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center screw on phone junction block grounded ... why?
In my house the phone wires come into the basement (from the
externally-mounted demarcation box) to a junction block that looks like this one: http://thisishowweparty.com/img/dmarc1.jpg (This isn't mine, it's illustrating an unrelated post that I happened to find. It's also referenced he http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23986992) On mine, the phone wires are joined under the outboard nuts. On the one in the picture, there aren't any phone wires. But on this one, as on mine, the centre screw is grounded (on mine, to the copper water pipe, near where the electrical service is grounded). But the block is of some composite material and there is no obvious connection from either wire terminal to that centre screw. So what the heck's the point of grounding it? I'd like to remove, or at least relocate, this block and modernize the phone cabling.Are devices like this still current? If not, what's the "current" correct replacement device? Thanks, Chip C Toronto |
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center screw on phone junction block grounded ... why?
On 6/18/2012 5:43 PM, Chip C wrote:
In my house the phone wires come into the basement (from the externally-mounted demarcation box) to a junction block that looks like this one: http://thisishowweparty.com/img/dmarc1.jpg (This isn't mine, it's illustrating an unrelated post that I happened to find. It's also referenced he http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23986992) On mine, the phone wires are joined under the outboard nuts. On the one in the picture, there aren't any phone wires. But on this one, as on mine, the centre screw is grounded (on mine, to the copper water pipe, near where the electrical service is grounded). But the block is of some composite material and there is no obvious connection from either wire terminal to that centre screw. So what the heck's the point of grounding it? I'd like to remove, or at least relocate, this block and modernize the phone cabling.Are devices like this still current? If not, what's the "current" correct replacement device? Thanks, Chip C Toronto If you backed out one of those screws you would find the obvious connection. There is a carbon spark gap under each screw. Those carbon spark gap protectors are still in use for old inside demarc points. |
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center screw on phone junction block grounded ... why?
Chip C wrote:
In my house the phone wires come into the basement (from the externally-mounted demarcation box) to a junction block that looks like this one: http://thisishowweparty.com/img/dmarc1.jpg (This isn't mine, it's illustrating an unrelated post that I happened to find. It's also referenced he http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23986992) On mine, the phone wires are joined under the outboard nuts. On the one in the picture, there aren't any phone wires. But on this one, as on mine, the centre screw is grounded (on mine, to the copper water pipe, near where the electrical service is grounded). But the block is of some composite material and there is no obvious connection from either wire terminal to that centre screw. So what the heck's the point of grounding it? I'd like to remove, or at least relocate, this block and modernize the phone cabling.Are devices like this still current? If not, what's the "current" correct replacement device? Thanks, Chip C Toronto The old phones had the third wire ground, go to the phone. To my knowledge, new phones don't use it locally. I used to put movs from two outer to ground for protection. Greg |
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center screw on phone junction block grounded ... why?
On Jun 18, 2:43*pm, Chip C wrote:
In my house the phone wires come into the basement (from the externally-mounted demarcation box) to a junction block that looks like this one: http://thisishowweparty.com/img/dmarc1.jpg (This isn't mine, it's illustrating an unrelated post that I happened to find. It's also referenced hehttp://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23986992) On mine, the phone wires are joined under the outboard nuts. On the one in the picture, there aren't any phone wires. But on this one, as on mine, the centre screw is grounded (on mine, to the copper water pipe, near where the electrical service is grounded). But the block is of some composite material and there is no obvious connection from either wire terminal to that centre screw. So what the heck's the point of grounding it? I'd like to remove, or at least relocate, this block and modernize the phone cabling.Are devices like this still current? If not, what's the "current" correct replacement device? Thanks, Chip C Toronto that ugly thing serves a function, don't remove without replacing with 'better' setup. |
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center screw on phone junction block grounded ... why?
On Jun 18, 7:57*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:43:39 -0700 (PDT), Chip C wrote: In my house the phone wires come into the basement (from the externally-mounted demarcation box) to a junction block that looks like this one: http://thisishowweparty.com/img/dmarc1.jpg (This isn't mine, it's illustrating an unrelated post that I happened to find. It's also referenced hehttp://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23986992) On mine, the phone wires are joined under the outboard nuts. On the one in the picture, there aren't any phone wires. But on this one, as on mine, the centre screw is grounded (on mine, to the copper water pipe, near where the electrical service is grounded). But the block is of some composite material and there is no obvious connection from either wire terminal to that centre screw. So what the heck's the point of grounding it? I'd like to remove, or at least relocate, this block and modernize the phone cabling.Are devices like this still current? If not, what's the "current" correct replacement device? Thanks, Chip C Toronto That is the old style surge protector. It was good enough to save a POTS phone that was not connected to anything else. Some telcos swapped the carbon protectors with gas protectors (under the screws George was talking about) but if you have anything electronic hooked to the phone line, you need more robust protection, connected to your electrical service grounding electrode- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - +1 |
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center screw on phone junction block grounded ... why?
On 6/18/2012 4:43 PM, Chip C wrote:
In my house the phone wires come into the basement (from the externally-mounted demarcation box) to a junction block that looks like this one: http://thisishowweparty.com/img/dmarc1.jpg (This isn't mine, it's illustrating an unrelated post that I happened to find. It's also referenced he http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23986992) On mine, the phone wires are joined under the outboard nuts. On the one in the picture, there aren't any phone wires. But on this one, as on mine, the centre screw is grounded (on mine, to the copper water pipe, near where the electrical service is grounded). But the block is of some composite material and there is no obvious connection from either wire terminal to that centre screw. So what the heck's the point of grounding it? I'd like to remove, or at least relocate, this block and modernize the phone cabling.Are devices like this still current? If not, what's the "current" correct replacement device? Thanks, Chip C Toronto That block is called a Lightning Arrestor. The name is self explanatory but if you want to know more see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_arrester. LdB |
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