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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only
one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. This is especially so for fans that are heavy and operated horizontally. A fan that is hitting its cage will cause the temperature cut-out to trip and will eventually burn-out. These types of fans are usually found in furnaces. It may be possible to avoid this by drilling and tapping a second hole perpendicular to the first one on the fan for another bolt to better secure it to the motor shaft or check to make sure your fan is not secured by only one bolt before buying it. |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 20:47:48 -0800, Molly Brown wrote:
Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. Surely any fan with just one bolt will have the threads cut in the opposite direction to the motor's rotation, so that the motor's turning will have a tendency to tighten the bolt rather than loosen it? Or have you seen designs where this isn't the case? cheers Jules |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
On Jan 3, 8:56*pm, Jules Richardson
wrote: On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 20:47:48 -0800, Molly Brown wrote: Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. Surely any fan with just one bolt will have the threads cut in the opposite direction to the motor's rotation, so that the motor's turning will have a tendency to tighten the bolt rather than loosen it? Or have you seen designs where this isn't the case? cheers Jules http://www.masterplumber.net/images/HPIM1470.JPG |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
Molly Brown wrote: Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. This is especially so for fans that are heavy and operated horizontally. A fan that is hitting its cage will cause the temperature cut-out to trip and will eventually burn-out. These types of fans are usually found in furnaces. It may be possible to avoid this by drilling and tapping a second hole perpendicular to the first one on the fan for another bolt to better secure it to the motor shaft or check to make sure your fan is not secured by only one bolt before buying it. Gmm, Never happened to me. Use some locktite for the bolt thread. |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
On Jan 3, 11:47*pm, Molly Brown wrote:
Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. This is especially so for fans that are heavy and operated horizontally. A fan that is hitting its cage will cause the temperature cut-out to trip and will eventually burn-out. These types of fans are usually found in furnaces. It may be possible to avoid this by drilling and tapping a second hole perpendicular to the first one on the fan for another bolt to better secure it to the motor shaft or check to make sure your fan is not secured by only one bolt before buying it. Millions of them around that have not failed seems to contradict your theory. |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
On Jan 4, 6:56*am, jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jan 3, 11:47*pm, Molly Brown wrote: Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. This is especially so for fans that are heavy and operated horizontally. A fan that is hitting its cage will cause the temperature cut-out to trip and will eventually burn-out. These types of fans are usually found in furnaces. It may be possible to avoid this by drilling and tapping a second hole perpendicular to the first one on the fan for another bolt to better secure it to the motor shaft or check to make sure your fan is not secured by only one bolt before buying it. Millions of them around that have not failed seems to contradict your theory. Many commercial designs have 2 set-screws...one on top of the other. (same tapped hole) |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
That looks just like the one I cleaned last week. Outdoors,
with a garden hose makes for cold hands on a winter day. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Molly Brown" wrote in message ... http://www.masterplumber.net/images/HPIM1470.JPG |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
The fans I've seen, the bolt comes in from the side, and
presses on the flat side of the shaft. Yes, sometimes they do loosen up. Happens with pulleys, also. The bolts loosen up and the pulley falls off. I saw that a couple weeks ago, one of the furnace at my church had the pulley fall off. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Jules Richardson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 20:47:48 -0800, Molly Brown wrote: Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. Surely any fan with just one bolt will have the threads cut in the opposite direction to the motor's rotation, so that the motor's turning will have a tendency to tighten the bolt rather than loosen it? Or have you seen designs where this isn't the case? cheers Jules |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
Can also put on a couple drops of Loctite. Both where the
shaft meets the fan, and also to tighten the threads of the hold down bolt. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Molly Brown" wrote in message ... Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. This is especially so for fans that are heavy and operated horizontally. A fan that is hitting its cage will cause the temperature cut-out to trip and will eventually burn-out. These types of fans are usually found in furnaces. It may be possible to avoid this by drilling and tapping a second hole perpendicular to the first one on the fan for another bolt to better secure it to the motor shaft or check to make sure your fan is not secured by only one bolt before buying it. |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 09:24:57 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Can also put on a couple drops of Loctite. Both where the shaft meets the fan, and also to tighten the threads of the hold down bolt. Yep, I'd expect some kind of thread sealer in conjunction with properly torquing down the bolt would do the job - unless the fan was allowed to get so choked with crap over time that vibration became significant (but that's what periodic maintenance is for, right? :-) (re. your other comment about a hose - you're lucky, my outside faucets are about 3' beneath the snow and will be for another few months :-) cheers Jules |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
On 1/3/2011 10:47 PM, Molly Brown wrote:
Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. This is especially so for fans that are heavy and operated horizontally. A fan that is hitting its cage will cause the temperature cut-out to trip and will eventually burn-out. These types of fans are usually found in furnaces. It may be possible to avoid this by drilling and tapping a second hole perpendicular to the first one on the fan for another bolt to better secure it to the motor shaft or check to make sure your fan is not secured by only one bolt before buying it. I've never heard of one coming loose ever. It's usually the opposite, you can't remove the dam things with a jackhammer. -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
On Jan 4, 11:09*am, Steve Barker wrote:
On 1/3/2011 10:47 PM, Molly Brown wrote: Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. This is especially so for fans that are heavy and operated horizontally. A fan that is hitting its cage will cause the temperature cut-out to trip and will eventually burn-out. These types of fans are usually found in furnaces. It may be possible to avoid this by drilling and tapping a second hole perpendicular to the first one on the fan for another bolt to better secure it to the motor shaft or check to make sure your fan is not secured by only one bolt before buying it. I've never heard of one coming loose ever. *It's usually the opposite, you can't remove the dam things with a jackhammer. -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email Ain't that the truth :-) |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
Steve Barker wrote:
On 1/3/2011 10:47 PM, Molly Brown wrote: Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. This is especially so for fans that are heavy and operated horizontally. A fan that is hitting its cage will cause the temperature cut-out to trip and will eventually burn-out. These types of fans are usually found in furnaces. It may be possible to avoid this by drilling and tapping a second hole perpendicular to the first one on the fan for another bolt to better secure it to the motor shaft or check to make sure your fan is not secured by only one bolt before buying it. I've never heard of one coming loose ever. It's usually the opposite, you can't remove the dam things with a jackhammer. I recently took the squirrel cage from a centrifugal blower off of the motor shaft (it was from an ancient oil burning furnace). It was attached with *one* set screw, and came off without too much trouble, despite having set out in the rain for a number of years. There was no evidence on the shaft of having ever slipped over the years (mind you, this was a 1/8HP motor, albeit a fairly large 1/8HP motor). Jon |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
On Jan 3, 10:47*pm, Molly Brown wrote:
Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. This is especially so for fans that are heavy and operated horizontally. A fan that is hitting its cage will cause the temperature cut-out to trip and will eventually burn-out. These types of fans are usually found in furnaces. It may be possible to avoid this by drilling and tapping a second hole perpendicular to the first one on the fan for another bolt to better secure it to the motor shaft or check to make sure your fan is not secured by only one bolt before buying it. It depends on whether the securing bolt/machine screw comes in from the side or whether the fan is held on by a nut on the end of the motor shaft itself. You don't say which you mean so the premise is faulty, as in FAWLTY TOWERS. |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
On Jan 4, 4:47*am, Molly Brown wrote:
Any centrifugal fan that is secured to the fan motor shaft with only one bolt will eventually become loose and begin to hit the fan cage. This is especially so for fans that are heavy and operated horizontally. A fan that is hitting its cage will cause the temperature cut-out to trip and will eventually burn-out. These types of fans are usually found in furnaces. It may be possible to avoid this by drilling and tapping a second hole perpendicular to the first one on the fan for another bolt to better secure it to the motor shaft or check to make sure your fan is not secured by only one bolt before buying it. It my experience they are more likely to corrode solid on to the shaft & be difficult to remove without applying heat &WD40 If it's catching on the fan housing, the noise will make this very apparent. |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
Would that be "Snow Ho-s?" Or, maybe "Ho In De Sno"? I
didn't feel lucky as I warmed my fingers over the gas burner on her kitchen stove. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Jules Richardson" wrote in message ... (re. your other comment about a hose - you're lucky, my outside faucets are about 3' beneath the snow and will be for another few months :-) cheers Jules |
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Centrifugal fan design flaw.
Snowblowers have that problem. Lots and lots of heat
sometimes helps. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Steve Barker" wrote in message ... one on the fan for another bolt to better secure it to the motor shaft or check to make sure your fan is not secured by only one bolt before buying it. I've never heard of one coming loose ever. It's usually the opposite, you can't remove the dam things with a jackhammer. -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email |
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