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"D.A. Tsenuf" wrote in message .. . "Steve B" wrote in message . .. "D.A. Tsenuf" wrote So you don't even know what a "pressure tank", used in a well system is ? Why don't you look it up and then come back to us... (what a maroon)... Well, I always thought that in order for a pressure tank to work, there had to be some room for the pressure. Since most liquids are not compressible, that would require an airspace or a tank that expands, at least according to my thinking. IIRC, a lot of tanks have bladders or airspaces. I do know that air hammer reliefs are common to deal with air in water systems. Well there you go You actually knew the answer all along. So why spew so much ignorant cant ? You have also gotten way away from the original topic, that being of how to pressurize a tank for remote use. You say that you can just put pressure in there with no air space. I say that the tank would burst before it could hold enough pressure to even void itself of its contents. A pressure tank is pre-charged with a bladder separating the wet from the air side. I never stated ANYTHING about air space and the rest of your presumptions Perhaps you could share some of your infinite knowledge, providing you are educated enough to put your thoughts into words so that we of the unwashed rabble might read them and ponder your take on this. OR, you could quote this entire conversation with no snippage, just scores of lines of discussion with a two sentence reply that offers no information whatsoever on the original question, indicating either a lack of knowledge of the subject, or a lack of knowledge of how to conduct a social conversation. Your pick, Sparky. I may be a Sparky, but then even a wet match qualifies compared to you. I am so sorry that you have not discovered to wonders of search engines on the internet Why don't you try your faverite one with the following "precharged pressure tank". Hell, even just plain "pressure tank" will point you in the right direction. Now, I could be entirely wrong. And I would much rather hear you explaining why I am wrong, and what the correct answer is than using insults or words that I do not comprehend. I'm so sorry that words like "pressure tank" are beyond your (claimed) ken. What is a maroon? I mean, I know it is an adjective to describe color, but I have not seen it used as a noun. Maybe you will get to that in next year's English, provided you take another year of English. It's a reference to a quote by a famous cartoon character As to my education in the Queen's English, it's probably more extensive than yours. You may (or may not) notice above that is what I have done in answer to your adolescent response to my request for clarification of this concept. You will notice I am asking for other's opinions, a common thing for intelligent sensible educated people to do. I was also asking for more information, and an explanation. You sure use lots of words to state and demonstrate that you're clueless As to wanting an explanation. That's highly doubtful People who want info state their problem and then let others do the talking The exact opposite of what you have done. Have a nice day. Oh and thanks for demonstrating that you do qualify for that quote by Bugs Bunny "What a maroon" indeed... I rest my case. If you follow back, you will find it was YOU who said I needed to google up the information. When I did, you did a 180. You were the writer who seemed to think a tank could be filled with enough water to spray by itself with no airspace. Stupid is as stupid writes. You may go now. Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote in message
... "D.A. Tsenuf" wrote in message .. . "Steve B" wrote in message . .. "D.A. Tsenuf" wrote So you don't even know what a "pressure tank", used in a well system is ? Why don't you look it up and then come back to us... (what a maroon)... Well, I always thought that in order for a pressure tank to work, there had to be some room for the pressure. Since most liquids are not compressible, that would require an airspace or a tank that expands, at least according to my thinking. IIRC, a lot of tanks have bladders or airspaces. I do know that air hammer reliefs are common to deal with air in water systems. Well there you go You actually knew the answer all along. So why spew so much ignorant cant ? You have also gotten way away from the original topic, that being of how to pressurize a tank for remote use. You say that you can just put pressure in there with no air space. I say that the tank would burst before it could hold enough pressure to even void itself of its contents. A pressure tank is pre-charged with a bladder separating the wet from the air side. I never stated ANYTHING about air space and the rest of your presumptions Perhaps you could share some of your infinite knowledge, providing you are educated enough to put your thoughts into words so that we of the unwashed rabble might read them and ponder your take on this. OR, you could quote this entire conversation with no snippage, just scores of lines of discussion with a two sentence reply that offers no information whatsoever on the original question, indicating either a lack of knowledge of the subject, or a lack of knowledge of how to conduct a social conversation. Your pick, Sparky. I may be a Sparky, but then even a wet match qualifies compared to you. I am so sorry that you have not discovered to wonders of search engines on the internet Why don't you try your faverite one with the following "precharged pressure tank". Hell, even just plain "pressure tank" will point you in the right direction. Now, I could be entirely wrong. And I would much rather hear you explaining why I am wrong, and what the correct answer is than using insults or words that I do not comprehend. I'm so sorry that words like "pressure tank" are beyond your (claimed) ken. What is a maroon? I mean, I know it is an adjective to describe color, but I have not seen it used as a noun. Maybe you will get to that in next year's English, provided you take another year of English. It's a reference to a quote by a famous cartoon character As to my education in the Queen's English, it's probably more extensive than yours. You may (or may not) notice above that is what I have done in answer to your adolescent response to my request for clarification of this concept. You will notice I am asking for other's opinions, a common thing for intelligent sensible educated people to do. I was also asking for more information, and an explanation. You sure use lots of words to state and demonstrate that you're clueless As to wanting an explanation. That's highly doubtful People who want info state their problem and then let others do the talking The exact opposite of what you have done. Have a nice day. Oh and thanks for demonstrating that you do qualify for that quote by Bugs Bunny "What a maroon" indeed... I rest my case. If you follow back, you will find it was YOU who said I needed to google up the information. When I did, you did a 180. You were the writer who seemed to think a tank could be filled with enough water to spray by itself with no airspace. Now where did I make ANY comment about a tank that could " spray by itself with no airspace." Oh wait, I made no such statements.. That was YOU making a stupid assumption I am in NO WAY responsible for YOUR stupid presumptions and assumptions Stupid is as stupid writes. Yes indeed One has to wonder why you need to do so over and over. Not to mention continue when your nonsense has been brought to light.. You may go now. Steve Thank you for proving that you're not only stupid but arrogant too. Makes me think of that Bertrand Russel's saying about the ignorant... |
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Steve B wrote:
"D.A. Tsenuf" wrote in message .. . "Steve B" wrote in message . .. "D.A. Tsenuf" wrote So you don't even know what a "pressure tank", used in a well system is ? Why don't you look it up and then come back to us... (what a maroon)... Well, I always thought that in order for a pressure tank to work, there had to be some room for the pressure. Since most liquids are not compressible, that would require an airspace or a tank that expands, at least according to my thinking. IIRC, a lot of tanks have bladders or airspaces. I do know that air hammer reliefs are common to deal with air in water systems. Well there you go You actually knew the answer all along. So why spew so much ignorant cant ? You have also gotten way away from the original topic, that being of how to pressurize a tank for remote use. You say that you can just put pressure in there with no air space. I say that the tank would burst before it could hold enough pressure to even void itself of its contents. A pressure tank is pre-charged with a bladder separating the wet from the air side. I never stated ANYTHING about air space and the rest of your presumptions Perhaps you could share some of your infinite knowledge, providing you are educated enough to put your thoughts into words so that we of the unwashed rabble might read them and ponder your take on this. OR, you could quote this entire conversation with no snippage, just scores of lines of discussion with a two sentence reply that offers no information whatsoever on the original question, indicating either a lack of knowledge of the subject, or a lack of knowledge of how to conduct a social conversation. Your pick, Sparky. I may be a Sparky, but then even a wet match qualifies compared to you. I am so sorry that you have not discovered to wonders of search engines on the internet Why don't you try your faverite one with the following "precharged pressure tank". Hell, even just plain "pressure tank" will point you in the right direction. Now, I could be entirely wrong. And I would much rather hear you explaining why I am wrong, and what the correct answer is than using insults or words that I do not comprehend. I'm so sorry that words like "pressure tank" are beyond your (claimed) ken. What is a maroon? I mean, I know it is an adjective to describe color, but I have not seen it used as a noun. Maybe you will get to that in next year's English, provided you take another year of English. It's a reference to a quote by a famous cartoon character As to my education in the Queen's English, it's probably more extensive than yours. You may (or may not) notice above that is what I have done in answer to your adolescent response to my request for clarification of this concept. You will notice I am asking for other's opinions, a common thing for intelligent sensible educated people to do. I was also asking for more information, and an explanation. You sure use lots of words to state and demonstrate that you're clueless As to wanting an explanation. That's highly doubtful People who want info state their problem and then let others do the talking The exact opposite of what you have done. Have a nice day. Oh and thanks for demonstrating that you do qualify for that quote by Bugs Bunny "What a maroon" indeed... I rest my case. If you follow back, you will find it was YOU who said I needed to google up the information. When I did, you did a 180. You were the writer who seemed to think a tank could be filled with enough water to spray by itself with no airspace. Here is what he wrote: "Would one of those pressure tanks for wells work better ? Just charge it up close attached (by you) faucet and you're ready to go." You have made it clear that you fail to understand how that works. That came through clear in your first reply No need need to repeat |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 10:22:29 -0500, "D.A. Tsenuf"
wrote: Now where did I make ANY comment about a tank that could " spray by itself with no airspace." Oh wait, I made no such statements.. That was YOU making a stupid assumption The problem here is the OP didn't know about the bladdered tanks used in well water systems. I didn't either since I've never encountered them. Anyway, a suitable fire extinguisher is probably more practical to put out cotton fires. Anybody care to hear my "big wrench" story? The wrench weighed about 500 pounds. Slugging wrench of course. --Vic |
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"Steve B" wrote in message
. .. "D.A. Tsenuf" wrote So you don't even know what a "pressure tank", used in a well system is ? Why don't you look it up and then come back to us... (what a maroon)... Well, I always thought that in order for a pressure tank to work, there had to be some room for the pressure. Since most liquids are not compressible, that would require an airspace or a tank that expands, at least according to my thinking. IIRC, a lot of tanks have bladders or airspaces. I do know that air hammer reliefs are common to deal with air in water systems. You have also gotten way away from the original topic, that being of how to pressurize a tank for remote use. You say that you can just put pressure in there with no air space. I say that the tank would burst before it could hold enough pressure to even void itself of its contents. Perhaps you could share some of your infinite knowledge, providing you are educated enough to put your thoughts into words so that we of the unwashed rabble might read them and ponder your take on this. OR, you could quote this entire conversation with no snippage, just scores of lines of discussion with a two sentence reply that offers no information whatsoever on the original question, indicating either a lack of knowledge of the subject, or a lack of knowledge of how to conduct a social conversation. Your pick, Sparky. Now, I could be entirely wrong. And I would much rather hear you explaining why I am wrong, and what the correct answer is than using insults or words that I do not comprehend. What is a maroon? I mean, I know it is an adjective to describe color, but I have not seen it used as a noun. Maybe you will get to that in next year's English, provided you take another year of English. You may (or may not) notice above that is what I have done in answer to your adolescent response to my request for clarification of this concept. You will notice I am asking for other's opinions, a common thing for intelligent sensible educated people to do. I was also asking for more information, and an explanation. Steve A household type well pressure tank has a bladder in it. You put water in which compresses the air behind the bladder. Its ideally suited for holding water and delivering it as thousands of average people are capable of using them to problem free for years on end to provide water to their homes from their private well. While the OP was not particularly nice about it, a pressure tank would work admirable well for this applications I suspect. You can buy them from places like Home Depot for a few hundred dollars. Pressure tanks are available in steel and fiberglass. There are also older style deliver tanks which did not use a bladder, but air in the system was still required at a certain point. In both types well head pressure from the well pump is adequate to charge the system. In addition their our gravity systems. This is required for low pressure pumps like wind wills which lift rather than pump water. My dad is a certified water system operator and more than once I was out in the middle of the night with him helping to bleed the main water tank (non bladder type) when it got too much air in the main tank for the subdivision where we lived. (Usually after a storm induced power failure) Ideally a bulk tank with a pump is used in remote application for delivering volumes of water. Fire departments often have a tanker, but it is not a pressurized system. For road departments with a "water truck" style tanker that have to wet down dirt and gravel roads often gravity feed is adequate pressure. The main idea behind a well storage tank is that there is a range of storage/pressure. This way the well pump does not kick on and off every time somebody flushes a toilet or turns on a faucet for a few seconds. Instead the excess water and pressure is delivered from the pressure tank and the well pump can kick on less often and run continuously for a longer period when it does. The pump motors tend to last significantly longer this way. |
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"jim" wrote Here is what he wrote: "Would one of those pressure tanks for wells work better ? Just charge it up close attached (by you) faucet and you're ready to go." You have made it clear that you fail to understand how that works. That came through clear in your first reply No need need to repeat Who wrote? Did he write the first paragraph, the second, or both? Or neither? Now I am really puzzled. |
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Maroon, as in "left behind on a desert island". Verb. Past
tense would be "he was marooned on an island". -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Steve B" wrote in message ... So you don't even know what a "pressure tank", used in a well system is ? Why don't you look it up and then come back to us... (what a maroon)... Well, I googled "how a well pressure tank works", and came up on the first hit with, " The well pressure tank system works under the principle of gases can be compressed while liquids cannot. As water fills the tank, ..." http://www.catskillhouse.us/blog/well-pressure-tank/ Now what do I do? BTW, a google for maroon shows a color, or a race of dark skinned mountain people. Were you making a racial slur? Steve |
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Steve B wrote: "jim" wrote Here is what he wrote: "Would one of those pressure tanks for wells work better ? Just charge it up close attached (by you) faucet and you're ready to go." You have made it clear that you fail to understand how that works. That came through clear in your first reply No need need to repeat Who wrote? Did he write the first paragraph, the second, or both? Or neither? Do you plan to follow your dozen messages revealing your ignorance of well pressure tanks with a dozen messages revealing your ignorance of what quotation marks mean? |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:43:25 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Maroon, as in "left behind on a desert island". Verb. Past tense would be "he was marooned on an island". The Mojave Desert has no islands. What a maroon... |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:28:12 -0500, dpb wrote:
OBTW, the (what a maroon) comes from one of the old, old cartoons--I forget which character/strip now, but that's the reference... -- It was one of Bugs Bunny's favorite sayings. I was always a big fan of Bugs vrs The Martian. VBG Gunner, owner of Coyote Engineering....(VBG) -- Maxim 12: A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head. |
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"jim" "sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net wrote in message .. . Steve B wrote: "jim" wrote Here is what he wrote: "Would one of those pressure tanks for wells work better ? Just charge it up close attached (by you) faucet and you're ready to go." You have made it clear that you fail to understand how that works. That came through clear in your first reply No need need to repeat Who wrote? Did he write the first paragraph, the second, or both? Or neither? Do you plan to follow your dozen messages revealing your ignorance of well pressure tanks with a dozen messages revealing your ignorance of what quotation marks mean? I love it when people can not answer the questions. Steve |
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Steve B wrote: "jim" "sjedgingN0Sp"@m@mwt,net wrote in message .. . Steve B wrote: "jim" wrote Here is what he wrote: "Would one of those pressure tanks for wells work better ? Just charge it up close attached (by you) faucet and you're ready to go." You have made it clear that you fail to understand how that works. That came through clear in your first reply No need need to repeat Who wrote? Did he write the first paragraph, the second, or both? Or neither? Do you plan to follow your dozen messages revealing your ignorance of well pressure tanks with a dozen messages revealing your ignorance of what quotation marks mean? I love it when people can not answer the questions. How you ever going to climb out of the deep hole of ignorance if people hand you all the answers to your dumb questions? Here is your first clue: this is what quotation marks look like - "" |
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No need to insult the man by calling him a politician......
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Steve B" wrote in message .. . Who wrote? Did he write the first paragraph, the second, or both? Or neither? Do you plan to follow your dozen messages revealing your ignorance of well pressure tanks with a dozen messages revealing your ignorance of what quotation marks mean? I love it when people can not answer the questions. Steve |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... Anybody care to hear my "big wrench" story? The wrench weighed about 500 pounds. Slugging wrench of course. One of the characters in the "March to.." series (military sci-fi), by John Ringo, had a "big pocking wrench" to solve certain technical problems.. You might relate... :-) |
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On Jul 19, 1:43*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: ... BTW, a google for maroon shows a color, or a race of dark skinned mountain people. *Were you making a racial slur? Steve AFAIK the Maroons were escaped Cuban slaves living in very uncivilized conditions in the mountains. We encountered them during the Spanish American War, tried with little success to use them as scouts, and apparently became very disgusted with them and Cubans in general, while our troops respected the Spanish they fought. That's based only on a few memoirs I read. YMMV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maroon_(people) jsw |
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-- It's easy to think outside the box, when you have a cutting torch. "D.A. Tsenuf" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... Anybody care to hear my "big wrench" story? The wrench weighed about 500 pounds. Slugging wrench of course. One of the characters in the "March to.." series (military sci-fi), by John Ringo, had a "big pocking wrench" to solve certain technical problems.. Go sit on a 'blue wrench'. |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:05:38 -0500, "D.A. Tsenuf"
wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . Anybody care to hear my "big wrench" story? The wrench weighed about 500 pounds. Slugging wrench of course. One of the characters in the "March to.." series (military sci-fi), by John Ringo, had a "big pocking wrench" to solve certain technical problems.. You might relate... :-) A BIG pocking wrench! -- Maxim 12: A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head. |
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