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Do Not Purchase Eset NOD32 Antivirus Software
I had purchased this software, and I found it to be useable, but quite unequal to many of the other antivirus programs out there. Furthermore, a renewal, unlike a new purchase, cost $80. So I decided to get another antivirus program. Eset does not turn off, cannot be uninstalled via the control panel, and can not be deleted. The only way to remove the program is to download the Eset uninstaller from the Eset website, go through two separate restarts, and risk damaging your computer. Had the product simply been unsatisfying, I wouldn't have said anything about it. But since the product is so difficult to remove, takes up so much disk space, slows down my computer, and constantly pops up with warnings that I have not renewed my license, I have decided that these difficulties must be a deliberate attempt to keep someone from changing to a new program. Do not buy this product, for it is terrible.
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On Dec 28, 12:46*pm, Dan Espen wrote:
writes: I had purchased this software, and I found it to be useable, but quite unequal to many of the other antivirus programs out there. Furthermore, a renewal, unlike a new purchase, cost $80. So I decided to get another antivirus program. Eset does not turn off, cannot be uninstalled via the control panel, and can not be deleted. The only way to remove the program is to download the Eset uninstaller from the Eset website, go through two separate restarts, and risk damaging your computer. Had the product simply been unsatisfying, I wouldn't have said anything about it. But since the product is so difficult to remove, takes up so much disk space, slows down my computer, and constantly pops up with warnings that I have not renewed my license, I have decided that these difficulties must be a deliberate attempt to keep someone from changing to a new program. Do not buy this product, for it is terrible. AV software? *How quaint. Try going he http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora and permanently solve your AV issues. -- Dan Espen It only solves the problem to the extent that no one is focusing on writing viruses for Fedora because the small number of users makes focusing on other OS's more productive. |
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responding to http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...re-729588-.htm
DA wrote: thewoofer wrote: I had purchased this software, and I found it to be useable, but quite unequal to many of the other antivirus programs out there. I have been using NOD32 for the last 7 or 8 years on all Windows computers I have left and cannot voice any complaint whatsoever. In fact, unlike other AV programs, I find it very light on resources which is a very good thing in Windows. As far as un-installing, all AV programs make it hard because a virus would attempt the same thing, and if you wanted to see a really hard-to-uninstall AV software, you should try Norton. Furthermore, a renewal, unlike a new purchase, cost $80. If I remember it correctly, $80 was the price for 2-year renewal, so it's technically "only" $40 per year (discounted, last time it was $55/year if you renew for 1 year only). And anyhow, everyone charges for renewals these days (I have no direct experience with free AV software though - not sure what their virus signature update policies are). -- /\_/\ ((@v@)) NIGHT ()::) OWL VV-VV |
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On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:34:40 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote: As for a replacement AV program, there are many good ones out there. I use Microsoft Security Essentials (also free) which, in any review, always ranks in the top 5. My reasoning is that Microsoft should certainly know about the internals of its own operating system thereby avoiding some of the the issues you're experiencing. MSE is great. I don't have to worry about the wife installing some odd programs. MSE killed a few creatures of the virus world. Best I've used, evva |
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"HeyBub" wrote in message m... wrote: I had purchased this software, and I found it to be useable, but quite unequal to many of the other antivirus programs out there. Furthermore, a renewal, unlike a new purchase, cost $80. So I decided to get another antivirus program. Eset does not turn off, cannot be uninstalled via the control panel, and can not be deleted. The only way to remove the program is to download the Eset uninstaller from the Eset website, go through two separate restarts, and risk damaging your computer. Had the product simply been unsatisfying, I wouldn't have said anything about it. But since the product is so difficult to remove, takes up so much disk space, slows down my computer, and constantly pops up with warnings that I have not renewed my license, I have decided that these difficulties must be a deliberate attempt to keep someone from changing to a new program. Do not buy this product, for it is terrible. You might try using Revo Uninstaller (free) to help in purging your system of this beast. As for a replacement AV program, there are many good ones out there. I use Microsoft Security Essentials (also free) which, in any review, always ranks in the top 5. My reasoning is that Microsoft should certainly know about the internals of its own operating system thereby avoiding some of the the issues you're experiencing. I agee for the same reasons. Microsoft Security Essentials and Firewall have worked for me now for the last few years in spite of several attempted virus attacks. MSE reports those so you know what happens. It also has relatively gentle reminders about doing updates and scans. Tomsic |
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"HeyBub" wrote
You might try using Revo Uninstaller (free) to help in purging your system of this beast. As for a replacement AV program, there are many good ones out there. I use Microsoft Security Essentials (also free) which, in any review, always ranks in the top 5. My reasoning is that Microsoft should certainly know about the internals of its own operating system thereby avoiding some of the the issues you're experiencing. As someone who makes a fulltime career in tech support, I agree with both your choice of Revo to uninstall and MSE as a replacement AV program. |
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David Kaye wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote You might try using Revo Uninstaller (free) to help in purging your system of this beast. As for a replacement AV program, there are many good ones out there. I use Microsoft Security Essentials (also free) which, in any review, always ranks in the top 5. My reasoning is that Microsoft should certainly know about the internals of its own operating system thereby avoiding some of the the issues you're experiencing. As someone who makes a fulltime career in tech support, I agree with both your choice of Revo to uninstall and MSE as a replacement AV program. Usually I don't like to prove a point by an "appeal to authority," but I, like you, make a living with computers. I own a small software company that specializes in inventory control. We've got over 600 users - here in the US and some exotic places (Azerbijan, Sierre Leon, French West Indies, and even Mexico!). Most, if not all, use MSE based on our recommendation. Possibly because it's free. |
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On Saturday, 29 December 2012 04:30:56 UTC+11, wrote:
I had purchased this software, and I found it to be useable, but quite unequal to many of the other antivirus programs out there. Furthermore, a renewal, unlike a new purchase, cost $80. So I decided to get another antivirus program. Eset does not turn off, cannot be uninstalled via the control panel, and can not be deleted. The only way to remove the program is to download the Eset uninstaller from the Eset website, go through two separate restarts, and risk damaging your computer. Had the product simply been unsatisfying, I wouldn't have said anything about it. But since the product is so difficult to remove, takes up so much disk space, slows down my computer, and constantly pops up with warnings that I have not renewed my license, I have decided that these difficulties must be a deliberate attempt to keep someone from changing to a new program. Do not buy this product, for it is terrible. Sure, you found this AV software as unusable. That happens, and it happens with different AV software, for many people, on various systems. Many antivirus software companies do charge for renewal, including, ESET, Avira, Kaspersky, AVG, doesn't end there. ESET does provide an uninstaller for their security software to remove it, as does, Avira, Avast!, AVG, Symantec, others too. This is not a show stopper these days. By the way the risk in damaging your computer do so ranges is the very, very unlucky side of luck. It doesn't take up much disc space at all, unless you still have a PC with a 120 Megabyte HD. When it comes to license renewal time they all show pop-ups for renewal. This products ranks well at AV-Comparitves. You do have a valid point, with your experience, that you found the product unsuable. Many other points you make are common with other well known, credible AV solutions. |
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On Friday, December 28, 2012 11:30:56 AM UTC-6, wrote:
I had purchased this software, and I found it to be useable, but quite unequal to many of the other antivirus programs out there. Furthermore, a renewal, unlike a new purchase, cost $80. So I decided to get another antivirus program. Eset does not turn off, cannot be uninstalled via the control panel, and can not be deleted. The only way to remove the program is to download the Eset uninstaller from the Eset website, go through two separate restarts, and risk damaging your computer. Had the product simply been unsatisfying, I wouldn't have said anything about it. But since the product is so difficult to remove, takes up so much disk space, slows down my computer, and constantly pops up with warnings that I have not renewed my license, I have decided that these difficulties must be a deliberate attempt to keep someone from changing to a new program. Do not buy this product, for it is terrible. I'm no expert but at this point (HS cable)...I use a hardware firewall,W7 Firewall,MSE,MalwareBytes pro. |
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Eset NOD 32 costs $59.95 for a two-year subscription for two computers.
Eset can be disabled, and in fact, has a screen to facilitate it. Eset comes with an uninstaller. Revo can also uninstall it. Eset is actually very light as a virus scanner. Has many options to make it yet lighter, but the problem is that there is then less protection. I can't imagine what version of this program you are writing about: it sounds years old. Eset has made many improvements over the years. I've used it for about 4 years and wouldn't use anything else. |
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: Eset NOD 32 costs $59.95 for a two-year subscription for two computers. Eset can be disabled, and in fact, has a screen to facilitate it. Eset comes with an uninstaller. Revo can also uninstall it. Eset is actually very light as a virus scanner. Has many options to make it yet lighter, but the problem is that there is then less protection. I can't imagine what version of this program you are writing about: it sounds years old. Eset has made many improvements over the years. I've used it for about 4 years and wouldn't use anything else. You can get several popular brand full version Internet security products for FREE is you are willing to do rebates. http://frys.com/rebates The different brands, and versions within a brand, are cycled weekly on Fridays. This week it's one of the Kaspersky versions and Bitdefender Sphere (1yr UNLIMITED number of PCs, Macs, Smartphones or Tablets). Back on a different cycle I went with Bitdefender TOTAL Security 3PC/2yr. TOTAL Security is Sphere without Macs, Smartphones or Tablets piece. With the Bitdefender products you can upgrade to whatever the current version is for the remainder of your license. |
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Only ****ing morons pay for AV. You are too stupid to be have any computer.
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A hardware Firewall doesn't do jack ****.
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On 12/7/2013 12:45 PM, Daring Dufas : Hypocrite TeaBillie on welfare wrote:
A hardware Firewall doesn't do jack ****. explain??? |
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On 12/7/2013 2:45 PM, Daring Dufas : A Sock Of Killer Loon wrote:
A hardware Firewall doesn't do jack ****. Killer Loon, living proof that human women should never have sex with farm animals. ^_^ TDD |
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On 12/7/2013 3:02 PM, mike wrote:
On 12/7/2013 12:45 PM, Daring Dufas : Hypocrite TeaBillie on welfare wrote: A hardware Firewall doesn't do jack ****. explain??? That's Killer Loon one of the operatives of the P.L.L.C.F., Progressive Liberal Leftist Commiecrat Freaks. He/she/it is a fanboy who has been using part om my nym. I would expect to find it out on the street in front of my home shouting obscenities if it actually knew where I lived. Killer Loon couldn't explain which end of its body its anus is attached to much less explain a computer system firewall or the operation of one. ^_^ TDD |
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On 12/7/2013 2:43 PM, Daring Dufas : A Sock Of Killer Loon wrote:
Only ****ing morons pay for AV. You are too stupid to be have any computer. Killer Loon, living proof that human women should never have sex with farm animals. ^_^ TDD |
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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:42:31 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote: On 12/7/2013 2:43 PM, Daring Dufas : A Sock Of Killer Loon wrote: Only ****ing morons pay for AV. You are too stupid to be have any computer. Killer Loon, living proof that human women should never have sex with farm animals. ^_^ Ignore him. Everyone else is. |
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 12:45:06 -0800 (PST), "Daring Dufas : Hypocrite
TeaBillie on welfare" wrote: A hardware Firewall doesn't do jack ****. Properly set up it will do more than ANY software firewall with less overhead/downside. |
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On 12/30/2013 7:32 AM, sms wrote:
On 12/28/2012 9:30 AM, wrote: I had purchased this software, and I found it to be useable, but quite unequal to many of the other antivirus programs out there. Furthermore, a renewal, unlike a new purchase, cost $80. So I decided to get another antivirus program. Eset does not turn off, cannot be uninstalled via the control panel, and can not be deleted. The only way to remove the program is to download the Eset uninstaller from the Eset website, go through two separate restarts, and risk damaging your computer. Had the product simply been unsatisfying, I wouldn't have said anything about it. But since the product is so difficult to remove, takes up so much disk space, slows down my computer, and constantly pops up with warnings that I have not renewed my license, I have decided that these difficulties must be a deliberate attempt to keep someone from changing to a new program. Do not buy this product, for it is terrible. What's amazing is that people are actually purchasing any anti-virus software at all for personal use. AVG, Avast, and Microsoft Security Essentials are all available at no cost. For malware, there is the free version of Malwarebytes which is excellent. Especially avoid Norton and McAfee at all costs. What I did purchase for some relatives is the paid version of Malwarebytes because it has a couple of useful features that the free version lacks, like being able to schedule scans, and real-time protection--I know that they would never manually run scans. It's $12.99 for a lifetime subscription (when it's on sale). IT does find things that the anti-virus software misses. Can't disagree with the conclusions or recommendations. But, bitching about how hard it is to remove, when they give you a utility to do so, is a bit much. Would you really want protection that could be removed by the thing it's protecting you against? |
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Linux systems can't be hacked like windows **** can.
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Defender is not a real time protection and will seldom be able to find, let alone fix viruses malware. It is too little ..too late.
If Microsoft would be held liable for the garbage they produced and the millions in lost revenue they would offer product that would be near impossible to corrupt. |
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Spybod is free and works well
I run Linux . It is faultless and practically impossible to infect. |
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Nonsense.
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Fred Smit explained on 12/30/2013 :
Linux systems can't be hacked like windows **** can. LOL |
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On 12/30/2013 6:03 PM, Fred Smit wrote:
Defender is not a real time protection and will seldom be able to find, let alone fix viruses malware. It is too little ..too late. Windows Defender definitely provides real time protection unless you opt to turn off real time protection. Programs like Malwarebytes are needed for other things. When I installed the paid version of Malwarebytes, which unlike the free version provides real-time-protection and some other features, I was shocked to see that one extremely useful piece of Freeware, that I use a lot, was frequently contacting different servers in the Ukraine. Malwarebytes blocked those attempts. If Microsoft would be held liable for the garbage they produced and the millions in lost revenue they would offer product that would be near impossible to corrupt. Ironically, one reason (of several reasons) Linux is relatively free of malware is the same reason that so many companies have thrown up their hands in despair and decided to stop supporting Linux versions of their applications. Developers need to write versions of each application or driver or malware for a specific version of a specific distribution. You can't be certain that everyone running a specific distro is going to update to the latest version with the latest kernel, even though it costs no money to do so, because all of us running Linux have been burned by doing upgrades. G-d loved Linux so much that he made hundreds of different Linuxes. http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Why-Linux-Will-Never-Suffer-From-Viruses-Like-Windows/ I dual boot Windows and Linux on all of my machines. Several of the development environments for embedded work run only under Windows. |
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On 12/30/2013 08:06 PM, Fred Smit wrote:
Nonsense. You used way too many words :-) |
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On 12/31/2013 10:09 AM, sms wrote:
[snip] I dual boot Windows and Linux on all of my machines. Several of the development environments for embedded work run only under Windows. I decided I'd rather use a VM (VirtualBox on Linux host). Then I don't have to give up Linux to do something that needs Windows. It makes it easy to do a backup of the Windows system. BTW, You can install a printer in Linux and use it with Windows too. There's also a way to use a CD writer in Windows. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us "There are scores of thousands of human insects who are ready at a moment's notice to reveal the Will of God on every possible subject." [George Bernard Shaw] |
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On 12/31/2013 4:20 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 12/31/2013 10:09 AM, sms wrote: [snip] I dual boot Windows and Linux on all of my machines. Several of the development environments for embedded work run only under Windows. I decided I'd rather use a VM (VirtualBox on Linux host). Then I don't have to give up Linux to do something that needs Windows. It makes it easy to do a backup of the Windows system. How do you keep windows activated? Seems like any change to the allocated memory size or lan configuration or virtualbox update breaks XP activation. I worry about passing some reactivation threshold and getting blacklisted as a pirate. |
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Fred Smit wrote:
Defender is not a real time protection and will seldom be able to find, let alone fix viruses malware. It is too little ..too late. If Microsoft would be held liable for the garbage they produced and the millions in lost revenue they would offer product that would be near impossible to corrupt. Had my share of troubles with nortons or symantec. My laptop would not boot. Works now after taking off comcast essentials. I loaded Microsoft security essentials. Time will tell. There is still a remnant of nortons I can't get rid of. Greg |
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On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:09:49 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
On 12/30/2013 6:03 PM, Fred Smit wrote: Defender is not a real time protection and will seldom be able to find, let alone fix viruses malware. It is too little ..too late. Windows Defender definitely provides real time protection unless you opt to turn off real time protection. Programs like Malwarebytes are needed for other things. When I installed the paid version of Malwarebytes, which unlike the free version provides real-time-protection and some other features, I was shocked to see that one extremely useful piece of Freeware, that I use a lot, was frequently contacting different servers in the Ukraine. Malwarebytes blocked those attempts. If Microsoft would be held liable for the garbage they produced and the millions in lost revenue they would offer product that would be near impossible to corrupt. Ironically, one reason (of several reasons) Linux is relatively free of malware is the same reason that so many companies have thrown up their hands in despair and decided to stop supporting Linux versions of their applications. Developers need to write versions of each application or driver or malware for a specific version of a specific distribution. You can't be certain that everyone running a specific distro is going to update to the latest version with the latest kernel, even though it costs no money to do so, because all of us running Linux have been burned by doing upgrades. G-d loved Linux so much that he made hundreds of different Linuxes. Another reason Linux isn't a target is market share. If you're writing a virus to steal information or screw up the world, it would seem your primary focus is going to be on the OS that represent the largest opportunity. |
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On 12/31/2013 4:20 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 12/31/2013 10:09 AM, sms wrote: [snip] I dual boot Windows and Linux on all of my machines. Several of the development environments for embedded work run only under Windows. I decided I'd rather use a VM (VirtualBox on Linux host). Then I don't have to give up Linux to do something that needs Windows. It makes it easy to do a backup of the Windows system. Good luck with a Virtual Machine if you're doing anything relatively complex. In November I went to an event that Nokia/Microsoft sponsored in an effort to get developers to write apps for Windows Phone. What a fiasco. The development environment required Windows 8.1 Professional. But almost no one had Windows 8.1 Professional installed. So they were explaining how to install it as as a Virtual Machine using the free VMWare client. By the time everyone had the development environment installed and working the eight hour event was over. Well that's not true, many attendees never got the development environment working. Part of the problem was the agonizingly slow network. Most events like this either explain how to get set up in advance, or provide some USB sticks with everything you need. My takeaway from that Saturday was a very nice computer daypack and the realization that Windows Phone is truly doomed because Microsoft has no idea what they're doing when it comes to creating a usable development environment. There were all sorts of little gotchas in getting apps to run under Windows 8.1 in a virtual machine, mostly related to hyperviser and Visual Studio. Microsoft has a page that explains how to do it http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/jj945426.aspx but there's critical stuff missing. |
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On 12/31/2013 10:09 AM, sms wrote:
On 12/30/2013 6:03 PM, Fred Smit wrote: Defender is not a real time protection and will seldom be able to find, let alone fix viruses malware. It is too little ..too late. Windows Defender definitely provides real time protection unless you opt to turn off real time protection. Programs like Malwarebytes are needed for other things. When I installed the paid version of Malwarebytes, which unlike the free version provides real-time-protection and some other features, I was shocked to see that one extremely useful piece of Freeware, that I use a lot, was frequently contacting different servers in the Ukraine. Malwarebytes blocked those attempts. If Microsoft would be held liable for the garbage they produced and the millions in lost revenue they would offer product that would be near impossible to corrupt. Ironically, one reason (of several reasons) Linux is relatively free of malware is the same reason that so many companies have thrown up their hands in despair and decided to stop supporting Linux versions of their applications. Developers need to write versions of each application or driver or malware for a specific version of a specific distribution. You can't be certain that everyone running a specific distro is going to update to the latest version with the latest kernel, even though it costs no money to do so, because all of us running Linux have been burned by doing upgrades. G-d loved Linux so much that he made hundreds of different Linuxes. http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Why-Linux-Will-Never-Suffer-From-Viruses-Like-Windows/ I dual boot Windows and Linux on all of my machines. Several of the development environments for embedded work run only under Windows. I like PC-BSD which is based on Free BSD but easier to install. ^_^ http://www.pcbsd.org/ TDD |
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