You fix it by finding out what is wrong with it and then making it right.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You fix it by finding out what is wrong with it and then making it right.

Do you need any tools for that? WD-40?

On 09/03/2012 10:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You fix it by finding out what is wrong with it and then making it right.

Do you need any tools for that? WD-40?



WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

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On 9/3/12 10:55 AM, Thunderstorm Norm wrote:
On 09/03/2012 10:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You fix it by finding out what is wrong with it and then making it
right.

Do you need any tools for that? WD-40?



WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

Maybe the OP's house and lawnmower are both underwater.

On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:55:08 -0400, Thunderstorm Norm
wrote:

On 09/03/2012 10:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You fix it by finding out what is wrong with it and then making it right.

Do you need any tools for that? WD-40?



WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.


From what I read this is not definitive. There is argument between
water displacement and lubricant. From my experience, it's worked
fine as a lubricant.

On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:55:08 -0400, Thunderstorm Norm wrote:

On 09/03/2012 10:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You fix it by finding out what is wrong with it and then making it right.

Do you need any tools for that? WD-40?



WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

No, it's a floor wax.

Young's Law of usenet: After Nazis have been
invoked and called forth from the spirit world,
someone is sure to mention WD-40. The debate
"is it a lubricant or water displacer" is not complete
until someone explains what the letters abbrev. for.
Points are earned by quoting usenet posters of old,
Aristotle, or your own personal experiences with
WD-40. Web pages abound, and are on topic for
the debate. Regardless of how worthy an argument
is, no one is allowed to change sides. The debate
must continue to eternity.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Thunderstorm Norm" wrote in message
...

Do you need any tools for that? WD-40?



WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

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On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:55:22 -0400 "
wrote in Message id:
:

On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:55:08 -0400, Thunderstorm Norm wrote:

On 09/03/2012 10:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You fix it by finding out what is wrong with it and then making it right.

Do you need any tools for that? WD-40?



WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

No, it's a floor wax.

I thought it was a dessert topping.

On Monday, September 3, 2012 12:43:12 PM UTC-4, Doug wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:55:08 -0400, Thunderstorm Norm
WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

From what I read this is not definitive. There is argument between
water displacement and lubricant. From my experience, it's worked
fine as a lubricant.

Why did the "WD-40" brand release a line of lubricants and penetrants if the original product were anything but a water displacement product?

On 9/5/2012 11:30 AM, wrote:
On Monday, September 3, 2012 12:43:12 PM UTC-4, Doug wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:55:08 -0400, Thunderstorm Norm
WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

From what I read this is not definitive. There is argument between
water displacement and lubricant. From my experience, it's worked
fine as a lubricant.

Why did the "WD-40" brand release a line of lubricants and penetrants if the original product were anything but a water displacement product?


Exactly, it does contradict the believers who use wd40 on everything
from zippers to deep space vehicles but what need would there be for an
actual line of lubricants if wd40 did everything?

In article , George
wrote:

On 9/5/2012 11:30 AM, wrote:
On Monday, September 3, 2012 12:43:12 PM UTC-4, Doug wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:55:08 -0400, Thunderstorm Norm
WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

From what I read this is not definitive. There is argument between
water displacement and lubricant. From my experience, it's worked
fine as a lubricant.

Why did the "WD-40" brand release a line of lubricants and penetrants if
the original product were anything but a water displacement product?


Exactly, it does contradict the believers who use wd40 on everything
from zippers to deep space vehicles but what need would there be for an
actual line of lubricants if wd40 did everything?

Same reason there are 37 varieties of coke. Same reason Bayer ("No
additives! Pure!") and Bufferin ("Won't upset your stomach like plain
aspirin!") are made by the same company.

IOW, WD-40 is a lubricant, and believers buy it for a lubricant. The
other products they make are marketed to those who don't believe the
original is a lubricant.

On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:30:35 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Monday, September 3, 2012 12:43:12 PM UTC-4, Doug wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:55:08 -0400, Thunderstorm Norm
WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

From what I read this is not definitive. There is argument between
water displacement and lubricant. From my experience, it's worked
fine as a lubricant.

Why did the "WD-40" brand release a line of lubricants and penetrants if the original product were anything but a water displacement product?


Note that you said "line" of lubricants. No one is best for
everything. All lube makers have many to choose from.

On Sep 5, 12:34*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , George
wrote:





On 9/5/2012 11:30 AM, wrote:
On Monday, September 3, 2012 12:43:12 PM UTC-4, Doug wrote:
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:55:08 -0400, Thunderstorm Norm
WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

*From what I read this is not definitive. * There is argument between
water displacement and lubricant. * From my experience, it's worked
fine as a lubricant.

Why did the "WD-40" brand release a line of lubricants and penetrants if
the original product were anything but a water displacement product?

Exactly, it does contradict the believers who use wd40 on everything
from zippers to deep space vehicles but what need would there be for an
actual line of lubricants if wd40 did everything?

Same reason there are 37 varieties of coke. Same reason Bayer ("No
additives! Pure!") and Bufferin ("Won't upset your stomach like plain
aspirin!") are made by the same company.

IOW, WD-40 is a lubricant, and believers buy it for a lubricant. The
other products they make are marketed to those who don't believe the
original is a lubricant.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Bottom line (for me) is that WD-40 works (for me) in a number of
applications - preventing rust, stopping squeaks, removing adhesives,
etc.

Personally, I don't care if it's officially/technically/scientifically
classified as a lubricant or a water displacement product or a
mouthwash.

It does what I need it to do when used for the applications I know it
works in.

It's similar to the situation with Ronsonol Lighter Fluid. Ronson
International doesn't list it as an "adhesive remover" but it works
just as well, if not better, than WD-40, although it is a bit more
expensive. I use WD-40 when I don't care if the item gets "greasy" but
for more delicate stuff, I use Ronsonol Lighter Fluid.

The constant debate as to whether WD-40 is a lubricant or not seems
like such a waste of time (to me).

In article
,
DerbyDad03 wrote:

The constant debate as to whether WD-40 is a lubricant or not seems
like such a waste of time (to me).

According to the MSDS, the debate is *not* a waste of time!

On Sep 6, 1:22*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,

*DerbyDad03 wrote:
The constant debate as to whether WD-40 is a lubricant or not seems
like such a waste of time (to me).

According to the MSDS, the debate is *not* a waste of time!

Allow me to reiterate:

The debate "seems like such a waste of time (to me)."

By that I mean that I don't care who calls it what. I'll continue to
use it for the applications in which it produces the results I'm
looking for.

On 09/06/2012 01:01 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:


It's similar to the situation with Ronsonol Lighter Fluid. Ronson
International doesn't list it as an "adhesive remover" but it works
just as well, if not better, than WD-40, although it is a bit more
expensive. I use WD-40 when I don't care if the item gets "greasy" but
for more delicate stuff, I use Ronsonol Lighter Fluid.

The constant debate as to whether WD-40 is a lubricant or not seems
like such a waste of time (to me).


A lubricant is a substance introduced to reduce friction between moving
surfaces. It may also have the function of transporting foreign
particles. The property of reducing friction is known as lubricity.

On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:01:58 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:



The constant debate as to whether WD-40 is a lubricant or not seems
like such a waste of time (to me).

Certainly is to me too. It is a lubricant, as is just about any
liquid. Water is a lubricant too. Like all lubes, it shines in some
places, not so good in others.

If a poster asks about lubricating something, it is OK to suggest
other lubricants that are better suited, but to deny WD-40 is a lube
is cause to flunk high school chemistry.

In article
,
DerbyDad03 wrote:

On Sep 6, 1:22*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,

*DerbyDad03 wrote:
The constant debate as to whether WD-40 is a lubricant or not seems
like such a waste of time (to me).

According to the MSDS, the debate is *not* a waste of time!

Allow me to reiterate:

The debate "seems like such a waste of time (to me)."

By that I mean that I don't care who calls it what. I'll continue to
use it for the applications in which it produces the results I'm
looking for.

Just messing with you, changing up the debate about lubrication to one
about the value of debate itself. FWIW, I'm in the lubrication camp. The
**** has worked on everything I've tried it on in the last 40 years.

On Sep 10, 4:00*am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,





*DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sep 6, 1:22*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,

*DerbyDad03 wrote:
The constant debate as to whether WD-40 is a lubricant or not seems
like such a waste of time (to me).

According to the MSDS, the debate is *not* a waste of time!

Allow me to reiterate:

The debate "seems like such a waste of time (to me)."

By that I mean that I don't care who calls it what. I'll continue to
use it for the applications in which it produces the results I'm
looking for.

Just messing with you, changing up the debate about lubrication to one
about the value of debate itself. FWIW, I'm in the lubrication camp. The
**** has worked on everything I've tried it on in the last 40 years.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't think you were messing with me. Let's debate that. ;-)

On 09/03/2012 08:59 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 9/3/12 10:55 AM, Thunderstorm Norm wrote:
On 09/03/2012 10:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You fix it by finding out what is wrong with it and then making it
right.

Do you need any tools for that? WD-40?



WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

Maybe the OP's house and lawnmower are both underwater.

I'm contacting my lawyer; you all owe me a new kb!

Jon

Young's Law of usenet: After Nazis have been
invoked and called forth from the spirit world,
someone is sure to mention WD-40. The debate
"is it a lubricant or water displacer" is not complete
until someone explains what the letters abbrev. for.
Points are earned by quoting usenet posters of old,
Aristotle, or your own personal experiences with
WD-40. Web pages abound, and are on topic for
the debate. Regardless of how worthy an argument
is, no one is allowed to change sides. The debate
must continue to eternity.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On Sep 10, 1:28*pm, Jon Danniken
wrote:
On 09/03/2012 08:59 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 9/3/12 10:55 AM, Thunderstorm Norm wrote:
On 09/03/2012 10:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You fix it by finding out what is wrong with it and then making it
right.

Do you need any tools for that? WD-40?

WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

* * Maybe the OP's house and lawnmower are both underwater.

I'm contacting my lawyer; you all owe me a new kb!

Jon

Discussion subject changed to "how do you fix a keyboard with coffee
spewed into it?" by Jon Danniken

Use CD-40.

It will both lubricate the keyboard and disburse the coffee.

"DerbyDad03" wrote

Use CD-40.

It will both lubricate the keyboard and disburse the coffee.


The solution is simple: Buy a new keyboard. Big Lots and other stores that
sell discontinued items usually has keyboards for sale for less than $15.

Yeah, you can fix the keyboard. What I'd do is soak the keyboard in very
warm but not hot water, shake it around in the water so that the water gets
in everywhere. Then I'd IMMEDIATELY dry it out in the sun for half an hour
and then in a nice warm area for several days, such as putting it in the
shade or indoors next to a heating duct. It works as long as you dry it
fast enough.

On Sep 10, 3:49*pm, "David Kaye" wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote

Use CD-40.

It will both lubricate the keyboard and disburse the coffee.

The solution is simple: *Buy a new keyboard. *Big Lots and other stores that
sell discontinued items usually has keyboards for sale for less than $15.

Yeah, you can fix the keyboard. *What I'd do is soak the keyboard in very
warm but not hot water, shake it around in the water so that the water gets
in everywhere. *Then I'd IMMEDIATELY dry it out in the sun for half an hour
and then in a nice warm area for several days, such as putting it in the
shade or indoors next to a heating duct. *It works as long as you dry it
fast enough.

"The solution is simple:"

The situation was facetious.

Try to follow along...

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:30:14 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Sep 10, 3:49*pm, "David Kaye" wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote

Use CD-40.

It will both lubricate the keyboard and disburse the coffee.

The solution is simple: *Buy a new keyboard. *Big Lots and other stores that
sell discontinued items usually has keyboards for sale for less than $15.

Yeah, you can fix the keyboard. *What I'd do is soak the keyboard in very
warm but not hot water, shake it around in the water so that the water gets
in everywhere. *Then I'd IMMEDIATELY dry it out in the sun for half an hour
and then in a nice warm area for several days, such as putting it in the
shade or indoors next to a heating duct. *It works as long as you dry it
fast enough.

"The solution is simple:"

The situation was facetious.

Try to follow along...

Right! Put the keyboard in the dishwasher.

"David Kaye" wrote in message
...
"DerbyDad03" wrote

Use CD-40.

It will both lubricate the keyboard and disburse the coffee.


The solution is simple: Buy a new keyboard. Big Lots and other stores
that sell discontinued items usually has keyboards for sale for less than
$15.



Spray the keyboard with all the WD40 that is in the house. Throw that away
and go to Office Depot. They have keyboards for less than $ 10 and some for
less than $ 12.

You know, that's cute. CD-40.

BTW, disburse, is similar to distribue. A quartermaster disburses supplies
to the troops. The word you seek is "disperse" which means to separate, and
scatter. "Disperse, ye rebels!" said the British officer.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
...

Discussion subject changed to "how do you fix a keyboard with coffee
spewed into it?" by Jon Danniken

Use CD-40.

It will both lubricate the keyboard and disburse the coffee.

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sep 10, 1:28 pm, Jon Danniken
wrote:
On 09/03/2012 08:59 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 9/3/12 10:55 AM, Thunderstorm Norm wrote:
On 09/03/2012 10:08 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

You fix it by finding out what is wrong with it and then making it
right.

Do you need any tools for that? WD-40?

WD-40 is a water displacement fluid.

Maybe the OP's house and lawnmower are both underwater.

I'm contacting my lawyer; you all owe me a new kb!

Jon

Discussion subject changed to "how do you fix a keyboard with coffee
spewed into it?" by Jon Danniken

Use CD-40.

It will both lubricate the keyboard and disburse the coffee.

Wd-40 does displace water. If contaminants are spewn on a keyboard, first
thing to do is spew generous amounts of water. That said, after washing off
with water blow away as much water off as possible. I do spray on wd-40
often anyway, or better crc 2-26. Either before or after, I use warm air to
heat boards up, often placing under 100 watt light bulb.

Oil floats on water. It will works it's way in after the water dries.

Greg

"Oren" wrote


Right! Put the keyboard in the dishwasher.

I'm quite serious about soaking the keyboard in very warm water, swishing it
around, then drying it quickly. I've saved at least 2 desktop keyboards
that way and probably 5 or 6 laptop membrane keyboards. I do this kind of
stuff for a living.

Be careful of what chemical you use because some will dissolve plastic or weaken it. 90% pure isopropyl alcohol is safe, but don't use anything oily, like WD-40. Don't put the keyboard in the dishwasher because water and detergent can stay trapped under silicone rubber key cups or clear flexible membrane circuit boards.

Hold the keyboard long side up over a sink or some paper towels, with the keys slightly forward of vertical, and spray alcohol into it, starting at the top and working down. Keep doing that until the liquid comes out clear. Let the keyboard dry in that position or with the keys facing down for several hours in a warm room or in a car parked in the sun with the windows rolled up almost all the way.

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:24:21 -0700, "David Kaye"
wrote:

"Oren" wrote


Right! Put the keyboard in the dishwasher.

I'm quite serious about soaking the keyboard in very warm water, swishing it
around, then drying it quickly. I've saved at least 2 desktop keyboards
that way and probably 5 or 6 laptop membrane keyboards. I do this kind of
stuff for a living.



I was serious about the dishwasher for PS2 or USB keyboards (always
have a backup to use).

Do you use water on wireless keyboards?