A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. I'm wondering what
kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black paint might have been
used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...plumbing-pipe-
shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

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Best regards
Han
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On 16 Aug 2011 21:18:52 GMT, Han wrote:

A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. I'm wondering what
kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black paint might have been
used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...plumbing-pipe-
shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

Looks pretty good.
Pipe flanges, T's and 90 degreee els.
The T's make it a bit "clunky."
I would have used couplings under the shelves and cleated the wall to
hold the back of the shelves.
Black or galvanized when clean hold paint well.
Wipe the pipe with spirits, then wash with soap/water.
Any paint will stick well and not flake.
Dressing the floor flange holes and covering exposed threads is the
toughest part to make it look "neat."
But if you do too much it won't look like plumbing any more,
Maybe the T's are a good idea.
I kinda like it the way it is.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote in
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On 16 Aug 2011 21:18:52 GMT, Han wrote:

A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. I'm wondering
what kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black paint might have
been used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...iy-plumbing-pi
pe- shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

Looks pretty good.
Pipe flanges, T's and 90 degreee els.
The T's make it a bit "clunky."
I would have used couplings under the shelves and cleated the wall to
hold the back of the shelves.
Black or galvanized when clean hold paint well.
Wipe the pipe with spirits, then wash with soap/water.
Any paint will stick well and not flake.
Dressing the floor flange holes and covering exposed threads is the
toughest part to make it look "neat."
But if you do too much it won't look like plumbing any more,
Maybe the T's are a good idea.
I kinda like it the way it is.

--Vic

Thanks, Vic!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 8/16/2011 6:47 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On 16 Aug 2011 21:18:52 GMT, wrote:

A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. I'm wondering what
kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black paint might have been
used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...plumbing-pipe-
shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

Looks pretty good.
Pipe flanges, T's and 90 degreee els.
The T's make it a bit "clunky."
I would have used couplings under the shelves and cleated the wall to
hold the back of the shelves.
Black or galvanized when clean hold paint well.
Wipe the pipe with spirits, then wash with soap/water.
Any paint will stick well and not flake.
Dressing the floor flange holes and covering exposed threads is the
toughest part to make it look "neat."
But if you do too much it won't look like plumbing any more,
Maybe the T's are a good idea.
I kinda like it the way it is.

--Vic

Arrgh- accidently did a direct reply again...

Stove or engine paint comes to mind, and what he said about the
degreasing part. Scuffing with a green scrubby pad helps, as well. Pipe
was a standard way to make institutional/industrial rails and racking
for many years. They also have pretty and lightweight modern materials
used for making commercial rails for raised platforms, and knockdown
frames for the tarps used on fancy yachts in winter. The pipes slide in,
and you tighten hex-cap setscrews in the fittings to hold them. Plumbing
dept will be a lot cheaper, though. Note that you can pre-paint the
pipes and fittings, and even bake them, if you can be careful during
assembly. May have to touch up a scratch here and there, but a lot less
messy that painting in place. Or if you are rich, take them down to
local hot-rod or marine place, and get them powder-coated.

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aem sends...

In article ,
Han wrote:

A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. I'm wondering what
kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black paint might have been
used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...plumbing-pipe-
shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

Why does the author of the article find it so amazing - get ready - that
the price tag was $200?

As far as paint flaking off, it's all about surface prep and choosing a
primer appropriate for the substrate.

On Aug 16, 6:47*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On 16 Aug 2011 21:18:52 GMT, Han wrote:

A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. *I'm wondering what
kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black paint might have been
used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...diy-plumbing-p....
shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

Looks pretty good.
Pipe flanges, T's and 90 degreee els.
The T's make it a bit "clunky."
I would have used couplings under the shelves and cleated the wall to
hold the back of the shelves.

I didn't read the associated article, but those shelves appear to be
freestanding. I think they just lean against the wall.

I also question the stated cost of $200. Buying just the steel from
the Borg would probably cost more, nevermind the wood.

R

Smitty Two wrote in
news
In article ,
Han wrote:

A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. I'm wondering
what kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black paint might
have been used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...diy-plumbing-p
ipe- shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

Why does the author of the article find it so amazing - get ready -
that the price tag was $200?

I would have no idea of the costs. A friend posted that his bookcases
hadn't survived his move from NYC to Grinnell. And asked for cheap ways
to get new bookcases. This link was 1 of his replies, and I thought it
cute, for some people. Just questioned how to reliably paint it, and I
got most of my answers - THANKS ALL!!

As far as paint flaking off, it's all about surface prep and choosing
a primer appropriate for the substrate.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 06:30:52 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
wrote:

On Aug 16, 6:47Â*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On 16 Aug 2011 21:18:52 GMT, Han wrote:

A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. Â*I'm wondering what
kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black paint might have been
used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...diy-plumbing-p...
shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

Looks pretty good.
Pipe flanges, T's and 90 degreee els.
The T's make it a bit "clunky."
I would have used couplings under the shelves and cleated the wall to
hold the back of the shelves.

I didn't read the associated article, but those shelves appear to be
freestanding. I think they just lean against the wall.


Top flanges most likely screwed into the wall.
Only way you'd get me near it.

I also question the stated cost of $200. Buying just the steel from
the Borg would probably cost more, nevermind the wood.

For 1/2" black from HD website.

18 ELS 1.20 (21.60)
14 T'S 1.50 (21.00)
8 FLANGES 3.73 (29.84)
18 10" NIPPLES 2.55 (45.90)
32-40' PIPE 11.62 X 4 (10'S) 46.48

Total 164.82

More than I thought it would be.
But that's cutting/threading the verticals yourself from the 10's.
Probably hit +$200 to get it all at threaded lengths.
Good reason to have dies if you do much of this.
Then you'd knock down the nipple cost too.
3/4" would cost roughly 33% more, putting cost higher.
Not really practical. Just for looks and the hell of it.
But that's one strong shelf frame.

--Vic

On 17 Aug 2011 14:48:24 GMT, Han wrote:

Smitty Two wrote in
news
In article ,
Han wrote:

A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. I'm wondering
what kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black paint might
have been used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...diy-plumbing-p
ipe- shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

Why does the author of the article find it so amazing - get ready -
that the price tag was $200?

I would have no idea of the costs. A friend posted that his bookcases
hadn't survived his move from NYC to Grinnell. And asked for cheap ways
to get new bookcases. This link was 1 of his replies, and I thought it
cute, for some people. Just questioned how to reliably paint it, and I
got most of my answers - THANKS ALL!!


Whoa there. You trying to kill this thread?

--Vic

On Aug 17, 11:16*am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 06:30:52 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour









wrote:
On Aug 16, 6:47*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On 16 Aug 2011 21:18:52 GMT, Han wrote:

A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. *I'm wondering what
kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black paint might have been
used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...diy-plumbing-p...
shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

Looks pretty good.
Pipe flanges, T's and 90 degreee els.
The T's make it a bit "clunky."
I would have used couplings under the shelves and cleated the wall to
hold the back of the shelves.

I didn't read the associated article, but those shelves appear to be
freestanding. *I think they just lean against the wall.

Top flanges most likely screwed into the wall.
Only way you'd get me near it.

I also question the stated cost of $200. *Buying just the steel from
the Borg would probably cost more, nevermind the wood.

For 1/2" black from HD website.

18 ELS 1.20 (21.60)
14 T'S 1.50 (21.00)
8 FLANGES 3.73 (29.84)
18 10" NIPPLES 2.55 (45.90)
32-40' PIPE 11.62 X 4 (10'S) 46.48

Total 164.82

More than I thought it would be.
But that's cutting/threading the verticals yourself from the 10's.
Probably hit +$200 to get it all at threaded lengths.
Good reason to have dies if you do much of this.
Then you'd knock down the nipple cost too.
3/4" would cost roughly 33% more, putting cost higher.
Not really practical. *Just for looks and the hell of it.
But that's one strong shelf frame.

I like the looks of it, but there's a bit of fudging about costs.
What do 10'(?) 1x12s cost? Stain, etc.

I like that there's minimal attachment to the wall. With the right
rubber pads on the bottom flanges to protect the floor, and only 4
holes high up on the wall in a less noticeable area, it's almost
perfect for a tenant. Collapsible and probably comparable in weight
to a simple wooden bookshelf. Though once the black iron got painted
and/or the threads rusted together, getting it apart wouldn't be so
easy.

What's your guess on the load that 3/4" Ts can take with a 12" shelf
support arm?

R

Vic Smith wrote in
:

On 17 Aug 2011 14:48:24 GMT, Han wrote:

Smitty Two wrote in
news
In article ,
Han wrote:

A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. I'm
wondering what kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black
paint might have been used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week
after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...s-diy-plumbing
-pipe- shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

Why does the author of the article find it so amazing - get ready -
that the price tag was $200?

I would have no idea of the costs. A friend posted that his bookcases
hadn't survived his move from NYC to Grinnell. And asked for cheap
ways to get new bookcases. This link was 1 of his replies, and I
thought it cute, for some people. Just questioned how to reliably
paint it, and I got most of my answers - THANKS ALL!!


Whoa there. You trying to kill this thread?

--Vic

Not all. One question hasn't been nswered yet - what paint?
Rustoleum??


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 8/17/2011 8:30 AM, Vic Smith wrote:
On 17 Aug 2011 14:48:24 GMT, wrote:

Smitty wrote in
news
In ,
wrote:

A friend got this link to a cute modernistic bookcase. I'm wondering
what kind of pipe and fittings and what kind of black paint might
have been used, so the paint doesn't flake of 1 week after set up.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/chic...diy-plumbing-p
ipe- shelving-097760
or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycac3oz

Why does the author of the article find it so amazing - get ready -
that the price tag was $200?

I would have no idea of the costs. A friend posted that his bookcases
hadn't survived his move from NYC to Grinnell. And asked for cheap ways
to get new bookcases. This link was 1 of his replies, and I thought it
cute, for some people. Just questioned how to reliably paint it, and I
got most of my answers - THANKS ALL!!


Whoa there. You trying to kill this thread?

--Vic

rustoleum epoxy appliance paint. very hard after thoroughly curing.
comes in only a few colors, but gloss black is one of them.

On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:31:04 -0700 (PDT), RicodJour
wrote:



What's your guess on the load that 3/4" Ts can take with a 12" shelf
support arm?


Maybe 250-300 lbs on the outer end of a single T before it cracks.
Less over time before it fatigues and cracks.
Just a guess.
You're not supposed to do that.
But it would be fun.

--Vic

On 17 Aug 2011 16:09:26 GMT, Han wrote:


Not all. One question hasn't been nswered yet - what paint?
Rustoleum??

Whatever paint suits your fancy.
It's just pipe, and it's inside and dry.
Any paint will work.
Rustoleum is fine.
Any time I want a good glossy finish on metal I use canned automotive
spray paint, but maybe the brush-on enamels level out better now.
Besides, pipe isn't smooth anyway - it's a bit bumpy.
So brushing on Rustoleum should work fine.
Maybe better than spray if it levels well.

--Vic

chaniarts wrote in news:j2gp92$vev$2@dont-
email.me:

rustoleum epoxy appliance paint. very hard after thoroughly curing.
comes in only a few colors, but gloss black is one of them.

Thanks!!

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Best regards
Han
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