The 12" double-bevel, sliding one.

Got it unpacked and installed last night. My initial impressions a

* It's built like a tank. VERY sturdy. Sucker weighs over 50 pounds!
* It DOES have fine adjustments for setting up and guaranteeing precision
cuts.
* I can understand why it doesn't have a blade-brake. Spinning a 12" blade
at 3,800 rpm generates a LOT of momentum. To stop that much mass from
rotating would take the disk brakes off a Porsche.
* Complaints about the dust collector bag being insufficient are probably
well founded. Seemingly, the bag only catches sawdust that happens to get
flung in its direction. I suppose for really good results, you would hook up
the saw to your shop dust collector.

I haven't actually CUT anything yet, so I can't report on that. Heck, the
thing looks so pretty, I may NEVER use it. But if and when I do, I have
every expectation that it will work as advertised.

The saw is on sale today (Saturday, 3/9/2013) and tomorrow for $119.00 at
your local HF store. That is, if they have any left; on Friday, a clerk told
me it was a very popular item and going fast.

Here's the specs:
http://www.harborfreight.com/12-doub...ide-69684.html

"HeyBub" wrote:

I haven't actually CUT anything yet, so I can't report on that. Heck, the
thing looks so pretty, I may NEVER use it. But if and when I do, I have
every expectation that it will work as advertised.

I have the 12" orange motor version from a few years back. Works very well.
Found the laser sight to be of limited use, but it doesn't interfere with
anything.

On 03/09/2013 06:37 AM, HeyBub wrote:
The 12" double-bevel, sliding one.

Got it unpacked and installed last night. My initial impressions a

* It's built like a tank. VERY sturdy. Sucker weighs over 50 pounds!
* It DOES have fine adjustments for setting up and guaranteeing precision
cuts.
* I can understand why it doesn't have a blade-brake. Spinning a 12" blade
at 3,800 rpm generates a LOT of momentum. To stop that much mass from
rotating would take the disk brakes off a Porsche.
* Complaints about the dust collector bag being insufficient are probably
well founded. Seemingly, the bag only catches sawdust that happens to get
flung in its direction. I suppose for really good results, you would hook up
the saw to your shop dust collector.

I haven't actually CUT anything yet, so I can't report on that. Heck, the
thing looks so pretty, I may NEVER use it. But if and when I do, I have
every expectation that it will work as advertised.

The saw is on sale today (Saturday, 3/9/2013) and tomorrow for $119.00 at
your local HF store. That is, if they have any left; on Friday, a clerk told
me it was a very popular item and going fast.

Here's the specs:
http://www.harborfreight.com/12-doub...ide-69684.html

Remember, according to posters in this group, all of your cuts will vary
by +/- 0.25 inch, so you will end up with 1/2" of uncontrolled
variability in your cuts no matter how you set everything up! They will
also not be square!

Sarcasm aside, thanks for the update, and enjoy your saw (yes I'm a
little jealous because my orange unit isn't double bevel unit).

Jon

Good thinking.

Your finish carpentry may end up looking awful since you'll be making compound miter cuts with a hand saw, but that HF saw will stay sharp and looking gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood.

On 3/9/2013 8:37 AM, HeyBub wrote:
The 12" double-bevel, sliding one.

Got it unpacked and installed last night. My initial impressions a

* It's built like a tank. VERY sturdy. Sucker weighs over 50 pounds!
* It DOES have fine adjustments for setting up and guaranteeing precision
cuts.
* I can understand why it doesn't have a blade-brake. Spinning a 12" blade
at 3,800 rpm generates a LOT of momentum. To stop that much mass from
rotating would take the disk brakes off a Porsche.
* Complaints about the dust collector bag being insufficient are probably
well founded. Seemingly, the bag only catches sawdust that happens to get
flung in its direction. I suppose for really good results, you would hook up
the saw to your shop dust collector.

I haven't actually CUT anything yet, so I can't report on that. Heck, the
thing looks so pretty, I may NEVER use it. But if and when I do, I have
every expectation that it will work as advertised.

The saw is on sale today (Saturday, 3/9/2013) and tomorrow for $119.00 at
your local HF store. That is, if they have any left; on Friday, a clerk told
me it was a very popular item and going fast.

Here's the specs:
http://www.harborfreight.com/12-doub...ide-69684.html


If you look at their 10" sliding miter saw at
http://tinyurl.com/7f8xksq I can see that it only bevels one way and
appears to be direct drive but both motors are 15 Amp so why is it 20
pounds lighter? The 10" saw can currently be purchased for $79.99 with a
coupon and the shipping on either one is $6.99 so which is the best buy?

Don

Jon Danniken wrote:
Remember, according to posters in this group, all of your cuts will
vary by +/- 0.25 inch, so you will end up with 1/2" of uncontrolled
variability in your cuts no matter how you set everything up! They
will also not be square!

Sarcasm aside, thanks for the update, and enjoy your saw (yes I'm a
little jealous because my orange unit isn't double bevel unit).


Spent a bit of last evening reading the manual (I skipped the part that
included "no loose clothing", "do not operate in wet weather" etc.) and
learned something interesting:

With a sliding miter saw, and depth-locking capability - which this saw
has - one can make plunge dado cuts!

I guess most here would know this, or be able to figure it out with a little
use, but, to me, the idea was novel and kind of cute.

On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 08:37:44 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

The 12" double-bevel, sliding one.

Got it unpacked and installed last night. My initial impressions a

* It's built like a tank. VERY sturdy. Sucker weighs over 50 pounds!

Weight doesn't mean much.

* It DOES have fine adjustments for setting up and guaranteeing precision
cuts.

How well does it *STAY* in adjustment.

* I can understand why it doesn't have a blade-brake. Spinning a 12" blade
at 3,800 rpm generates a LOT of momentum. To stop that much mass from
rotating would take the disk brakes off a Porsche.

Nonsense. A blade brake doesn't have to be a mechanical brake. My
Bosch doesn't have discs, either.

* Complaints about the dust collector bag being insufficient are probably
well founded. Seemingly, the bag only catches sawdust that happens to get
flung in its direction. I suppose for really good results, you would hook up
the saw to your shop dust collector.

Those bags are pretty lame (even the Bosch). They're added so they
can have the marketing check box. A DC doesn't do much more, though.
The sawdust comes off the blade pretty fast. If it's not already
moving towards the port, it's not going in.

I haven't actually CUT anything yet, so I can't report on that. Heck, the
thing looks so pretty, I may NEVER use it. But if and when I do, I have
every expectation that it will work as advertised.

I'm sure it'll cut. ;-)

The saw is on sale today (Saturday, 3/9/2013) and tomorrow for $119.00 at
your local HF store. That is, if they have any left; on Friday, a clerk told
me it was a very popular item and going fast.

Here's the specs:
http://www.harborfreight.com/12-doub...ide-69684.html


Don't put your eye out!

It is a dust thrower. Hooked up my vac to it and it was almost useless. My
10" dewalt would collect most of the sawdust with the vac. Not a bad saw but
the laser is useless. It is accurate for rough work. I had hoped to get mine
accurate enough for stair treads. Best part is if it gains legs at a job
site it is not so bad a hit to take. I just use mine for occasional use,
mostly I go for the lighter 10'.

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:02:09 GMT, wrote:

It is a dust thrower. Hooked up my vac to it and it was almost useless. My
10" dewalt would collect most of the sawdust with the vac. Not a bad saw but
the laser is useless. It is accurate for rough work. I had hoped to get mine
accurate enough for stair treads. Best part is if it gains legs at a job
site it is not so bad a hit to take. I just use mine for occasional use,
mostly I go for the lighter 10'.

The dust catcher on my Bosch is pretty much useless, too. The laser
works pretty well, though. It's certainly good enough for framing. I
bought a hood for it that works well, though. I put a 5gal bucket
under it to catch all the dust.

http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/1560...pShop-Saw-Hood

I also have a 10" HF slider that I drag around outside. I have mounts
for both on a DeWalt stand that works out *really* well. I kinda
agree about it sprouting legs. I'm not afraid to drag the HF out when
it might rain, either. I'll try to cover it with a tarp but if it
doesn't work, don't care.

I have been looking at those fastcap hoods. If I have to use the 12" inside
I may go for it if they work that good.

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:10:31 GMT, wrote:

I have been looking at those fastcap hoods. If I have to use the 12" inside
I may go for it if they work that good.


It's great, AFAIC. It would work outside if it rained, too, but it
wouldn't take any wind.