I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal traps
for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?

On Sep 22, 9:08 am, "bob" wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal traps
for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?

Andy comments:

I've use electricity to dig for worms... No reason it shouldn't work
on
other things....... But , be AWARE,.... it won't meet code......

Andy in Eureka, Texas

bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough
to annoy the mole so it would leave?

Think cat.

bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough
to annoy the mole so it would leave?

Research shows that Washington state bans the lethal trapping of fur-bearing
animals (no joke). Apparently this law encompases moles, rats, mice,
beavers, wolverines, otters, bears, and the duckbill platypus. Your, then,
choices seem to be:

1. Use a non-lethal trap. Harbor Freight has a small one for not much.
2. Ignore the law.

Of course if you choose option #1, you'll have to visit what to DO with Mr
Mole.

Do you know your state legislator's home address?

On 9/22/2011 10:08 AM, bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?


Been a long time since I've had moles but I last used a poison with a
phosphide in it. See such poisons are still around, maybe your hardware
store will have.

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/hi...lb-p-1790.html

Can't imagine a state inspector checking for mole traps.

On 9/22/2011 12:21 PM, Frank wrote:
On 9/22/2011 10:08 AM, bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong
enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?


Been a long time since I've had moles but I last used a poison with a
phosphide in it. See such poisons are still around, maybe your
hardware store will have.

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/hi...lb-p-1790.html


Can't imagine a state inspector checking for mole traps.

No, but your neighbors can and will report you after their kid or a
neighborhood pet ends up suffering a mishap with your trap. Sorry,
I've heard way too many grisly stories coming about from inexperienced
people (read:homeowners) using traps and poisons. Too often, they end
up injuring or killing something unanticipated, sometimes in a very
disturbing manner.

Heard first hand from the idiots who admitted to doing it: a woman
spreading strychnine in her vegetable garden to kill the birds and
critters; a guy who took a shot at a squirrel in his yard, but missed,
and blew apart a bird feeder two homes over; another woman who used
leg-hold traps in her garden and complained about the noise and the
damaged caused by the crying raccoon who went around and round in
circles, trying get away from the trap and flattening everything
within its path. And she complained that she couldn't figure out how
to get her trap back from the pain-crazed raccoon, either.

Assholes, all of them. Glad they didn't live in my neighborhood.

On Sep 22, 2:51*pm, Hell Toupee wrote:
On 9/22/2011 12:21 PM, Frank wrote:





On 9/22/2011 10:08 AM, bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong
enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?

Been a long time since I've had moles but I last used a poison with a
phosphide in it. See such poisons are still around, maybe your
hardware store will have.

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/hi...er-bait-zinc-p...

Can't imagine a state inspector checking for mole traps.

No, but your neighbors can and will report you after their kid or a
neighborhood pet ends up suffering a mishap with your trap. Sorry,
I've heard way too many grisly stories coming about from inexperienced
people (read:homeowners) using traps and poisons. Too often, they end
up injuring or killing something unanticipated, sometimes in a very
disturbing manner.

Heard first hand from the idiots who admitted to doing it: a woman
spreading strychnine in her vegetable garden to kill the birds and
critters; a guy who took a shot at a squirrel in his yard, but missed,
and blew apart a bird feeder two homes over; another woman who used
leg-hold traps in her garden and complained about the noise and the
damaged caused by the crying raccoon who went around and round in
circles, trying get away from the trap and flattening everything
within its path. And she complained that she couldn't figure out how
to get her trap back from the pain-crazed raccoon, either.

Assholes, all of them. Glad they didn't live in my neighborhood.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I've used that zinc phospate successfully. It's criticized a bit but
I carefully place it in the burrows and cover them back up to help
prevent other animals from getting at it.

"HeyBub" writes:

bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough
to annoy the mole so it would leave?

Research shows that Washington state bans the lethal trapping of fur-bearing
animals (no joke). Apparently this law encompases moles, rats, mice,
beavers, wolverines, otters, bears, and the duckbill platypus. Your, then,
choices seem to be:

1. Use a non-lethal trap. Harbor Freight has a small one for not much.
2. Ignore the law.

Of course if you choose option #1, you'll have to visit what to DO with Mr
Mole.

Do you know your state legislator's home address?

It's any Good Americans right to assume the worst of government.
The more idiotic the claim sounds, the more quickly it is believed.


http://wdfw.wa.gov/living/moles.html#legal

Legal Status

Moles are unclassified and people may trap or kill moles on their own
property when they are causing damage to crops, domestic animals, or
their property (RCW 77.36.030). With the passing of Initiative 713,
given their body-gripping design, traditionally used mole traps are no
longer legal for use in Washington (RCW 77.15.192, 77.15.194; WAC
232-12-142). There are no exceptions for emergencies and no provisions
that allow WDFW to issue verbal approval or special permits.

Sounds like you just need to buy a legal trap.

I'd go for the fumigation route. That's what worked for me.
Light a little cube and throw it in the hole.

--
Dan Espen

wrote:
"HeyBub" writes:

bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong
enough to annoy the mole so it would leave?

Research shows that Washington state bans the lethal trapping of
fur-bearing animals (no joke). Apparently this law encompases moles,
rats, mice, beavers, wolverines, otters, bears, and the duckbill
platypus. Your, then, choices seem to be:

1. Use a non-lethal trap. Harbor Freight has a small one for not
much.
2. Ignore the law.

Of course if you choose option #1, you'll have to visit what to DO
with Mr Mole.

Do you know your state legislator's home address?

It's any Good Americans right to assume the worst of government.
The more idiotic the claim sounds, the more quickly it is believed.



Hey, I didn't make that up!

I got it off the internet.

On Sep 22, 9:08*am, "bob" wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal traps
for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?

Why bother?
FWIW, here's my story...some years ago we noted some mole tunnel
eruptions growing in our lawn, sometimes a dozen feet at a time. We
asked an old timer what to do, and his reply was to wait a while and
see what happened. In a few weeks the tunneling slowed, then stopped.
Our advisor said succinctly, "They ate all grubs that were there, now
they're off for a better food source". Since they haven't been back
for nearly two decades he must have been right.

Joe

bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal traps
for moles.

can you live trap the moles and set them free at the Capitol?

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?

nope.

"bob" wrote in message
...
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal traps
for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?

1/2 TSP of gasoline into the burrow, (dig up, identify positively, clear out
so fumes go all around) works in my zip code. Notice I capitalized TSP. It
just takes a tad.

Steve

"RobertPatrick" wrote in message
eb.com...
"bob" wrote in :

I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough
to annoy the mole so it would leave?


Mole Chaser Windmill

http://reviews.northerntool.com/0394...ndmill-covers-
100ft-diameter-reviews/reviews.htm

and

http://www.amazon.com/Chaser-Windmil.../dp/B0000AXDTQ

Eliminate moles quickly and easily without batteries or electricity. Wind
powered lawn fan creates a constant vibration to effectively and humanely
rid your yard of moles.

It only covers 100 ft. diameter. I never used one of these so I don't
know
if it works.

Just snake oil: http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn74115.html

Walter

www.rationality.net

"RobertPatrick" wrote in message
eb.com...
"bob" wrote in :

I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough
to annoy the mole so it would leave?


Mole Chaser Windmill

http://reviews.northerntool.com/0394...ndmill-covers-
100ft-diameter-reviews/reviews.htm

and

http://www.amazon.com/Chaser-Windmil.../dp/B0000AXDTQ

Eliminate moles quickly and easily without batteries or electricity. Wind
powered lawn fan creates a constant vibration to effectively and humanely
rid your yard of moles.

It only covers 100 ft. diameter. I never used one of these so I don't
know
if it works.

Just snake oil: http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn74115.html

Walter

www.rationality.net

On 9/22/2011 3:52 PM, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Sep 22, 2:51 pm, Hell wrote:
On 9/22/2011 12:21 PM, Frank wrote:





On 9/22/2011 10:08 AM, bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong
enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?

Been a long time since I've had moles but I last used a poison with a
phosphide in it. See such poisons are still around, maybe your
hardware store will have.

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/hi...er-bait-zinc-p...

Can't imagine a state inspector checking for mole traps.

No, but your neighbors can and will report you after their kid or a
neighborhood pet ends up suffering a mishap with your trap. Sorry,
I've heard way too many grisly stories coming about from inexperienced
people (read:homeowners) using traps and poisons. Too often, they end
up injuring or killing something unanticipated, sometimes in a very
disturbing manner.

Heard first hand from the idiots who admitted to doing it: a woman
spreading strychnine in her vegetable garden to kill the birds and
critters; a guy who took a shot at a squirrel in his yard, but missed,
and blew apart a bird feeder two homes over; another woman who used
leg-hold traps in her garden and complained about the noise and the
damaged caused by the crying raccoon who went around and round in
circles, trying get away from the trap and flattening everything
within its path. And she complained that she couldn't figure out how
to get her trap back from the pain-crazed raccoon, either.

Assholes, all of them. Glad they didn't live in my neighborhood.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I've used that zinc phospate successfully. It's criticized a bit but
I carefully place it in the burrows and cover them back up to help
prevent other animals from getting at it.

Its "phosphide" and as I suspected, when ingested, it generates
phosphine which is a highly poisonous gas but it does it in the stomach
of the rodent and a dog or kid would have to dig up the poison and
consume it and these things are formulated so it tastes good to rodents
but not other animals or people.

Us ignorant homeowners have been using these things safely for years but
today's current mentality is not to trust us and allow access only to
professionals.

Steve B wrote:
"bob" wrote in message
...
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong
enough to annoy the mole so it would leave?

1/2 TSP of gasoline into the burrow, (dig up, identify positively,
clear out so fumes go all around) works in my zip code. Notice I
capitalized TSP. It just takes a tad.


A half-cup of calcium carbide down the hole followed by a generous squirt of
water. Cover hole. Wait.

Uncover hole and, standing some distance away, fling a lit match in the
opening.

I don't know whether the ensuing explosion will bother Mr Mole, but it
certainly is exciting to watch.

On Sep 22, 10:08*am, "bob" wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal traps
for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?

Attach there food source, grubs and crickets and the like. Got rid of
mine with Spectrocide.

Jimmie

"HeyBub" wrote in news:5vidnYNIAvkb-
:

bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough
to annoy the mole so it would leave?

Think cat.



Personal story.

Homes along woods edge so, of course, mole problem. Someone dumped a male
cat. Very friendly (stand on hind legs and push head into your hand) but
spraying around yards in it's quest for food. Probably why it was dumped
by someone ignorant of the animals genetics. Neighbors hated and chased
it away because the cat itself stunk from spraying. Having cats all my
life I knew this was a good cat personality wise. Took it, had it fixed
and all shots.

Cat NEVER messed in the house it's entire life. Extreme person cat. Kids
would roller blade with cat in their arms and cat liked it - never tried
to get away. I'm working in yard moving wheelbarrows of dirt. Cat jumps
in while I'm walking load of dirt and sits for a ride. Many many such
stories.

As for the moles. Totally cleaned up yard of moles. For quite some time,
many remains outside front door until he ran out of targets. Then he went
and cleaned up the neighbors yard. OK, cat not perfect. Brought those
those to our door as well. Cheerio became the neighborhood hero. People
welcomed him to patrol their yard.

He has since passed but not forgotten.

http://oi53.tinypic.com/23w477c.jpg

As for the moles. Totally cleaned up yard of moles. For quite some time,
many remains outside front door until he ran out of targets. Then he went
and cleaned up the neighbors yard. OK, cat not perfect. Brought those
those to our door as well. Cheerio became the neighborhood hero. People
welcomed him to patrol their yard.

Our two terrifying hunting dogs (One a poodle/terrier, the other a
shihtzu/fence jumper) are always on the hunt. At first it was amusing.
Then they started catching things. They cornered three chipmunks under the
lawnmower the other day, so I lifted up the lawnmower. All three made a
clean escape with the dogs not seeing one of them. Then, the other night, I
go in for bed. SWMBO is on computer. Dead juvenile jackrabbit on bedroom
floor. Quickly shuffle it off to secret location outside. Sometimes they
can go a little too far. Lucky SWMBO didn't see it, or they'd be throw
pillows on the couch by now. She freaks at mice and chipmunks they bring
in. Sometimes not totally dead.

Steve

bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?


The neighbor's little terrier dog got the mole in my yard. Dug it out
shook it a few times and no more Mr. Mole.

"Fatter Than Ever Moe" HardTimes@TheFarm wrote in message
...
bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal traps
for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?


The neighbor's little terrier dog got the mole in my yard. Dug it out
shook it a few times and no more Mr. Mole.

My little poodle/terrier is vicious on small animals. I caught one in my
Macabee gopher trap, and wanted to see what the dogs would do. One sniffed
it and walked off. The other ripped it from the trap and slung it side to
side about six times in .5 seconds. She digs and digs trying to get them,
but as yet hasn't gotten one by digging. Ours don't come above ground a
lot, but I suspect if they do, they're goners. Now they have moved up to
chipmunks, squirrels, and jackrabbits. Vicious dogs, but the cat still
kicks their butts and makes them yell, and they know better than mess with
any cat. But they have picked up the stalking technique by watching the
cat. Hope they get better on gophers.

Steve

Steve B wrote:
"Fatter Than Ever Moe" HardTimes@TheFarm wrote in message
...
bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong
enough to annoy the mole so it would leave?


The neighbor's little terrier dog got the mole in my yard. Dug it
out shook it a few times and no more Mr. Mole.

My little poodle/terrier is vicious on small animals. I caught one
in my Macabee gopher trap, and wanted to see what the dogs would do. One
sniffed it and walked off. The other ripped it from the trap and
slung it side to side about six times in .5 seconds. She digs and
digs trying to get them, but as yet hasn't gotten one by digging. Ours
don't come above ground a lot, but I suspect if they do, they're
goners. Now they have moved up to chipmunks, squirrels, and
jackrabbits. Vicious dogs, but the cat still kicks their butts and
makes them yell, and they know better than mess with any cat. But
they have picked up the stalking technique by watching the cat. Hope
they get better on gophers.

The stalking technique helps, but dogs can't see squat at night. Further,
they're genetically programmed to hunt in packs.

Cats, on the other hand, are solitary hunters, superbly equipped for that
role. It is said that a house cat catches its prey* one out of every three
leaps. That's a pretty good average.

-------
* Mouse, lizard, grasshopper, mole, bird, snake, rat, or any of over 1,000
other critters. See "Towser," the current Guiness record holder for the
title of best mouser.

"HeyBub" wrote in
m:

Steve B wrote:
"Fatter Than Ever Moe" HardTimes@TheFarm wrote in message
...
bob wrote:
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong
enough to annoy the mole so it would leave?


The neighbor's little terrier dog got the mole in my yard. Dug it
out shook it a few times and no more Mr. Mole.

My little poodle/terrier is vicious on small animals. I caught one
in my Macabee gopher trap, and wanted to see what the dogs would do.
One sniffed it and walked off. The other ripped it from the trap and
slung it side to side about six times in .5 seconds. She digs and
digs trying to get them, but as yet hasn't gotten one by digging.
Ours don't come above ground a lot, but I suspect if they do, they're
goners. Now they have moved up to chipmunks, squirrels, and
jackrabbits. Vicious dogs, but the cat still kicks their butts and
makes them yell, and they know better than mess with any cat. But
they have picked up the stalking technique by watching the cat. Hope
they get better on gophers.

The stalking technique helps, but dogs can't see squat at night.
Further, they're genetically programmed to hunt in packs.

Cats, on the other hand, are solitary hunters, superbly equipped for
that role. It is said that a house cat catches its prey* one out of
every three leaps. That's a pretty good average.

And very patient. They will sit for hours and just wait on a known path.


-------
* Mouse, lizard, grasshopper, mole, bird, snake, rat, or any of over
1,000 other critters. See "Towser," the current Guiness record holder
for the title of best mouser.

"bob" wrote in message
...
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal traps
for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?


Get rid of the grubs, the mole (s) will leave afterwards.

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:57:27 -0400, "Eddie" wrote:


"bob" wrote in message
...
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal traps
for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?


Get rid of the grubs, the mole (s) will leave afterwards.


Doesn't salt get the grubs real fast.
I remember they sort of sizzled when salted.

"Eddie" wrote in :


"bob" wrote in message
...
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal
traps for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough
to annoy the mole so it would leave?


Get rid of the grubs, the mole (s) will leave afterwards.




For the most part true. An extension service told me when they can't get
grubs they will go for worms though. Guess to them the grubs are like hot
wings to humans.

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:01:51 -0400, joevan wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:57:27 -0400, "Eddie" wrote:


"bob" wrote in message
...
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal traps
for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?


Get rid of the grubs, the mole (s) will leave afterwards.


Doesn't salt get the grubs real fast.
I remember they sort of sizzled when salted.

Perhaps you're thinking about slugs?

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:30:02 -0500, "
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:01:51 -0400, joevan wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:57:27 -0400, "Eddie" wrote:


"bob" wrote in message
...
I have mole mounts in my lawn. Unfortunately, our state bans lethal traps
for moles.

I have tried mole poison, mole smoke bomb and neither worked.

Has anyone tried passing electric current into the soil strong enough to
annoy the mole so it would leave?


Get rid of the grubs, the mole (s) will leave afterwards.


Doesn't salt get the grubs real fast.
I remember they sort of sizzled when salted.

Perhaps you're thinking about slugs?
I reckon so. Yep that seems more likely.