My roomate lost a house key so I want to rekey all outside door locks (4 of
them). I went to home depot and found this:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051
(prime-line steel lockset re-keying kit for schlage 5-pin door locksets)

It comes with a bunch of pins and 3 pre-cut keys and cost only $13. Perfect,
I thought, until I noticed the "valleys" on the keys have very little height
variation. This means the lock would be easy to pick. I examined the other
sets and they were all similarly made. My existing house key has more height
variations.

The rekeying kit made by schlage cost $70 (!) and doesn't come with precut
keys. How do I get the keys?

Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and cost
less?

On Feb 18, 2:49*am, "bob" wrote:
My roomate lost a house key so I want to rekey all outside door locks (4 of
them). I went to home depot and found this:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...ProductDisplay...
(prime-line steel lockset re-keying kit for schlage 5-pin door locksets)

It comes with a bunch of pins and 3 pre-cut keys and cost only $13. Perfect,
I thought, until I noticed the "valleys" on the keys have very little height
variation. This means the lock would be easy to pick.

While you may see thieves picking locks to gain entry on
TV, from everything I've seen and heard over the years
it's unusual for them to do that with a typical house. The
typical urchin just doesn't have the skills or need. And
if they are that determined and skilled so that they are
going to pick a lock, then they are going to gain entry
regardless of the depth of your typical home key.. The
common ways of entering are to break a window, kick
in a door, credit card in the door jamb, etc.





I examined the other
sets and they were all similarly made. My existing house key has more height
variations.

The rekeying kit made by schlage cost $70 (!) and doesn't come with precut
keys. How do I get the keys?

Sounds like it's made for use by a locksmith who
can make the keys.




Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and cost
less?

I don't know. But your other option is to call around and
ask a few locksmiths how much they will charge you if
you bring the cylinders to them for re-keying.

Generally, you can get good, fast, cheap. Choose any two.

If you want cut keys, look on Ebay. If you want rekeyed, take the locks to a
locksmith, and pay to have them rekeyed.

If you want security, have the locksmith come out and look at the doors,
jambs, windows, etc. You might need reinforcing strikes, and some other
work.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"bob" wrote in message
...
My roomate lost a house key so I want to rekey all outside door locks (4 of
them). I went to home depot and found this:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051
(prime-line steel lockset re-keying kit for schlage 5-pin door locksets)

It comes with a bunch of pins and 3 pre-cut keys and cost only $13. Perfect,
I thought, until I noticed the "valleys" on the keys have very little height
variation. This means the lock would be easy to pick. I examined the other
sets and they were all similarly made. My existing house key has more height
variations.

The rekeying kit made by schlage cost $70 (!) and doesn't come with precut
keys. How do I get the keys?

Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and cost
less?

bob wrote:
My roomate lost a house key so I want to rekey all outside door locks
(4 of them). I went to home depot and found this:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051
(prime-line steel lockset re-keying kit for schlage 5-pin door
locksets)
It comes with a bunch of pins and 3 pre-cut keys and cost only $13.
Perfect, I thought, until I noticed the "valleys" on the keys have
very little height variation. This means the lock would be easy to
pick. I examined the other sets and they were all similarly made. My
existing house key has more height variations.

The rekeying kit made by schlage cost $70 (!) and doesn't come with
precut keys. How do I get the keys?

Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and
cost less?

Try this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRINKS-KWIKS...em1c2f89 acb3

Or, if you can find one, a re-pinning kit. It comes with about 500 pins of
varying lengths and other parts. With it you can easily re-key a lock. In
fact you can re-key a lock to take two DIFFERENT keys (say one for the
tenant and a master for the whole building).

I got mine via Ebay some time back. I think is was around $30.

On Feb 18, 8:18*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
bob wrote:
My roomate lost a house key so I want to rekey all outside door locks
(4 of them). I went to home depot and found this:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...ProductDisplay...
(prime-line steel lockset re-keying kit for schlage 5-pin door
locksets)
It comes with a bunch of pins and 3 pre-cut keys and cost only $13.
Perfect, I thought, until I noticed the "valleys" on the keys have
very little height variation. This means the lock would be easy to
pick. I examined the other sets and they were all similarly made. My
existing house key has more height variations.

The rekeying kit made by schlage cost $70 (!) and doesn't come with
precut keys. How do I get the keys?

Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and
cost less?

Try this:http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRINKS-KWIKS...BLE-5-pin-Reke...

Or, if you can find one, a re-pinning kit. It comes with about 500 pins of
varying lengths and other parts. With it you can easily re-key a lock. In
fact you can re-key a lock to take two DIFFERENT keys (say one for the
tenant and a master for the whole building).

I got mine via Ebay some time back. I think is was around $30.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That;s a good find. If you search for Schlage rekey on Ebay
there are a lot of possibilities.

dont forget the electronic push button locks, I installed one a couple
years ago its super convenient and works great.

temporary codes can easily be enabled too.......

best change I have made for many years

about a 100 bucks each although I am sure they can be bought cheaper

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:01:44 -0500, George
wrote:




Any locksmith can make keys cut to whatever pattern you want. We just
did what you are describing last year. Friend has a bigger version of
the kit you described. I wanted a master key system we determined the
patterns I needed and stopped by the local locksmith.



Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and
cost less?


Locksmiths can do all sorts of nifty things. You can categorize your
keys like we did at work. We have four levels.

A keys open everything
B keys open only the office
C keys open only shop doors
D keys open only certain doors

Only an authorized person with signature on file can have a key made.

Applying this to your house, you can segregate the garage, make the
kids (and sloppy boots) use the back door, give a neighbor access to a
vestibule while you are on vacation, etc. .

bob wrote:
My roomate lost a house key so I want to rekey all outside door locks
(4 of them). I went to home depot and found this:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051
(prime-line steel lockset re-keying kit for schlage 5-pin door
locksets)
It comes with a bunch of pins and 3 pre-cut keys and cost only $13.
Perfect, I thought, until I noticed the "valleys" on the keys have
very little height variation. This means the lock would be easy to
pick. I examined the other sets and they were all similarly made. My
existing house key has more height variations.

The rekeying kit made by schlage cost $70 (!) and doesn't come with
precut keys. How do I get the keys?

Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and
cost less?

Interesting. I had never heard about or thought about the idea of buying
one's own lock rekeying kit.

In case it helps, there is also an alt.locksmithing Usenet newsgroup, so you
may be able to get more information there. However, it is not a very active
group.

Also, I noticed at a Lowes store near me (in New Jersey) recently that they
had a sign saying they rekey locks for $5 each. You have to bring in the
lock and I think it mention 2 or 3 major brands that they do -- I think
Schlage, Kwikset, and maybe one more. I haven't tried it, but that's what
their sign said they do.

I have 3 modern-looking new Schlage locks that came with a house that I
recently bought for which I received no keys from the former owner (duh).
They are on doors on an inside foyer, so it is not a big deal right now but
I need to get keys for them. I asked while I was at a locksmith's store
recently and he said if I bring them in he would charge $15 each -- which he
said was more than normal but it's because I don't have keys to the locks,
which involves a little more work. I am mentioning that to give you an idea
of cost for rekeying by a locksmith, but also because maybe the rekeying
kits that one buys require an original key to be able to rekey the lock -- I
don't know.

As a self employed locksmith, I don't provide a lot of DIY information on
the lists. I apprenticed and trained to get the wisdom, and why give it away
for free?

Yes, it's more work to rekey locks that don't have a key to start with. But,
still much less expensive than buying new locks. I think Schlage messed up,
the newer designs are just terrible quality. The older ones were good.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..

"TomR" wrote in message
...

In case it helps, there is also an alt.locksmithing Usenet newsgroup, so you
may be able to get more information there. However, it is not a very active
group.

Also, I noticed at a Lowes store near me (in New Jersey) recently that they
had a sign saying they rekey locks for $5 each. You have to bring in the
lock and I think it mention 2 or 3 major brands that they do -- I think
Schlage, Kwikset, and maybe one more. I haven't tried it, but that's what
their sign said they do.

I have 3 modern-looking new Schlage locks that came with a house that I
recently bought for which I received no keys from the former owner (duh).
They are on doors on an inside foyer, so it is not a big deal right now but
I need to get keys for them. I asked while I was at a locksmith's store
recently and he said if I bring them in he would charge $15 each -- which he
said was more than normal but it's because I don't have keys to the locks,
which involves a little more work. I am mentioning that to give you an idea
of cost for rekeying by a locksmith, but also because maybe the rekeying
kits that one buys require an original key to be able to rekey the lock -- I
don't know.

On 2/18/2013 9:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:01:44 -0500, George
wrote:




Any locksmith can make keys cut to whatever pattern you want. We just
did what you are describing last year. Friend has a bigger version of
the kit you described. I wanted a master key system we determined the
patterns I needed and stopped by the local locksmith.



Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and
cost less?


Locksmiths can do all sorts of nifty things. You can categorize your
keys like we did at work. We have four levels.

A keys open everything
B keys open only the office
C keys open only shop doors
D keys open only certain doors

Only an authorized person with signature on file can have a key made.

Applying this to your house, you can segregate the garage, make the
kids (and sloppy boots) use the back door, give a neighbor access to a
vestibule while you are on vacation, etc. .


That is pretty much what we did. It was inexpensive to have the
locksmith cut the keys we needed.

On Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:49:34 PM UTC-8, bob wrote:
My roomate lost a house key so I want to rekey all outside door locks (4 of

them). I went to home depot and found this:



http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051

(prime-line steel lockset re-keying kit for schlage 5-pin door locksets)



It comes with a bunch of pins and 3 pre-cut keys and cost only $13. Perfect,

I thought, until I noticed the "valleys" on the keys have very little height

variation. This means the lock would be easy to pick. I examined the other

sets and they were all similarly made. My existing house key has more height

variations.



The rekeying kit made by schlage cost $70 (!) and doesn't come with precut

keys. How do I get the keys?



Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and cost

less?

This is what you need to make your own “valleys”:

http://www.lockpicks.com/browseprodu...ning-File.HTML

The more keys that a lock opens with the easier it is to pick it.

I recommend that you return everything you bought,
get back your money and buy one of these:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...w=1366&bih=602

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 23:49:34 -0800, "bob" wrote:

My roomate lost a house key so I want to rekey all outside door locks (4 of
them). I went to home depot and found this:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051
(prime-line steel lockset re-keying kit for schlage 5-pin door locksets)

It comes with a bunch of pins and 3 pre-cut keys and cost only $13. Perfect,
I thought, until I noticed the "valleys" on the keys have very little height
variation. This means the lock would be easy to pick. I examined the other
sets and they were all similarly made. My existing house key has more height
variations.

The rekeying kit made by schlage cost $70 (!) and doesn't come with precut
keys. How do I get the keys?

Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and cost
less?

It's called your local locksmith. They can usually do it for less
than the cost of the kit. I've had a "rekey" done where they just
changed one pin and recut one notch on the key. The old keys won't
work any more and I didn't need to replace the remaining good keys..
Something like $10 for one lock and 6 keys!!! (that was over 10 years
ago)

On 2/18/2013 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 23:49:34 -0800, "bob" wrote:

My roomate lost a house key so I want to rekey all outside door locks (4 of
them). I went to home depot and found this:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051
(prime-line steel lockset re-keying kit for schlage 5-pin door locksets)

It comes with a bunch of pins and 3 pre-cut keys and cost only $13. Perfect,
I thought, until I noticed the "valleys" on the keys have very little height
variation. This means the lock would be easy to pick. I examined the other
sets and they were all similarly made. My existing house key has more height
variations.

The rekeying kit made by schlage cost $70 (!) and doesn't come with precut
keys. How do I get the keys?

Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and cost
less?

It's called your local locksmith. They can usually do it for less
than the cost of the kit. I've had a "rekey" done where they just
changed one pin and recut one notch on the key. The old keys won't
work any more and I didn't need to replace the remaining good keys..
Something like $10 for one lock and 6 keys!!! (that was over 10 years
ago)

This sounds similar to what I did when one of my keys disappeared, most
probably to a friend of one of my kids. BTW, I had just replace the
handle lock and the dead bolt locks on the door, so I hated to do it
again. I took the lock out and examined the pins. I found that in one
position I could put in a long pin. I got it from the local locksmith
.... he didn't even charge me. Once the longer pin was in the lock, the
old keys no longer worked. I then set out with a mototool and file on
one of the keys. Actually, a file is really all you need as brass keys
are pretty soft. And, I made the old key work with the new pin
arrangement. I then did this to all the keys. Pretty simple.

"bob" wrote in message
...
My roomate lost a house key so I want to rekey all outside door locks (4
of them). I went to home depot and found this:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051
(prime-line steel lockset re-keying kit for schlage 5-pin door locksets)

It comes with a bunch of pins and 3 pre-cut keys and cost only $13.
Perfect, I thought, until I noticed the "valleys" on the keys have very
little height variation. This means the lock would be easy to pick. I
examined the other sets and they were all similarly made. My existing
house key has more height variations.

The rekeying kit made by schlage cost $70 (!) and doesn't come with precut
keys. How do I get the keys?

Is there a rekeying kit with pre-cut keys, strong teeth pattern, and cost
less?

Some things are best DIY. Locksmith work and brain surgery are not on the
list. If you want it done right take the locks to a locksmith in the long
run it will be cheaper and a hell of a lot less trouble.

wrote:

Or, if you can find one, a re-pinning kit. It comes with about 500
pins of varying lengths and other parts. With it you can easily
re-key a lock. In
fact you can re-key a lock to take two DIFFERENT keys (say one for
the
tenant and a master for the whole building).

I got mine via Ebay some time back. I think is was around $30.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That;s a good find. If you search for Schlage rekey on Ebay
there are a lot of possibilities.

In my case, I converted a duplex into a single family residence. This
necessitated re-keying the following locks:

Burglar bar front door - 2 locks
Burglar bar back door - 2 locks
Front door - 1 lock
Back door - 1 lock
Total: 6 locks. For 1/2 of the building. Repeat for the other side.

(There are three windows, each with one lock, on each side of the building.
I haven't bothered with them inasmuch as I can't see EVER wanting to open
the windows' burglar bars from the outside!)

So, getting the kit and putzing around for a half hour on each lock seemed
more economical than having a locksmith work his magic...

wrote:
On Feb 18, 2:49 am, "bob" wrote:
My roomate lost a house key so I want to rekey all outside door
locks (4 of them). I went to home depot and found this:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...ProductDisplay...
(prime-line steel lockset re-keying kit for schlage 5-pin door
locksets)

It comes with a bunch of pins and 3 pre-cut keys and cost only $13.
Perfect, I thought, until I noticed the "valleys" on the keys have
very little height variation. This means the lock would be easy to
pick.

While you may see thieves picking locks to gain entry on
TV, from everything I've seen and heard over the years
it's unusual for them to do that with a typical house. The
typical urchin just doesn't have the skills or need. And
if they are that determined and skilled so that they are
going to pick a lock, then they are going to gain entry
regardless of the depth of your typical home key.. The
common ways of entering are to break a window, kick
in a door, credit card in the door jamb, etc.

Now they just use a Bump Key.