Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
nomailverizon.net wrote:









Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite







This was voted upon by the BSA, not imposed by some judge with an
agenda. It is what it is, so be it.




J Young


Honesty. Decency. Integrity

In article ,
J wrote:

On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
nomailverizon.net wrote:









Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite







This was voted upon by the BSA, not imposed by some judge with an
agenda. It is what it is, so be it.

What does this decision have to do with pedophilia?

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

On May 24, 7:20*am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,









*J wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

This was voted upon by the BSA, not imposed by some judge with an
agenda. It is what it is, so be it.

What does this decision have to do with pedophilia?


Similar sorts of perverts.

In article
,
harry wrote:

On May 24, 7:20*am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,









*J wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

This was voted upon by the BSA, not imposed by some judge with an
agenda. It is what it is, so be it.

What does this decision have to do with pedophilia?


Similar sorts of perverts.

Really? Are you really that ignorant?

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

In article ,
Brother Love wrote:

On Fri, 24 May 2013 20:02:46 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
wrote:

In article
,
harry wrote:

On May 24, 7:20*am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,









*J wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...scouts-vote-to
-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

This was voted upon by the BSA, not imposed by some judge with an
agenda. It is what it is, so be it.

What does this decision have to do with pedophilia?


Similar sorts of perverts.

Really? Are you really that ignorant?

Did you really score over 700 on your SATs?

Yep.

708 on the verbal, 727 on the math, 664 on English Comp, 656 on Biology,
and 575 on French.

And that was before they dumbed down the SATs.

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

On Thu, 23 May 2013 23:20:08 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
wrote:

In article ,
J wrote:

On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
nomailverizon.net wrote:



Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite




This was voted upon by the BSA, not imposed by some judge with an
agenda. It is what it is, so be it.

What does this decision have to do with pedophilia?




Who mentioned anything about pedophilia? I just posted that I
acccepted this decision without criticism because it was voted uopn
the organization itself and not imposed on them by a judge.

This is why I'm the recipient of so much criticism. People read what
they want to see, not what I actually wrote.





J Young


Honesty. Decency. Integrity

On Sat, 25 May 2013 10:31:39 -0700, J wrote:

On Thu, 23 May 2013 23:20:08 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
wrote:

In article ,
J wrote:

On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
nomailverizon.net wrote:



Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite




This was voted upon by the BSA, not imposed by some judge with an
agenda. It is what it is, so be it.

What does this decision have to do with pedophilia?




Who mentioned anything about pedophilia? I just posted that I
acccepted this decision without criticism because it was voted uopn
the organization itself and not imposed on them by a judge.

Accepted? Who are you to have to accept anything?

The fact is that they buckled under to pressure groups. Not good.

This is why I'm the recipient of so much criticism. People read what
they want to see, not what I actually wrote.





J Young


Honesty. Decency. Integrity

GMAFB.

On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:54:56 -0700
J wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

This was voted upon by the BSA, not imposed by some judge with an
agenda. It is what it is, so be it.

In the USA, because judges are elected, one could argue for the
likelihood of said agenda being "re-election."

--
Fidem Turb�re, the non-existent atheist goddess
"I have made good judgements in the past. I have made good judgements
in the future."
-- Dan Quayle

"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"
wrote in message
news:20130523234032.071f34029fd9745d79937b38@fidem turbare.com...
On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:54:56 -0700
J wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

This was voted upon by the BSA, not imposed by some judge with an
agenda. It is what it is, so be it.

In the USA, because judges are elected, one could argue for the
likelihood of said agenda being "re-election."


Some are, some are not
Would you like to try again ?

On Fri, 24 May 2013 07:08:55 -0500
"Attila Iskander" wrote:
"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"
wrote in message
news:20130523234032.071f34029fd9745d79937b38@fidem turbare.com...
On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:54:56 -0700
J wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

This was voted upon by the BSA, not imposed by some judge with an
agenda. It is what it is, so be it.

In the USA, because judges are elected, one could argue for the
likelihood of said agenda being "re-election."

Some are, some are not
Would you like to try again ?

See my response to Joe Bruno.

--
Fidem Turb�re, the non-existent atheist goddess
"Physics isn't the most important thing; love is."
-- Richard P. Feynman

"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"
wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 May 2013 07:08:55 -0500
"Attila Iskander" wrote:
"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"
wrote in message
news:20130523234032.071f34029fd9745d79937b38@fidem turbare.com...
On Thu, 23 May 2013 20:54:56 -0700
J wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:38:11 -0500, Mitchell Holman
nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

This was voted upon by the BSA, not imposed by some judge with an
agenda. It is what it is, so be it.

In the USA, because judges are elected, one could argue for the
likelihood of said agenda being "re-election."

Some are, some are not
Would you like to try again ?

See my response to Joe Bruno.


Joe who ?
I have no intention to go fishing for your response

In the meantime your claim is BULL****
Some judges are elected, some are not

In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still
a bigoted organization.

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

On May 24, 5:36*am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
*Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still
a bigoted organization.

--

JD



It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to
potential victims.

On 5/23/2013 11:50 PM, harry wrote:
On May 24, 5:36 am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still
a bigoted organization.

--

JD



It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to
potential victims.

Nope. They already had that access. Now the rules will be more strictly
enforced, and that will mean fewer straight pedophiles in Scouting.

"Tom McDonald" wrote in message
...
On 5/23/2013 11:50 PM, harry wrote:
On May 24, 5:36 am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still
a bigoted organization.

--

JD



It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to
potential victims.

Nope. They already had that access. Now the rules will be more strictly
enforced, and that will mean fewer straight pedophiles in Scouting.



Ironic that by definition an individual attracted to someone of the same sex
is NOT "straight".
But hey, let's not let little details like that get in the way.

On Fri, 24 May 2013 07:12:26 -0500, "Attila Iskander"
wrote:

"Tom McDonald" wrote in message
...
On 5/23/2013 11:50 PM, harry wrote:
On May 24, 5:36 am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still
a bigoted organization.

--

JD



It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to
potential victims.

Nope. They already had that access. Now the rules will be more strictly
enforced, and that will mean fewer straight pedophiles in Scouting.



Ironic that by definition an individual attracted to someone of the same sex
is NOT "straight".
But hey, let's not let little details like that get in the way.


Little details like "straight" is a homonym, and under the applicable definition
of heterosexual, asexuals are also "not straight."

On 5/24/2013 7:12 AM, Attila Iskander wrote:
"Tom McDonald" wrote in message
...
On 5/23/2013 11:50 PM, harry wrote:
On May 24, 5:36 am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-

lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are
still
a bigoted organization.

--

JD



It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to
potential victims.

Nope. They already had that access. Now the rules will be more
strictly enforced, and that will mean fewer straight pedophiles in
Scouting.



Ironic that by definition an individual attracted to someone of the same
sex is NOT "straight".
But hey, let's not let little details like that get in the way.

OK, what's your definition of men who sexually abuse prepubescent and
young pubescent boys preferentially, who otherwise are heterosexual
(i.e. don't have or want to have sex with sexually mature men), and are
almost always married to women?

Gay men are not attracted to prepubescent and pubescent boys at a
greater rate than are, let's say, otherwise straight men.

Or are you sexually attracted to members of the opposite sex no matter
how young they are?

Tom McDonald wrote:

Nope. They already had that access. Now the rules will be more strictly
enforced, and that will mean fewer straight pedophiles in Scouting.

If you must have pedophiles in Scouting, you probably want nothing but
straight pedophiles, in the Boy Scouts where they have no girls to
diddle, and also in the Girl Scouts where they have no boys to diddle.

On 5/24/2013 9:44 AM, linuxgal wrote:
Tom McDonald wrote:

Nope. They already had that access. Now the rules will be more strictly
enforced, and that will mean fewer straight pedophiles in Scouting.

If you must have pedophiles in Scouting, you probably want nothing but
straight pedophiles, in the Boy Scouts where they have no girls to
diddle, and also in the Girl Scouts where they have no boys to diddle.

It's a bit of a conundrum, for me at least, what to call adult males who
have sex with adult women, not adult men, but diddle little boys and/or
girls.

'Homosexual' isn't quite right. Neither is, I'll grant you, 'straight'.
But I'm unsure what nomenclature to use when confronted with the fact
that the pedophiles I was aware of as a kid were all adult males with
wives and children, and who never, to my knowledge, engaged in sex with
other men.

AIUI, gay men are no more sexually attracted to young boys than straight
men are sexually attracted to young girls. That means that, of course,
some are; but I'm not aware of that happening at a significantly greater
rate with gays than with straights.

Sexuality is fascinating, and talking about it can be
frustrating--especially at times like in this discussion.

Or, of course, when one isn't getting any.

"linuxgal" wrote in message
...
Tom McDonald wrote:

Nope. They already had that access. Now the rules will be more strictly
enforced, and that will mean fewer straight pedophiles in Scouting.

If you must have pedophiles in Scouting, you probably want nothing but
straight pedophiles, in the Boy Scouts where they have no girls to diddle,
and also in the Girl Scouts where they have no boys to diddle.



Pedophiles are pedophiles
They are more into "small children as sexual objects to control" than either
boys or girls.

Teach your child to say 'no', to learn what is and what is not
acceptable behaviour from an adult, not to keep secrets, etc. and
really I don't see where the sexuality of someone would be a concern.
I mean don't we have gay teachers? Sheesh.

Mike Lalonde ~ Sudbury, Ontario
jumlers.com

On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:50:24 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

On May 24, 5:36*am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
*Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still
a bigoted organization.

--

JD



It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to
potential victims.


It seems like they've had pretty good access under the homophobic rules.

On Fri, 24 May 2013 09:13:03 -0400, Ben Kaufman
wrote:

On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:50:24 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

On May 24, 5:36*am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
*Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still
a bigoted organization.

--

JD



It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to
potential victims.


It seems like they've had pretty good access under the homophobic rules.

....and it can only get better with those attracted to the only sex
that is in Scouts?

On Fri, 24 May 2013 23:58:41 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 24 May 2013 09:13:03 -0400, Ben Kaufman
wrote:

On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:50:24 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote:

On May 24, 5:36*am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
*Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still
a bigoted organization.

--

JD



It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to
potential victims.


It seems like they've had pretty good access under the homophobic rules.

...and it can only get better with those attracted to the only sex
that is in Scouts?

An openly gay "trusted member of the community" is not any more likely to be a
pedophile than any other "trusted member of the community."

If you think about it, from your own response, a gay scoutmaster would have a
giant flag on his head, but the guy pretending to be heterosexual with a wife
and kids might get all the trust and access he needs.

On May 24, 12:50*am, harry wrote:
On May 24, 5:36*am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:









In article ,
*Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still
a bigoted organization.

--

JD

It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to
potential victims.

Isn't that what the churches are for?

On May 24, 6:53*pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On May 24, 12:50*am, harry wrote:









On May 24, 5:36*am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article ,
*Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still
a bigoted organization.

--

JD

It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to
potential victims.

Isn't that what the churches are for?

Yes but no stone is left unturned.
I wonder what monks wear under their habits?
Or do they go commando?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_commando

On Fri, 24 May 2013 22:29:05 -0700 (PDT)
harry wrote:
On May 24, 6:53Â*pm, Father Haskell wrote:
On May 24, 12:50Â*am, harry wrote:
On May 24, 5:36Â*am, Jeanne Douglas
wrote:
In article ,
Â*Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts
are still a bigoted organization.

--

JD

It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to
potential victims.

Isn't that what the churches are for?

Yes but no stone is left unturned.
I wonder what monks wear under their habits?
Or do they go commando?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_commando

What? Like some kilt-wearing Scottish men are suspected of?

--
Fidem Turb�re, the non-existent atheist goddess
"You can lead an atheist to a miracle, but you can't make them believe."
-- Anonymous (August 12, 2012)

On Friday, May 24, 2013 12:50:24 AM UTC-4, harry wrote:
On May 24, 5:36*am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article ,

*Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:



Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth

May 23 2013



GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted

Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay

kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most

popular youth organizations, ditching membership

guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.

Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400

delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,

BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,

to 475 no.



http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-

lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite



It's about ****ing time!



Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still

a bigoted organization.



--



JD







It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to

potential victims.

I vote they and you are beaten to death. WE do not need stinking religious freaks.
Get out of my country.

On May 25, 12:41*pm, US Judges are the enemy wrote:
On Friday, May 24, 2013 12:50:24 AM UTC-4, harry wrote:
On May 24, 5:36*am, Jeanne Douglas wrote:

In article ,

*Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth

May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted

Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay

kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most

popular youth organizations, ditching membership

guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.

Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400

delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,

BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,

to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-

lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are still

a bigoted organization.

--

JD

It's so the perverts/paedos of America can get better access to

potential victims.

I vote they and you are beaten to death. WE do not need stinking religious freaks.
Get out of my country.

So you are a pervert?

On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:36:09 -0700
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are
still a bigoted organization.

The fact that they had to take it to a vote seems strange to me, but
it's good to know that 39% of the upper echelon are still anti-gay.

It's disappointing that people give as much respect to The Boy Scouts
as they do. The organization is defective and needs new leadership
that respects and embraces the personal freedoms of its membership.

--
Fidem Turb�re, the non-existent atheist goddess
"Unfortunately, the people of Louisiana are not racists."
-- Dan Quayle

"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"
wrote in message
news:20130523234312.18c11ed8fac99ed2d628a706@fidem turbare.com...
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:36:09 -0700
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are
still a bigoted organization.

The fact that they had to take it to a vote seems strange to me, but
it's good to know that 39% of the upper echelon are still anti-gay.

It's disappointing that people give as much respect to The Boy Scouts
as they do. The organization is defective and needs new leadership
that respects and embraces the personal freedoms of its membership.


You always have the choice of joining and trying to change it
Alternately you can start something equivalent modified to meet your
standards.

Always funny to see people come along and criticize a group of people who
join together for whatever reasons , that don't meet the critics' standards.

On Fri, 24 May 2013 07:11:07 -0500, "Attila Iskander"
wrote:

"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"
wrote in message
news:20130523234312.18c11ed8fac99ed2d628a706@fide mturbare.com...
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:36:09 -0700
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are
still a bigoted organization.

The fact that they had to take it to a vote seems strange to me, but
it's good to know that 39% of the upper echelon are still anti-gay.

It's disappointing that people give as much respect to The Boy Scouts
as they do. The organization is defective and needs new leadership
that respects and embraces the personal freedoms of its membership.


You always have the choice of joining and trying to change it
Alternately you can start something equivalent modified to meet your
standards.

Always funny to see people come along and criticize a group of people who
join together for whatever reasons , that don't meet the critics' standards.



What a bunch of homophobics. Being a former boy scout myself many
years ago, we didn't think about it then and for all I know, perhaps
some were gay then but were in the closet. So now it's just more
official, that's all. For me, as long as they keep their hands off,
let it be.

Now taking to the next level, what do we do with transgenders wanting
to be in the boy scouts? That's where I have a problem deciding.

Doug wrote:
Now taking to the next level, what do we do with transgenders wanting
to be in the boy scouts? That's where I have a problem deciding.

"We" don't do anything, it's for the Boy Scouts to decide.

On May 24, 2:27*pm, "Doug" wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2013 07:11:07 -0500, "Attila Iskander"









wrote:
"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"
wrote in message
news:20130523234312.18c11ed8fac99ed2d628a706@fide mturbare.com...
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:36:09 -0700
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
*Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are
still a bigoted organization.

The fact that they had to take it to a vote seems strange to me, but
it's good to know that 39% of the upper echelon are still anti-gay.

It's disappointing that people give as much respect to The Boy Scouts
as they do. *The organization is defective and needs new leadership
that respects and embraces the personal freedoms of its membership.

You always have the choice of joining and trying to change it
Alternately you can start something equivalent modified to meet your
standards.

Always funny to see people come along and criticize a group of people who
join together for whatever reasons , that don't meet the critics' standards.

What a bunch of homophobics. * Being a former boy scout myself many
years ago, we didn't think about it then and for all I know, perhaps
some were gay then but were in the closet. * So now it's just more
official, that's all. *For me, as long as they keep their hands off,
let it be.

Now taking to the next level, what do we do with transgenders wanting
to be in the boy scouts? * That's where I have a problem deciding.

What about paedophiles? They should be admitted also.

"Doug" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 24 May 2013 07:11:07 -0500, "Attila Iskander"
wrote:

"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"

wrote in message
news:20130523234312.18c11ed8fac99ed2d628a706@fid emturbare.com...
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:36:09 -0700
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are
still a bigoted organization.

The fact that they had to take it to a vote seems strange to me, but
it's good to know that 39% of the upper echelon are still anti-gay.

It's disappointing that people give as much respect to The Boy Scouts
as they do. The organization is defective and needs new leadership
that respects and embraces the personal freedoms of its membership.


You always have the choice of joining and trying to change it
Alternately you can start something equivalent modified to meet your
standards.

Always funny to see people come along and criticize a group of people who
join together for whatever reasons , that don't meet the critics'
standards.



What a bunch of homophobics. Being a former boy scout myself many
years ago, we didn't think about it then and for all I know, perhaps
some were gay then but were in the closet. So now it's just more
official, that's all. For me, as long as they keep their hands off,
let it be.

Now taking to the next level, what do we do with transgenders wanting
to be in the boy scouts? That's where I have a problem deciding.


So where do you draw the line ?
Because you can be sure that someone will protest your line and claim that
you're being intolerant and discriminatory doing so,.

In article ,
"Attila Iskander" wrote:

"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"
wrote in message
news:20130523234312.18c11ed8fac99ed2d628a706@fidem turbare.com...
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:36:09 -0700
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are
still a bigoted organization.

The fact that they had to take it to a vote seems strange to me, but
it's good to know that 39% of the upper echelon are still anti-gay.

It's disappointing that people give as much respect to The Boy Scouts
as they do. The organization is defective and needs new leadership
that respects and embraces the personal freedoms of its membership.


You always have the choice of joining and trying to change it
Alternately you can start something equivalent modified to meet your
standards.

Always funny to see people come along and criticize a group of people who
join together for whatever reasons , that don't meet the critics' standards.

There are people doing both. That's how we got this change in policy.

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

On Fri, 24 May 2013 07:11:07 -0500, "Attila Iskander"
wrote:

"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"
wrote in message
news:20130523234312.18c11ed8fac99ed2d628a706@fide mturbare.com...
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:36:09 -0700
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are
still a bigoted organization.

The fact that they had to take it to a vote seems strange to me, but
it's good to know that 39% of the upper echelon are still anti-gay.

It's disappointing that people give as much respect to The Boy Scouts
as they do. The organization is defective and needs new leadership
that respects and embraces the personal freedoms of its membership.


You always have the choice of joining and trying to change it
Alternately you can start something equivalent modified to meet your
standards.

We will see that happen now.

Always funny to see people come along and criticize a group of people who
join together for whatever reasons , that don't meet the critics' standards.

Lefties *NEED* to control others.

On Sat, 25 May 2013 00:00:05 -0400
wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2013 07:11:07 -0500, "Attila Iskander"
wrote:
"Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess"
wrote in message
news:20130523234312.18c11ed8fac99ed2d628a706@fide mturbare.com...
On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:36:09 -0700
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...couts-vote-to-
lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are
still a bigoted organization.

The fact that they had to take it to a vote seems strange to me,
but it's good to know that 39% of the upper echelon are still
anti-gay.

It's disappointing that people give as much respect to The Boy
Scouts as they do. The organization is defective and needs new
leadership that respects and embraces the personal freedoms of its
membership.

You always have the choice of joining and trying to change it
Alternately you can start something equivalent modified to meet your
standards.

We will see that happen now.

What's your prediction?

Always funny to see people come along and criticize a group of
people who join together for whatever reasons , that don't meet the
critics' standards.

Lefties *NEED* to control others.

You're confusing leftwing and rightwing politics.

--
Fidem Turb�re, the non-existent atheist goddess
"Go away. I'd like to forget you just the way you are."
-- Milton Berle

Fidem ?B?VHVyYsSBcmUs?= the non-existent atheist goddess
wrote in
news:20130523234312.18c11ed8fac99ed2d628a706@fidem turbare.com:

On Thu, 23 May 2013 21:36:09 -0700
Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Mitchell Holman nomailverizon.net wrote:

Boy Scouts vote to lift ban on gay youth
May 23 2013

GRAPEVINE, Texas -- The Boy Scouts of America voted
Thursday to end its controversial policy banning gay
kids and teens from joining one of the nation's most
popular youth organizations, ditching membership
guidelines that had roiled the group in recent years.
Over 61 percent of Scouting's National Council of 1,400
delegates from across the country voted to lift the ban,
BSA officials said. The final tally was 757 yes votes,
to 475 no.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...y-scouts-vote-
to- lift-ban-on-gay-youth?lite

It's about ****ing time!

Next step is to allow atheists. Until that day, the Boy Scouts are
still a bigoted organization.

The fact that they had to take it to a vote seems strange to me, but
it's good to know that 39% of the upper echelon are still anti-gay.

It's disappointing that people give as much respect to The Boy Scouts
as they do.


It doesn't really matter.

The BSA has been shrinking for decades
and it will continue to shrink.

http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2010/02...-at-100-years/