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I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. |
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On 9/11/2011 9:44 AM, millinghill wrote:
Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. Spray foam (automotive) adhesive -- |
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On Sep 11, 10:52*am, dpb wrote:
On 9/11/2011 9:44 AM, millinghill wrote: Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. *The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". *I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. *If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. *But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? *Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. *Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. Spray foam (automotive) adhesive -- Given the cost of similar insulation at HD, I would not go through the trouble of trying to join two split pieces. Just not worth it. Buy the 1" ones. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 08:02:51 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Sep 11, 10:52*am, dpb wrote: On 9/11/2011 9:44 AM, millinghill wrote: Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. *The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". *I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. *If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. *But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? *Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. *Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. Spray foam (automotive) adhesive -- Given the cost of similar insulation at HD, I would not go through the trouble of trying to join two split pieces. Just not worth it. Buy the 1" ones. I was thinking the same thing. Lots of work for little money, and by the time all the glue/tape is purchased, why bother. Give or sell the 1/2 inch stuff to someone else and buy what you need. In a normal house, the cold water pipes are 3/4 inch (Inside Dia). You didn't say if you have copper, plastic or galv steel pipe, but be sure to get the right size. You could have actual 1 inch ID pipe, but my bet is it's 3/4 inch. |
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millinghill wrote:
Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. If you find a good commercial plumbing supply house near you that will sell to the public, they will likely have what you want. It probably won't be super cheap, but it will fit properly and last. If you've seen a place with a big yard outside of 20 foot lengths of all kinds of pipe, including big diameters, that might be the place. |
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On 09/11/2011 11:02 AM, Bob F wrote:
millinghill wrote: Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. If you find a good commercial plumbing supply house near you that will sell to the public, they will likely have what you want. It probably won't be super cheap, but it will fit properly and last. If you've seen a place with a big yard outside of 20 foot lengths of all kinds of pipe, including big diameters, that might be the place. Lowe's sells 1" split pipe insulation, I was just there this morning. I interpreted the OP's post to mean that he wanted to use what he had rather than having to buy more new stuff. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:24:04 -0400, Nate Nagel
wrote: On 09/11/2011 11:02 AM, Bob F wrote: millinghill wrote: Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. If you find a good commercial plumbing supply house near you that will sell to the public, they will likely have what you want. It probably won't be super cheap, but it will fit properly and last. If you've seen a place with a big yard outside of 20 foot lengths of all kinds of pipe, including big diameters, that might be the place. Lowe's sells 1" split pipe insulation, I was just there this morning. I interpreted the OP's post to mean that he wanted to use what he had rather than having to buy more new stuff. nate What he needs to buy in order to use what he has will likely cost as much as buying what he needs - and he'll still have the old stuff left for another job (or to put on his hot water lines) |
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millinghill wrote the following:
Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. I use the 3M clear duct tape. It lasts much longer and doesn't dry out or delaminate like the grey stuff. I have had the foam covering all the cold water lines in my basement for years, and the clear duct tape is still holding. I've even used it outside and it's gone through hot summers and cold winters without deteriorating. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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willshak wrote:
millinghill wrote the following: Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. I use the 3M clear duct tape. It lasts much longer and doesn't dry out or delaminate like the grey stuff. I have had the foam covering all the cold water lines in my basement for years, and the clear duct tape is still holding. I've even used it outside and it's gone through hot summers and cold winters without deteriorating. Thanks. That might help with a couple trouble spots I have on bends. |
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On Sep 11, 10:44*am, millinghill wrote:
Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. *The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". *I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. *If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. *But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? *Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. *Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. Tie wraps. |
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On 9/11/2011 10:44 AM, Ron wrote:
On Sep 11, 10:44 am, wrote: Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. Tie wraps. There is an adhesive made for this stuff: http://www.armaflex.com/www/armacell/INETFAQ.nsf/IDP/1D63FFFF98977B238025709E000CB18D |
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On 09/11/2011 10:44 AM, millinghill wrote:
Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. I've used electrical tape in the past, works well. You don't have to wrap the insulation completely, just make a spiral around it or for long perfectly straight runs just a ring around it every couple feet. In fact, I was going to do same thing you're doing this afternoon, but for different reasons (energy savings, and in the interest of bringing as much hot water as possible to the shower - both I and roommate subscribe to the "set the shower to 'third degree burn' and then dial it back two notches" method of setting water temperature...) I did some insulating in my parents' basement w/ that split pipe insulation stuff and 3M electrical tape maybe 20 years ago for reasons of condensation (incoming water pipe from a very deep well) and as far as I know it's still in place. I got all fancy with mitering the corners and such to make it look nice ![]() nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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The electric tape spiral works, for me. There is now wide,
black tape that is UV resistant. For outdoor use, probably not an issue in a cellar. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Nate Nagel" wrote in message ... I've used electrical tape in the past, works well. You don't have to wrap the insulation completely, just make a spiral around it or for long perfectly straight runs just a ring around it every couple feet. In fact, I was going to do same thing you're doing this afternoon, but for different reasons (energy savings, and in the interest of bringing as much hot water as possible to the shower - both I and roommate subscribe to the "set the shower to 'third degree burn' and then dial it back two notches" method of setting water temperature...) I did some insulating in my parents' basement w/ that split pipe insulation stuff and 3M electrical tape maybe 20 years ago for reasons of condensation (incoming water pipe from a very deep well) and as far as I know it's still in place. I got all fancy with mitering the corners and such to make it look nice ![]() nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |
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On Sep 11, 10:44*am, millinghill wrote:
Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. *The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". *I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. *If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. *But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? *Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. *Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. @Theodo Cutting pipe insulation that is designed for 1/2" pipe in half will not adapt it to fit pipes that are 1"... You will have two pieces that will not even touch when on the pipe... You would have to scoop out the material on each half of the insulation so that it fits a 1" pipe... Go to a supply house or home center and purchase what you actually need... ~~ Evan |
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Evan wrote:
On Sep 11, 10:44 am, millinghill wrote: Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. @Theodo Cutting pipe insulation that is designed for 1/2" pipe in half will not adapt it to fit pipes that are 1"... You will have two pieces that will not even touch when on the pipe... You would have to scoop out the material on each half of the insulation so that it fits a 1" pipe... Good point, since he wants to cure condensation. Any air leaks at all will just contilue the condensation, but slow it drying out, which may result in mold or mildew. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:44:34 -0700 (PDT), millinghill
wrote: Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. Buy the same stuff made for 1" pipe. It is readily available from good plumbing and building supply houses. |
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:44:34 -0700 (PDT), millinghill
wrote: Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. Pool Noodles are going on sale soon. Dense foam. Some that are 3/4" core in the center. You have the split them with razor blade. http://cdn.nexternal.com/poolcenter/images/wacky-swimming-pool-noodles-3819.jpg They don't have to be black :-/ |
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Pool noodles also good (when split properly) for low
doorways, where you hit your head. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Oren" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 07:44:34 -0700 (PDT), millinghill wrote: Hi. I've lots of that black foam rubber pipe insulation, but it's for 1/2" diameter. The (cold water) pipes I need to insulate are 1". I want to insulate them to prevent consdensation in my basement. If I split two of them down the middle, it will cover the 1" pipe. But what do I seal/glue/tape it with? Duct tape will just get old and unstick after a few months/years. Any ideas? Advice appreciated. Thanks Theodore. Pool Noodles are going on sale soon. Dense foam. Some that are 3/4" core in the center. You have the split them with razor blade. http://cdn.nexternal.com/poolcenter/images/wacky-swimming-pool-noodles-3819.jpg They don't have to be black :-/ |
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