Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?
--
EA

On 1/20/2013 6:26 PM, Existential Angst wrote:
Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?
Yes it can, if it carries a label that says (WOG) on it

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:26:43 -0500, "Existential Angst"
wrote:

Can a ball valve be used for nat gas?

If it has a yellow knob 1/4 turn handle.

.... in my town

On 1/20/2013 5:26 PM, Existential Angst wrote:
Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?


Ball valves are the only type I use for natural gas. NG suppliers treat
corrosive "sour gas" to keep it out of the domestic distribution
network. ^_^

http://www.naturalgas.org/naturalgas/transport.asp

TDD

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:26:43 -0500, "Existential Angst"
wrote:


Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?
Depends on the ball valve. If it is WOG rated, it is good for gas.
In SOME areas they need to have yellow handles for gas, in other areas
red is OK.. Here in Ontario any WOG rated valve is OK. Most are
certified for 600psi, which is EXTREME overkill.

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:26:43 -0500, "Existential Angst"
wrote:


Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?
Real good reason not to believe anything a Home Despot Droid tells
you.

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:26:43 -0500, "Existential Angst"
wrote:


Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?

I am assuming that you are referring to small - 1/4. 3/8. 1/2" valves
but as for the category of "ball valves" larger ones, say 2", 4", 6",
etc. are commonly used in the gas industry. In fact if memory serves
that are the valve of choice over gate valves for handling gas.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Jan 20, 5:26*pm, "Existential Angst" wrote:
Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? *Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". *Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?
--
EA

What kind of ball valve? Water shut-off valves (PVC, brass) also come
in "ball valve".

On 1/20/2013 5:37 PM, RBM wrote:
On 1/20/2013 6:26 PM, Existential Angst wrote:
Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode
black
pipe....

Opinions?
Yes it can, if it carries a label that says (WOG) on it

If memory serves me right, WOG means it's rated for Water, Oil and Gas
service which is what most of the ball valves I come across are. ^_^

TDD

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:19:29 -0500, wrote:



Depends on the ball valve. If it is WOG rated, it is good for gas.
In SOME areas they need to have yellow handles for gas, in other areas
red is OK.. Here in Ontario any WOG rated valve is OK. Most are
certified for 600psi, which is EXTREME overkill.

Not overkill at all. Sure, for natural gas, but it can be used on
high pressure oxygen, nitrogen, argon, and on and on. That same valve
will find its way to industrial applications

The DD is correct here. Any hydrogen sulfide in natural gas renders the gas "sour". Not only is sour gas dangerous because breathing in too much H2S will cause you to pass out, and if you aren't removed from the sour gas environment, you'll die after inhaling too much of it. But, pipeline companies burn some of the gas they transport in turbines to drive the natural gas through the pipeline, and when H2S burns it forms sulfuric acid which corrodes their turbine blades. So, normally, gas wells that test sour are shut in until there's enough shut in sour gas wells in an area to build a gas plant to process the gas to remove the H2S before that gas is sold and put in a pipeline. The gas you burn in your boiler, furnace or hot water heater won't have any H2S in it.

I don't see any reason not to use a ball valve on a gas line either.

"Existential Angst" wrote in message
...

Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode
black pipe....

Opinions?

Heh, rarely is there this much consensus on an issue.... LOL

I'll spray paint the handle yellow, jic...
In this case, I'm piping in my 15 kW genset, and depending on which table
you use, I am sort of squeaking by, supply-wise, so I can use every sq in of
orifice I can get. The diff between the two is quite a bit.
--
EA


--
EA

In rec.crafts.metalworking wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:26:43 -0500, "Existential Angst"
wrote:


Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?
Real good reason not to believe anything a Home Despot Droid tells
you.

there's some really sketchy stuff at HD, so the droid may have been onto
something when it comes to the stuff they sell.

My favorites are the plastic stemmed water cutoff valves for sinks and
toilets that last about 3 cycles before they somehow fall apart. The brass
nuts for the compression fittings are so thin and crappy they I've seen
some just crack and spring a leak just a few years after installation.

somebody somewhere must be proud of the cost savings they came up with.

"Cydrome Leader" wrote in message
...
In rec.crafts.metalworking wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:26:43 -0500, "Existential Angst"
wrote:


Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode
black
pipe....

Opinions?
Real good reason not to believe anything a Home Despot Droid tells
you.

there's some really sketchy stuff at HD, so the droid may have been onto
something when it comes to the stuff they sell.

My favorites are the plastic stemmed water cutoff valves for sinks and
toilets that last about 3 cycles before they somehow fall apart. The brass
nuts for the compression fittings are so thin and crappy they I've seen
some just crack and spring a leak just a few years after installation.

somebody somewhere must be proud of the cost savings they came up with.



Oh, they are proud indeed. They have whole board meetings, with actuaries
and all, to figger these consumer ass****ings out.
--
EA

On 1/20/2013 7:19 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:26:43 -0500, "Existential Angst"
wrote:


Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?
Depends on the ball valve. If it is WOG rated, it is good for gas.
In SOME areas they need to have yellow handles for gas, in other areas
red is OK.. Here in Ontario any WOG rated valve is OK. Most are
certified for 600psi, which is EXTREME overkill.

Why? It is good for "gas" which can be something else from residential
natural gas and at much higher pressure.

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 22:21:01 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:19:29 -0500, wrote:



Depends on the ball valve. If it is WOG rated, it is good for gas.
In SOME areas they need to have yellow handles for gas, in other areas
red is OK.. Here in Ontario any WOG rated valve is OK. Most are
certified for 600psi, which is EXTREME overkill.

Not overkill at all. Sure, for natural gas, but it can be used on
high pressure oxygen, nitrogen, argon, and on and on. That same valve
will find its way to industrial applications
Obviously - but we were talking natural gas applications. The
normal conical gas valves are only good for what? 45 psi???

On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 18:26:43 -0500, "Existential Angst"
wrote:


Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?

Ball valves are only for using on your balls. Use then to stop
impregnating women by shutting off your balls....

On Sunday, January 20, 2013 at 6:26:43 PM UTC-5, Grokman Grokman wrote:
Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?
--
EA

Well....The Gas is not corrosive but the additive "mercaptan" is a reactive substance due to the sulphur. This is probably what he was referring to.

On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 07:38:01 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sunday, January 20, 2013 at 6:26:43 PM UTC-5, Grokman Grokman wrote:
Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the orifice is
MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't corrode black
pipe....

Opinions?
--
EA

Well....The Gas is not corrosive but the additive "mercaptan" is a reactive substance due to the sulphur. This is probably what he was referring to.
I have several ball valves rated for water, gas, oil and air. All od
my gas shutoff valves in the house are "ball valves"

wrote:
On Sunday, January 20, 2013 at 6:26:43 PM UTC-5, Grokman Grokman
wrote:
Can a ball valve be used for nat gas? Would like to, cuz the
orifice is MUCH larger than a gas valve.
The HD guy said No, cuz "gas is corrosive". Heh, but it don't
corrode black pipe....

Opinions?
--
EA

Well....The Gas is not corrosive but the additive "mercaptan" is a
reactive substance due to the sulphur. This is probably what he was
referring to.

I used ball valves when I re-piped the gas in my house, and the inspection went
fine.