't think we can be bipartisan, on this one. As for me, I've recharged single use alkalines, for years. It hardly seems worth it. After you recharge one for years, how long does it last? LOL good one. Like I said before, a dry cell (or any battery for that matter) will partially recover just by letting it sit for a while. In addition to the chemical reaction running it's course...a dry cell will make a transition from "moist" to "dry". If you poke holes in the side and soak it in salt water you actually can gain some charge...but you'd have to tape it up and still it would probably leak. Might be useful on Gilligan's Island though. They never ran out of clothes. Someone must have been marooned there before they were. |
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micky posted for all of us...
And I know how to SNIP Are rechargeable AA cells wet or dry? Yes -- Tekkie |
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On 4/1/2014 7:18 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
On 3/31/2014 11:19 PM, H oM eG uy wrote: Art Todesco wrote: I just saw this ad: http://www.dailysteals.com/#d/21800 Anyone know it they work and how much energy you get after a charge, compared to a new cell? http://www.allaboutbatteries.com/Alkaline-charging.html That's just a sales pitch from a company peddling its charger. Then there's this: ""The alkaline batteries (which are generally based on the conversion of MnO2 and Zn to Mn3O4 and ZnO) offer an excellent example of this last point. Although the chemical changes at the electrodes can be reversed, until recently alkaline batteries were manufactured only to function as primary cells. Recharging one of these primary cells could allow the battery to be reused, but the possible number of recharging cycles for such a cell is very limited--it performs more poorly with each recharge. More important, recharging an old-fashioned alkaline battery is not safe. During or after a recharge, the battery might generate enough hydrogen gas to cause an explosion. In their rechargeable form, alkaline cells have undergone several changes. They have been redesigned to allow for a more efficient reverse reaction, they contain a catalyst to minimize hydrogen formation and they have safety vents that prevent the buildup of excess pressure during recharging." http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...argeable-that/ That's good information, it's just at least 15 years out of date and alkaline batteries have changed since then. Not in their basic form but in many subtle ways to improve their performance. ^_^ TDD |
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On 4/1/2014 8:52 AM, micky wrote:
I don't think we can be bipartisan, on this one. As for me, I've recharged single use alkalines, for years. It hardly seems worth it. After you recharge one for years, how long does it last? As the bus came to a stop, the woman got off the bus with a jerk. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 5:30:08 AM UTC-7, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 4/1/2014 2:36 AM, wrote: See also: http://www.tested.com/tech/1992-can-...ine-batteries/ BS, and don't trust Tested.com. So why should you trust Tested.com about an alkaline recharger when it couldn't even catch something as simple as an obviously dangerous power strip? And why would we test a poster named Larry, Moe, and Curly? Because we three have cited proof, unlike somebody in the newsgroups who keeps preaching a false prophecy fabricated by a pedophile and convicted con artist whose tale has never been shown to have any archeological proof, according to even its followers. I'm not saying it's crazier or less valid than other beliefs, just that its original prophet wasn't at all sincere, unlike the true believer bipolar or schizophrenic prophets of ancient times. |
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 05:37:21 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 4/1/2014 8:52 AM, micky wrote: I don't think we can be bipartisan, on this one. As for me, I've recharged single use alkalines, for years. It hardly seems worth it. After you recharge one for years, how long does it last? As the bus came to a stop, the woman got off the bus with a jerk. Yes, but she disappointed me before the day was over. |
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On 4/2/2014 7:34 AM, wrote:
And why would we test a poster named Larry, Moe, and Curly? Because we three have cited proof, unlike somebody in the newsgroups who keeps preaching a false prophecy fabricated by a pedophile and convicted con artist whose tale has never been shown to have any archeological proof, according to even its followers. I'm not saying it's crazier or less valid than other beliefs, just that its original prophet wasn't at all sincere, unlike the true believer bipolar or schizophrenic prophets of ancient times. Who might that be? Some Muslim raghead, maybe? -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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Alkaline battery chargers
Tekkie® wrote:
micky posted for all of us... And I know how to SNIP Are rechargeable AA cells wet or dry? Yes I knew that. |
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