Hi
I had fake brick (faux brick) for the front of the house. They put the fake brick on the plywood without mesh or anything!! just the fake brick and cements. We removed all the bricks, now it is only plywood and it is an old one and few places are rotten (back) (I will post pictures). I am going to put a wood panel (from home depot called Smart panel. it is wood siding basically).

My question, should i treat the plywood with something to make it better or fix any damage etc before I put the wood panels? I am not going to put any isolation because the siding of the house which were done the same way, i do not think they use isolation. But my concern now, do I need to treat the plywood with a certain material.

Thanks a lot

leza wang wrote:
Hi
I had fake brick (faux brick) for the front of the house. They put the
fake brick on the plywood without mesh or anything!! just the fake brick
and cements. We removed all the bricks, now it is only plywood and it is
an old one and few places are rotten (back) (I will post pictures). I am
going to put a wood panel (from home depot called Smart panel. it is wood
siding basically).

My question, should i treat the plywood with something to make it better
or fix any damage etc before I put the wood panels? I am not going to put
any isolation because the siding of the house which were done the same
way, i do not think they use isolation. But my concern now, do I need to
treat the plywood with a certain material.

Thanks a lot

You removed the bricks? When? Don't you have a water problem in the laundry
room, a unvented dryer, a hole in the floor of the basement landing and a
leaky sink?

Shouldn't those take priority over dealing with a cosmetic issue like
replacing fake brick?

DerbyDad03 wrote:
leza wang wrote:
Hi
I had fake brick (faux brick) for the front of the house. They put the
fake brick on the plywood without mesh or anything!! just the fake brick
and cements. We removed all the bricks, now it is only plywood and it is
an old one and few places are rotten (back) (I will post pictures). I am
going to put a wood panel (from home depot called Smart panel. it is wood
siding basically).

My question, should i treat the plywood with something to make it better
or fix any damage etc before I put the wood panels? I am not going to put
any isolation because the siding of the house which were done the same
way, i do not think they use isolation. But my concern now, do I need to
treat the plywood with a certain material.

Thanks a lot

You removed the bricks? When? Don't you have a water problem in the laundry
room, a unvented dryer, a hole in the floor of the basement landing and a
leaky sink?

Shouldn't those take priority over dealing with a cosmetic issue like
replacing fake brick?

Hi,
Way back I remember OP was buying this house 'cause it was cheap. Now
after thought, all this works going on , was the house worth it for the
price? Time is money, material costs money, If plywood had rotten spots,
you have to rip it out. Isolation? You mean insulation? On that house
is there anything in good shape?

On Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:36:48 PM UTC-4, leza wang wrote:
Hi

I had fake brick (faux brick) for the front of the house. They put the fake brick on the plywood without mesh or anything!! just the fake brick and cements. We removed all the bricks, now it is only plywood and it is an old one and few places are rotten (back) (I will post pictures). I am going to put a wood panel (from home depot called Smart panel. it is wood siding basically).



My question, should i treat the plywood with something to make it better or fix any damage etc before I put the wood panels?

If the plywood is rotted, then of course you have to replace
the rotted sections, unless you want the new siding to fall off.
Tyvek should go over the plywood before the new siding goes on.



I am not going to put any isolation because the siding of the house which were done the same way, i do not think they use isolation.

Hopefully there is insulation and a vapor barrier in the
wall cavity. But from what we've seen so far, I wouldn't bet
on it. That is how it should be done. I guess if there isn't
any or there isn't enough, you could put some kind of rigid
insulation under the siding, but I have no experience with that.
Plus, I would think it would create all kinds of problems, like
how do you deal with the increased thickness, ie siding will not
line up with windows, doors, etc.




But my concern now, do I need to treat the plywood with a certain material..



Thanks a lot

No, you don't treat it. Typically, CDX grade plywood or OSB is
used. But I'd say one thing that should be determined is in the
areas where the plywood failed, why did it fail? If it was because
the faux brick wasn't installed correctly and let water in, then
you're fixing that. If it rotted for some other reason, that
hasn't been addressed, then it needs to be, otherwise the new
plywood will rot too. Bottom line, if the construction is done
correctly, plywood is protected and won't rot. I just pulled some
siding off my house, at 30 years, the sheathing is still perfect.

"leza wang" wrote in message
...
Hi
I had fake brick (faux brick) for the front of the house. They put the
fake brick on the plywood without mesh or anything!! just the fake brick
and cements. We removed all the bricks, now it is only plywood and it is
an old one and few places are rotten (back) (I will post pictures). I am
going to put a wood panel (from home depot called Smart panel. it is wood
siding basically).

My question, should i treat the plywood with something to make it better
or fix any damage etc before I put the wood panels? I am not going to put
any isolation because the siding of the house which were done the same
way, i do not think they use isolation. But my concern now, do I need to
treat the plywood with a certain material.

Thanks a lot

http://www2.dupont.com/Tyvek/en_US/index.html

On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 04:30:40 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You removed the bricks? When? Don't you have a water problem in the laundry
room, a unvented dryer, a hole in the floor of the basement landing and a
leaky sink?

Shouldn't those take priority over dealing with a cosmetic issue like
replacing fake brick?

....and what about the roof leak, the windows that would not operate in
the bedroom, the carport that needed replacement, the damaged front
door jamb, etc.

I asked her yesterday about the sink leak - if she removed the cap nut
on the drain pop up lever. Never got an answer.

Hard to help a person that will not answer basic questions.

As long as the siding you buy is exterior rated, you should be ok due to outside moisture.

But I would worrry about winter moisture from inside the house collecting on the back side of your new siding. So, I would definitely paint the back side of the new siding with an exterior grade paint just to protect it from any moisture that may collect during the cold winter months.

On Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:36:48 PM UTC-4, leza wang wrote:
Hi

I had fake brick (faux brick) for the front of the house. They put the fake brick on the plywood without mesh or anything!! just the fake brick and cements. We removed all the bricks, now it is only plywood and it is an old one and few places are rotten (back) (I will post pictures). I am going to put a wood panel (from home depot called Smart panel. it is wood siding basically).



My question, should i treat the plywood with something to make it better or fix any damage etc before I put the wood panels? I am not going to put any isolation because the siding of the house which were done the same way, i do not think they use isolation. But my concern now, do I need to treat the plywood with a certain material.



Thanks a lot

this is the picture of the front now

http://tinypic.com/r/znnaqe/5

On Monday, July 22, 2013 12:13:56 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 04:30:40 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03

wrote:



You removed the bricks? When? Don't you have a water problem in the laundry

room, a unvented dryer, a hole in the floor of the basement landing and a

leaky sink?



Shouldn't those take priority over dealing with a cosmetic issue like

replacing fake brick?



...and what about the roof leak, the windows that would not operate in

the bedroom, the carport that needed replacement, the damaged front

door jamb, etc.



I asked her yesterday about the sink leak - if she removed the cap nut

on the drain pop up lever. Never got an answer.



Hard to help a person that will not answer basic questions.

thanks for your reply and sorry for not answering. i do not have internet access now.. anyway all these issues related somehow. it did rain heavy and i found that the basement wall leaking then check the attic found roof is leaking.. then because of the rain/wind the fake bricks infront start falling! when to wash my hand and found the sink leaking!! i fixed the basement wall, waiting for the roofer to come and replace the roof. doing the front now. i am gathering info to fix the sink now and once i am ready i will fix it. thanks for all help.

About your question, yes i removed it and when i took the picture it was not there. thanks.

On Monday, July 22, 2013 12:16:02 PM UTC-4, wrote:
As long as the siding you buy is exterior rated, you should be ok due to outside moisture.



But I would worrry about winter moisture from inside the house collecting on the back side of your new siding. So, I would definitely paint the back side of the new siding with an exterior grade paint just to protect it from any moisture that may collect during the cold winter months.

Great! thanks a lot. Do you recommend any paint? should i paint the plywood with the same paint? thanks a lot.

Oren wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 04:30:40 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You removed the bricks? When? Don't you have a water problem in the laundry
room, a unvented dryer, a hole in the floor of the basement landing and a
leaky sink?

Shouldn't those take priority over dealing with a cosmetic issue like
replacing fake brick?

...and what about the roof leak, the windows that would not operate in
the bedroom, the carport that needed replacement, the damaged front
door jamb, etc.

I asked her yesterday about the sink leak - if she removed the cap nut
on the drain pop up lever. Never got an answer.

Hard to help a person that will not answer basic questions.

Some of these people ask the question and never reply, It's like someone
asking an audience a question and then leaving the stage before anyone
answers.


--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @

leza wang wrote:
On Sunday, July 21, 2013 10:36:48 PM UTC-4, leza wang wrote:
Hi

I had fake brick (faux brick) for the front of the house. They put
the fake brick on the plywood without mesh or anything!! just the
fake brick and cements. We removed all the bricks, now it is only
plywood and it is an old one and few places are rotten (back) (I
will post pictures). I am going to put a wood panel (from home depot
called Smart panel. it is wood siding basically).

My question, should i treat the plywood with something to make it
better or fix any damage etc before I put the wood panels? I am not
going to put any isolation because the siding of the house which
were done the same way, i do not think they use isolation. But my
concern now, do I need to treat the plywood with a certain material.

Thanks a lot

this is the picture of the front now

http://tinypic.com/r/znnaqe/5

From the photo, it doesn't look too bad. Where are the parts that are
water-damaged? Are they right under the window sill, or maybe someplace
else?

If the damage is under the window sill, it could be the window that is
leaking and allowing water to get in. If it is up high near the roof line,
maybe it is due to water getting in from a roof leak.

It looks like the siding that you are going to put up is called SmartSide:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/SmartSide...7874/100055901 .



It says that it is some type of "composite" material, but I don't know what
that means exactly.



My hunch is that using something like Tyvek underneath as a vapor barrier as
others suggested may be the best idea instead of any type of paint etc.


product

On Monday, July 22, 2013 12:16:02 PM UTC-4, wrote:
As long as the siding you buy is exterior rated, you should be ok due to outside moisture.



But I would worrry about winter moisture from inside the house collecting on the back side of your new siding. So, I would definitely paint the back side of the new siding with an exterior grade paint just to protect it from any moisture that may collect during the cold winter months.

That's what the vapor barrier that comes before the insulation in the
walls are for. And then you have Tyvek between the sheating and
siding.

But we don't know if there is any vapor barrier between the wall that we can see and the inside of the house. If there is no vapor barrier, moisture will build up somewhere inside the wall in the winter. I don't know how to tell Leza how to tell if there is a vapor barrier somewhere already or not.. Anyone with ideas should tell Leza how to tell if there is a vapor barrier already in place.

On Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:36:48 PM UTC-5, leza wang wrote:
Hi I had fake brick (faux brick) for the front of the house. They put the fake brick on the plywood without mesh or anything!! just the fake brick and cements. We removed all the bricks, now it is only plywood and it is an old one and few places are rotten (back) (I will post pictures). I am going to put a wood panel (from home depot called Smart panel. it is wood siding basically). My question, should i treat the plywood with something to make it better or fix any damage etc before I put the wood panels? I am not going to put any isolation because the siding of the house which were done the same way, i do not think they use isolation. But my concern now, do I need to treat the plywood with a certain material. Thanks a lot

What Leza calls plywood sure looks to me like particle board which is MUCH less resistant to moisture. Am I seeing things correctly?

On Monday, July 22, 2013 9:44:57 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:36:48 PM UTC-5, leza wang wrote:

Hi I had fake brick (faux brick) for the front of the house. They put the fake brick on the plywood without mesh or anything!! just the fake brick and cements. We removed all the bricks, now it is only plywood and it is an old one and few places are rotten (back) (I will post pictures). I am going to put a wood panel (from home depot called Smart panel. it is wood siding basically). My question, should i treat the plywood with something to make it better or fix any damage etc before I put the wood panels? I am not going to put any isolation because the siding of the house which were done the same way, i do not think they use isolation. But my concern now, do I need to treat the plywood with a certain material. Thanks a lot



What Leza calls plywood sure looks to me like particle board which is MUCH less resistant to moisture. Am I seeing things correctly?

Yes, I saw that too. It's OSB, not plywood.